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a case where us compensated civilians we listen to the only music you hear your own the most beautiful music in the world and silence we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on the no 0. time for me at k. a welcome to the stream a new documentary from the new york times about the author britney spears takes a look at how her life not just her music became and detainment go on look if you're feeling the show and. you know what you can do just jumping to the comment section because what we're asking what we're wrestling with is why do some media outlets treat women in a specific way and how does that impact people who aren't even celebrities that's the conversation part of it. the media's treatment of britney spears is complicated

at 1st the media treated her like a goddess because she embodied a stereotype of sexual desirability so blonde so tony pull up she was a living barbie that was a powerful and problematic message in and of itself on the other hand the media treatment of her mental illness was savage and sons a powerful and damaging message especially to girls and women too that there is something shameful or stigmatized about mental illness that people who identify as female can't recover from such illness and that you should either be perfect as the media define it or your skull men are treated that way. standby for a nuance conversation already had so i guess assumed ready for this compensation to happen how i learned to u.k. madeleine saatchi hello wendy really good to see you can tell us who you want and

what you do. my name is kim kye men and i am the former senior director of marketing at jive records i was for experiences marketing director for her 1st 4 albums at the label and i've been in music business for a little over 30 years have been for universal music son of music and more music with various artists from the rolling stones to accept 12. storey nice to have a thank you for being with us today and i start tejas yourself to an international audience sure my name is ashley cole i'm a culture a care for as he nears based out of new york britney stan as we all should be and i'm also the author of the aptly titled when they will all be dad and not this one after thank you for being with us and i am wendy and welcome to the stream to introduce yourself to us. thank you my name is wendy williams i am the

president of the society for the psychology of women which is the division of the american psychological association and i am also the dean of the school of education here at mills college. guess i want to start with a rolling stone magazine cover of 999 and i really want to get your instant take on this i know you seen this before when do you stop what he said 16 year old britney . i see a sexualized girl who is emerging and emerging those notions of being sexual but also just being a just being a girl and how you know the private spaces that girls tend to have and can have in their homes be made public in the ways that she. knows that you're looking and that is also engage in an activity in which it's truly likely that most people wouldn't be looking on a girl in her room perhaps on the phone at home so she would be seen not so he

famously rolling stone cover and yeah i agree it's complicated because it's hard pressed to know exactly how much control that she had over that kind of imaging at the time she was very young i was in her myself i mean when that cover came out i mean it was like 10 and so it was also really enticing and confusing and it was something that you wanted to be a part of but you didn't know how when you didn't really understand how you how your sexuality and what it meant and what the power structures where it is it's very complicated. q can you take us into the room with a space of the conversations where a 16 year old is put on the magazine cover a famous magazine cover and those conversations are happening and that is a good decision making process help us understand how that happens. well i was there for this particular cover or was working a child it's time. to promote part of the end of her 1st album and

it was a car that was shot by david la chapelle who everyone knows his famous photographer . there are bits of control that really she had but it was really up to rolling stone and it's harder 1st she actually had very little control nor did the label have any control over the styling of that photo shoot the photo shoot took place actually at home in louisiana and the set was built against that backdrop by it really kind of took on a life of its own it and many of us of the label many of us didn't my personal feelings about it were that i really disliked it intensely because it really didn't reflect who i knew pretty well. and i thought it was kind of creating a tangent in her career and her image that really didn't need to happen and

so unfortunately we were left with the this was the car yes it's iconic but as far as what i see any character. and when to you just signed one as you just saw. and i sighed because i think that what we are experiencing and seeing in unseen that that image is the tension that our culture has around sex and what our culture that tension our culture has aroused that and the ways in which we supplant that in place on top of children particularly girls. and girls of all black rat backgrounds and the ways in which pros of diverse backgrounds are treated similarly and sexualized similarly but also how that sexualization is handled differently and watching that happen over time so just hearing the background story that it actually was in our home better also the tensions that folks are having around how

to protect that and what types of. energies where sort of centering and what types motivations versus entering their different decision making about that and where that control did or did not lie and it seems to me that seems to me that the tension around that the questions are are our society has and particular us society has around sex and sexuality and youth and young people really comes to bear with that decision making process. only we have stuart kuttner i'm going to give stuart's question to you is such a you can't explain it somebody who won't allow it so if somebody has been exploited then and now i mean it's do you have to agree with this comic and take the pills or. go into absurd it's absurd it doesn't it doesn't take into account like many events around 20000 words in a way with women and girls i mean it's just not true you know sometimes you don't

know you're being exploited and mater and and frankly i don't know if that's the case here i don't know that still sort of suggests that i understand something about britney spears that she herself wouldn't know she's and told us a lot so i don't think i can make a lot of sweeping generalizations like she was a. party to her own exploitation and i think that's absurd no she wasn't she didn't see the exploitation until as you say after the car came out i think everyone has kind of taken aback and i think you are correct when you say not in control she was a 17 year old girl this was her 1st car story with rolling stone magazine being shot by this very famous very infamous photographer david la chapelle who was known for specializing all of his subjects and everyone was just honored that he was doing this and she was thrilled just to be on the cover of

rolling stone but after it came out that teletubbies in her arms of you know was all this innuendo no one really thought of. a brilliant piece of art it was seen as exploitive. i want to bring in the voice of professor at least sippy cup that and she outlines the idea of we have the celebrities they reach a peak and. then somehow that peak then descends into some kind of tragedy this is how lisa sums it up have a listen. the media helped to create britney spears and destroy her the depictions allowed grown men to sexualize her and prompted young girls to want to be just like her her downfall was really treated like a reality show we were all watching in real time and the media depictions of britney's hot women that their social value was implicitly tied to their heidi but

more importantly once their sexual capital was no longer a commodity the world no longer had a use for them. when do you start in such a you pickup. i wound up you know i. i think that that is just so so spot on in terms of the messages that women get about their use and usefulness and the messages that we craft and disseminate to young girls very very early and it's a very different type of messaging then we craft and set up and share with young boys about who they are what their bodies are and how their bodies are to be used that they're for and so i can completely see that. i have a lot of thoughts about it however because the story about britney happened 20 over 20 years ago and thinking a lot about the ways in which media is not just. media happening at or toward

someone but also the media that we make of ourselves and out there so you know i had a reaction to the question at such a response you by the the you tube community member blaney of someone he had a blaming of a child and i think that there's there's the blaming of the child but i also think that what is being blamed and what has been demonized a bit is that child's ambition which i watched the documentary and i was really proud and excited for her to go for her cheering and the idea that going for your dream means that you are said to be subjected to the very sexualized violence and i would say that there was a sort of public sexualization of the type of violence terms that chasing her down that chase and capture to chase and capture of images but also to capture and spaces of mental ability at at peak times of distress for her as a young mother and as a young person. just completely profound and so the ways in which that sort of is

on display in that documentary and some of the images that we now have an opportunity to look back on his account. i think there's something so strange about the way that we're looking for responsibility in this topic it's like we all want to find who we can blame for this and it's never ourselves so even in that question you know can you be pointed at me or involve men when we do we did it they were i mean we consumed that we like it it wanted more of it i mean you know about traditional media and prophecy and stuff like that i mean that would not be an ecosystem that was successful had we not consumed with they were producing so to act as if it's just her fault or it's just the at the outlets that are reporting on her this way it's not something that is many for the super complicated and later and we're all a party to where we are pretty then of course. but mostly giving our saviour's.

kids can use a few things i want to show you here and these are some of the big academic studies that have been done about the impact of when young girls and actually winning celebrities preach hate in this way the sexualization of girls they say is from the a.p.a. tusk force the succession to gals is going to come a mental health problems and women eating disorders no self-esteem to russian and a.p.a. towns false reports american psychological association one more here this is from unicef so they look at this is a global issue i was pretty melissa henson and i'd love you came to come off the back of this desire one thing is the music in the entertainment industry leaving cat that has some kids and some women are being impacted negatively it's going to melissa henson for us. so to the extent that girls are seeing primarily or

exclusively highly sexualized eroticized images of young women in the media it shapes their expectations about what their life is going to be when they mature and what's what society expects of them. girls who consume highly sexualized media for example we know are more likely to suffer from eating disorders are more likely to initiate sex at a younger age are going to have more sexual partners over the course of their lifetime they're also more likely to have an unwanted pregnancy or more likely to experience episodes of depression he says show business is even a shutout. and that's really really important that hasn't really been discussed at least from what i've seen in complicity on this documentary and that is the question of diversity

in this whole situation and the fact that britney being in the white southern woman and having this culture because she came from this culture of sexualized image and you have to understand what she was doing it was not just something that a record company created or took advantage of that this was also part of her culture to be the youthful to be attractive to attract a husband and ultimately get married and have a family this is this is very much a regional cultural now and a so the other part of this is the sort of double standard women of color and in the rat community and in the urban music community how we have artists like carney and many in the stallion and if you naish and they are very very sexualized and very proud of it talk about it. openly and yet if britney doesn't get

a pass and i think that what that does is it marginalizes women of color even more because this is supposed to be part of who they are on do the record companies take advantage of it do they care. i think they care to an extent they have limits obviously and you know nobody's doing anything you know pornographic but they want to make money so they're going to use what people appetites are asking for and i'm not condoning it at all as a lemon it's myself i find it a little bit frustrating but i see happening all the time and i think it's getting even worse because i think the media especially in television production that reality t.v. shows like the bachelor. actually brett are just trying to get or saying it's not going on. in this life came i live let me let me give this to you this is jennifer jennifer is watching life right now jennifer thank you subject of personal

responsibility why don't we take more of a stand as women to actively shun these types of behavior coming from men media or even other women so many scam why why are women they know this and keep saying this over and over again we saw it in the fifty's so in the sixty's or in seventy's we keep seeing hits why don't we say when you're doing that. well you know some women are saying that they're not going to do that i think that once you get to a position of power when you look at taylor swift or adele for instance you're not seeing now current in or around. they are taking it different. you have to get took place of power and unfortunately for women at least in show business they have to kind of walk through the fire of become a famous in the coming hour also do that the other problem is that at least in the music business i can say there's not enough women executives at the top of the food

chain that are really making these decisions to say no we are not going to do that we're not going to have our artists look that way we're not going to sign artists that want to look that way and we're not going to promote that that's islands. that hasn't changed. in the time that i've been working in the business and i've been in it for 30 years so that though that's what has to change. i have to give this still it this is from jack jack is what she right now he was no you were a penis that gets sort of european on social media because isn't this a different era now with people i'm paraphrasing jacquet with but people have more control celebrities have more control we'll have more control about what do you want to put out there who is telling the story do we have our own story to tell so . yeah i think it's a very different environment now than it was 20 years ago when britney was sort of coming up you have different mechanisms to control your narrative now you have

instagram you can post and notes apology and twitter if you feel like you did something i mean there's like a 1000000 ways to be able to get out ahead of a story you don't really need to do a glossy diane sawyer interview. and then in terms of the question of light control and why do us women allow this to happen i mean i feel a great deal of control when it comes to my own sexuality and i know a lot of women feel. we and a lot of girls feel our way i mean that's sort of the time when you're playing with figuring out what it means for you and what power means for it you know. so i don't think we can sweep it with one brush and say like well we should all just shut down it's that's not feasible and it's not possible but that yeah i mean the social media allows a very different kind of conversation to happen in hugh as the person in the forefront of it can control it to some degree. you mentioned diane sawyer which which takes me back to n e t she didn't britney spears in 2003 when do you watch the sort of clip i'm

wondering is it possible that an anchor reporter would approach me to be display in 2021 have a listen have a look i have to ask a couple things but. i think it's going on television pretty much said he broke his heart. you did something that cost him so much but. so much suffering what did you do. i was upset i was upset for allow leap of. i think or both early on when it was kind of waiting to happen. wendy if you see that indicated this week when we didn't make it we get to an event. so i don't make those decisions but i would hope that you know here's an interview

about her and her career and its focus on the boy she dated. back that that's given so much time and attention and a national interview for her is a striking you know i i wonder and the in the air to you as well as i think a more empowered moment for us as a society and as a society of women and also men and all of us just sort of saying you know what enough is enough in terms of the sort of gaslighting and blaming i. i think that the i'm remembering back i grew up in the ninety's and i remember him back to those tabloid articles and how it really was about the relationships that celebrities were having with one another and how they came together what their experiences in time in the relationship look like when they were together and also what their breakups were about that was really the focus of the news and and i wonder if i don't think that we're in a space where we would value that as much but it truly is you know it's troubling to watch and also to watch her break out and further and that particular spot is

hard to watch but he's kind of a case story 1st so this conversation a case history for this conversation but he's come to multiple celebrities where people apologizing to decades later 3 decades later that really wasn't good behavior we're sorry about this and wondering if it documents you can really change the way we think can refill and can we do better going forward leon simmons says yes have a listen to this scam. i think that we'll look back on this new york times documentary . as a sort of catalyst for change within the media i do think it has opened a lot of eyes it's got the conversation started as far as the way women and girls are being depicted by the media and a huge part of that was the fact that the study memory was female driven you know who better to understand the intricacies of womanhood in feminism than women.

keeping you in. keep you were there. i just laid my debrett's i love lance so much she is so brilliant and she's absolutely right samantha star director of the documentary deception amazing job and it was a crew of women talking about women which i think is so important she's absolutely right do i think it's going to change things maybe a little bit it's really going to be driven by social media because unfortunately this documentary is only arm hulu and if you don't subscribe to her it's going to be difficult for people to see i hope that it becomes such of course and such a conversation that eventually it actually gets really aired on f.x. the fox network which is so are on a get out of itself. if that happens then fantastic i think that really will be a catalyst for change but i think that before that happens we really have to get

control of what the networks see as good as national programming we've got to get rid of these shows who are women are being exploited on a regular i'm talking about janet that they're on the bachelorette and these reality t.v. shows you know pass for programming because the networks don't want to spend money on production. you know it's the 1st sorry him taken off the field so i am hate watching the bachelor right now cooking every night it's my cooking is not to make kids thank you so much so that she appreciate you wendy appreciate you to have a look here at my laptop because maybe i'm not sure of the document she will change the way we think but this certainly not pushy flowing to britney's direction gamma mag we are sorry britney we're always to blame for what happened to britney spears

and will more hear justin timberlake i'm sorry. l.o.l. . so little too late by judge oh that wasn't me that was the poster thank you so much we changed not to die has al jazeera ever come to britney spears story we don't think so but this is probably the only time i'm thanking you cheap this could be part of that come the sanction the next time take. to make a change. change your life whole the path of a country challenge the accepted truths you want to create something you push to break even your remote to turn the status quo and fight injustice down the hall months to get it done. will. witness personal documentaries not alter deception on al-jazeera.

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