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soldiers for hire private security firms are increasingly being used in conflicts around the weld someone accused of doing the work states don't want to do but is that accountability to make sure they're following international law. inside story . hello welcome to the program. addict prince the former had of private security firm blackwater whose forces killed 17 iraqi civilians in 2007 house long

faced accusations of profiteering from conflicts has now once again under scrutiny for his role in libya's conflict a confidential united nations report obtained by the new york times has found prince violated an alms embargo. impossible the report which says brain sent following message to raise and weapons to libyan war in 2019 the time huffed out was fighting to overthrow the internationally recognized government in tripoli breaching the arms embargo exposes branes has a staunch ally of former u.s. president donald trump to a possible u.n. sanctions the report raises many questions about the secretive weald of private security firms. private military contractors have grown into a global industry it's estimated to be worth more than $200000000000.00

a year defense experts say some of them are used by state leaders to deny involvement in conflicts for diplomatic or legal reasons a recent study said the pentagon spent more than half of its $370000000000.00 defense budget and contract in services in 2019 he also revealed that america hired 53000 contractors in the middle east compared to just 35000 of his own soldiers some mercenary armies like the wagner group have been accused of being proxies for russia the group has reportedly been active in libya ukraine and belarus the russian government denies any link to wagoner. i measuring in our guess in boston glenn carr former deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats of the cia here in doha on what are sure professor of statistics studies of the doha institute in london and dress critic

assistant professor at king's college london and author of commercializing cosmopolitan security welcome to your. glenn this is the work of investigators that was presented to the united nations security council about erik prince the man who has not been gaited through the shadowy well the military contracting has been involved in many parts of the world and it says the basically this is someone who was sending weapons messenger is providing significant assistance to a warlord general who was trying to end them undermine an internationally recognized government what repercussions are we likely to see here after this particular report well now that the administration in the united states has changed there may be some when trump was you know office or as chris was a a an advisor to answer order our guard and in turn

received support congress encourage him and so on by car with biden in office and a more log returning to the united states government the situation may change but then. a certain person or is exists among a shadow world where our. governments choose more. obligation to us. how much are we likely to see a consensus among members of the united nations security council that could lead to erik prince facing justice or possible sanctions. yes in this particular case is this possible but it's hard to predict how this will unfold with the with the d.m.c. specifically. it there's a complication of being. registered as a company that provides military service and have an actual contracts. with the

pentagon that was the case in iraq and that's on one end but on the other and using these resources and logistics and to violate a u.n. then u.n. impossible on particular militias indeed. and these militias are attacking the u.n. backed government and basically acting in a spoiler of the un backed an international community backed. peace process in libya so there are multiple dimensions there that i think the legal experts will. will have a hand full with right under when you look at the report itself it talks about prince's involvement but there is a legal and political aspect of the story 200-1000 is when there was this massive unprecedented push by have to take over areas in the worst part of the libya including tripoli he was pushed back what we learned after that was series of

tragic events some of the executions of civilians opposition members buried in our mosques graves we're talking about serious allegations here and people are pretty much concerned that the united nations security council may not be able to say to. prince you would have to face justice for this particular incident. right but the problem with this you know i wrote about this in my last latest book surrogate warfare it's about warfare by delegation and i think libya is is such a very typical sorry good war of the 21st century where there is a variety of different patterns who sponsor a variety of different actors on the ground and you know the u.a.e. being the most important spoiler in this conflict in the u.a.e. being the most important pattern in this conflict over the last since 2014 the u.a.e. has been the most important actor externally financing bankrolling and delegating

warfare by a variety of different actors under the wider of the l n a and after so it's very difficult to really pinpoint out who is responsible for any of the of these specific atrocities that have been committed around tripoli in other parts of western libya in the in the latest operation that was started in 2019 by after the problem here isn't one of attribution the problem is one of of very specific attempts by the u.a.e. and its vast networks of sorry gets on the ground to kind of you know muddy the waters of attribution and kind of find a way to to conduct warfare through deniability and discretion so that means particular for the u.a.e. to say we're actually not involved we're not doing anything despite the fact that there are bankrolling and supporting individuals like erik prince who is providing very important kept capacity and capability for them in western libya glenn was talking about an operation where the prince was providing message there is weapons

sophisticated technology we're talking about an $80000000.00 operation that includes convincing digital players to support provide support a particular way of with with with with helicopters you are a former deputy national intelligence officer could this be just a work of a lone wolf or do you think you need to have key players here who would facilitate such things for you. oh i think the only thing this lone about eric prince is that he's a hostler but he's not alone in that regard. well he he was acting it seems pretty clear with the passage or even direct encouragement by the trumpet ministration i can't imagine that he would but i can imagine that he would try to make a buck by selling soldiers and weapons to whoever wanted to purchase them but in this instance the united states under converse and very conflicting messages of the formal institutions of government supporting the un backed. government in

libya and then transcending these confusing signals with the u.a.e. and their difference i'd like to make one other quick though i think typically what happens with mercenaries and black operations and so on that become public is that it's that embarrassing people have a go on their faces as the spotlight is turned to them and some of these operations through the people who have been revealed and outed and will be shut down but. consequent legal consequences are far more problematic because you have in the un process the backing or protection or murky behavior of the u.a.e. in this instance of russia and even when it was trumped in the office of don't count so i would suspect. that this behavior continues all right of activity

this is sort of the new model of surrogate warfare but prince in this instance will be shut down for a time and almost if we pull it off to put together elements of the libyan puzzle 2001 to house the backed by the united arab emirates egypt jordan and russia most have pushed to take over tripoli if a particular moment when donald trump. made a phone call to him widely seen at that particular moment as a signal that the americas are in favor of how we should they see as the boardwalk against the extremists in the region is it safe looking i guess that particular backdrop to say that it could be easier for prince to use all those key players to his own political advantage stood in the ok donald trump being in the white house has facilitated this environment of basically promoting

a warlord sensually hooper trade him self as a solution in the bia. and who was very beneficial politically to some of the regional players including the u.a.e. and some of the let's say military financial players embodied in the case of prince and his company. so that on one side but on the other side it was it to the detriment of also u.s. and perhaps other western interests one of the. of the. supposed. targeted. assassination was that act against. who is it mainly one of the main counterterrorism partners of the us and all the up there to be in against isis in the in tripoli so basically suppose the warlord who is was in alliance with the president of the us at that time was permitted all given a green light allegedly by the president of the us at the same time. last trying to

act as a spoiler using weapons given by a private private contractor. weapon and assistance military assistance to undermine and spoil a u.n. backed peace plan and assassinate some of the counterterrorism partners and got insurgency partners against isis on the other side it just it tells you that the u.s. is playing against itself it's going in a way ok all or part of that will white house lots of u.s. government were turning against other parts of the u.s. government and where and this is. going to get things even for the sure under the sort of adequacy is fascinating this is someone who was the the c.e.o. of blackwater that was forever tarnished after the incidents the shooting of civilians in iraq he then created another company z. it was rebranded after the same company went into massive international criticism

now and then back to another company academy you get a sense that the international community does not seem to be willing to enforce sanctions against iraq brings because perhaps he has very strong connections in the united states of america. yes and no i think we do we need to be very careful to kind of all tarnish the entire industry based on blackwater or based on the activities of someone like gary prince i think there's a we need to draw a very clear line between contracting which takes place in the security realm not in the military realm which is defensive in nature and the vast majority of all d.o.d. d.o.'s contracts u.k. m.l.g. contracts as well are taking place in a realm of private security companies they provide defensive security they don't take part in active in military combat operations the thing with eric prince and blackwater was they were on the absolute end other end of that spare they were pushing the envelope trying to get with their own contracting into the realm of of

military contracting becoming mercenaries becoming mercenaries the issue here is most terrorism is something that has been outlawed and but making a case as the gentleman colleague from the united states said making the case and also holding someone to count based on international law for most reason is highly highly difficult so erik prince was someone who has branded brant himself as one of the rebranded many of his companies it's not only one company has been rebranded after blackwater we shouldn't forget reflex limited which was a step or l. and c. which was established in the u.a.e. in 2010 which morphed into another entity then he had an entity to conduct and the piracy operation somalia in the 20020112012 again bankrolled by the u.a.e. the point here is it's not just backing from the united states or or foreign players the thing is he operates in a realm of when no one can control and there's a very important element here and after the operation and in in somalia he actually fell out with my bins out of the u.a.e. because he kind of you know took some of the money that was intended for other

operations there were some issues with finances he's not a trustworthy character and he's been he's been basically going behind the backs of all of his patrons all of his clients and that makes him entirely dangerous all right like think it should be should keep a clear warning for people to actually go into business with the. let's move forward to different angles of this particular story glenn the use of mass in eries you have any concerns that this could particularly in the near future shape. armed conflicts around the world private companies benefiting from massive financial support from key players internationally that could influence the outcome of conflicts in different parts of the work but typically in sub-saharan africa and in the middle east. well i know that it's in the car is the way you frame the issue and the question is sort of the temporary the. at this moment perspective that the international community and and followers are taking but i take

a bit of exception to it because that frames characterizes what's happening is somehow really different than what has happened before and i don't really see that as being the case except in one form the whales are the bugs of the 2nd mercenaries and surrogates have always been used and. the cia has done this to the russians telephone service has done this and both continue to do this as do other countries and this isn't the case since ancient times so that's not really new it provides a way for companies countries to claim that they're not involved they'll have control of oil and some consequences muddy the waters and make it more difficult to denounce a country or to prosecute the perpetrators so this has gone on and will continue to go on the change is that the international system that we all live in is has fallen apart or

a new one is being this emerging and in this contest where the great power conflicts are murkier or less clear the call of the station is not done. the conflicts lend themselves more to the secondary level kinds of activities that are easier to deny and harder to control so that is just a change in the system but not in the practice itself that has always existed almost when you have president full frontal trump paul doing full american men were convicted of the killing of iraq a few videos in 2007 and working full blackwater of a time when the international community thing they say about time to scrutinize some of those activities to. this is sending the wrong message to the international community to the advocates who are trying to put an end to this process. i don't think i just really completely with glenn it won't stop i mean you can you can challenge it legally you can convict some of the. of the persons who committed by

relations but it will it is very beneficial both for the states and for the g.m.c. for the private benefit contractors and for also for also militias that are in alliances with their would states it's it's convenient put it to clean there's not attribution element that is can conduct limit or warfare in a much better way the body count there's a lot of political responsibility put anybody conks because they are in a private country well if they're from the same nationality maybe but sometimes they're not from the same nationality. they are the case of hezbollah and iran and this is basically it and that's that's i know it's a different kids it's a logical dimension that but it's still a militia sponsored by a state. there's an economic benefits it's very clear in the case of the excellence but also that increase in something like the bagman group which which in its control there is basically made made significant they can keep the spoils of war in

any event the ancient way but also that i think the main difference and you are different from from what clinton said is they military and the combat effectiveness of some of these on month state actors whether they are pm seas or militias or or other kind of groups like like isis for example they have the they not only have change the character of or in a way but also they change the end results of some of the battles of the operation that there was conducted about this event in ways that i don't think was seen was seen before jim and i see your point i saw this in new deficit but this is the this is the concern that it let me go to under yes we're talking about. actors who are operating in countries of the outcome for they are doing is not only undermining the lives of civilians it is changing the narrative is is hijacking the right of the people to the point where it could leave behind

a permanent chaotic situation where the international community would have to grapple with i give you just a simple example so we're talking about prince we're going to grow up is been scrutinized criticized but because of the link with the russians everybody doesn't seem to be willing to move forward when and rest of. bush to put an end to the practice. what should the international community do about this particular case. very important to halliburton a group is part of the same nexus and that's something we need to highlight erik prince is not separate from back in a group we shouldn't you know don't forget the city shell meeting in in 2017 where erik prince a very instrumental bring in the russians the trump campaign and as well as the u.a.e. together and in libya we see this unpack unfolding and you're absolutely right there is a problem me a normative problem because in many ways that the liberal values have been undermined by using contracting and obviously outsourcing warfighting to to

to jews to mercenaries and we've given it the try ministration test and he has given approval to these sort of operations and it's a slippery slope that we're going down on. obviously a lot more has to be done but nobody seems to be interested as. rightly said nobody has an interest to do this because both sides winning back the group is obviously been stigmatized because they're russia but let's not forget erik prince is working with the russians in directly the and the russian operation was bankrolled by the u.a.e. this is part of the same nexus so i think when we hold to account the russians we need to hold the route hold to account erik prince and we have all the account the emirates as well glenn we've reached a point in history where just look of north africa and the middle east there is a conflict polarization to 2 key players backing members from opposing sides of the americas of the europeans ultimately we have to take sides and we don't seem to be really willing to tackle the problem of the key regional players

who have become part of the problem because they are providing significant financial military support to actors who are stabilizing the international order. well resulting yes that is true and that's not new we all remember from from callers who are those who are staying clear core theory have what's called a 1000000 dialogue from 2400 years ago from 2 cities that the strong do if they wish and the weak suffer what they must. this is too tragic a horrendous reality that international un body system normative system attempts to regulate and to stop but certain so long as countries pursuing their national interests quaid they will do with they can get away with based on their their strength so the weak countries such as libya. we can choose an almost

infinite number of other examples are the constant victims of the great power conflicts this was france turkey united states russia the 5th all tearing libya apart the fact though in the temples to advance their own interests this will all rights not change. all my under e.f.c.a. less than 40 seconds what is it that which we need now change of legislation a different approach for this particular issue on the 1st i don't think a change of legislation is either possible or anybody if it was possible it was affect things on the ground in. i would say in the near future many of the states have a vested interest in having either militias in alliance with them to do the job of that army so that it is less of costs. politically socially economically sometimes

even meet the. meeting on the ideological liberal or logical level and many of these militias are the contractors and those are also benefited from the situation so it's very difficult on that line it by a clause on you know international address that it's a fairly pessimistic as well but on the on the bright side though we have several going to regimes in western countries that kind of say what a private military and security company can and cannot do and most of these companies abide by it i think we need to draw a line between what is contracting and supplementing some of the rules to support while fighting but making sure that war fighting itself should be that and remains to progress even under full control of the of the state and should remain the monopoly of the state glenn call obama short andrius. as i thank you and thank you to for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook

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