tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera February 13, 2021 9:00pm-10:01pm +03
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that was in response to this new evidentiary particle that came in but i in my closing i want to thank you for your remarkable attention and your seriousness of purpose befitting your office we have offered you overwhelming and irrefutable and certainly unrefuted evidence that former president trump incited this insurrection against us to quote the statement representative liz cheney made in january quote on january 6th 2021 a violent mob attacked the united states capitol to obstruct the process of our democracy and stop the counting of presidential lector of votes this insurrection caused injury death and destruction in the most sacred space in our republic she continued representatively continue much more will become clear in coming days and weeks but what we know now is enough the president the united states summon this mob assembled this mob and lit the flame of this attack everything that followed
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was his doing none of this would have happened without the president the president could have immediately and forcefully intervene to stop the violence she did not there has never been a greater betrayal by the president of the united states of his office and his oath to the constitution i will vote to impeach the president represented cheney was right she based her vote on the facts on the evidence and on the constitution. and never dence the video documentary eyewitnesses only grown stronger and stronger in more detail right up till today right up to 10 minutes ago over the course of the senate trial. and i have no doubt that you all noticed that despite the various propaganda reels and so on president trump's lawyers have said almost nothing to
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contest or overcome the actual evidence of the press of former president trump's conduct that we presented much less have they brought their client forward to tell us his side of the story we sent him a letter last week which they rejected out of hand the former president noted states refused to come and tell us and i ask any of you if you are charged with inciting violent insurrection against our country and you were falsely accused would you come and testify i know i would i'd be there at 7 o'clock in the morning waiting for the doors to open i'm sure that's true of 100 senators in this room i hope it's true of a 100 senators in this room said it was lectured several times yesterday that cancel culture will not even 2 weeks ago the president's most
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reliable supporters in the house i'm sorry not the president the former president's most reliable supporters in the house tried to cancel out representative cheney because of a courageous and patriotic defense of the republic and the truth and the constitution they tried to strip her of her leading role as chair of the house republican conference but you know what i hope everybody takes a 2nd to reflect on this the conference rejected this plainly retaliatory and cowardly attempt to punish her for telling the truth to her construct of her constituents and her country and voting for impeachment who says you can't stand up against police who says in my mind was cheney is a hero for standing up for the truth. and resisting this retaliatory cancel culture. that was that she was subjected to but she beat them on
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a vote of $145.00 to $61.00 more than $2.00 to $1.00. you know ben franklin a great champion in the light meant an enemy of political fanaticism in cowardice and of course another great philadelphian once wrote this i have observed that wrong is always growing more wrong until there is no bearing it anymore and that right however opposed comes right at last comes right at last think about that. this is america home of the brain land of the free america ben franklin who said if you make yourself a sheep the wolves will eat you don't make yourself a sheep the wolves will each year the miracle of thomas
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jefferson who said it another difficult moment a little patience and we shall see see the reign of witches pass over their spirits dissolve in the people recovering their true sight restore their government to its true principles. america tom payne who said the mind once in lightened cannot again become dark now we showed you hour after hour of real time evidence demonstrating every step of donald trump's constitutional crime we showed you how he indoctrinated the mob with his orwellian propaganda about how the election he lost by more than 7000000 votes in 306-2230 2 in the electoral in the octal college. which he described as a landslide when he won by the exact same margin in 2016 was actually a landslide victory for him being stolen away by a bipartisan conspiracy and fraud and corruption we showed you
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how 61 courts an 88 judges federal state local trial appellate from the lowest courts in the land of the united states supreme court across the street and 8 federal judges he himself named to the bench all found no basis in fact or law for his outlandish endure arranged inventions and concoctions about the election in the meantime president trump tried to bully state level officials to commit a fraud on the public by literally finding votes we examine the case study of georgia record to threaten republican brad raffensperger to find him 11780 votes that's all he wanted he said 11780 votes don't we are 11700 votes that's all you wanted to know if i didn't victory and to win the election raffensperger
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ended up with savage death threats against him and his family telling him he deserved a firing squad now the election official urged trumped to cut it out where people would get hurt and killed a prescient warning indeed raffensperger end up saying that he and his family supported donald trump gave him money and now trump threw us under the bus. we saw what happened in lansing michigan with the extremists because of a did which led to 2 shocking capital sieges in a criminal conspiracy by extremists to kidnap and likely assassinate gov whitmer we saw him trying to get state legislatures to disavow and overthrow their popular election results and replace them with trump electors we showed you the process of summoning the mob reaching out urging people to come to washington for a wild time as we celebrate president's day on monday think imagine is there another president in our history who would urge supporters to come
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to washington for a wild time you saw how he embraced the violent extremist elements like the proud boys who are told in a nationally televised presidential candidate debate to stand back and stand by which became their official slogan is they converged on washington with other extremist and seditious groups and competed to be the lead stormtroopers of the attack on this building. you saw the assembly of the mob on january 6th and how beautiful that angry mob must have looked to donald trump as he peered down from the lectern with the seal of the president of the united states of america in plays and on it that crowd was filled with extremists in tactical gear armed to the teeth and ready to fight and other brawling maggots supporters all of this all of them saying stop the studio right now and he said he was going to march with them to the capitol even though the permit. for the rally specifically for beta marks
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but he said he would march with them giving them more comfort that what they were doing was legitimate it was ok but of course he stayed back as he presumably didn't want to be too close to the action at the capitol as the lawyers called it not an insurrection they urged yesterday it's an action he didn't want to be too close to the action when all hell was about to break loose now incitement as we've discussed requires an inherently fact based evidentiary inquiry and this is what we did. we gave you many hours of specific factual details about use comes from cheney's words the president how the president some in the mob assembled the mob incited it lit the match sending them off to the capitol where they thought as they yelled out that they'd been invited by the president the
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united states and then of course they unleashed unparalleled violence against our overwhelmed and besieged but heroic police officers who you thoughtfully honored yesterday when the officers got in their way as they entered the capitol at the behest of the president the united states to stop the steel. now in commits most senators must be convinced by this overwhelming and specific detail because most americans are but say you still have your doubts you think the president really thought that he was sending his followers to participate in a peaceful nonviolent rally the kind that might have been organized by julian bond who my distinguished opposing counsel brought up ella baker by moses our late beloved colleague john lewis for the student nonviolent coordinating committee maybe the president really thought this was going to be like the march on washington organized by bayard rustin and dr martin luther king who said
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nonviolence is the answer to the crucial moral and political questions of our time so let's say you're still flirting with the idea that donald trump's conduct was totally appropriate as he proclaimed right off the bat and he's the innocent victim of a massive accident or a catastrophe like a fire or flood as we were invited to frame it on our opening day by distinguished co-counsel or opposing counsel and you think maybe we're just looking for somebody to blame for this nightmare and catastrophe that has befallen the republic we're just looking for someone to blame well here's the key question then in resolving your doubts if you're in that category how did donald trump react when he learned of the violent storming of the capitol and the threats to senators members of the house and his own vice president as well as the images he saw on t.v. of the pummeling and beating and harassment of our police officers did he spring
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into action to stop the violence and save us to even wonder about his own security since an out of control anti-government mob could come after him to. did he quickly try to get in touch with the were denounce the proud boys the oath keepers the rally organizers the save the save america rally organizers and everyone on the extreme right to tell them that this was not what he had in mind it's a big mistake call it off call it off called off as representative gallagher begged him to do on national television no he delighted in it he reveled in it he exulted in it he could not understand why the people around him did not share his delight and then a long period of silence ensued while the mob beat the daylights out of police officers and invaded this building as you saw in security footage and proceeded to
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hunt down vice president might pents as a traitor and denounced him cursed speaker pelosi both of whom you heard mob members say they wanted to kill they were both in real danger and our government could have been thrown into absolute turmoil without the hero ism of our offers officers and the bravery and courage of a lot of people in this room here's what republican representative anthony gonzales of ohio said he's a former pro football player we are imploring the president to help to stand up to help defend the united states capitol and united states congress which is under attack we are begging essentially and he was nowhere to be found nowhere to be found and as i've emphasized this morning that dereliction of duty that desertion of duty was central to his incitement of insurrection and unix triple bill from it inextricable balland together it reveals his state of mind that day what he was
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thinking as he provoked the mob to violence and further violence. it shows how he perpetuated his continuing offense on january 6th his course of conduct charged in the article of impeachment impeachment as he further incited the mob during the attack aiming it at vice president mike pence himself while failing to quell it in either his roles as commander in chief who or his real role that day insider in chief. and it powerfully demonstrates that the ex-president knew of course that violence was foreseeable that it was predictable and predicted that day since he was not surprised and not horrified no he was delighted and through is acts of omission and commission that day he abused his office by siding with the insurrectionists at almost every point rather than with the congress of the united
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states rather than with the constitution in just a moment my colleague mr sweeney will address president trump's conduct his actions and inactions is copiable state of mind during the attack as he will stab us yesterday's explosive revelations about house minority leader kevin mccarthy is desperate call the trump and trump's truly astounding reaction confirm that trump was doing nothing to help the people in this room or this building it's now clear beyond doubt that trump supported the actions of the mob and so he must be convicted it's that simple when he took the stage and generally 6 he knew exactly how combustible the situation was he knew there were many people in the crowd who were ready to jump into action to engage in violence at any signal that he needed them to fight like hell to stop the steel and that's exactly what he told them to do then he aimed them straight here right down pennsylvania the capitol where he
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told them to steal was occurring that is the counting the work for college votes and we all know what happened next they attacked this building they disrupted the peaceful transfer of power they injured and killed people convinced that they were acting on his instructions and with his approval and protection and while that happened he further incited them while failing to defend us if that's not grounds for conviction if that's not a high crime and misdemeanor against the republican united states of america then nothing is president trump must be convicted for the safety and security of our democracy and our people mr sissel in.
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the president distinguished senators as we've demonstrated there is overwhelming evidence that president trump incited the violence and knew violence was forseeable on january 6th he knew that many in the crowd were posed for violence at his urging and in fact many in the sea of thousands in the crowd were wearing body armor and helmets and holding sticks and flag poles and then he not only provoked that very same crowd but aimed them at the capitol he literally pointed at this building at us during his speech he pointed to the building where congress was going to certify the election results and where he knew the vice president himself was presiding over the process so no one is suggesting that president trump intended every detail of what happened on january 6th but we need to reacted the sea of thousands before him who are portly ready to engage in real violence we're told that crowd to fight
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like hell he incited violence targeted at the capital and he most certainly for saud my colleague mary jeanne will stand up after me and walk you through the overwhelming evidence that supports those claims i want to start though by talking about what happened after that there was a lot of discussion yesterday about what the president knew and when he knew it there are certain things that we do not know about what the president did that day because the president at his former president trump has remained silent about what he was doing during one of the bloodiest attacks on our capital since $812.00 despite of full and fair opportunity to come forward he's refused to come and tell his story as america raskin said we would all do that. and dr i would insist on it if i were accused of a grave and serious crime that i was innocent of i would demand the right to tell my side of the story present trump declined but there are certain facts that are
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undisputed that we know to be true despite the president's refusal to testify which is counsel either ignored entirely or didn't and couldn't dispute before i go to those facts let me quickly just touch on a few things 1st president trump and his counsel have resorted to arguments that the evidence presented was somehow manufactured or hidden from them and i want to be very clear about this because this is important in terms of the timing of when they received materials here defense counsel and access to all materials when they were entitled to have them under senate route resolution 47 and they cannot and have not alleged otherwise as to their desperate claim that evidence was somehow manufactured they have not allege that one tweet from their client was actually inaccurate or can we got these tweets which are core statements from the former
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president from a public archive and they are all correct. you also know the president claims about evidence being manipulated also are untrue because they didn't even object to the introduction of the evidence when they had the opportunity to do so so i hope we can now see that those issues aside and turn to the facts of this case and really set the record straight about the undisputed facts in this case about what the president knew that day and when he knew it that the outset i me say this as you may recall in direct response to a question yesterday president trump's counsel stated and i quote at no point was the president informed the vice president was in any danger and quote as we walk through these undisputed facts you will see quite clearly that is simply not true as you can see here from just after 12 pm just before 2 pm president trump
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delivered his statements at the rally which incited initial wave of. protesters coming down to the capitol and his speech was still ongoing and you saw the evidence of people broadcast not on their phones he finished his speech at about 1 11 pm at which point a much larger wave surged toward us here at the capitol ripping down scaffolding and triggering calls for law enforcement assistance 30 minutes later at 1 49 pm as the violence intensified president trump treated video of his remarks at the rally with the caption quote our country has had enough we will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about and quote. during that half hour following that tweet the situation here drastically deteriorated insurrectionist breached the capital barriers that steps in the complex itself by $212.00 the insurrection is
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mob had overwhelmed the police and started their violent attack on the capital. and as you all know this attack occurred and played out on live television every major network was showing it we've shown you during the course of this trial side by side exactly what the president have seen on t.v. or his twitter account we've also shown you that he would have seen around 2 12 pm images of vice president pans being rushed off the senate floor now i won't replay all of that for you but for timing purposes here's the footage reacting to vice president pence leaving the floor and audiotape is that it's quite it looks like they say about the senate they just for all intents out yes they did that's exactly what just happened there and i should like then so they moved them fast there was i saw the motions to. defense counsel seems to suggest that somehow the
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president of the united states was not aware of this the president had no idea that his is be his vice president had been evacuated from the senate floor for his safety because violent rioters had broken into the capitol with thousands more coming and with the capitol police completely overwhelmed this was on live television so defense counsel suggesting that the president of the united states knew less about this than the american people this is just not possible. that the secret service failed to mention his vice president as being rushed from the senate for his own protection that nobody in the white house thought to alert him. but none of our law enforcement agencies raised their concern to the commander in chief that the vice president was being evacuated from the senate floor as a violent mob assault of the capitol it simply cannot be and with each
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passing minute on the timeline of events on january 6th it grows more and more inconceivable let's continue forward in time between $212.00 to $24.00 the senate recessed speaker nancy pelosi was ushered off the floor the capitol police announced a breach and a lockdown and the insurrectionist mob began chanting hang mike pence it was unfolding on live t.v. in front of the entire world so again let me ask you does it strike you as credible that nobody not a single person informed the president that his vice president had been evacuated or that the president didn't glance at the television or his twitter account and learn about the events that were having remember this was the day of the electoral college remember his obsession with stopping the certification. just
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not credible for the president at no point knew his vice president was in this bell building and was in real danger centers i submit to you these facts this timeline is undisputed at 2 24 pm after rioters breached the barriers after calls for assistance after riders stormed the building after vice president pants was rushed from the senate floor and just before vice president pence was further evacuated for safety president trump decided to attack his own vice president on twitter. the undisputed facts confirm that not only must president trump have been aware of the vice president's danger but he still sent out a tweet attacking him. further inciting the very mob that within just a few feet of him inside of this very building the vice president was there with his family was in danger for his life they were chanting hang mike pence and
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had erected a noose outside and as we've shown the mob responded to president trump attack instantly the tweet was read aloud on a bullhorn if you remember that video insurrectionists began chanting again about mike pence and in those critical moments we see president trump engaging in a dereliction of his duty by further inciting the mob in real time to target the vice president with knowledge that the insurrection was ongoing and that of course included in the conduct charged in this article of impeachment the former president's counsel suggestion otherwise is completely wrong his further incitement is impeachable conduct continued during the course of this assault itself and it's part of a constitutional crime and was entirely and completely
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a part of his in indefensible failure to protect the congress. now there's been some confusion as to the phone call i referenced with senator leahy so i want to be clear about certain facts that are not in dispute 1st senator lee has confirmed that the call occurred at 2 26 pm so i've added that to the timeline above remember by this phone call the vice president has just been evacuated on live television for his own safety and down from pat after that tweet in an attack on him which the insurgents read on a bullhorn and a few minutes after dow trumps tweet he didn't reach out to check on the vice president's safety he called a senator to ask about delaying the certification call was interrupted on sunday or temporal has sense explained and i quote i looked at the phone and it said the white house on it i said hello the president said
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a few words i said mr president they're taking the vice president out and they want me to get off the phone and i've got to go and call. that was his 2nd evacuation that day a minute later live feeds documented the insurgents chanting mike pence is a traitor at this point even if somehow he'd missed it earlier it's inconceivable that the president the former president was unaware that the vice president was in danger and what does the president do after hearing that does he rush to secure the capital see do anything to quell the mob does he call his vice president to check on his safety we all know the answer to those questions too there can be no dispute he took none of those steps not a single one. even after learning that centers were being
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evacuated. that vice president prints had to also been evacuated he did nothing to help the vice president and here's some more evidence that we've since learned at some point over the following 30 minutes president trump spoke to minority leader kevin mccarthy and as representative jamie herrera butler has revealed evidence that now has been stipulated as part of the evidentiary record and that conversation kevin mccarthy is pleading with the former president to do something he 1st tries to assign the blame to another group and leader mccarthy says no these are your supporters mr president what is the president say response not send people right away i didn't realize you were in danger he says well kevin
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and i quote a quote unquote well kevin i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are and quote. i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are the president just said he conveyed in that treat at 601 was essentially saying you got what you deserve let me say that again not only was the president fully aware of the vice president's situation and the situation that we were all in when he was asked for help when he's asked if any capital less than 30 minutes after inciting this violence against his own vice president president trump refused requests for assistance and he told us why his singular focus stopping the certification of the election of his opponent. he incited the violence
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to stop the sort of occasion he attacked the vice president and further incited the insurrection to pressure the vice president to stop the certification he called center tolerable to stop this sort of occasion and he refused to send help to congress and this congress and the vice president here i say it's we're in mortal danger because he wanted to stop the certification and he did these things attacking the vice president calling center tarboro refusing representative mccarthy's requests with full knowledge of the violent attack that was underway at that point he chose retaining his own power over the safety of americans i can't imagine more damning evidence of his state of mind the call ended with a screaming match interrupted by violent rioters breaking through the windows representative mccarthy's office centers the president knew this
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was happening he didn't do anything to help his vice president or any of you or any of the brave officers and other employees serving the american people that day is sole focus was stealing the election for himself and he apparently has still not thought of anyone else according to a more new facts revealed last night the vice president's team does not agree with the president's counsel or the present counsel's assessment either the report and i quote says pence this team does not agree with the trump lawyers assessment that trump was concerned about pencil safety trump didn't call them that day or for 5 days after that no one else on trump's team called his pens was a vacuum added to one room in a number with screaming mob nearby. they
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council whirls. senators remember one chairs go where no one would have a jersey and in that regard the. so for the. average chairs to speak. and the chair the chair will consider the issue. centers remember as one of you said during this attack they could have killed us all our staff the officers protecting all of us everyone and president trump not only incited it continued its side inciting it as it occurred with attacks on his vice president and then willfully refused to defend us furthering his provocation incitement by the mob siding with the mob siding with the violent insurrections criminals who
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killed and injured police officers sworn to protect us because they were quote more upset about the election than leader mccarthy whose facts are undisputed. president trump has not offered any evidence or any argument to disprove them his lawyers almost entirely ignore these facts and their short presentation we have only his counsel's false claim yesterday that quote at no point was the president informed that the vice president was in any danger and co a claim that is refuted not just by common sense but by the time line you have seen and also the vice president's legal team so there can be no doubt that the moment we most needed a president to preserve protect and defend us president trump instead willfully betrayed us he violated his oath he left all of us and offices like eugene goodman to our own devices against an attack he had incited and
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he alone could stop that is why he must be convicted and i'd like to conclude by making one final point that follows from 2 directly from what i just discussed our case and the article of impeachment before you absolutely includes president trumps dereliction of duty and january 6th is failure as insider in chief to immediately quell or call of the mob his failure as commander in chief to immediately do everything in his power to secure the capital that is a further basis on which to convict and there can be no doubt of that the ongoing constitutional misconduct is like any continue offense and the proof of that is overwhelming and most directly his dereliction of duty offers conclusive irrefutable evidence that he acted willfully as we charge he wasn't furious or
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sad or shocked like virtually everyone else in america he was reported by those around him as delighted rather than rush to our aid or demand is a mob retreat he watched the attack on t.v. and praised the mob to leader mccarthy as more loyal to him. more upset about the election that was all that mattered his reaction is also further evidence of his intent exact he acted exactly the way a person would act if they had indeed incited the mob to violence to stop the steel . moreover as i've shown president trams dereliction and desertion of duty includes his decision to further incite the mob even as he failed to protect us of the mob hunted vice president pants in these very halls he attacked twice presidents all he tried to stop the steel he spread the big lie we all saw how is mob responded in
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real time. this further incitement was part of his dereliction of duty was also part of his course of conduct encouraging and provoking the mob to violence president trump's dereliction of duty also highlights how foreseeable the attack was to him in his tweet just after 6 pm he said and i quote these are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so and ceremoniously and viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly unfairly treated for so long this tweet continued his indorsement of the attack his failure to condemn it is desertion of duty but it also reveals his view this was of course what would happen when congress refused his demand to reject the election but he continued to tell his supporters was stolen and he'd actually won in
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a landslide gainey wasn't surprised he saw this as a predictable result of his repeated demands that his followers stop the steal by any means possible source all connected is dereliction of duty his desertion of duty was part and parcel of the crime charged in the impeachment and it's certainly a basis on which to vote for conviction if you believe that he willfully refused to defend us and the law enforcement officers fighting to save us and that he was delighted by the attack and that he saw it as a natural result of his call to stop the steel and that he continued to incite and targeted violence as the attack unfolded we respectfully submit you must vote to convict and disqualified so the events of january 6 can never happen again in this country. mr brother.
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dean mr president at a. mr president moments ago. house manager cicely. the senator was vote bright as both a parliamentarian the debate is not in order. that debate is not an order because this is not debate he said something. you have to. it's clearly a core i'm certain the cork will call the rule is baldwin. consent to suspend. your objection is.
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this is blocked. or i will watching now capitol hill watching the senate where the trial has been getting underway in the 2nd impeachment of former u.s. president donald trump we've been listening to closing arguments for the last hour or so and now. there's been an interruption on a point of order i think an objection let's go over to alan fischer he's watching this watching this in washington d.c.
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so allan what happened there. there's obviously something that david to celine has said about mike lee who is a republican senator from utah if you look at the screen to the right of the speaker's chair there is that's where don't trust him or been sitting and might cleave who is the senator from utah is the new speaking to me at the moment because he has raised an objection saying that david salinas said something that isn't true i think this is going back to the phone call that came into the chamber that went to mike leigh's phone call when donald trump was trying to get in touch with tommy tuberville who is the new senator from alabama this is very domestic u.s. politics but essentially. mike lee has been quoted as saying something that he says he did not see or did not do david cicilline is entering into the record might lead is trying to overturn the reality is that there shouldn't be an interruption
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because you get 2 hours to present your closing arguments then trying to team do as well but mike lee has used parliamentary process here essentially to say hold on a 2nd we need to stop and discuss this which is exactly what a quorum call is so there are no taking a minute or 2 to work what has gone on here and how they can possibly resolve the problem that's all a quorum call is it's interesting because we thought we were moving this slowly to the stage where there will be fought. but that be yet be a little while away although i suspect what will happen is very soon the democratic house managers will make one more small presentation they will hand over to donald trump's team and the final word will go to the process. and then they will call for the vote so we could be or at the time is it no quarter to 2 here in the u.s. so we're probably looking at the result somewhere between i would suspect 5 o'clock
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and 6 o'clock this evening so in another 4 hour something like that and just to recap i think we we can ask this question to march and the thing that we've seen so far change is the assumption that the former u.s. president will be acquitted. i don't think there's anything the suggesting that certainly looking at social media people are very angry with the democratic leadership. of course because a few hours ago we had the democrats who had been debating over night whether to call witnesses actually said we want to call witnesses the chamber voted $55.00 to $45.00 they agreed they would we went into what was then a quorum call and then. both sides sat down and said look the controversial comments made by a republican congresswoman should be entered into the record but there should be no
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witnesses and both sides agreed to that and many people on my timeline a very angry at the democrats for not calling witnesses for not bringing people forward they believe it would have strengthened their case i'm not entirely sure that the democrats either in the house of the senate believe that they would be able to flip enough for us to end up with the conviction of donald trump particularly as donald trump's lawyer was talking about subpoenaing and deposing hundreds of extra witnesses which he wouldn't have been allowed to do because even no i don't think you fully understands how things work in the senate but this was his plan i see mightly has moved across and there's no having a conversation from some distance with jamie raskin so it may well be that they are discussing some sort of solution to whatever problem mike lee has had and notice that a lot of people missed exactly what went on and that's the same on twitter we did see one of donald trump's lawyers standing up to me raise an objection you don't
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get to do that one at this stage in the proceedings and 2 in the senate so that that was annoyed moment and. the saw thing has been slightly odd today hasn't it i mean. it has laid down the road and all are expecting not at all it has been a roller coaster. while we started off thinking this is going to be wrapped up in a matter of hours and then the call for witnesses and then a u. turn on that island stay with us because we're going to come back to you in a moment and you stole the words right out of my mouth for the next point so thanks for that will come back to you in a moment let's take that point though which. raise there melanie sloan is an attorney and former federal prosecutor she joins us from washington d.c. mel the 1st of all there's a few things actually i want to go through with you 1st of all we saw earlier on the agreement did another u. turn today the remit to submit what jamie raskin called
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a statement by jamie hereabout into evidence rather than calling her as a witness that was the 2nd kind of surprise today 1st of all i wanted to ask you is there a statement in most court procedures you have to depose a witness in an official way in order to take a statement right. take us through some of the legal battles here what happened. church 1st of all legal rules don't apply in the senate so they can do whatever they want but in general in a in a criminal court proceeding. you would work frequently have a witness take the stand and then be subject to cross-examination here but there is an exception which is that when people will agree on the substance they can decide not to spend the time so that one side will put in a statement and the other side agrees that that is in fact what happened now in
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fact that benefits a little more of the president's side in this case the former president side president trump side because there's a lot more emotion can aid and it's much more moving for the audience and generally is more persuasive when you hear the person discussing what happens as so here the republicans were able to take a little something out of this and the president's lawyers by just agreeing that this took place on the other hand. they did not show to jay and to jamie had a bottle of jury the recess right one assumes they just took the reported the reported quotes from jamie parabolic both sides agreed that they're going to accept that as a fact without actually speaking to and submit that into evidence right right although you know in that statement she talks about how many times she said this in
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the past that she's been saying this for the past couple of weeks and that does give it additional credibility that it isn't something that she just came up with rock but i think that what really seems to have happened is everybody wants to move on and move quickly and having her deposed and under oath and then potentially having the president's lawyers call witnesses that was all going to take a lot more time and they didn't want to go there as the case. they didn't want to go there because the conclusion is preordained mitch mcconnell said he wasn't voting to convict and there are senators we're still waiting to see what they'll do there are 3 senators who are retiring pat toomey from pennsylvania richard burr from north carolina and rob portman of ohio so none of those senators have the same political considerations and others but still we are not anywhere near the number of votes that. that would be required to as i know was going off here
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whether we can expect the democrats to take some heat over the u.-turn on not calling witness and deciding in the end you know making the still not to call witnesses allen's already conestoga my funda there and said yes they are they they are all taking some heat why then is the question did the democrats change course on this one because they got the whole senate to agree to it to vote for it what happened was it is a surprising turn of events it may be that. well there may be an argument that they only ever got them to agree to one witness which was herrera and it's not clear to me whether they were going to agree to other witnesses as well but assuming that they had agreed to it it says it seems like you you know it certainly potential that president biden team weighed in the senate has said they're going to hold up nominations they would hold up other things that the president's legislative
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priorities if they had to get bogged down in this in the senate conviction the trial but by the same token the senate is out next week anyway so. and have room under for this and it seems like it's possible that mitch mcconnell has outmaneuvered the democrats on this it seems that the largest reason is that because the outcome is preordained everybody decided not to spend the time i think on twitter for example and his social media you're seeing a lot of outcry about that particularly because since so much of this is not in fact about the conviction given where we are with the republicans refusing to go along but showing the american people what happened eyewitnesses would be very persuasive to the american people and i'm listening to people live and discuss what happened that day and what they heard that would have been very impactful on the other hand there was also the problem of some of the witnesses who they might have wanted to call people again who worked for vice president pence the people who were
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in the in the room with with president trump that day because these people were not voluntarily coming forward and that i'm not suggesting sorry in avonlea i've got to jump in here because it looks like they got him back into session my apologies but there's this and then the story is to present these are from utah i withdraw my people the. people of withdrawn the. chair would advise everybody. we ever determine record is close as friends 47 describes the scope of those things not. and move to heavens as those reference and try out new avarice is not permitted in closing argument references to such new evidence will be stricken.
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if. the house managers have a floor if they wish to resume. house managers. mr president roger esteem senators good afternoon we are grateful for your kind attention this week as we engaged in a process formulated and put to paper by the founders in my home city of philadelphia which is getting its fair share of attention this week in 178-7230 4 years ago my colleague mr cicely me address the importance of the president's
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dereliction of duty i will focus on 3 specific aspects of this case which the defense have raced questions about 1st the defense suggests that this was just one speech and one speech cannot incite insurrection and the defense suggested because the attack was pre-planned by some insurrectionists donald trump is somehow not culpable both of these things are plainly not true nor are they what we allege so let's be clear we are not suggesting that donald trump's january 6th speech by itself incited the attack we have shown that his course of conduct leading up to and including that speech incited the attack the defense is correct that the insurrection was preplanned that supports our point we argued and the evidence overwhelmingly confirms that donald trump's conduct over many months
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incited his supporters to believe. one his big lie that the only way he could lose was if the election was rigged to that to ensure the election would not be stolen to prevent the fraud they had to stop the steel and 3 they had to fight to stop the steel or they would not have a country anymore. this conduct took time and it culminated in donald trump sending a save the day on december the 19th 18 days before the attack telling his base exactly when where and who to fight and while he was doing this he spent $50000000.00 from his legal defense fund to simultaneously broadcast his message to stop the steele over all major networks donald trump invited them he
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incited them then he directed them here are a few clips that will help bring that story to light. and you give a direct answer you will accept feel like i have to see you i have to see i have nothing to just say yes and this election will be the most rigged election in history this is going to be the greatest election disaster in history and the only way they can take this election away from us is if this is a rigged election when a women selects it's a rigged election see only way we're going to loose the you've committed to making sure that there's a nice little word for all of you want to get rid of the ballots and you'll have a very transpo have a very peaceful there won't be a truce for frankly there will be a continuation it's only well of it that's the only way we're going to lives is if there's. mischief. mischief and it have to be on a big scale so be careful but this will be one of the greatest fraudulent most
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fraudulent elections ever we're not going to let this election be taken away from a sense the only way they're going to win ah this is a fraud on the american public this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election frankly we did win this election and we were winning in all the key locations by a lot actually and then our numbers started miraculously getting whittled away in secret and this is a case where they're trying to steal an election trying to rig an election and we can't let that happen you can't let another person steal that election from you all over the country people are together in holding up signs stop this deal if we don't root out the fraud the tremendous and horrible fraud that's taken place in our 2020 election we don't have
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a country anymore we cannot allow a completely fraudulent election to stand we're going to fight like hell i'll tell you that if you don't fight to save your country with everything you have. you're not going to have a country left we will not and we will not break we will not yield we will never give in we will never give up we will never back down we will never ever surrender all of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen we will never give up we will never concede it doesn't happen you don't seem to have. any use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with we will stop the steel because you'll never take back our country with weakness you have to show strength and you have to be strong make don't mistake this election was stolen from you from
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me from the country and we fight we fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore. our point is this this was not one speech this was a deliberate purposeful effort by donald trump over many months that resulted in the well organized mobs attack on january the 6th that brings me to my 2nd point the violence defense council argues that there is no way that donald trump could have known what would happen yet we are not suggesting nor is it necessary for us to prove that donald trump knew every detail of what would unfold on january the 6th or even how horrible and deadly the attack would become but he did now as he looked out on that sea of thousands in front of him some wearing body armor and helmets others carrying weapons that the result would be violence the evidence
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is overwhelming the evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates this. a few points on this donald trump knew the people he was inciting leading up to january the 6th he saw the violence they were capable of he had a pattern and practice of praising and encouraging supporters of violence never condemning it it is not a coincidence that those same people the proud boys the organizer of the trump caravan the supporters and speakers at the 2nd 1000000 magen march all showed up on january the 6th and donald trump's behavior was different this was not just in a comment by an official or a politician fighting for a cause this was months of cultivating a base of people who were violent.
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