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the absurd and that gives you an idea of the kinds of things that are being said about the police action taken against climate activists. and of which money can always catch up any time on our website and it just fact is out there a dot com and you can also watch a spy clicking on the orange glow of icon. dot com. from london now the top stories on our syria security forces and main man have opened fire on protesters in the city of mandalay it's part of a wider crackdown on the 10s of thousands of people who demonstrated against the military coup soldiers and police and sling shots at protesters and beat them with sticks outside a bank in the country's 2nd largest city the scale of demonstrations has grown in the 2 weeks since the military took power and held civilian leaders including
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unsung suchi. the global effort to vaccinate people in less developed countries has received a huge boost the world health organization has approved the use of the astra zeneca vaccine as part of the kovacs program the program is largely reliant on hundreds of millions of orders of the british developed job it's hoped the roll out to nations which are unable to make sufficient orders to cover their populations can now be accelerated. the countries that currently have no access to vaccines whatsoever can start vaccinating their health workers and most at risk groups essentially kovacs is a project that is designs to provide equitable access to vaccines for. middle income countries the fear was with the whole covert 19 epidemic or
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pandemic is that it would be the richest countries that would buy up all the vaccines hoover them all up and they wouldn't really be enough left to go around iraqi media is reporting a series of explosions near to the airport in the northern city of bill. 3 blasts were heard with smoke seen at the airport perimeter one local t.v. network says mortar rounds with a course turkey has accused the u.s. of siding with kurdish separatists a group it calls terrorists comes after 13 turks were executed in northern iraq an attack turkey blames on kurdish fighters they call his turkish counterpart the u.s. secretary of state said the kurdistan workers party or p.k. k. was responsible for. those the top stories just a with a sound the stream is up next hour back with more news after that.
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i am ok on this episode of the stream we are going to be joined by natasha shit clerk british writer and author of a brand new book called drown a baby a memoir of race family and home and i guess it's a great to have you on the street and how. i am good thank you how you very well you know that i was seeing you talk about your memoir along very significant section media platforms that you were excited and your actions what was making you actions before it's day good you can i felt your was pointing and nails before
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it came out. yeah a bunch of things are a given army fiction writer it's so hard to know. how things are going to be received but also i'm writing who is pursuing self on the page as much as i can and you know i really like to bleed on the page but with fiction you can always hide the fact that it's fiction and with a memoir you can't really hide and so i'm dealing with some really really basic things i'm doing recently retreat for and the hard things to deal with and want to give the book comes out it doesn't belong to any more is to readers and. no going that skin them out and people are going to talk about it they're going to talk about you they can talk about your life and they're going to project things onto it that. you might not necessarily see and that's that it's quite
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overwhelming to do with you know no not the most like extroverted person in the world are just sort of say here my little and do my thing you know very like. yeah so if it's out in. middle earth in cincinnati is unleashed in and now you're getting the feedback so it feels the publishing day like february 2021 so it's out right now so we are in a global pandemic we are post prexy. in a time when anteater anti-racism movement he's as is almost like reinvigorated it's got this new life into it and your memoir is sleep but somehow it dresses all of these all of these moments that were in my you know now still very present to me how does it feel to you that this time it kind of. jagged god.
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but i guess so much of what's in a very evergreen right. because owning it as a letter to my daughters about the way the world isn't and so much of the novel is a memoir is the in the round house find joy in times of difficulty when the world feels so bleak and i feel so sad and angry about it and all those things i'm talking about whether it's racism whether it is the patriarchy whether is climate catastrophe or mental health all great for any of these things it's just seemed to be it ever agree you know we're only a couple pandemic where we're thinking about ways where as in which we can change the way we live and. is ultimately very how hopeful burke and. you know there are lots of people with that and he weighs in with racism reading lists next to their bedside which i hope they're getting through those books be nice for people to hurry up and finish his books and join the antithesis of
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movements and. and also yes none of these things feel prescient for me because i feel quite evergreen in a way. i am not going to be the only person who will be asking questions in chatting back and forth but let me catch we have a new chief streaming right now people can jump into the comments section and ask when ever you want. and we're going to start the questions were a writer who knows you can't deny his lack yes these questions have a nice. the fall the river of reversal who've become my go to for the really less is always to enjoy and most to bluff but you show this remind me of so much of being a who joins you for school daily barbs and jokes about skin color curry and how
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difficult it was to traverse the species you can take your home because trying to have your own problems focus is very hard you know to feel in this life in your friendship groups and publishing who you diversity to so i guess my question is when you write about family because sometimes the feeling of being over there also so do you expect to fall out there how do you deal with right to your life on the page now as a hold of what is a right. part air for master what amazing writer here is thank you a fun. one of one of the things that i. said to be able my family by many copies of this book but do not read this book. mostly because it said very little or about my grief or my mom and my mom's passing i don't think i'd say i say anything in there that i wouldn't say to anyone's face who haven't said over the air. but it is very broad when it's. like this
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and sorry dad there will be things in there that lead to the make public but the thing about writing in this space is you have to write your truth you have to write from an emotional truth that is war memoir is and so much of that emotional truth gets wrapped up in perspective and what your perspective is at the time that you are experiencing the thing let you know are narrating years later and i've tried to be as truthful to that perspective as i can. as a listener and to their fun. only and just a little thing in a p.g. . so sony is going to. well as a 2nd thing i as a as i as a sheriff each of you have you in your family that was about 20 years ago. it was a 2nd. fun. 5 foot question i got so. confused here he would have let me give
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a couple of things that i was thinking about that you shared about your fan. i'm always as as an immigrant family growing up in the u.k. there were some very distinctive gender roles and mom did some certain things your dad did certain things and not have an impact on the news you grow up and and you lost your mom from cancer and then your dad was the businessman but he wasn't just legal in terms of bedtime stories giving you candles or that sort of thing how does that impact you as a young man and then as an older man writing about it. yeah. i think i think i just didn't understand my dad when i was when i was younger i didn't understand that came from was from a position of vulnerability was
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a stoicism but it was a position of vulnerability and actually my dad since my mom has passed his kind of he's very in touch with his feelings that he is constantly talking. and is constantly thinking about his place in the world and i really love that about him or not i don't but you know that the relationship i have with him now for anything in and sure it was a big story it would have been nice to have had that as a teenager. but you know that's just not the way the world war was and so you know . i can't go back and change things i think what what i wanted to do in this book is. create a space for men for fathers for men of color. to show their vulnerable side to be vulnerable to be soft to be fallible to make mistakes to learn to listen to step back when we need it and you know because you know i'm far from
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faith none of us are perfect and i think often some you need someone to sort of start need someone to kind of create space for other people to kind of congregate around so i really hope that it makes more men think about their place in the world and also allowing their vulnerable realty to be more visible and good plain you some thoughts from a friend of the strange and also a writer as well and she wants to ask you this i really enjoyed the book i loved. the quality of the rising and i love all the food mentions and the way food plays into our emotions and our families and our memories and my question is really about how to preserve joy i mean in the depth of grief and also just as
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a parent how you managed to kind of raise your girls with joy and also infuse your writing with joy even when things are difficult. i love may from a country it is the good of green usa which was a real treat for us because she's such an amazing writer. and yet the main thing that's running through the book is how to. thinking about joy i think about boundlessness thinking about making sure the world feels limitless and expensive but at the same time my my kids are realistic about what to expect and you know there is a very hard thing to do. i have found that being present whether it is in or with my kids or in the writing is the thing that's really helping me to find joy and also like not projecting my cynicism or my jadedness onto my children but instead being present in how they see the world and trying to explain the world as
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they see a rather than explaining the world to them as a world where a person in their forty's my expectancy has been a really really big learning lesson for me because it's so easy to just of all too well the world is this way because. they give you an example of this my daughter wanted to know about the bristol bus boycott which was a big civil rights event in bristol where we live in the sixty's and. explained it was explained to her i realized that tell how replaces him was which is a strange thing to have to explain and so when i explained to her what racism was her reaction was that stupid that doesn't make any sense to me and i majorly was what maybe people might be racist because and i had to stop myself and her hold on a minute you're being intellectually dishonest with her by trying to justify why someone might be racist in order to illustrate why racism exists actually we're in need to
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do is talk with our level and yes racism is incredibly stupid it's incredibly pathetic thing and that really knows a really big lesson yes and it hasn't that doesn't there's a little bit of heat in you but there's actually a law in europe that we need to talk about brownness and skiing and i wouldn't chevys with woody incident and this is where he took about trams can show a little clip for everybody all a little accent is a consistent thing he said throughout my entire childhood was that you didn't want the taliban you're talking about you know girl she doesn't let a colored man is too dark another time he told me it was dirty mrs he told me he wished i was white. then i will be white he said why i have a plight i want to be like money he said before disappearing into another room as if that was that there was nothing more to say your kid's a chore heritage and this is something that you wrestle with throughout the book i
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have to know nephews and the irish welsh and 9 tyrian and those are my own mother nettie came back from nursery one day and he has the most magnificent epic afro and he said i don't like my hands and in the whole family did about 23 years of campaigning about how cool it was to have a big afro but nobody else had one and i felt that at a really don't age little kids growing up in the west where paps and not surrounded by brown and black people or of the time they are getting these concepts super early how does a 4 year old say she doesn't like to be brown how did you how did you how did you unpack that. i wish i knew i wish i knew where that came from because those things being internalized for so early on it really threw me because
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it had nothing that was happening in our home that would pointed towards that and it kind of you know once you kids are out of the world once again to you know daycare one nursery once they are mixing with other kids or like hearing how other people's parents talk and how that impacts on other children around the that they're absorbing so much information they're absorbing information at such an exponential rate that you know maybe our kids grow up as 10th she were very. what would be traditionally ways clothes because they were hand me downs from cousins because you know kids grow them fast but they as soon as they went to nursery they decided that they didn't want to wear those clothes because they were boys. and yet before going to nursery they hadn't made that distinction at all and that was the same with brownness and that's why that's why i'm so
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adamant. that. we talk about representation and why representation matters in a tennis everything the representation is like present ation in. the law or read in books is the end goal i don't know the can necessarily makes the world a better place but i do think that having a diverse representation in kit. in. your kids' t.v. shows the stuff that kids are absorbing from a very early age if that is that brown kids and kids with disabilities visible disabilities and kids with you know non-visible disabilities kids in nontraditional families. and as the main characters of those stories like their stories assented then that sends a message not just to my kids but to everyone i often think. you know
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white middle class white men in the u.k. are probably the ones who need representation amazed because able to suspend their disbelief enough for a world where ghosts need busting but they wouldn't suspend their disbelief enough in the thought for women combust ghosts when that. when ghostbusters came out and they took all of their ire out on leslie jones and for me that just tells you. who needs this diverse representation and what age they need as well and you know so my daughter isn't internalizing these things from before she's even gone to school. there is something that i love about what guilty doing with your with your little one shot at a picture from your instagram feed of the little girls in that new research like how will i be the best i can be and so we go through your research as the good man projects i'm going to share it here $25000.00 for dad's raising tool to say he went through this this is
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a list of 25 things and he shared them in your memoir and then you came up with an old tennessee law are also sure this is a great you came up with an alternative but it's also in your memoir which she read as a girl back right the data to get us a very special kind of guy. out new advice for parents actually has to take it down here sure just to kind of give you a caviar you know i this is a chapter where i'm kind of exploring what it is to be a dad raising daughters and the things i should be thinking about and. and i do a lot of reading about how. the dad should be raising daughters and while i wore a curtain it was actually the listening to tell me more about how we should be raising boys than how it should be raising girls and so a kind of. so i thought how should how should i be how should one be.
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the more i think about it i'm left increasingly with my version of this list don't shame your daughter for the way she dresses acts or the body she has and tell us she is perfect just the way she is and beautiful and smart and funny and everything else she is razor in love no shame about the way she looks or vehicles and pin and you know being a girl. it's area. you you shan't your little ones with us not directly but you you kind of share the thinking that stories on the show simply because it's really beautiful . and they are shaping you to become i'm going to say feminist ally there were things that you didn't realize about women that women had to do and handle that you now get because you've got little girls and there's a moment and i love this a family situation and you cool people in the family situation vivian's because
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why what was going on but me realize our base is what it means to be a little girl tell us the story. yes so it was it was mostly around. cuddles and 2 people demanding cuddles of my daughter and her not wanting to cut back and the male in the situation use some language that basically. it sounded very aggressive missile gestate and in that moment i was a chorus see how i see how language like casual language can be so sexist and so abusive towards women and and make them feel a certain way about their bodies and. i write about this quite honestly in the book i texted to my friends to my female friends as are all my god guys i get it i get it now i get we've been saying i've just witnessed this thing and they were like
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yeah well done. you know the tree is like you me and. the reason i put it in the book is because regardless of what social issue we believe in you know for white people who want to get involved in and us and work for men who want to be a feminist ally for those of us who are heteronormativity want to stand up for. a plus community. for those of us who are middle class we want to ensure that we're not taking up space of working class people for all of us you know and there are there are points in those conversations where we will hang back because. we don't get something wrong and not actually we should or should prong and be ok with being uncomfortable and i was in constant uncomfortable with my friends basically making fun of me for demanding or demanding the proverbial cookie for them. but
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having it in the burka kind of show that it's ok guys we're going to be fine tonight you know yes there is a degree to which i understand all this stuff much more i like protesting probably because i'm seeing in real time. it's why i do with. what is now that i've witnessed it that matters that counts. the catch a cut of here from short c 100 on you choose a short see says i've never believed racism is natural in any way we are conditioned to these things and tools them and these to booze and phobias handed down from our eldest so he's just adding on to what you were saying about the no brown skin and brownness and how you how you've talked to your youngsters about that i also want to bring in a comment from robin hahn who's a call to needs and she experienced racism growing up and i'm wondering how you
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protect your children from it is running by move through america 14 without really speaking english so the 1st time i felt like i was a whore are well as the 1st day of my school in america there wasn't any e.s.l. classes so i was basically and we're all in the regular classes with no help and has a language i followed her and nor and very insecure or there are definitely sockets who blame me because i didn't speak in english and also i did not vote white american but fortunately i was able to make some friends by going to. art classes at a local comic book shop how did you handle racism as
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a youngster people coolers you names people call me names going up in the u.k. and and and that was just part of every day like how do you protect kids from. i don't know if handled it the best way when i was growing up there wasn't really. there wasn't really a blueprint there wasn't really like an instruction manual for how to handle a lot of it especially when i grew up in the school i went in the environment i was in and how my parents internalize that was to basic needs. just so he had an encounter there are better than these people you have to be after previously better than them and the thing that i'm really trying with my kids is instead of centering on how they should be about white people or centering how they should be about around the default i want to center how they should pay you know
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that for me that's much more important and knowing that they can talk to me about all of these things and you know making sure that they are aware of what the world is but also they feel like they could be anyone that they could be anything and if they ever do experience this type of i mean like. a source on in the comments as referred to me as a race are slow thanks guys examine to be talking about is racism imagine imagine building a career because we really want to talk about racism and not because it's really mattered to life so much they feel compelled to a much will be writing comedy fiction my friend far from being a race us a but the point is here i've got a bank of work that my kids can read oh watch and feel like they're not alone which is why i felt growing up. shipley's been really great to continue for the past 25 minutes have a look here on my laptop brown babies
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a memoir of race family and home and he's also in a company called i just want you to hear the theme music and listen to this can you sing a song with the words brown baby in there. you need to go out on your cheek and. she. irresistible in the cash thanks for joining us on the street i see next time and see what you look. frank assessments the world is on the brink of
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now all jews are. with every. other unearned trailer in london the top stories are now jazeera united nations has denounced an internet shutdown in myanmar the 2nd in as many days a curfew has also been imposed that following another day of protests against the military coup security forces in may and march open file on protesters in the city of mandalay part of a wider crackdown on tens of thousands of demonstrators soldiers and police aimed sling shots at protesters and beat them with sticks absent a bank in the country's 2nd largest.
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