ok was. 2 2 7 that was. because. those words that was trump's message destroy anyone who won't listen who won't help them take the election for trump. and as you will see this was just the preview for 4 entities who like the proud boys and the trunk caravan organizers would later he the president's call and come to washington and be there on january 6 later in the rally a former term campaign spokeswoman katrina pierson also spoke during her speech she stated quote this isn't over this is just beginning referring to the fight to stop the steel and then she added we knew both republicans and democrats were

against we people we the people we are the cavalry no one's coming for us it's clear the tramp and some of his supporters saw this as war a fight against anyone who was unwilling to do what ever it took to keep donald trump in power we are the cavalry and president trump continued to reinforce his support of these messages throughout the day at 1 48 pm after both speeches he retreated his deputy chief of staff's tweet showing his crowd that he had flown over on marine one and he tweeted quote thank you patriots these people were as you can see gathered in mass and being told by the president's allies that their election had been stolen and they were told they were the cavalry

no one else could do it and after hearing these speeches and seeing the president support. this is what donald trump's cavalry was capable of. thank. god. god. god. god god. what you just saw was the violence that ensued after that rally the proud boys after that rally engaged in serious acts of violence in downtown d.c. some tramp supporters and self identified proud boice vandalized

churches after that rally if we look at these events it's clear how we got here because what did the president do after that he turned right around and a little over a week later he began chord naming the january 6th save america rally with the same people who had planned the 2nd 1000000 back of march you'll recall that the women for america 1st had organized that 2nd 1000000 maggie march they had originally planned rallies for january 2022nd and january 23rd after the inauguration but donald trump had other plans on december 19th president trump tweeted his save the date for january 6 he told us supporters to come to d.c. for a big protests the day billing it as why. just days later

women for america 1st amended their parliament to hold their rally on january 6th pursuant to the president's save the date instead of after the inauguration this was deliberate reports confirm that the president himself president trump became directly involved with the planning of the event including the speaking lineup even the music to be played just as he chose the music for his we treat of the caravan driving the biden harris bus off the road with that fight song and he brought the same people who spoke at the 2nd 1000000 magnum rally to help as well trump's campaign advisor katrina pearson who you recall said on december 12th that this is the only the beginning we are the cavalry also became

directly involved in planning the event they even sent out invitations together this is amy kramer one of the founders of women for america 1st tweeting the invitation tagging donald trump and other organizers inviting the same supporters who just engage in serious violence at the 2nd 1000000 mager rally to show up to the largest rally to stop the steel and president trump seemed to have other plans for what was going to happen at that rally to. women for america 1st had initially planned for the rally go as to remain at the ellipse until the counting of the state electoral slates for this was completed just like they had remained at freedom plaza after the 2nd 1000000 mag of march in fact the permit stated in no uncertain terms that the march from be

a lips was not permit it it was not until after president trump and his team became involved in the planning that the march from the ellipse to the pap little came about in direct contravention of the original permit this was not a coincidence none of this was donald trump over many months cultivated violence praised it and then when he saw the violence his supporters were capable of he channeled it to his big wild historic event he organized january 6th with the same people that had just organize a rally resulting in substantial violence and made absolutely sure that this time these violent rally go as wouldn't just remain in place he made sure that those

violent people would literally march right here to our steps from the ellipse to the capitol to stop the steel his cavalry this was deliberate. and because the president of the united states incited this because he was orchestrating this because he was inviting them the insurgents were not shy about their planning they believe they were following the orders of the commander in chief they were as the tweet we just saw quite literally his cavalry so they posted exact blueprints of the attack openly loudly proudly and they did this all over public forums these were not just hidden posts in dark websites but trump would not have

seen quite the opposite we know the president trumps team monitored these websites we know this because his advisors confirm it and white house and campaign insiders you'll read who has known both scoobie know and the president for years said there was no way that the venal and the trump social media operation would not have been aware of the plan circulating online to storm the capitol because and i quote the trump operation closely monitored the web's darkest corners ranging from mainstream sites such as twitter facebook and reddit to fringe message boards like 4 chan an extra now call ex-con to the donald darwin and offshoot of a band reddit community dedicated to rapidly supporting all things trump they actively monitored the exact sites like the donald duck when on which these

insert actionis wrote their posts. and so what would trump and his team have seen when they were monitoring these white sites what would his supporters have said they would have seen a clear road map of exactly what happened this is an example of a post that was captured from one of the sites dedicated to donald trump that we just talked about shortly before the site was taken down and the mean reads quote the capitol is our goal everything else is a distraction every corrupt member of congress locked in one room and surrounded by real americans is an opportunity that will never present itself again let that sink in think about that

the exact thing that happened on january 6 that was their goal and they said it out lot on sites that the trump administration was actively monitoring a 3rd party site captured a post on the donald out when where one user posted quote this cannot simply be a protests it has to be the establishment of the magen militia with the command offices set up with all further militia tactical missions spreading from there another user said in response quote we will have to achieve an actual tactical victory like storming and occupying the capital to have the intended effect. that's what they understood donald trump to want verite is in black and white and they explained why they felt justified in this another poster

on the form the donald out wind wrote on january 4th quote if congress illegally certifies biden trump would have absolutely no choice but to demand us to storm congress and kill slash the them up donald trump will have no choice that was what he made them believe to the point his supporters felt justified even in carrying weapons and storming arc capital this was in post after post here's another when discussing how to carry guns into d.c. one noted quote yes it's illegal but this is war and we are clearly in a post legal phase of our society what they treated it as a war and they meant it the morning of the attack under the thread today i

told my kids could buy one poster wrote today i had the very difficult conversation with my children the daddy might not come home from d.c. within a matter of hours that post amassed 4000 likes president trump had truly made them believe that their election had been stolen and that it was their patriotic duty to fight to steal it back patriotic a term he gave those who use violence for him and they were willing to say good bye to their children for this fight and their supporters didn't just rely on entering the capitol with guns haphazardly they had maps of this building. they talked through which tunnels to use and how to get to the senate chamber some

posted specific floor plans layouts of the capitol alongside hopes of overwhelming law enforcement to quote find the tunnels arrest the worst traitors posters also fixated on what they saw as their ability to easily overwhelm the capitol police as quote their only around 2000 of them and again they urged quote the capitol is our goal everything else is a distraction there were hundreds of these posts hundreds monitored by the trump administration and these polls they were chillingly accurate right down to communication devices a new affidavit filed by the f.b.i. described preparations by the right wing group the proud voice to storm the capitol including using earpieces and walkie talkies to direct movements throughout the

building this happened that's the level of planning in advance that occurred they had earpieces on the slide you'll see proud boy member dominic presell has an earpiece in his right ear consistent with the affidavit and in addition to these detail posts they make clear why they thought they could do this why they thought they could do this it wasn't just that they were doing it following the president's orders they thought he would help them. a 3rd party site captured a post on the donald out when again the site monitored by trump's team and he wrote in wrote quote he meaning donald trump in this instance can order the nat guard to stand down if needed unfortunately he has no control over the capitol police but there are only around 2000 of them and our lot are useless fat asses or girls

it's all right there the overall goal maps of the capitol the weapons communication devices the even said publicly openly proudly the president trump will help them to commandeer the national guard so all they have to do is overwhelmed the 2000 capitol police officers this was reported in the n.b.c. news and the washington post with headlines like violent threats ripple through far right internet forums ahead of protests pro trump forums erupt with violent threats ahead of wednesday's rally against the 2020 lection fox news also reported that the proud boys would come to the january 6 rally prepared for violent action even quoting a proud boy member who said they would quote incognito and spread across downtown

d.c. in smaller numbers city officials seeing the same warnings also publicly warned about the violence and all unlawful weapons at the event d.c. mare moore the bows are cautioned residents of the district of columbia to avoid the downtown area while the rally attendees were in town. federal law enforcement warned of these threats also on january 3rd a capitol police intelligence report warned of a violent scenario in which congress itself could be the target of the angry supporters of president trump on january 6 according to that report by the washington post supporters of the current president see january 6 2021 as the last opportunity to overturn the results of the presidential election this sense of desperation and disappointment lead to more incentive to become violent

unlike previous post election protests the targets of the pro trump supporters are not necessarily the counter protesters as they were previously but rather congress itself is the target for january 6 the day before the riders stormed the congress and f.b.i. office in virginia also issued an explicit warning that extremists were preparing to travel to washington to commit violence and quote war according to internal reports the f.b.i. report cited to an online post where the user declared the trump supporters should go to washington and get violent the supporter said quote stop calling this a march or rally or protests go there ready for war we give our president or we die. these threat warnings were not just hypothetical actual arrest

occurred in the days leading to be attack on january 4th 2 days before the rally one extremely well publicized arrest was of a proud boy leader who destroyed a churches black lives matter banner a month earlier during the december 12 2nd 1000000 back in march report emphasized that when he was arrested he was carrying high capacity firearm magazines which he claimed were meant to be supplied to another rally attendee for january 6th by the night of january 6th attack d.c. police had already made 6 arrests in connection with the planned protests on charges of carrying weapons ammunitions assault assaulting police this is all in public view all of it the truth is usually

seen and rarely heard truth this truth where they denied or not. and the truth is president trump had spent months calling his supporters to a march on a specific day at a specific time in specific places to stop the certification and leading up to the event there were hundreds hundreds of posts online showing that his supporters took this as a call to arms to attack the capitol they were detailed post the plans to attack online law enforcement warned that these posts were real threats and even made arrests days leading up to the attack and yet in the face of all this piece credible warnings of serious dangerous threats to our capitol when those thousands of people were standing in front of president trump ready to take orders and attack

this is what he said we're going to the capital and we fight we fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore and that's why this is different and that's why he must be convicted and disqualified. representative dean will now return to the events of january 6th itself she will demonstrate president repeated incitement of the crowd that morning as he directed them in the capital in his last ditch effort to retain his hold on power.

for me and for many americans january 6th is for ever etched in our memories i went to work with a sense of excitement the start of my 2nd term in congress and the 1st time i would participate in the certification of a presidential election. and then we all know what happened i know many of us have similar experiences from that day but i'll briefly share mine i stood with colleagues in the gallery above the house floor to observe the arizona challenge

moments later police radios reported a breach of the capitol grounds someone shouted up to us duck then lie down then ready your gas masks shortly after there was a terrifying banging on the chamber doors i will never forget that sound shouts and panicked calls to my husband and to my son's instructions to flee and then the constant whirring of the gas masks filtering the air the chamber of the united states house of representatives turned to chaos for donald trump it was a very different day earlier i showed you donald trump's desperate attempts to maintain power ignoring adverse court rulings attacking elected officials

pressuring his justice department even attacking his own vice president you saw a man who refused to lose who was desperate to retain power by any means necessary you saw a man willing to attack anyone and everyone who got in his way and you saw a man who thought he could play by different rules he told his supporters as my colleague ms plaskett just showed you exactly what he thought those different rules were combat fight violence this was not just one speech this was weeks and weeks of deliberate effort by donald trump to overturn the election results so that he didn't have to give up the presidency the speech on january 6th builds on refers to an amplifies that same pattern. the pattern trump had used and broadcasted for months he refused to lose

his attacks on others and his different rules the only thing different about his speech on january 6th from all these other times that we went through was that he was no longer telling his base just that they had to fight to stop the steele he was finally telling them now is the time to do it here's the place and here's how for weeks he urged his supporters to show up at a specific time and place him when they got there he told them exactly what he wanted let's start with his desperation you saw how much planning went into january the 6th and when the day arrived donald trump's desperation was in full force between the time he woke up on january the 5th and the start of the save america march that next day he had tweeted 34 times when donald trump wants to get his message across he is not shy as you all know these tweets were relentless

and these tweets all centered on his singular focus his drumbeat to motivate anger and incite his supporters his big lie the presidential election had been rigged it had been stolen from him and they had to fight to stop it and the timing was no coincidence he sent 34 tweets because this was his last chance to rile up his supporters before the big historic wild event he had planned now i won't go through all of these tweets but let me just highlight a few at 1 in the morning he tweeted if i sed president mike pence comes through for us we will win the presidency might can send it back. this will look familiar to you because mr lew just showed you how trump had privately he was pressuring and publicly attacking his vice president to stop the certification and

when vice president pence refused when he explained that the constitution simply does not allow him to stop certification donald trump revoked his base to attack him the late in the evening tweet was no different it just got more forceful let's be clear what donald trump was saying that vice president pence could send back the certification was not true for one thing all 50 state states had ratified this election and for another vice president pence explained to him that he does not have the power to unilaterally overturn states votes in just send the certification back and donald trump knew this but this was his last chance to get as vice president to stop the certification and so he was willing to say or do just about anything these tweets attacking the election is fraudulent attacking his vice

president and urging his supporters to fight continued throughout the morning here's another example at 8 17 am he tweeted all my cat mike pence has to do is send it back to them and back to the states and we win and we win that's what he said even though by then he had clearly lost as trump continued tweeting the save america march at the white house was now in full swing the speakers who warmed up the crowd for trump were members of his inner circle family members his personal attorney people president trump had deputized to speak on his behalf some of the speakers also spoke at the 2nd 1000000 magen march which resulted in serious violence. the warmup acts on january 6th focused on promoting donald trump's big lie they stoke the same fears

a stolen election of fraud ripping victory away from them and the speakers told them what to do about it as the crowd erupted in fight for trump chance throughout that morning donald trump jr urged that's the message these guys better fight for trump the speakers lasted 3 hours repeating president trump's message and finally at about noon donald trump took the stage with the seal of the presidency on his podium and the white house as his backdrop president trump spoke for more than 70 minutes his narrative was familiar it was the same message we he had spent months spreading to his supporters the big lie the election was stolen that they should never concede and that his supporters should be patriots and fight much harder to stop the steel to take back our country

the same phrases he'd spread for weeks but now the message was immediate now it was just no longer just fight it was fight right now. all of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by a bold and radical left democrats which is what they're doing and stolen by the fake news media that's what they've done and what they're doing we will never give up we will never concede it doesn't happen you don't see it the them of the of our country has had enough it will not take it anymore and that's what this is all of the of of. i do use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with we will stop the steal of the one that set the tone our country has had enough and we will not take

it anymore he told them and us right at the beginning that the only way to take back the country was to fight let's look at what he said next. and rudy did a great job. he's got guts you know what he's got guts and like a lot of people in the republican party he's got guts he fights miss plaskett showed you example after example of donald trump when confronted with violence praising it we saw him instruct the proud boys a violent extremist group to stand back and stand by that group was there on january the 6th we saw him praise a caravan of his supporters after they tried to drive a bus belonging to the biden campaign off the road the organizer of that attack was

there on january the 6th and we saw him team up with the organizers of the violent 2nd magen 1000000 march to plan his rally on january the 6th. and what does he do at that rally he tells giuliani he's doing a great job addressing the cow crowd saying he has guts to call for fighting and to be clear this is what he was praising audio it was it let's have trial by combat in the. trial by combat donald trump praised rudy said he did a good job had guts for telling the crowd that we need trial by combat next more attacks. all vice president pets has to do is send it back to the states to recertify. and we become president and you are

that 3 years. this attack like the tweets he sent that morning had a purpose convincing his supporters that the future of our country of our democracy hinged on whether vice president pence would overturn the election something he knew pence could not and would not do he called out vice president pence 9 times that day and each time he got more forceful here's what he said at $1215.00 and we're going to have to fight much harder. and my pension is going to have to come through for us and if he doesn't. that will be a sad day for our country because you're sworn to uphold our constitution. by now it is up to congress to confront this agreed use assault on our democracy and after this we're going to walk out and i'll

be there with you we're going to walk. we're going to walk down anyone you want but i think right here we're going to walk down to the capitol. of of and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. because you'll never take back our country with weakness you have to show strength and you have to be strong. we're going to have to fight much harder and mike pence will have to come through for us that's what he said and he told the crowd what he meant and exactly what to do literally commanding them to confront us at the capitol even told them he'd walk there with them which of course was not true and then he told them exactly what to do when they got to the capitol you'll never take

your country back with weakness you have to show strength and don't forget who is standing there the same people miss plaskett described to you many people violent violent people law enforcement had warned would be armed and would be targeting us one of president trumps key defenses focus on what he said for a few seconds 15 minutes into the speech i know that everyone here will soon be marching over the capitol building to peacefully patriotically make feel boyce's are. in a speech spanning almost 11000 words yes we did check that was the one time the only time president trump used the word peaceful or any suggestion of nonviolence the implication of the president's tweets the rally in the speeches were clear

president trump used the word fight or fighting 20 times including telling the crowd they needed to fight like hell to save our democracy we know how the crowd responded to donald trump's words and he knew how they responded to his speech here is the evidence of how the crowd reacted have. to share. the joy. you're getting. up. if you're. interested who have. yet. to take a good showing think that you're awake during. the ok.

her yeah. you were you are. storm the capitol invade the capitol fight fight fight fight take the capital right now these were the words of the crowd trump was telling them to fight and he would keep telling them to fight throughout the rest of his speech these are not only words of aggression they are words of insurrection and if you have any doubt listen to what he says next today we see. a very important event because right over there right there we see the event going to take place and i'm going to be watching because history is going to be bait we're going to see whether or not we have great

and courageous leaders or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves. throughout history throughout eternity they'll be ashamed and you know what if they do the wrong thing we should never ever forget that they never forget . we should never ever forget. the commander in chief points to congress and tells those assembled i'm going to be watching history is going to be made this was clearly not just some rally or march or protest this was about donald trump trying to steal the election for himself claiming that the election was fraudulent illegitimate so that his supporters would fight to take it back in fact after stoking the crowds anger for nearly 40 minutes after repeating false election conspiracy after false election conspiracy he said this in no uncertain terms

you will have an illegitimate president that's what you'll have. any outcome besides him keeping the presidency would be illegitimate this was building on the big lie of a rigged and stolen election and here's what he said a little later in the speech when you catch somebody in a fraud you're allowed to go by very different rules. so i hope the bike has the courage to do what he has to. when you catch somebody in a fraud you're allowed to go by very different rules we told you that context matters here's the context. this was not just one reference or a message to supporters by a politician to fight for a cause he dissembled thousands of violent people people he knew were capable of violence people he had seen be violent they were standing

now in front of him and then he pointed to us lit the fuse and sent an angry mob to to fight the perceived enemy his own vice president and the members of congress as we certified an election. but i said something's wrong here something's really wrong can't have happened and we fight we fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun my fellow americans for our moon for our children and for our beloved country and i say this despite all that's happened the best is yet to come to him of so we're going to.

you're going to walk down pennsylvania avenue i love been surveyed here and we're going to the capitol and we're going to try and give. the democrats a hopeless that never voted for it. not even one vote but we're going to try and give our republicans the week ones because the strong ones don't need any of our how we're drawn going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country so let's walk down pennsylvania avenue i want to thank you all god bless you and god bless america thank you all so being. thank you very much with. the book the book. was. father.

if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore. and there was only one fight left and it was a mile up the road donald trump the president of the united states ordered the crowd to march on congress and so the crowd marched this is incredible you heard him say that's how president trump ended his speech i'd like to close with a very brief timeline of what was happening in parallel alongside the president as he spoke on the 6th of january a little after noon president trump began his speech with a fiery refusal to concede he commanded the crowd to fight and march down pennsylvania avenue and around 1220 some rally goers some attendees began marching

by 1230 as president trump continued to incite his supporters large segments of the rally crowd had amassed at the capitol at 1253 as the president's speech was playing on cell phone broadcasts the outermost barricade of the northwest side of the capitol was breached and capitol police were forced back to the steps of the capitol at $110.00 the president ended his speech with a final call to fight and a final order to march to the capitol at $145.00 the president's followers surged past capitol police shouting this is a revolution just after $210.00 an hour after president trump ended his speech the insurrectionist mob overwhelmed capitol security and made it inside the halls of congress because the truth is this attack never

would have happened but for donald trump and so they came draped in trump's flag and used our flag the american flag to batter and to bludgeon. and it to 30. i heard the term flying banging on house chamber doors for the 1st time in more than 200 years the seat of our government was ransacked on our watch. mr president i think this would be a good time for a break from. what cheney impeachment proceedings

a 2nd impeachment of former president donald trump ending there with madelyne dean describing the moment when the mob overran the capitol building on january the 6 and the managers have been setting out what they say is the case to convict a president trump on and citing this event they've described the norrington of adverse court rulings that happen the pressuring and threatening of election officials at the attacking of senators and members of congress pressures or pressuring the justice department attacking vice president pence and the cataloguing what they say is the fact that the violence was foreseeable and was deliberately encouraged let's cross live to alan fischer who's following the proceeding 1st on capitol hill so it's been quite emotional at times isn't it we people reliving the moments of of johnny the 6 but also setting out this catalog of of events in the run up to it. that you saw congresswoman dean there talking about

it as a he pointed it as they came to see as making sure that everyone is involved in what was clearly a visceral experience for her if she teared up there she remembered being told to put on her gas mask if i was a betting man i would suggest that in the next part of the presentation we're going to see the video that we've been promised this of course has never been here before that security video that was taken inside the chamber and apparently shows just how close the senators and members of congress came to being caught by the more i think one of the most telling points that was made just in the last hour or so came from stacy placket who is the congresswoman from the virgin islands she's the 1st ever from the u.s. territory to be an impeachment manager but what was telling was she said that. there had been no parent given for a march from the ellipse where donald trump held a rally to capitol hill however that changed when the trump white house got

involved in the planning and you'll remember and this might not be related but donald trump cut short his holiday at mara lago in florida he decided to come back to washington on december the 31st clearly the feeling was that he may be involved in some of the planning for january the 6th and that is certainly what stacy placket was alluding to that was a fairly significant revelation essentially this is her saying look donald trump can say he didn't know what was going to happen but if you look at the pressure ports and you consider the history of danske of you know who is his deputy chief of staff but also his social media guru the monitored everything that was written about donald trump in all parts of the way of not just the main sites but also in the deep dark corners and they would be well aware of what was being planned for capitol hill on january the this 6. i think some of the other points that were made i'm just looking through my notes no it was in the points that were made that luke

donald trump made threats to elected officials he made threats to republicans who opposed him he also made threats to his own department of justice to get involved in what he called stopping the stealing and getting involved in trying to overturn the election result said there were many many cases that went to the courts was more than 60 cases went to the courts they went to several courts as well so was more than 80 judges involved many of them appointed by donald trump and not one single legal challenge held up but donald trump continued to incest that they should overturn the result and he saw january the 6th as his last chance to do that and was putting pressure on his own vice president not to follow the constitution but to certify the results for don't trump essentially as one congresswoman said it was his effort to try and keep a hold of power again it was a pretty powerful presentation what we're hearing from inside the chamber is that

there are a number of republicans who aren't paying any attention to this joe sholay remember him he was the one that walked into the capitol on march the 6th with his fist and raised into the air he was one of the 1st senators to say that he would object to the certification of the results apparently he is sitting looking at unrelated materials or was sitting with his feet up on the chair in front of them in the senate chamber marco rubio apparently is not paying much attention to what is going on either and rand paul who wasn't around for a large part of the the events this morning as soon as the 1st break was announced he ran with a note to the defense attorneys can remember that the senators take an oath to act as impartial jurors on all of this happened during the last impeachment trial is nothing new democrats did as well with the 100 news to the impeachment managers last time. so there's nothing new but that just gives you a scene of what's happening inside the chamber because of course the cameras in the

chamber are trained on the podium all the time they're under the control of the senate television we have no control and being able to show you what others are doing or any reaction shots are certainly a very interesting couple of hours in the session in the impeachment trial and you mentioned some there republicans are despairing often not even bothering to watch it and that the thinking appears to be that there won't be enough of them to end up with a convict conviction for trying to get did anything that you had to today make you think that there might be a few more that's what you're thinking on whether this will sway sway any of them. moments mcconnell who's the leader of the republicans in the senate his spokesperson has been on a boat over the last few hours telling people that as far as the leader is concerned he thinks that this is a vote of conscience but we saw how things move for republicans you had bill cassidy regarded as a pretty effective senator from louisiana he's a republican he flipped his vote yesterday before when the senate debated whether

or not it was constitutional to impeach donald trump he voted against it then there was the vote in state the senate yesterday and this time he voted for it and the reason he flipped he said was the prosecution made a much better case you listen to the evidence he listened to donald trump's lawyers and then he made his decision and in the last few hours he's been essentially censured by his own state party that never used to happen senators were allowed to do what they thought was right for the country but clearly the republicans in louisiana said you should not be voting against donald trump that will give a number of republicans in the senate cause for concern there were a number who were never ever going to vote to convict donald trump in this hearing but there may have been some that the democrats felt they could peel off but i think what's important to know is while the democrats me except that. this is not of war that they can win what they're doing and doing pretty effectively i think

it's fair to say is lame the narrative for historians they are essentially leading down what happened in the final days of the trump presidency so although the senate may judge him in one way they clearly the democrats believe that history will judge donald trump a completely different way alan fischer thank you very much indeed. let's remind ourselves of how the trial will play out impeachment managers have started presenting their case as we've heard they have 16 hours over 2 days then trump's lawyers will do the same senators can then question both sides and witnesses could be called both sides will then be allowed 4 hours for closing statement the senate will vote on the article of impeachment a 2 thirds majority vote is needed for conviction that would require 17 republicans to join all 50 democrats and the 6 republicans voted to go ahead with the impeachment trial even though trump isn't in office and the trial could conclude as soon as next week making it the fastest presidential impeachment trial in american

history overlit well that is a professor of federal jurisprudence at columbia law school and the co-author of impeachment a handbook he joins me now by skype from austin thank you very much indeed for joining us so tell us a little bit about what you've seen so far and the evidence they've laid out what what sprang out at you well i think. they just have was really beyond any kind of refutation that the president organized this insurrection over a period of many months. i discern from the idea that this is just the narrative for historians because you won't get a conviction in the senate. the evidence that the date of the rally was changed to coincide with the acceptance of the electoral slate and the evidence of the white house change the permit to allow the mob to go all the way to the capitol steps

those come pretty close to the criminal code 18 u.s.c. 22832284 but he's read you one sentence the letter makes it a crime to conspire to prevent hinder or delay the execution of any law or by force to seize take or possess any property of the united states and it provides for a 20 year presence of homes. i don't think the president's going to be convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors although this evidence to my satisfaction status does that but it might very well be a predicate for a criminal prosecution and if that so if just to go back to the the trial itself if he doesn't get convicted would there be some other measure that they could use to censure him for this would be a vote of censure. i can. i can imagine some sort of concurrent resolution

and one or both houses censuring the former president there is as i said before a safe harbor for those republican senators who were prepared to say this was an impeachable offense but we can't impeach and convict a private person but. the case being made before the public right now put aside the senators in the audience is absolutely devastating tell me what witnesses we might expect and what role they might have been in this particular impeachment it sounds as though they're going to minimize the witness list that they're not going to bring an extensive list as the clinton testimony went on for several weeks. i'd be surprised if this went on much beyond the middle of next week and if that's the case and presumably that is one of the that would be one of the fastest impeachment yes that's right now what about all my people and we know that the political elite

perhaps or they in the political classes will be glued to this but what about people if they stay want to relabel is a pencil they moved on well it's some of the work day here in the united states. of america most people are not are not watching it as attentively as i am but these. clips these are they're already powerful quotations from his speeches held live on video i think will be played for many many weeks played and replayed. what about former president trump himself i mean if if he's not convicted then as i understand it they couldn't be a vote to prevent him from running for office again so in theory he could run for office again is that something that you think is likely given what we've been hearing today about that but as i mentioned before a statute 18 u.s.c.

2283 has a penalty dished the one i just mentioned a different subsection of the criminal code 2383 provides for a 10 year prison sentence and disqualification from holding any office this is. if they get this within 10 into a criminal trial separately of absolutely it isn't just the senate that can disqualify an official can also be done through the criminal process what about the the defense team getting what will they be taking from what they've heard today and what angle can we expect from former president trump's defense in the next few days . i suspect that they will try to say this was a demonstration that got out of her and that the house managers have sherri picked the. the videotapes but the president is such a troubling tweeter that he has provided ample documentary evidence to hang himself

thank you very much indeed definitely as we have to talk to again later on thank you very much and staying in washington the president joe biden has been speaking at the pentagon i was on jordan is there in washington 1st tell us about the key messages from president biden. well we have we've heard twice now from the u.s. president on wednesday excuse me on tuesday it's been that kind of week the president has 1st announced that there will be new sanctions imposed on the generals in burma who were behind the military coup that happened almost 2 weeks ago about a week and a half ago and he said that this means that among other things the generals and their closest relatives will be unable to access about a $1000000000.00 worth of u.s. based assets as part of the sanctions and that he is doing so through an executive

order not through the usual joint treasury state department process which analyzes people's behavior and then decides how to punish them for their behavior which the u.s. considers a undemocratic or violation of human rights we've also been seen the president who was scheduled to visit the new defense secretary lloyd austin at the pentagon as well as speak to the men and women of the u.s. military to really thank them for their service to underscore that he would be supporting their efforts as their commander in chief and to underscore the importance of trying to promote more fairness more inclusion more diversity and ending sexual abuse and harassment in the u.s. military these are all issues that have been of part of the military for better or

many would say for worse for decades in fact the president made the allusion to the fact that the u.s. military was not officially desegregated until after world war 2 in 1947 and so this was really a chance for the biden white house to show that the president is not sitting at the white house watching the proceedings on capitol hill but instead trying to carry out the business of the united states including dealing with some very important foreign policy issues. in jordan thank you very much indeed. it's almost 2100 g.m.t. this is our jazeera live from london and in the u.s. house impeachment managers have begun giving evidence in the 2nd impeachment trial of former president donald trump a team made up of democrats making the case that the former president incited the

deadly insurrection on capitol hill last month where lead impeachment manager jamie raskin made his opening argument labeling trump the inciter in chief the evidence will show you that ex-president trump was no innocent bystander the evidence will show that he clearly incited the general 6th insurrection it will show that donald trump surrendered his role as commander in chief and became the insider in chief of a dangerous instruction and this was as one of our colleagues put it so cogently on january 6th itself the greatest betrayal of the presidential oath in the history of the united states tom ginsburg is a professor of international law and political science at the university of chicago who joins us by skype from chicago thanks very much for being with.