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the way his shop closed and it's still empty because he didn't teach anyone we should teach this craft so it's passed on from generation to generation and won't die out but it's a dying tradition it's been neglected i tried to open a school for decades under gadhafi is government but nothing happened. this government has promised me it will help me open a school for traditional crafts like weaving it's allocated a space for us we can move into it and march as for me i hope our country becomes a better and this craft doesn't die i welcome anyone who wants to learn and i hope to teach at the school so the generations to come can enjoy making traditional crafts through leaving. your child is there with me sell robin a reminder of our top stories the united states has now recorded more than a half a 1000000 deaths and gave it 19 by far the highest toll in the world flags at half
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staff and president joe biden commemorated the victims with a bible to silence the people we lost were extraordinary they spanned generations born in america emigrated to america but just like that so many of them took their final breath alone in america as a nation we can accept such a cruel fate while we find in this pandemic for so long we have to resist becoming a nun to the sorrow. british prime minister boris johnson has laid out his plan to lift pandemic restrictions schools are due to reopen and to people from separate households will be allowed to meet outside starting march the 8th. police in georgia have stormed the offices of the opposition and detained its liter melia is demanding new elections after last year's disputed parliamentary poll. the united
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states and the european union have impose new sanctions talk to me about his military leaders and clubs as thousands of people continue to protest against the coup that forced out the civilian government here this month. the standoff between the australian government and facebook over the publication of news content looks to be settled the social media firm says it will restore australian news pages in the next few days. the u.s. space agency nasa has released the 1st pictures of its perseverance rover landing on the surface of balls it's the 1st time the mars like thing has been captured on video the rover has already sent back pictures from an surface and is expected to start exploring its new home by the end of the month and you can follow of course those stories and those pictures on our website at al-jazeera dot com as updated throughout the day more news in a half hour here on al-jazeera next it's counting the cost to stay with us. a place
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a great look for russia's longest serving leader also this week main stock to the rise and fall has little to do with the core business is a different kind of investor sending markets to new highs but wall street is challenged by this new generation we wonder will the democratization of the markets . and we'll take you to kenya as well where there are fears the country could become a dumping ground for plastic from the united states. so when kremlin critic alexei navalny return to russia in january brought the crowds out to protest against the russian leadership of course in valley was promptly arrested tried and jailed for 2 and a half years but if the protests are anything to go by russians have become extremely described told by president vladimir putin and the economic gloom the russian economy shrank more than 3 percent last year the biggest slump since 2009 back to is not as bad as many other countries but the underlying problem is that
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real incomes were falling well before the pandemic began in fact last year the average russian had less to spend than they did back in 2013 and then there is this russia a $1350000000.00 palace on the black sea now valmy released this video as he flew back to moscow and he claims the palace was built for president pollution it's $17691.00 square metres it's got 2 helicopter pads and. hockey rink a secret tunnel leading up to the sea of ali says it is the biggest residence in the whole of russia all of that would have been uncomfortable viewing for the kremlin though it did deny the property belonged to putin but it did raise many other questions ones that have been around for more than a decade as part of leaked diplomatic papers and investigations by western intelligence agencies in short how rich is russia's president well let's just start with his last financial disclosure that was 2018 putin said he had
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a salary of $8600000.00 rubles which is about 115000 dollars that is his official salary his military pension interest and investment gains but there was a claim back in 2007 from the russian political analyst stanislav ski that putin effectively controlled holdings in the energy companies gun for gazprom and so. they were worth about $40000000000.00 at the time for their part those companies deny putin holds any stock in them fast for another 5 years or 2012 and he told the bureau of investigative journalists that putin was now at $70000000000.00 and then in testimony before the us senate panel and to the russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election bill browder the chief executive of hermitage capital management said hey believe putin was worth $200000000000.00 brother was once the biggest investor in russia and his lawyer magnitsky died in a russian jail whilst investigating corruption and i'm very pleased to say he's
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with us this week on counting the cost from london bill nice to have you with us thanks for your time 'd great to be here 200000000000 without giving away the state secrets how did you get to that number. well i made that calculation and in a very broad brush way which was to say i thought the way that clinton operates is that he allows the oligarchs of russia to get rich as long as the oligarchs share 50 percent of their wealth with him and and so that's the simple calculation of at the time the always our next topic all of our wealth was $400000000000.00 and i assume half of it and since then and that was a while ago i think wealth is probably increase because you take the share of everything that comes in and and there's been a lot of stuff that's come in over the last 50 percent that that surprises me well what you have to understand is that. the oligarchy. that basically are functioning at his pleasure and so it's not like in
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a normal country where if you get rich you have a rule of law on your property rights and your money is yours in russia all these people got rich because of him and that they could all have their money taken away as again because or worse they could go to jail or they could be killed and and putin has made it very clear he back in 2003 he arrested the richest oligarchy in russia a man named mikhail arctic kosky he was the owner of an oil company because he put him on trial and he allow the television cameras to come into the courtroom and film the richest man in russia on trial sitting in a cage. and so if you're one of the other all of the arcs in russia at the time you were sitting there panicking thinking my god i want to go and sit mccain and so after a lot of cops he was sentenced to 10 years in jail the oligarchy went back to putin and said what we have to do to make sure we don't sit in jail and and that's when
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he said 50 percent wow and there's a lot of anecdotal that nobody can prove that these are all private conversations but there's a lot of anecdotes that back that up going right up to the u.s. government and u.s. treasury which sanctioned people like you not eat them chink of the owner going for a company just mentioned as being buttons cashier fundamentally is there an issue with the lead of being rich donald trump for president the united states he was rich if mike bloomberg could become the president he was rich silvio berlusconi in italy he was rich as well i mean this is there's nothing that says they can't be wealthy. well you use a few examples of very compromised characters like berlusconi and donald trump i mean in theory there's that mean that there's arguments both ways what one is that if you're rich you don't need to get rich by being president and you can read you know in a in a pure and truthful way. you know there's also an argument that behind every great fortune is
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a great crime and so you know it really depends on character to character but in putin's case he is for he was for sure just a low level bureaucrat before he became president and definitely didn't mean business interests behind him and so for him to have become this rich in office is disappear or absolute. corruption situation so all those protests that we saw when alexei navalny came back to russia they indicated displeasure let's say with that i'm a poet and the numbers that came out do you think that that indicated it is that it is a strong movement that it is i mean i don't know how much you can say across the board for russia because it's such a big country and has a lot of people there but is there growing discontent with those in across the board with specially with things like the palace coming to coming to prominence. well you wait what you have to understand is is that the people in russia. the
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money that has gotten is it belongs to the people of russia that these people in don't have don't have health care they don't have education the roads are full of potholes it's all the money that should have gone to the people has gone to hooten in a 1000 people around him and so they're furious and they're tired they're hungry and so the protests are absolutely real some of them are absolutely supporting alexina valby but some of them are just like outraged at their standard of living and the fact that the president lives in a palace with ice skating rinks and stripper holes in the basement and they're barely getting enough money to buy potatoes for the winter. does pose and does the russian government acknowledge though that there is an economic crisis in the country are they sort of saying actually where i can say well i think at this point it's impossible to deny that there is an economic crisis we're going to i mean in this not just to russia but everywhere with kofi annan but. you know that group that controls the state television and he tries ain't as rosy
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a picture as he can probably possibly paint but the problem is that then if you're hungry it doesn't matter what what's on state t.v. you're hungry and so when you come back to the question how real is the protest it took place over 90 cities in russia hundreds of thousands of people just the number of people arrested was 11000 people 11000 people arrested because they tried to arrest as many people as they call it there are enough jail cells wrong people get arrested tell me about international reaction to what's going on there obviously it comes to a point with no volley and you have the state government saying you must be released and they say only sorts of things but then you have a country like germany which has business interest with russia it has the nordstrom to pipeline project and it's not going to touch that is it. well and worse than germany is that you have the european union as a whole and the european union as a whole has to set its foreign policy based on 100 percent consensus of e.u. member states and so you can and putin has wormed his way into certain. member
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states like hungry for example he's got very very close and i would argue corrupt relations with bigger orbán the president of hungary and as a result of that all it takes is one country or bomb. hungary with orbán or cyprus or malta i'm to completely watered down the entire e.u. foreign policy towards russia and so now i fear that that whatever reaction there will be and there will be a reaction but i'm sure that the reaction certainly be watered down by putin's very clever ways of forming his way into and diluting foreign policy the bill browder with his views on what's happening in russia at the moment thank you for joining us we do appreciate it. thank you. now flows before perves main starts wall street bets if you know what any of those
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main then well done you a younger and far more in touch than i am what you might have heard though is a lot of fuss about stocks in something cold game stop now with those sorts of phrases which are now part of the stock market lexicon we have to say a new generation has taken many of the old hands by surprise and seen the market go to new highs they make bets using new trading apps which of democratized trading the show but their biggest fads actually laid waste to the multi-billion dollar hedge funds who've been short selling the stocks we will demystify all of this in a moment with our guests after this report from kristen so they me in new york. you have to have some type of faith if you're in the stock market i don't think all of it is just skill i think some of it is also maybe it's his daily ritual of lighting sage but lately pablo battista has been lucky he made $11000.00 selling game stop stop and since losing his job as a cook working from his bronx apartment as
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a day trader was really paying off we hope a grand voice we got the ground but then the platform he was using called robin hood started putting limits on trades i saw it like these guys are trying to stop me when i'm at my peak leading up to game stop i had already been making money making a lot of money since 2019 the volume of trading by small time investors like him has grown from 10 to roughly 25 percent of the market. they're credited with boosting game stop from under $22.00 above $300.00 a share outsmarting hedge funds who bet against the struggling retailer robin hood and other platforms have since come under fire for imposing the restrictions sparking a downturn in share prices the ire of investors in an investigation by congress robinhood c.e.o. said they had no choice in order to cover the trades a claim questioned by investors we actually did not do this the direction
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of the market maker or hedge fund so we were really unprecedented. in order to protect the firm and protect our customers we had limited buying. stocks without ever setting foot on wall street pablo and other so-called retail investors have been collecting their financial muscle with the help of technology and social media hitting institutional investors right where it hurts their bottom line. but even before game stop sounded the alarm the market was at record highs a trend experts say is unsustainable brock pierce is a former actor who's made millions investing and believes it's the hedge funds not individual investors who need to be restricted what we're seeing is the democratization of the financial system
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a line is being drawn which side of the fence you stand on are you with the people or are you with a small group of institutions that are profiting from killing companies oh yes rip and. as for pablo he knows investing comes with risks in my savings account and basically i said yeah so they're all my money in the stock market probably wasn't the smartest thing to do but that's why i think i'm kind of where i'm at right now because i took that risk risks he believes he. and other individuals are entitled to take new highs every week. so that report possibly leaves you with a lot of questions so we've got it to trading styles into trying to make some sense of all of this in limits all unsigned press we've got kind of who is the head of investment research at f.x. primus and in london is jimmy mad who's the director of investment strategy at the german finned take not so good to have both of you with us today i mean i'll start
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with you in london. i'll do the i'll do the really short basic version bored millennial zz time on their hands technology get their hands mucking around with stocks that that could be the simple story but is there actually an element of truth in this that the the the great disruption that we see these days is a great topic cavers some correlation we look at the retail index of the s. and p. $500.00 which the layman sense is the biggest stock market index in the united states of the major $500.00 companies now the retitled against the macuntil somewhat near 20 percent of the overall market which is a big jump from previous years and if we look at that they both him and global market volatility we have a 20 percent move of volatility now from the return audience which is up nearly double over the past 10 years and yes we could say that the global market volatility of the past one year has decreased appetite perhaps lockdowns have also helped and since i'm looking at how it's divided your money however i would say the global market volatility in the headlines because of this volatility are the major
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reasons why people are looking to how to invest but if you could have to go for a populist class for that and at its strongest weekly level is luscious the 1980 s. british pound and some of the volatility or prices on it's a decorative territory for the 1st time in history so i do think the global market that looks at the headlines i would crease an appetite an awareness towards the investment trade and audience however of course no concept or so increase the encouragement to look up of things to do specifically how to manage your money at times what incomes you all know it being stretched if you. so there is some truth for the weather it's not the only factor in play so when the game stop story came out jamil you maybe went that surprised sort of we were maybe heading down this sort of road at some point now that was still a surprise i feel like we still were going to stop was completely different because resort a little bit of a wild wild west touch up between the retired audience who feel that perhaps they have not been able to benefit from the opportunities of financial markets on the other side of the world but what we are friends of the major institutions and
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obviously they paid a lot of money generally up the global market volatility of the past when you have this wild wild west that jamail tells us about i mean if that was all happening online it was happening on reddit for example platforms which aren't new so why now is it just the more technologies coming through more discussions turning online the apps the robin hoods and all that are out there and people are are really taking advantage of it now come on i think there are a few angles that we have to consider so 1st of all yes we've had these message boards for for more than a decade now but i think we've seen a number of structural shifts happening in the marketplace for retail investors be dominant as a 1st of all we've seen a 0 fee trading being introduced we've seen access to really high quality information for retail retail investors but also we've seen the game if you cation off the trading activity so i think that the retail investors have become really active in the marketplace and if you at the elements of people having a lot of spare time and they're having spare cash on their hands in the form of
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government government stimulus i think then we have the grounds for situations like just game stop to take place and i also think that we should consider that the perspective of maybe retail feeling a bit of on just after 2008 when a lot of the boys got a bit of a bailout from the government and you know the general populous was sort of left behind to deal with low g.d.p. growth and also low recovery in the chops maybe i'm a bit conservative but it sounds all terribly risky to me i know that's the nature of trying to but you know shouldn't the fundamentals of a stir. still be the most important thing in the end i think we have seen a lot of capital flowing into momentum so i don't she's in general so i don't even mean reed said i also mean on the institutional side so i don't see much difference between retail chasey momentum in the form of game stock versus let's say institutional following comments in the form of what for instance e.t.f. so definitely fundamentals were not considered when we talk about the game stock
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situation but i do see that there was a bit of a lot a lot by the retail just going after the for the benefit of the gate jamail that you want to jump in there are so you got to say something. at some point you've made a key critical point and so some fellow guests look the s. and p. $500.00 if we look at the 35 percent drop that it's so true and that much period of last year when the begin to make that was the biggest drop that we have seen for many many yes but only took $125.00 trading days interest roughly 4 months to recover from that kind of momentum if we look at previous crisis it took something like $1500.00 trading days which between $4.00 to $5.00 trading is so definite that kind of momentum that we've seen of markets has increased appetite across the board but not just across the region or gets to across the institutions that peabody outstation look at ok if governments and central banks are kids and you've got the money into the market that they can explain you're sending this
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message oh and it doesn't go to what's the message that the supplier markets we're going to put a we sell the sex thing through with the u.s. china trade tensions of 2002 central banks that recent policy we saw it last year too because the pandemic but basically the message has being that there's a problem in markets that the somebody some lights at the mouth and that increases appetite cross the border in terms of buy low sell high cliches a lot of cliches that should many educated investors have to be educates what's in the sun the risk the high and those spaces have been that based on the mechanisms of the market we've never seen such an official markets we have today when we got markets there record highs of all time highs but we all know that reality level we're nowhere near that kind of sentiment and some some of the global economy spinning news today exactly and i want to come back to that in a moment but let me just quickly on see jimmy about regulation as well because you've described this sort of crazy market in crazy well that's going on there will there be regulation of the likes of wall street bets and then the robin hood apps and the things like that is that even possible. it's possible but i think that
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needs to be regulation across the board because again we're saying about those kind of retired labs make so like they're the only ones of the victims or those who come to exploit on the global market mechanisms that goes far beyond those so i think that the average french the institutions the banks that you know that all of the participants in global production they have their own broaches play in the products that it's an either or different aspects have to be looked at and it cannot just going to be tropic a ship or individual audiences are going to reach the audience undercounts or 20 percent of daily volume but still a much higher number than we used to be that means that there's some even more significant proportion by under 6 of the contributors and those contributors also have to be looked at the same light as the breach at all to get a final thought for you then because jimmy wales made the point about the markets being at record highs there must be a chance of a correction at some point we can't keep on this trajectory forever that to me was 100 percent correct. think the fact that you know we see
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a lot of momentum at some moment but i do see volatility in the 2nd half of 2021 and i think they could be a few potential sources for that so i would say that inflation could right in certain pockets of the economy i would say we could see volatility from matt the 2nd stimulus package that the republicans are now to pose in the senate and i don't see that being approved and certainly i would say once we see any sort of cut into $41.00 k. flows. we could see a bit of a pullback in the equities to mail ahead and kai pov i'm so glad both of you could join us for this discussion really appreciate it thank you. going to end this week's edition in africa kenya which you may or may not know impose the world strictest ban on plastic due some 4 years ago but environmentalists fear the country is now under pressure to weaken its resolve they're accusing the american plastics industry of trying to influence
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a trade deal so it can actually increase its waste shipments under the guise of recycling malcolm webb has the story from nairobi. sifting through mountains of garbage isn't a clean or safe way to make a living but it has a good song collecting not clear plastics she can make about $4.00 on a good day. maybe. we are not employed by anyone we are here because of poverty the plastic we sought belongs to a company they are the ones who make money out of it. she's among hundreds of people who work at this dump in kenya's capital nairobi they're part of a small recycling industry which struggles to cope with the piles of waste that grow with the economy whatever can be recycled is separated and bagged up ready to be taken away organic matter eventually decomposes and then if you look closely at
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what's left is just plastic which can take more than a century to decompose environmentalists say kenya's plastics problem is about to get much worse because of a free trade deal that the government is negotiating with the u.s. many of america's largest oil and chemical companies who profit from plastics represented by a lobby group called the american chemistry council he wrote the u.s. government trade officials suggesting that kenya could serve as a hub for u.s. made plastics in africa enabled through the kenya u.s. trade deal. kenya's environmentalist are alarmed james who gave years one of them he started a campaign led to kenya planning plastic bags 4 years ago he says america's plastics industry wants to increase its trade here and the dumping of american plastic waste america. to small nations. that. you know would
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be good but not for other countries so i'm trusting small nations. into accepting such a deal we mean we are going to reverse the gains we have made so far some gains at the ready being reversed for generations soft drinks here have been sold in glass bottles which are returned and refilled but plastic is taking over it's more profitable for plastic manufacturers a waste for the dump the american chemistry council says it's not seeking to override kenya's existing regulation of plastics and kenya's trade minister is denied that any such proposal is on the table the environmentalists are skeptical but say president joe biden now has a chance to change the direction of negotiations. is already struggling to deal with its own growing plastic waste the environmentalists say more plastics and more dumping would be disastrous. and that is where we'll leave you this week but i want
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