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it should be a bad idea they don't care about their work is all they care about is making money fine is not going to be left out of the calling for the below defense budget to be high the bottom line on u.s. politics and policies and their effect on the world. who's in charge in somalia the president's term has expired opposition groups won't recognize his authority and no one knows when elections will take place so what happens if this political deadlock drags on this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program. so malia is facing a power vacuum elections were supposed to take place before the president's 4 year term expired on monday but mohamad abdalla

a far module is in dispute with regional leaders over how to hold the vote talks between the central government in mogadishu and somalia's 5 federal states collapsed on friday for macho says the leaders of jubilant and point lead are scuttling a deal to hold indirect parliamentary elections but they accuse far motto of trying to remove power from them opposition parties say a council of politicians and civil society groups should govern for now our diplomatic editor james bays has more. it was supposed to be presidential election day in somalia but following a dispute over the way the poll was to be organized it hasn't happened instead a coalition of opposition candidates have now declared the government of president from a show illegitimate in an interview to be broadcast on talk to al-jazeera the foreign minister mohammed abdul razak told me that's wrong the government will stay in office until an election can be held well after that time after that 4 years he is

no longer legitimately the president no it cannot be a fact the federal parliament in both chambers have signed voted for by a majority of 215 in the lower house and 40 senators to have. a law that would allow for the parliament with its full authority to continue with its mandate and for all the institutions of the federal government to continue the un is urging all sides to go back to the negotiating table but it won't rule on the constitutional position where it is not for the united nations in any setting to annoying to government declared legitimate or not legitimate if there are institutions that are in place that have been agreed to that have been negotiated we believe that somali political leaders need to come together whether you think the government is legitimate or illegitimate somalia now finds itself in a constitutional gray zone this in what was supposed to be

a pivotal year for the troubled country this year i am a psalm that african union force is supposed to handover its responsibilities to the somali national army but most experts believe it's not yet equipped to take the lead role the group most likely to benefit from the current political crisis is al-shabaab which continues to fight amazon and the somali government james pays 0 at the united nations. somalia. has had a long struggle to restore stability its civil war led to the collapse of the central government's authority the armed group controlled large areas of the country and many other regions declared autonomy in 2012 government and african union forces recapture the capital mogadishu and successfully pushed back. a parliament was sworn in and voted in a new president but the government has struggled to assert its authority beyond mogadishu and efforts to hold direct elections a failed. alright let's bring in our guests in

nairobi kenya matt bryden strategic advisor at sana research and former coordinator of the u.n. monitoring group on somalia and eritrea in the somali capital mogadishu with an alley development and humanitarian expert and co-founder of leave now a somali women's political pressure group and in doha a few other enemy professor of international relations at qatar university a warm welcome to you all who didn't let me start with you today what sparked this this election impasse and political crisis i mean what are the issues at play here . and that is i mean on the show that's when you have to find ice. floes quite some time now we've been back and forth finding little. ironic action the pentagon actions unfortunately so today we don't have a consensus on a political election that all state will are. as you know we've

had multiple. meetings between the federal and state presidents and presidents from my guilt that have. end it with out any political agreement a september 17th there was however an agreement that was signed by f.m.'s and. the president parliament that charted a way forward in an election model and when agreed on that but the implementation of that has been quite contentious and there are a few key items that have been outstanding that the readership have never found a way forward one is the election committee itself and the question not that. 2 issues around getting in what the in the electoral process should look right i never really is going to get. the selection there.

or so those are the 3 main athens that we. really have but the country's president is. currently as we mentioned earlier trying to find a ripple a fury what makes this political crisis different from political crises in the past i mean how much worse is it of course there have been political deadlocks numerous times in the past in somalia there have been timelines to agreements that have not been adhered to why is this different and is it much worse well thank you are not trying to hold on has explained it well but this is a different symbol to because we have never been in a situation where we don't have election selection whatever you call it all a political agreement normally i'm in almost all of the behaviors of mr mrs or

could not deliver a pro but i lecture. whether it i'm talking about direct i mean one person one vote the election but what they did was most of them or at least all of them they were able to no good she ate with either a terrible extension or some sort of i mean in direct elections and here we have we are now at the bhushan where we have leave that under. that tedham and completely neither the parliament lot of the president can actually extend themselves because the government itself has expired in december so we are in a very actually because it is ration of the moment and it's because of the government is a failure because it has been given this task of the beginning and they knew it so they failed to deliver election selection whatever you call it all or some sort of

a political agreement so this is a unique situation that we have not been for the bus to n.t.'s matt there are those who are blaming this crisis on the president saying that he is trying to grab more power that he is trying to create a stronger federal state then there are those who blame jubilant and point land because they refused to sign the pact introducing the new electoral model from your vantage point who is more to blame is it both or is it one side of the other. well thank you i have to have to agree with them if you only i think really the the balance of the responsibility lies with the federal government 1st of all there has been a pattern since president from ajah took office of trying to diminish and eventually to subjugate the federal member states not just some point land and job but land so

they used to be a top level political forum under the previous government where the federal president and the state presidents would meet president from out joe disbanded that council when he took office he set up a national security council which was only able to meet a couple of times before it became too acrimonious and wasn't convened again. agreements on or let's say agreements in principle on federal architecture were discarded by the federal government especially as far as security natural resources and revenues were concerned so the federal member states have really felt as though . this show president from a jumper to kill or have been trying to dismantle the essence of federalism establish a monopoly on power and resources and sideline them and i should just add that the federal government aggressively interfered in elections in 3 federal member states

to have its own loyalists appointed so there's a great deal of mistrust and suspicion from the way the federal government has behaved and now this argument that parliament has extended its own term of office the president has extended until an indefinite period in the future when elections may be held i think just deepens the divide even even further and and makes it harder to mooring all of these take hold. back to the table but then the u.n. and african union have warned against any attempts at holding partial elections or any process that does not have broad consensus in somalia is there a risk that could happen going forward and what would the ramifications be things that i mentioned history of somalia right so we've had a pretty successful transfer of peaceful transfer of power for the last several

election cycles and somalia really the hills in terms of. africa as as you know. a model for you know footprints of democracy and i think with that in terms of the context of what the crux of the problem now this could have been foreseen this is not you know an issue that came about you know misunderstanding in the last month or 2 all or not i think part of the blame or the fault of my not just the federal government but i think also it's natural community has to play starting from the challenges that are spiral to 1218 bits could have been portugal that their relationship with the group ever met and yet has been moving. towards nonexistent for quite some time in the lack of americans who are going to conventions where one could mess up the

other brands or for community i think speaks louder. than you know there are you know this is a mythical that is the post that supports some bill of its political process right to consider her itemize its constitution which is main challenge that we have every time there's an election there are always times. or governments are certain issues that ahead of time so i think you know. idea brad i see accurate in static minutes now i'm concerned about you know bonneton at sea or really severe political fallout is i think disingenuous we need clarity we need leadership such a committee and call out folks in in just right and that kind of a dance around issues no there are real challenges and there's personal politics

involved in the current impasse and that's all it cost and we need to adjust it and call and move this country forward we've made significant progress in the last decades or so you know the issue everything's getting mentioned who is winning in this in this impasse is somehow rank and some have internal enemies and external enemies that would see this an opportunity for act together where being you know the international community has an obligation to make sure it's clarity but also make sure that you know we put your name yes there's china gets a desk. i'm sorry interrupt but let me let me pick up on that point and send the question over to a few because dan was talking about the security vacuum in somalia right now and perhaps being able to take advantage of that what are your thoughts on that well this is actually a reality obviously it's not only out but whenever there is a political problem or kind of the arc that it's all the while and understood that

his take advantage of one of that i could not rule of some political reward you name it so this is a reality and i think it does why we wear it on many of us who have a sort of warning against the i mean i've been. told the mention of this has been foreseen earlier and it was not unfortunate we ended up in a situation where when we don't know what to do i never. but it's just i mean interpreting at this provisional constitution i'm by the way one of the people who believe this whole extension business is neither a politically acceptable or legally correct and that's one of those people who believe because simply because you cannot i'm in. the boat in the primacy of the a law is usually with the constitution going to socialist clear it's 40 that is you

cannot i mean just pass the legislation or resolution and say that i have gently that there is a law that is for what they call. amendments and that hasn't been followed so in my view this all business is a lack of i'm incompetency or capacity will of the politicians most to me and i put it in the federal government simply because they are the. they have the bigger responsibility they're being given this task they knew that we are technically. so call it i mean beyond the transition but in reality we face in all kinds of transition whether it's security whether it's constitutional whether it's election and all kinds of things and unfortunately here we go after for 40 artists we have nothing and i think this the political process has to be paid by those neighbor who actually led the country into this situation matt i saw you nodding along to

a lot of what a fury was saying there looks like you want to jump in please go ahead well i just completely agree there are there are 3 core tasks that the government somali government has to complete because as sherry said the constitution is incomplete it's a provisional constitution and actually that means we have a provisional government of sorts these 3 tasks are to review and amend the constitution to make it final to. elaborate a. complete the federal architecture so all of the legislation and the political agreements required between the center and the regions and to. come finalize a democratic system of representation and election. with that will help the country to unify rather than pull it apart when it's finally used so this government really made no effort. along those lines if anything the federation

is weaker security has backtracked over the last 4 years. and. is benefiting from this situation but i would go further and i would say that has actually and it fitted under the government of president for majo building a shadow state that is more deeply rooted now in somalia society than perhaps any time before we're done what are the implications at play here for the region for the horn of africa thing to have anything to just maybe make a comment that didn't they and the extension past extension. this is not the 1st time that the government has run out of mandate in the past there has been political agreements to get to and through an election. by previous government as well as egypt had 6 months just that he had one year so this is not me where is what we haven't seen before is the lack of political agreement on an

extension to implement the election in terms of regional consequence i think the idea is located in the. security missions are possible and all others sort of. can happen but i think it's important that you know how do we remove that or shatter because we haven't agreed on our election process if it's worrisome in the sense that it's meeting. rest you know in ways that are not helping him or the things that may yes there needs to be consensus come to the table figure it out in the month of an election process and happen however the things that. my saying the current government the current president is really set back the money is progress somewhat yes there are challenges yes and yes there

are life in those also happy because there are but overall i think what we need is an orderly and in figure out a way to get this country on track to an election part of that everyone has this group with and that in the end the getting the outcome is not a question that will be the actual dooming bluetongue asking for is in the end election process happens and there is an agreement or a consensus around the outcome a fury is there anybody amongst the opposition in somalia who poses a real threat politically to the president right now does he have a rival who is a real viable challenger for leadership in somalia extremely difficult to. actually say anything or even predict what is going to have been or who can politically challenge other than what we have now and the reality is that. 2 former

presidents some former prime ministers a number off former ministers were all trying to challenge the president when a parliament is elected on the moments we don't know who stands or who is ahead of you or any polling being scientific about we can actually point out to what we have is people who watch us and we want to run for president and that's all when we have a parliament in place maybe we had it we would be able to predict is somewhat how i mean one is rank it over another so i couldn't say much on doubt but what i want to just point out here is that i agree with paul on that not that we go for a solution what out of the ways to go to get out of this i mean stalemate i mean i say well i think if that's what you want to be to matt we've talked already about

the political dimensions we've talked about the security aspect when it comes to all of this of what's going on in somalia but i want to i want to look for a moment towards the humanitarian situation in somalia there are so many in somalia who are in need of aid there have been floods locus infestations the pandemic conflict how dire is the humanitarian situation right now and is there a chance that this political stalemate this political crisis could only make things worse the humanitarian situation is is precarious and it it often is in somalia just given the. climate and the demographics and the fact that it hasn't really had a functioning central government for so long although it has been said made progress and in recent years. i think though that these sort of political wrangles are well above affecting the daily lives of ordinary somalis much of

somalia is that is either without administration or is is administered by local governments under the auspices of federal member states the federal government itself essentially is confined to most issue and has some influence in neighboring districts. so i think the real danger in terms of the humanitarian situation is if this political and constitutional crisis is not results that we could see a return to armed conflict in some parts of the country as you you may have heard on midnight on the last day of president from joe's term of office on the night of the 7th. erupted in a display of celebratory gunfire that i personally haven't seen since the dictator mahmoud see about i was chasing the country in 2002 and so tensions are really

running high the opposition many of them up tissue based have said clearly they don't recognize this government and i think the the need for a solution is not just to to help move things forward politically but it's to avoid things spiraling into an even worse situation so i would agree with the other 2 speakers i think what we really need to do is focus on the fastest and most effective way forward to to rescue to salvage the situation down we only have about a minute left someone ask you to please keep your answer brief what are you hearing from people in mogadishu about all this are they paying attention are they concerned what you hear from people on the ground there. visit with my friend i think the people who go to iraq this is yes the political elites. are very you know involved in moving around these issues but the average citizen in the city is going

about their way in terms of actual tensions yes there was some gunfire. at midnight on the 7. second create but if it's not out and that will rear people are fearing that it's going to become mines but ultimately i think what we need to understand is that this well also has. kept violence but what we need to really stay clear of is the rhetoric that is heating up in that is making the country more i'm stating that it actually is yes we need to come up with solutions in passing an actual model that one is satisfied with but not to the detriment of the backtracking of the state of affairs for this country all right we've run out of times we're going to have to leave the conversation there thank you so much to all our guests matt bryden with an id and a few me and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by

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