made up of democrats is making the case that the former president incited the deadly insurrection on capitol hill last month when lead impeachment manager jamie raskin made his opening argument labeling trump the inciter in chief the evidence will show you that ex-president trump was no innocent bystander the evidence will show that he clearly incited the general insurrection. it will show that donald trump surrendered his role as commander in chief and became the insider in chief of a dangerous instruction. and this was as one of our colleagues put it so cogently on january 6th itself the greatest betrayal of the presidential oath in the history of the united states tom ginsburg is a professor of international law and political science at the university of chicago he joins us by skype from chicago thanks very much for being with us what's your

impression of the case so far that they be setting out today but i think the democrats have been quite disappointed they were trying to establish that this was not just one speech but a pattern of behavior that extended obviously over several months and they seem to be pretty effective to me it's i watched. there was a mention of the changes to the to the permits that allowed this rally to go to all the way to capitol at how significant you think that was. well you know i think everyone expected this to be a nonviolent rally there's a bit of a sort of under line racial element here in that the capitol police obviously were extremely unprepared and it's been observed pretty often in the united states that is probably would have been the case if this was a black lives matter march or something like that but you know that is what happened they were expected to be nonviolent obviously they were when the effect of this trial they were going to this of whether president trump is convicted what do

you think the overall impact will be of having a 2nd impeachment in this way when it's obvious he historical to have someone who's been impeached twice i think establishing the record of these events is exactly what the democrats are trying to do a number of the republicans have already made up their minds prejudge the evidence and are not going to vote for it so it's very unlikely that he will suffer the same of a senate disqualification now in some sense that doesn't matter very much because no trump is not done with politics and actually could still go back to the white house even if he was disqualified in the sense that if one of his children became president or something he could you know go live there and even sit in the oval office so you know i think this is just one step in a ongoing process which is clearly that will not be the last chapter of the story of trial what do you expect from his defense team and what i mean you must've seen what they were like yesterday what do you think they need to do. well they're lucky

because we're in the phase of the trial in which the democrats are presenting the case against trump the house managers and so that gives them a little bit of time to regroup because that was not a good opening performance indeed it was such a poor opening performance that they actually lost one of the republican senators bill cassidy from louisiana who decided on the basis of the lack of argument from trump's team that this trial was indeed constitutional. and you think that they will want to take the conversation away from what happened in the run up to them and how do they change the subject if. right so one of their arguments has been to rely on a claim that this was sort of protected free speech and i think most free speech lawyers would you know sort of not agree with that but the reason that they're trying to do this we have very broad free speech rules in the united states and it's arguable that president trump speech would not actually be criminal incitement under our existing law so they're going to try to frame it as you know it was just

doing political speech they're obviously going to try to make the claim that these were people are acting on their own. and of course the democrats are going to try to say no this was really quite well planned event the president had the choice to continue with the stop this deal story he had the choice to call or not call this rally for that particular day and his particular language was coded serve dog whistle calls to violence so that's i think the a to be the terrain of argument what i think is interesting is that there do seem to be a number of republican senators who are taking their constitutional duty seriously and may indeed respond to the quality of the evidence we will see i doubt there will be enough but some of the accusers think you think that the numbers could move up it wouldn't reach than the number required to convict him no i don't think we're going to get to 2 thirds but one doesn't you know a lot of the way the democrats are approaching this is actually personal appeal because it's a very odd trial and that every single member of the court. it was actually

a witness and in some sense of it took so it's a very unusual situation i think from that point of view so you never know there may be that the emotional appeal will change some more minds and i think most people would say probably not thompkins but thank you very much indeed for the time being thank you x. impeachment manager ted knew told senators don't trump incited a violent mob to attack them what you saw was a man so desperate to cling to power that he tried everything he could to keep it and when he ran out a nonviolent measures he turned to the violent mob that attacked your senate chamber on jan respects as you cast your vote after this trial i hope each of you will think of the bravery of all these people who said no to president trump because they knew that this was not right that this was not america.

fisher who's holding the proceedings for us on capitol hill and alan they're in a break at the moment all of just coming back in. some new evidence and new video evidence likely to appear some point. that's right they're going to present a security video that comes from inside capitol hill this is going to be pretty key years far as the democrats are concerned that that the plank of the harm that was done here no we we've heard from the democrats and they have peter managers they want to show provocation and the leader they want to show the the attack and then the harm that was done they've talked about how they came to the gates essentially of capitol hill donald trump in many occasions where he could have taken down the temperature of his supporters they made reference to the bus that was driving through texas it was a biden campaign bus it was suddenly surrounded by a lot of trump supporting cars all the cars were over the top supporting the cars

were being driven by trump supporters and they tried almost to push the bus off the road now at that point we see donald trump could have said look i don't want to see this this is not good but instead he said he thought there was petri it's had done nothing wrong and therefore they're saying sebelius points through the whole process he could have lured the temperature but instead of that he kept stroking it up and it came to a crescendo on the 6th of january when he addressed the rally at the ellipse where he said that people had to fight to take their country back they also played the clip of rudy giuliani about how the has to be hunter hand combat and really essentially what the democrats are saying he fired them up and sent them off and then what happened after that was all because of donald trump so it's not just the road and january the 6th they have been drawing a map for the republicans not that many of them need it but they're saying look

throw the election campaign he said this is the chance to lower the temperature when republican politicians were being threatened when elected officials who were running elections were being threatened he had the chance to come things down when one of the elected. officials in georgia sent a warning saying look if the president doesn't stop coming things those people are going to get killed that should have been a massive red flag but none of this changes donald trump and instead he got the crowd together for january the 6th you obs them to come put this in your diary it's going to be wild he stalks the crowd though the argument about whether or not it's political speech that's certainly what his team are going to concentrate on when they get the chance to present their case with jimmy raskin address that right at the start of proceedings there is a well known test here in the united states that you can't go in to a cinema and show fire because you don't have protected speech there you could cause untold damage by doing that and jimmy raskin said look the president isn't

protected because it was like being in the fire chief sorry to interrupt that started we're going to take you straight back to those events in and listen in to the impeachment trial. where they've just returned from a brief recess so we were told it is going to about 15 minutes and the search should start up again soon and we've been hearing from the impeachment managers the democrats will be setting out the case against former president trump for. they say inciting violence against the government of the united states they've been setting out what they have described as a pattern repeatedly over months of stoking the violence and of attacking senators and members of congress pressuring the justice department attacking vice president pents pressuring and threatening election officials and ignoring adverse court

rulings in the run up to the general the 6 day which was supposed to be the certification of the new president joe biden and while that. group of people group of supporters of president trump gathered outside the capitol then went to speak to them and in that speech they say the democrats argue that he incited violence by using language like they should fight like hell and they should be allowed to go by different rules so we've been hearing a pattern of behavior from president trump set up by the democrats as they try to make the case to convict former president let's bring alan fischer who's watching this for us or interrupted you alan and out they were let 2nd let's listen in sorry . we have order. please. thank you so it's going thank you mr president members of the senate. at this

point representatives plaskett and swore well we'll take you through the actual day of the attack they will recreate the attack as it unfolded focusing on the threats to vice president closely vice president penn speaker pelosi. the joint session and law enforcement. i do want to alert everyone that there is some very graphic violent footage coming to so people are aware and i'm going to call again on ms prosecutor who i should also tell you went to work at the department of justice and was the senior counsel for deputy attorney general larry thompson under attorney general ashcroft so she's a very well trained and experienced prosecutors you can tell

it's to president senators so. almost all of us were here on january 6th and we all have our individual experiences what we felt we saw what we heard we've seen clips of reports in the media but i have to tell you. it was not until preparing for this trial but i understood the full scope and learned the information that you're going to see that i understood the effort to attack our seat of government in order to carry out president trump's mission to prevent the certification of a presidential election it was an attack to our republic

to our democratic process my colleagues manager swalwell and i are going to walk you through the attack on to the cap on the capitol that day and the danger that it pose to the vice president to the speaker of the house to you all the senators my colleagues in the house capitol police and everyone who works in and around this capitol as you have heard president trump have been telling his supporters and his millions of twitter followers that pence had the ability to secure the presidency for trump that mike pence alone had the power to overturn the election results if you would just do it but it 12 55 pm on january

6th vice president pence formally refused the president's demand. he wrote and i quote it is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not. paint ended his letter with a passage including the words i will do my duty even though the count resulted in the defeat of his party and his own candidacy vice president pence had the courage to stand against the president tell the american public the trying and uphold our constitution

that is patriotism that patriotism is also would put vice president in so much danger on january 6th by the mob sent by our president to the president and the mob he incited that duty to our constitution was an all out be trail and the vice president was the direct target of that rage at 12 53 pm senators members of congress vice president pence were in their respective chambers outside rioters including some linked to the proud voice broke through the outer barricade surrounding the lawn of the capitol. was. was.

was. was was was. was. was. was. was. was. was was. 12 minutes later vice president pence began presiding over the joint session of congress to certify the results of the presidential election you can see vice president pence gaveling in the joint session here. now to speak to members of congress pursuant to the constitution

and the laws of the united states the senate and house of representatives remaining in joint session. verify the certificates and count the votes of the electors of the several states for president and vice president of the united states while vice president pence presided over the joint session trump supporters began their assault on our capital radio communications from the metropolitan police department highlight how during and following president trump's beach tram supporters descended on the capitol and became increasingly violent what you're about to hear has not been made public before. well for her joining. in and called in were coming around. and i don't.

know what did you got a group about charging up there on the web. you know if they're in the wrong now. they were doing. 7 what. we're pretty certain drug. users when you talk a couple of hours. here while we were near. the girl after attempting to dismantle the outermost perimeter the rioters did everything in their power to

storm past the police and into the capitol they coordinated moving metal barricades the police were using to maintain distance listen to the yelling of pulled them this way as they grabbed the barriers and attacked officers trying to hold the line. at about 110. and 1 23 pm respectively capitol police sent out the 1st evacuation alerts of the day telling people to evacuate the madison building

and the cannon building respectively shortly after at 1 45 pm trump supporters surged past capitol police protecting the capitol's west steps the side that is facing the white house in another radio communication between metropolitan police officers you can hear an officer to clear that there is a riot at the capitol at 1 49 pm. do whatever you have all reported word for word if you are a warrant. what occurred here compared. to where were. 49 hours occurring in a riot the next video as well as several failures that follow have a model of the capitol complex the video is from the west front of the capitol on

the senate side the side facing the white house watch the red dot which moves up the lower steps of the capitol indicating the approximate location of the rioters as they surged past the police. was. while the mob that donald trump sent to stop the certification came closer and closer to breaching the capitol just one floor

below where we are now vice president pence continued to preside over the session in the senate chamber above at about 2 12 pm secret service quickly and suddenly evacuated vice president pence from the senate floor here's the immediate reaction to that evacuation you know audio that is there is cut out looks like they decided they just went south really quick yes they did that's exactly what just happened there and i should mike pence out they moved him fast there was i saw the motions too while the vice president pence was being evacuated from the senate chamber riders were at that time breaking into the capitol this next video shows their approach and the initial breach of the capitol complex remember to watch the red dot which broke is being tracking

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was. was. was. now we're going to show you through security footage that has not been made public before what that same breach looked like from the inside now because this is security footage there's no sound.

as the video begins we are seeing the inside view as the mob approaches from outside and beats the windows and doors you can see that the rider 1st break the window with the wooden being that you saw previously and a lone police officer inside response. and begins to spray the 1st man who enters but is quickly overwhelmed i want you to pay attention to the 1st group of the sailings as they break into the building the 2nd man through the window is wearing full tactical body armor and is carrying a baseball bat others are carrying right shields among this group are members of

the proud boyce some of whom like dominick basilica who was recently indicted on federal conspiracy charges we will discuss later can watch where they're coming on our model as well when i 1st saw this model that was created for this i thought back to september 11th i know a lot of you senators were here some of you might have been members on the house side i was also here on september 11th i was a staffer at that time my office was on the west front of the capitol i worked in the capitol and i was on the house side this year is 20

years since the attacks of september 11th and almost every day i remember that 44 americans gave their lives to stop the plane that was headed to this capitol building i thank them every day for saving my life and the life of so many others those americans sacrifice their lives for love of country honor duty all the things that america means. the capitol stands because of people like that this capital that was conceived by our founding fathers that was built by slaves that remains through the sacrifice of service men and women around the world and when i think of that

and i think of these insurgents these images incited by our own president of the united states attacking this capital to stop the certification of a presidential election our democracy our republic at the same time that that breach on this capitol building occurred at approximately 2 30 pm just one floor up while senator lankford was speaking on the senate floor senator grassley who had taken over for vice president pence called an unscheduled immediate recess of the senate a senate aide approach senator line for it and informed him that the capitol had

been breached senator grassley is a mediately scored it out of the senate chamber. and forced her through her and thank you. now while this was going on officer eugene goodman responded to the initial breach you all may have seen footage of officer good been previously but there's more to his heroic story in this security footage you can see officer goodman running to respond to the initial breech officer goodman passes senator mitt romney and directs him to turn around in order to get to safety. on the 1st floor just

beneath them the mob had already started to search for the senate chamber officer goodman made his way down to the 1st floor where he encountered the same insurrectionists we just saw watch breached the capitol in this video we can see the riders surge toward officer goodman recalled that the riders are in red and officer goodman in this model is in blue watch officer goodman who backs up the stairs. thank 6 you thank god.

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right was no. was was was. ok thank you that was. although they were shouting that they did not have any weapons we know from the earlier video that that's not true the 2nd assailant through that breach was the one carrying a metal baseball bat we know there were other weapons there that day did you hear the other shouts we're here for you. he's one person we're thousands and where do they count the votes they were

coming at the urging of donald trump to keep congress a separate branch of government from certifying the results of a presidential election as the riders reached the top of the stairs they were within 100 feet of where the vice president was sheltering with his family and they were just a feet away from one of the doors to vist chamber where many of you remained at that time i also want to show you a different angle from the security field footage of officer goodmans x. this video is on the 2nd floor of the senate wing of the capitol the red dot is you recall represents the insurrectionists the blue dot is officer goodman who led the mob away from the chamber just minutes earlier

on the left hand side of the video just inside the hallway is the door to the senate chamber and watch how officer goodman provokes the riders and purposefully draws them away from the door to the senate chamber and towards the other officers waving down the hall the wider seen carrying a baseball bat in this video is the same one we saw moments ago breaching the window on the 1st floor while all of this was going on. vice president pence was still in the room near the senate chamber it was not until 226 that he was evacuated to a secure location this next security video shows that evacuation his movements are depicted by the orange dot in our model the red and blue dots

represents the location where the mom and officer good men were and where officer goodman led the mob away from the chamber just moments ago you can see vice president pence and his family quickly move down the stairs the vice president turns around briefly as he's headed down as spence was being evacuated rioters started to spread through out the capitol those inside helped other riders break in through doors in several locations around this entire building and the mob was looking for a vice president pants because of his patriotism because the vice president had refused to do what the president demand and overturn the election results

during the assault on the capital extremists reportedly corden aided online and discuss how they could hunt down the vice president journalists in the capital reported they heard rioters say they were looking for pants in order to execute him trump supporters had a wreck did a gallows on the lawn in front of the capitol building. another group of riders chanted hang mike pence as they stood in the open door of the capitol building you can hear the security alarm from the door in the background and you can hear the mob calling for the death of the vice president of the united states.

this was an isolated area or incident where that was being told where that was being said it was going on everywhere here's another example of the crowd outside yelling bring out pants bring em out. or go. out. right. 6 after president trump had primed his followers for months and inflamed the rally go as that morning it is no wonder that the vice president of the united states was the target of their wrath after pence refused to overturn the election results listen to this man explaining

why the cowards. headed there and saw them were ordered away because of fear of. course they're cowards cafe's a people tell you the right the parents lied to us is a total treasonous. that he is they would vote for whoever. got a revolver you know. the words like the american people are very good. so good luck with that he said. peace out. several ensure insurrectionists describe what they had planned to do if they encountered the vice president or other lawmakers one of them dominic basilica also known as bad as is a member of the proud boys as we discuss his ola came to the capitol on january 6th with deadly intentions he commandeered

a capitol police shield used it to smash a glass window entered the capitol and pave the way for dozens of insurrectionists as you recall from an earlier video to zoe was one of the 1st wave of rioters to breach the building on the left you can see a screenshot from the video of the break in we showed earlier and on the right you can see preside in the mob chase capitol police officer eugene goodman through the building preside over as the man in the center of the photo with the gray beard result has since been charged with 8 federal crimes for his conduct related to january 6 according to an f.b.i. agent's affidavit submitted to the court the group that was with him during the sack of the capitol confirmed that they were out to murder quote anyone they got their hands on here's what the f.b.i.

said and i quote other members of the group talked about things they had done that day and they said that anyone they got their hands on they would have killed including nancy pelosi and i quote they would have killed vice president mike pence if given the chance they were talking about assassinating the vice president of the united states during the course of the attack the vice president never left the capitol remain locked down with his family. with his family inside the building remember that if you think about these images in the sounds of the attack the vice president our 2nd in command was always at the center of it vice president pant was threatened with death by the president's supporters because he rejected president trump's demand

that he overturn the election the mob also went after speaker of the house who alongside the vice president was provoked siding over the joint session of the certification in the house chamber the chilling evidence shows that on january 6th armed and organized insurrectionists trained their sights on speaker pelosi they sought out the speaker on the floor and in her office publicly declared their intent to harm or kill her ransacked her office and terrorize her staff and they did it because donald trump sent them on this mission as the insurrectionists got closer capitol police rushed the speaker from the house floor at 2 15 pm mere minutes after the capitol was 1st breached they recognize immediately that she was in danger the speaker was not just rushed from the floor

the capitol police deemed the threat so dangerous that they evacuated her entirely from the capitol complex rushing her to a secure off site location the insurrectionists intent to murder the speaker of the house is well documented in charging documents that are now available we know from the riders themselves that if they had found speaker pelosi they would have killed her. i have already discussed proud boys member a dominant position list since been charged with 8 federal crimes for his conduct on january 6 as you will recall according to the f.b.i. agents affidavit submitted to the court the group he attacked the capitol with confirmed that quote anyone they got their hands on they would have killed including nancy pelosi william calhoun

a lawyer from georgia also participated in the interaction that day and he too has been charged for his actions this insurrectionists detailed his criminal activity at the capitol online calhoun wrote about his of on his own facebook page here's the post calhoun stated quote and get this the 1st of us who got upstairs kicked in nancy pelosi as office door and pushed down the halls towards her inner sanctum the mob howling with rage crazy nancy probably would have been torn into little pieces but she was nowhere to be seen crazy mansi that's trump's nickname for the speaker of the house then he explains that he and his group only abandoned their claim to the speaker's office when quote a swat team showed up he writes quote then

a swat team showed and we retreated back to the rotunda and continued our hostile takeover of the capitol building retreated hostile takeover he's using military terms for this attack. the mob continued to look for speaker pelosi through out the time they occupied the capitol including invading her offices watch now how the mob searches for speaker pelosi is office which is marked in red and the house chamber itself. was.

during the siege the speaker staff took cover in her office hiding in fear for their lives for hours as riders broke in and ransacked her office as the rioters were breaking into the capitol her staff retreated into an interior room 8 of them gathered in a conference room about the same time capitol police announced the capitol had been breech speaker pelosi staff heeded the call to shelter in place on our model you can see the riders in the rotunda in red and the speaker's office again in orange so this is a security video so there is no sound as you can see here the staff moves from their offices through the halls and then enters a door on the right hand side that's the outer door of

a conference room which also has an inner door that they barricaded with furniture the staff then hid under a conference room table in that inner room this is the last staffer going in and then barricading themselves inside of the inner office. after just 7 minutes of them barricading themselves and the last staffer entering the door on the right a group of riders entered the hallway outside and once inside the riders have free rein in the speaker of the house's offices in this a curate e.o. video pay attention to the door that we saw those staffers leading into and going into one of the riders you can

see he's throwing him spotty against the door 3 times until he breaks open that outer door luckily when faced with the inner door he moves on another rider later tried unsuccessfully to break through that inner door at this point the mob had already broken into the speaker's formal conference room that is in the back of the hall at the top of the video i want to play some audio we have of the speaker staff with the riders at the door that day you can hear the terror in their voice as they describe what's happening to them as they are barricaded in that conference room please listen carefully because the staffers whispering into a phone as he hides from the riders that are outside the door.

you can hear the pounding in the background as that staffer is speaking one of those staffers explain later that they could hear the mob going through her offices breaking down the door and yelling where are you nancy the mob also pillage and vandalise the speaker's office and documented their crimes on social media. they stole objects desecrated the office of the speaker of the house of representatives of the united states as you can see in these photos riders broke down a door they also shattered a mirror at 2 50 pm several riders including richard bigelow

barnett entered speaker pelosi as office the world is all all now too familiar with the images from the slides if you look closely however at the now infamous pictures of barnett with his feet on the desk you might see something that you didn't notice previously here's a better look as this photo highlights he's carrying a stun gun tucked into his waistband the f.b.i. dentist 5 the device as a 950000 volt stun gun walking stick the weapon could have caused serious pain and incapacitated anyone barnett had used it against richard barnett bragged about his actions he was proud of the way he desecrated the speaker of the house's office he left a note we will not back down here's barnett in

his own words. but if you're still up where on your part it might be you know but. antarctica where i made all this i got. operator corker down you can see why they were good and all the time no longer than to say there's you're going to hear. trump's mob ransacked the speaker of the house's office they terrorized her staff. again that is a mob that was sent by the president of the united states to stop the certification of an election the vice president the speaker of the

house the 1st and 2nd in line to the presidency were performing their constitutional duties presiding over the election certification and they were put in danger because president trump put his own desires his own need for power over his duty to the constitution and our democratic process president trump put a target on their backs and his mom broke into the capitol to hunt them down.

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metropolitan police were overwhelmed by president trump's mom perimeters were broken the capitol. had been breached. those officers kept fighting back for hours and hours to hold the line they fought to defend the capitol building and all of us within it but they weren't there just to protect us and they did and our staff and the custodial staff and all the people who work so hard in this building they were there to protect the votes of the american people that were being counted that day. i will show you more later about what that day was like for those brave officers but 1st let's go back to what was happening or manager plaskett left off in the house chamber. riders who had entered

the building through the senate quickly spread out through the capitol many headed towards the house and senate chambers after speaker pelosi was ushered out chairman mcgovern was presiding in the house attempting to keep the counting process going on our phones members were receiving security updates and watching social media to see the horror that was going on outside we never thought it would make its way in by 2 25 pm rioters who were already in the building opened the east side doors of the capitol rotunda to let more of the mob in they quickly flooded through the doors overwhelming the officers this is new security footage of those doors and as before the mob is identified with the red dot on the model of the capitol if you look closely you'll see the 1st person through the door is holding

a trump fly. at the same time just one floor below the mob violently pushed through a line of capitol police officers and over took the area we all know that area in the capitals the crypt this is directly beneath the rotunda at the very center of

the capitol the butt of of the the of of of of the i'm a but inside the house chamber a security officer suspended the florida paid to update members. that. there. if. we were told there were tear gas masks underneath our seats and be prepared to grab

them determined to keep the count going chairman mcgovern called the house back into session but only 4 minutes later at 2 30 pm the house abruptly recessed a new security announcement was made. get down on your chairs if necessary so we have folks entering the rotunda coming down this way so we'll update you as soon as we can but just be prepared to call. as i heard that announcement on the floor i saw the new house chaplain on just her 4th day on the job walked to the front podium unannounced and amidst the chaos she started to recite a prayer for peace uncertain what would happen next i sent a text message to my wife i love you in the babies

please hug them for me i imagine many of you sent a similar message. what we could not see from inside the chamber was that outside the mob was growing larger and larger and approaching our doors but we could hear them this security footage which does not have sound shows a close up of trump's mob as they move toward the 2nd floor of the house chamber to stop the counting of votes. in the back of the group you see one individual carrying a stop the steel sign they get within footsteps of the house door.

the next video is the viewpoint of the insurrectionists it begins with the mob amassing and then cuts ahead to show you their search to the house door. was the god. was leading was the. was the who did the deed. was. the. guy who was just the. do do do do you do when you're not. you're going to hear it. was the best of.

the way. was. the. was the those doors to orient you at home are the doors of the president the united states walks through when he or she gives a state of the union address you may have heard one man yelled no violence and another responded it's too late for that they don't listen without back they were there to stop the certification of the election at this point inside the house chamber we could now hear the pounding on the doors at 2 35 pm members on the house floor were told an evacuation route was secured and was time to leave this video shows members of congress exit into the side of the podium.