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and that allowed us that. their fertility of so finding those markets. cultivate has batted businesses and economies globally is no different on this will receive food parcels every month in addition to the salaries to help them push on and they know the job security depends on being able to export roses to more global markets how do we toss the al-jazeera concession zimbabwe. the headlines on al-jazeera former u.s. president donald trump has been acquitted in his 2nd impeachment trial 7 republican senators joined 50 democrats in a vote to convict him but that fell short of the 2 thirds majority needed house speaker nancy pelosi said the 43 republican senators who backed trump committed the most honorable act in the country's history but what we saw in that senate today
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was that cowardly group of republicans apparently have no options because they were afraid to defend their job respect the institution in which they served trump welcomed the verdict on repeated his claim it was the greatest witch hunt in the history of the country he also hinted at plans for his political future crowds are demonstrating against me in mars' military rulers for a 9th consecutive day the generals are granting themselves new powers to monitor search and detain people involved in protests 3 people have died from a bowl in guinea at least 11000 people died during the epidemic in west africa that last that between 20132016 the virus has also seen a resurgence in the democratic republic of congo. rebels have attacked security forces in the democratic republic of congo's 2nd largest city there's been heavy gunfire at a military base in the city of lubumbashi the military says separatist fighters
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stole weapons after storming both a military base and their presidential guard units at least 9 people have reportedly been killed possibly it was holding parliamentary elections in the outcome could affect relations with serbia and the rest the europe and anti establishment party is likely to win the most seats but its leader has ruled out any talks with serbia a country kossovo broke away from after a year long war in the late 1990 s. serbia backed by russia doesn't recognize costs of those independence and this has prevented kossovo from joining international agencies and the e.u. . new zealand's largest city is going into a 3 day lockdown after 3 people tested positive for cope with 19 essential services will remain open in auckland but other businesses and schools will close new zealand fewer than 2000 cases since the start of the pandemic those are the headlines on al-jazeera inside story is coming up next.
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a storm of anger and defiance tens of thousands of people in the mall have been protesting against the military coup so how big of a challenge all the protests to the military leave you. will the generals go with their crackdown this is inside. that welcome to the program. protesters in me and i have faced arrests curfews and some internet back azza several days now but despite those challenges that been
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going out in huge numbers to make their voices heard against this month's military coup tens of thousands protested on saturday demanding a return to civilian rule they're also calling for the release of deposed leader. who's on the house arrest. and school teachers are among groups have joined the marches and activists want a civil disobedience campaign to put pressure on the generals to give up power they're angry about a number of detentions of government critics during overnight raids police have been increasingly cracking down on logs gather. things which they say violate covert 19 restrictions the un has raised concern about violence and the use of live rounds against protesters and its top rights body has adopted a resolution calling on me and miles military to reinstate the government and exercise restraint with demonstrators the u.s. has imposed sanctions on the generals and some businesses linked to them but allies like russia and china have dismissed the outcry against the coup as interference in
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menards internal affairs to the international community i express my concern that any sanctions on the consideration should be carefully targeted against specific individuals who are credibly alleged to have violated people's rights leaders of the school are an appropriate focus of such actions your mind is undergoing complex extremely complex challenges and delegate transition we do not want to stall our new democratic transition in the country we therefore look forward to receiving the understanding of the prevailing situation in the country and contractors and men and cooperation from the international community you know i will continue to engage with the united nations towards lasting peace stability and sustainable development to the benefit of the people in the country china is not in favor of holding a special session by the human rights council what happened in myanmar is
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essentially internal affairs what is required now is for the international community on the basis of respecting myanmar sovereignty political independence and territorial integrity and national unity and help all the parties concerned engage in dialogue and reconciliation in accordance with the wishes and the interests of the myanmar people. we'll bring in our guests in just a moment the 1st 100 member falls from bangkok the anti coupe protest in the civil disobedience movement began very soon after that february 1st who and what's been interesting about how this is bread across the country and right across myanmar is the groups that have involve themselves in this protest you have different trade unions the aviation workers medical workers teachers and then student unions they've been able to mobilize their people their groups to get out onto the streets and really ramp up those numbers very very quickly now obviously social media has
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played a role in this and internet connectivity has also because in previous uprisings in myanmar those didn't exist yet so obviously the military maybe has been pushed to their back because of just how quickly and how well these groups have been able to organize themselves and there's been major disruption because civil servants have also joined so a lot of the government workings have really screeched to a halt so the military who's now running the country is obviously having to grapple with that also what's interesting about the protest movement and this goes to generation z. who's really kind of leading a lot of these protests is that they are being very creative and in the location and how they're protesting and that is because they know that the international community needs to play a big role 'd for them to get what they want and that is for their leaders to be released and reinstalled so what they have done is they've protested in front of the embassies in yangon the british embassy the u.s. embassy the japanese embassy and the chinese embassy as well as the united nations office so that's been a very pinpointed focus for them and
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a very sophisticated move by them and that obviously is putting the military on their back foot as well politically but what's interesting within that context you have china and china has stayed with their longtime ally in the m.r. they have a very tight relationship in previous uprisings and previous military dictatorship so china has stayed next to its ally so that is going to be something of a challenge when we move forward with the international community community and how they react to the coup and what they can do against the myanmar government scott either for inside story. it's time now to bring in our guests in yangon we have men who executive director of the institute for peace and security in bangkok we have so long a human rights activist who was involved in the 988 peoples uprising in the law and then kuala lumpur richard welsh an honorary research associate at the university of north asia research institute in malaysia very well welcome to you all i'd like to
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believe begin with you so if i may how concerned are you about what we're seeing right now in me in ma in terms of human rights violations. i have from what i see what is happening in the country the people are very organized and then he has been involved in the pili protest everywhere in the country but my concerns are that the security crew will youth more for this against the protests that we have seen what has happened in naypyidaw that the and peaceful protests that were gunned down by the security forces the think may have been more because we have a track record of the military and the security for this youth excessive force in the q. . and a civilians in the past we have seen that many almost immediately ruined the
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country because of their or their often feel in fear that an amphibian. then so do you agree with that sentiment how concerned are you about human rights violations happening right now and how much of a challenge do you think these protests are to the military rulers compared to what we experienced in 98. there was the response from the government and also the resistance are strong the general public become more sophisticated so in $98.00 when the military start start cracking down on the protests. it all of the country did open fire they use light will let's and this time military was very restrained so we saw some use of force in some isolated cases such as like in the $80.00 and the one or one protester was shot by the area. except from that incident that no
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life but let's we are are used and we also saw like it only about 3 to 4 'd where police use water cannon on a young girl it has been about 4 days authorities removed police presence from the streets so that was quite sophisticated restaurants we did not anticipate so we all thought that with military would deploy the army troops and use at least rubber bullets not to let people come into the street but it did not happen yet. of us but this to bridget welsh how much of a challenge do you think these protests are to the military are they just going to continue to be heavy handed and they going to increase the severity of their tactics how do you see this playing out. well i think that we can see that the protests have been tremendous in terms of their spread across the country and the
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scope of participation and i think these are going to be very difficult for the military to control one of the reasons why they have not use force as has been scaf just now is because this year scope of resistance that is happening from the b.m.r. people and i think that right now the protesters are focusing their attention on the international community in terms of asking for assistance hoping that there can be some sort of political resolution to this crisis but i think we're also seeing that nature of opposition transform in myanmar the level of sophistication is also among the protesters in terms of how their capacity their messages how they're connecting the type of tactics that they're using so i think this is going to be something for the long haul and i don't know i just kind of i just want to pick up on something you said you talked about you know focusing their efforts on getting the attention of the international community do you think there is a path that international diplomacy to bring about earlier elections or for
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reinstating on science and she's party to power i mean are there any divisions within the minute tree which might be a sort of cracking point. i think they're clearly at a temp. rolled the international community can play to promote dialogue within myanmar how also to engage with the military in terms of rick suggesting and in telling them that the situation is very different than the past the military is still living very much in an arena where of the past they don't recognize that the international community is very different now and i think that there are steps that can be taken on multiple levels but the international response can't just be at the political level it wholesale has to be broader in terms of engagement with the protesters and with the the struggles within myanmar itself i think if it's just at the top it's not going to be effective so along we heard there the mention about you know previous clashes previous uprisings where people were very angry with
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military rule i know you were involved in 988 there were more street clashes in 2007 when people stood up to military role how are things different. oh it's very much different from what we have experience in 188 in what is essentially now in our country because now the people the protests more tech savvy in the in the very innovative we did we put tennis you know there is that misty a line. that people of the protest on line in the next in according do to the openness. invite in that country for the past 10 years so they have engaged in the regional forensic audit so the menace to. utilize the. code that we have seen that many innovative ideas in the book that.
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recently in the city we have to also know that. rounding up of the. basically believe in the news is happening in the the remote areas of the mall or region in the state happening every night even in young goes you know these things are happening so that that that the people in the city are very much aware about this and then they even. find. out you and take out. the book as. we have seen this evidence in the videos. in the end or in the. small states like sensing where it come from you know it's not. young or mentally
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ill 50 that we are very much concerned about the demo 3. who are involved in the group and indeed be around it when we talk about you know the use of technology and internet and protest movements but it happens all around the world and we have generations of people now in the in the twenty's and thirty's who have never known a world really without the use of the internet but obviously we have seen the military generals take aim at that some internet blackouts and now a proposed new cyber security law means all can you explain this new cyber security law to us what it means and how it's likely to be used. if this law was initially prepared by the previous government or the end of the lead government but i was told that the new authorities treat some of the measures that will make it difficult for the i.s.p.
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and also allow the government to crack down on those people who are using internet technology to support in thai government protests but however. the young people are still quite resigned lence that like they can pretty much. the advice of the government attempt to block the internet especially the social media how the government actually tried to say initially blocked the internet and they realized that the officers rely on the internet on their command they control for the reason they recruit in it but they've tried to block the social media but the young people are very good at facilitating live in gated it and actually even like of the use very sophisticated that locution such just like a bigger monitor protests all. for all the country on the google map it's like a near tie almost like a life prison titian and they even know which group is leading to which direction
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and what color so close they are wearing and so on and also the have all the nice and largest security team and so i think that kind of kept them on the technology. of the restrictions and also attempt to evade the restrictions were continuing to fall coming months this is why we can't assess bridget welsh i see that the military is planning on releasing some $23000.00 prisoners why is it doing that is that an attempt to gonna some goodwill or is this a cleric of the prisons well i think the concern is is that it is a clearing of the prisons to put the other people in and then as has been discussed the night raids that are happening are very worrying and are happening all across the country as they pick up people not only people who are part of the protests but also election officials that were connected to the to the november 8th election so
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i think there is this sense. of kind of worrying cloud over myanmar because of this particular decision but the same time you can also see that the military is trying to win allies both internationally and at home you can see that it's using divide and rule tactics with its and with the ethnic minorities reaching out with having alliances with certain parties it's also trying to offer different positions to different people through patronage and of course also to win support among some of the people they think will come to it even some of these prisoners that they've left out so i think that this is part of their tactics that they are adopting. i want to ask how we think that the detentions the arrests the human rights violations might impact the men tim if at all of the protests soiling what do you think. i think that the.
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momentum of the protests will not die down in these arrests in intimidation by the. authorities but i would also like to stress that the fact that this was the coup de la which is the going to impose very very soon is the biggest threat. that people will not be able to use the internet in securely because people share information each other will be on the internet and also monitor the rise violations peace process on the ground in you know to study a new technology or economy etc but these things will go away when this government is started using these laws and then the we've heard that that they have. more distance from china that is pulling this world that
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i was so that they could monitor and then i'd be asking sally of the orders or instructions to the whole fleet is doing this follow these interests instructive so this is very important and people will not be able to practice their freedom of expression and then moreover they will be very risky when the share their information in the government is monitoring them all the time window or before we get on to what the u.n. is doing or not doing can you just explain to our viewers who are the allies or at least who is supporting or wants to support the military in the end. well if the china or russia usually stick to the would have or in the government decide with it so either the military or the civilian government so they claim a certain tone or fess. the military even been tried to reach out their current.
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generals and also try to seek some help from the potentia allies at this point i don't think the military have many allies in the international community so people are still watching where the military can hold on to the power so at this point the military for the reason they know that this is at the chase so they have focusing more on the consolidating their power this is one of the reason they don't even care to crack down on this protest and now it's become more like a festivals in many major cities where you talk about consolidating power while other signs are there within me and my beyond what we're seeing on the streets that the generals are in this for the long haul i'm talking you know the stacking of the courts or political appointments of people in positions of power are we seeing signs like that that was what do you mean we do see the fossil like. yes 1st of all
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i can if you don't know even though they are a lot of internet sensation about this civil disobedience new fence and some of the ministries officially and some of the ministry even approving projects you know we call it like it a lot of businesses are now flocking into needy door and try to get their projects approved by the new authorities and so desa signed like a bit of the. authorities are also become super liberal like it trying to. reward business communities so they like to to prove that they could do a better job so this is a sign like how the military is trying to consolidate its power because the new pos be much isolated from the rest of the countries and because through pretty much most of the ministries over there present welsh coming to the to the united nations
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at a un session on me and ma day the un deputy rights chief said the world is watching me and not is the world watching and doesn't care. i think the world is watching i think that their protests have cast taken the international imagination i think people have seen the bravery of people come out to the streets and i think that there is just attention on this country and in part because of the the history that it's had in terms of the long decades against military rule and of course that the transition that began in 2010 extent was the election in 2015 captured the international imagination and then of course there was the horrific events of 2017 that of the or the genocide against the river which has also brought attention to me amar i mean more formidable well the international community actually acts the u.n. has put out a statement but you know it's got china and russia there the u.s.
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is said it's going to put out targeted sanctions on specific military generals and their families but it doesn't want to to negatively impact the people of me in law does it with with wide ranging sanctions so what will can the international community actually do. well i think there is discussion happening in international community what the different options are the united states has begun with targeted sanctions they've been very modest in scope but i think they're also talking to their allies in order to actually get more cooperation and so i think this conversation is extending and i think in the context of us and countries the dialogue with the government has started and they're hoping to have a c.m. meeting to discuss with the military coup government what's happening and try to put pressure in particular us and countries are concerned about a potential refugee crisis that may emerge from the situation inside myanmar so i think there are in a sense a series of dialogues that have begun and
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a series of actions but you're right there are very limited tools at the international community disposal i think crucial in this conversation is what china does and well i think it is clear that at the un china has stood by me m.r. and the concerns for human rights they've also helped to tighten the circumstances against the people in myanmar with working with this coup government but you also see a situation where there are many chinas and i think that meant china also is in a situation now where the international community is watching it very carefully it's not the same as it was before and so i think we're going to see more intervention ok and what pressure on china we're coming to the end of the program i'd like to finish with you so on if i may what are your hopes for how this all plays out. well i hope that the movement in the country with the poor of the people. ethnic community the educate the student
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workers you know cater. to and be combined with the critical and very very precisely the internet's enough support when we talk about the internet in the role that the internet you know community get out with the good that sense in that that you have this talking about and other countries you know the new zealand prime minister i didn't see although through principle of what real world leader is suspend the releasing. ok i've long seen many countries have thought that kind of. you know even 'd saying that they don't recognize the military in the country so strong action from world leaders we will have to leave it there for a time i really appreciate all you can for coming on the program thank you i guess mins or so on and to predict well. and they cater for watching you can see the
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