Skip to main content

tv   Inside Story  Al Jazeera  March 3, 2021 8:30pm-9:00pm +03

8:30 pm
kept to a minimum or banned altogether a final decision is expected later this month after talks with the international olympic committee and other stakeholders as always more news on our website at al-jazeera dot com the very latest on all of our top stories on their own just sierra dot com. hello again i'm fully back to bill with the headlines on al-jazeera the international criminal court has opened an investigation into suspected war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by israel in the occupied palestinian territory in 2014 it says it will also look into the actions of gaza based hamas and other palestinian groups during the conflict need abraham has more from ramallah one of the main issues that the palestinians hope that the i.c.c. would investigate is the illegal israeli settlement on the ground they hope that
8:31 pm
the prosecutor would look into this as the main violation of international law and they believe that this has been a policy by the israeli authorities it's not just a war crime here or that they believe that the foreign minister has released the statement as you mentioned and they say that this has been continuing and if these were crimes are ongoing which is why they want to i.c.c. to investigate and conclude its investigation urgently. myanmar has seen its worst day of violence since assad of the military code the united nations has just announced that 38 people have been killed during protests on wednesday security forces fired live ammunition in an attempt to break up demonstrations that took place in several cities. in the u.s. capitol police say it's obtained intelligence of a possible plot to breach the capitol by an unidentified militia group on thursday march 4th as
8:32 pm
a day when followers of the debunked here and on conspiracy theory believe donald trump will retake power. senior u.s. officials have held their 1st meeting with iran back to the rebels according to the reuters news agency the biden administration is pushing to negotiate an end to the 6 year conflict in yemen talks reportedly took place in amman last 5 days the whole fees conflict with the saudi led coalition has cost tens of thousands of lives in yemen coronavirus a pandemic in the republican controlled u.s. states of texas and mississippi are lifting nearly all they're called in 1000 or sections despite warnings from health officials from next week all businesses will be able to fully reopen and no one will be required to wear a mask this week the head of the centers for disease control warned against such a rollback saying it could lead to a surge in infections those are the headlines i have more news for you on the al-jazeera news hour in under 30 minutes next inside story sailor this.
8:33 pm
awesome covert 900 vaccines better than others in france and germany people are taking up the pfizer shots but shunning astra zeneca is offering health experts say we shouldn't pick and choose so who is white this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm rob matheson now most countries are proving different covert 1000 vaccines to try to control the pandemic the drug makers of touting varying levels of protection for example pfizer and madonna say their shots
8:34 pm
worked on 95 percent of the people who received them in a clinical trial oxford astra zeneca reported about 70 percent that has led to a belief that some vaccines are better than all those france's health ministry says only a quarter of the astra zeneca vaccines it's received have been used in germany 2 thirds of its 1400000 viles are still in storage and some sitting say people are canceling their appointments in favor of pfizer but on monday france changed its original advice so those over the age of $65.00 could receive the astra zeneca job germany is under pressure to follow suit included norman actually we should make astra zeneca available for everyone as quickly as possible and not in 4 or 6 weeks and every new vaccine on the market should be put into a system to speed up facts in. nations i would make additional doses of astra
8:35 pm
zeneca available immediately through general practitioners no vaccine must be left sitting around in germany or some health experts say we should focus on the number of people in hospital and the death toll instead of the so-called effectiveness percent of a particular vaccine this tweet by the dean of the brown university school of public health has been shared thousands of times he says no one who has received a job in a clinical trial has died or been taken to hospital while real world studies suggest any vaccine will prevent serious illness in scotland the astra zeneca job reduce the number taking up hospital beds by 94 percent israel which has inoculated the most people per capita found last month that only 0.04 percent of those given jobs developed covered 19 india's health ministry says no deaths have been linked to the vaccine and in the us the top infectious disease official is urging all americans to get whichever vaccine is available. all 3 of them are really quite
8:36 pm
good and people should take the one that's most available to them if you go to a place and you have j. and j. and that's the one that's available now i would take it i personally would do the same thing i think people need to get vaccinated as quickly and as expeditiously as possible and if i would go to a place where they had j.n.j. i would have no has to didn't see whatsoever to take it. ok let's bring in our guests from oxford to samantha found a slot as a social science research or the oxford vaccine group and barcelona geoffrey lhasa this is the head of the health systems research group at the boss of the institute for global health and with us from gun talk in the indian state of sick in the secret chettri as a medical doctor and member of unesco's international bioethics committee welcome to the program thank you very much indeed for being with us geoffrey there's been a difference of course between people hesitating to get the vaccine and people
8:37 pm
refusing to get the vaccine but in the short term the result is pretty much the same why is this such public uncertainty about some of these vaccines. well there is a lot of myths circulating there's also some concerns about this speed in which the vaccines were were approved so we try to explain that the process was able to go quickly for a number of reasons including a high uptake in disability in the clinical trials careful oversight rolling reviews by the regulatory agencies and so there's a there's a you know as you mentioned there's a group that's hesitating but it very much smaller that actually using to get vaccinated so a month as i was just talking about there the media has focused a lot on this so-called efficacy level of vaccines but experts are saying that we should be looking at the 0 or close to 0 hospitalizations and the death tolls to
8:38 pm
judge those vaccines how much does that influence the way that the public at large is viewing these vaccines. i think that's right and the problem is the efficacy levels from the trial are part of the things are get taken away by the public so if you're looking at different vaccines and compare and you have those numbers in mind and it does need to the sale of one vaccine is better than the other is just maybe not the case that you can make these kind of comparisons about trial data and we know that all of the vaccines that have been approved for emergency use of stop in these last so i said their innocence and death so they're stopping transmission also really just points to take in the vaccine that's off the t.v. and not pick and choose and the 2nd is not just about 4 figures a look at that though is it because i understand that in india there was a company called biotech to develop his own vaccine called kovacs and now it was if
8:39 pm
i understand it correctly it was given emergency approval by the government there were no details initially given about the effectiveness rates how much do you think a lot and a patent lack of transparency is contributing to people's suspicion of vaccines yet transparency level is of course the major determining factor but then again even the current biotechs vaccine was approved so emergency use it was very elaborately available in the government portal looting the site effects off does our our it by shield vaccine just collects in and also the 2nd vaccine which was developed by serum institute which is known as i receive that will be huge short and if you visit the government portal off india you will see that alongside these 2 vaccines have been reason long that their site thinks so the drums being so level was quite adequate yes but to the masses not because i come from such a country rare not everybody has access to internet and government portals so the
8:40 pm
transparency level is limited only to a sudden strata of the society who have access to internet and the portals and that sort of literacy level but to the masses so yes this lack of transparency not exactly but the lack of propagation of the scene is playing in fact is being who in the hesitancy of actions in india. given the fact that almost all the vaccines that are that are being offered at the moment have if i understand it correctly just a couple of month's worth of data that is being provided so they can be provided they can be put forward for emergency approval the long term effects of all these vaccines we don't really know even the pharmaceutical companies don't really know about that how do you get the public. to trust an unproven vaccine really in any medicine in fact yes to many medications which have just come into use ramdass them for example i do goldman and its use that we do know it's not the
8:41 pm
long term the sex but in the health and in medicine what we do is we always read the rules and the codes and at this juncture the rules of the facts are not definitely much much much more than once it is obviously better to keep a shot at detecting ourselves from paul that than dying from it so i feel we as health care workers should lead by example you know and we should educate the public as much as possible about the trials that have been done about the side effects so far as much as being the most knowledge is the best counter count to 5 years that is what i believe so you know we can give them as much knowledge as we can and about the long term side effects see we do know that there are short term side effects but we don't know you also have this much that that there are blue lights children in low light exactly the way the vaccines were who. jeffrey which we don't know does. jeffrey i just want to ask you i mean the perception of covert itself. obviously we had al-jazeera been covering that story for ever since it
8:42 pm
began well over a year ago the images that come to me predominantly are of crowded i.c.u. beds around the world of. health stuff medical stuff under tremendous pressure but the stories of individuals being affected the way that code that actually affects the individuals are far fewer those images are not as strong do you think that that has an impact on the way that people perceive covert and subsequently therefore perceived the need to get a vaccine i do. think you know when medications vaccines are promoted we tell individual stories here it's really been the story of protecting the health system protecting society but we need to emphasize that individuals have been greatly affected long cold it is a very serious issue and i think it's important now to start telling the story of
8:43 pm
what it's like for people who who are on respirators responding to for 6 weeks or longer in a hospital the impact on them personally and their life and on their families and there's thousands tens of thousands hundreds and thousands and now millions of individual stories and those are no well known to people you know that well it might not affect me or it only be like. a couple of days which is difficult to breathe but what we do know that most long term effects are serious adverse events for accede occur very early on that we don't know is the long term effects and the contract kool-aid i think that's a story that really needs to be told and emphasized samantha we're hearing that the polish health minister is just saying that he doesn't recommend using the chinese covert vaccine at the moment because of a lack of data how much do you think the stereotypes in geopolitics play a role into the apartment effectiveness our next acceptance of certain vaccines.
8:44 pm
i think these stereotypes are playing a role but on the other side i think. heaven data been made openly available especially it's very pair of you publication and other ways that make in this information widely accessible will. increase the trust in the vaccines that are coming out. jeffrey we were. i was saying earlier on that one of the problems that she faces in india is the fact that not everybody has access to the internet in much of the as in other parts of the world and therefore getting information reliable into information can be very difficult it tends to rely on word of mouth which presents an enormous problem isn't it because you're relying on the people's assumptions about the vaccine rather than the actual data that some month that was zus mentioning there how do you get round that how do you turn that
8:45 pm
focus onto the reliability of the data and away from hearsay. but we really need a massive campaign and this needs to be led by the government and its health authorities and that means rechy every home possible with letters with pamphlets explaining the vaccines and explaining those that have been approved by the regulatory bodies that they are safe if they've been approved that it won't be long term effects other than protecting against against the virus so it's really about a grassroots campaign but led led by the government and all of the health care professionals possible so doctors nurses other health care professionals explaining but it's really about reaching it but home it's about having government officials and other health officials on t.v. regularly in the newspapers explaining this particularly to those as you mentioned
8:46 pm
good access to the internet or other kinds of technologies so you can always say that that that is something that you agree with but i understand that in certain parts of asia of course there have been health teams who've been attacked when they've attempted to go into villages and certainly at least in the early stages when they've been trying to disseminate this information people have been very suspicious that is putting again health workers at the center of this and at great risk and it's a balancing act isn't it isn't it trying to get the information out how important that information is but at the same time not risking the lives of the health workers the what i feel left at this juncture held well not the way it comes to treating the patient all propagating information. and it comes with risks but also if the information comes from us people will automatically as you make to be more accountable. so i think that is what you can risk because it is for
8:47 pm
the greater good and right now it seems to be up talking about the publication of vaccines i would like to once again steve on international media quoting my guru and a lot of modern medicine to be a doctor for that we need at least 75 percent off the global population to be you know infected wound vaccinated in order to develop good human indeed so we also need to put it across that it is not only for you as an individual to be protected as from good but it is also one of the social responsibility beyond being part of history as being written and all of you have a chance to be a part of the cure by participating in the vaccination great and by helping us develop her duty so it is also a social responsibility of this information also needs to be instilled in the minds of people so that you become more accepting to it's the idea of vaccination as a whole and this information coming from health care workers of course is going to be taken in but more accountability and just as compared to our lives so i feel yes
8:48 pm
there is risks there are a lot of side effects and that we will have to freeze but be should go ahead and do it with bravery and courage because it is far far greed to reach a good some other parts of the world of course which are limited in the number of the the alternatives of vaccines that they have available to them and therefore they're restricted to just taking the vaccine that they're being given by the government there are other parts of course which do have this variety which is allowing people to delay making a choice are making a choice to delay getting the vaccine because they don't like one vaccine as it was perhaps happening in the early days in france they they were prefer to take another vaccine what are the risks though of having. that that choice become a negative when people are delaying and delaying because they don't get the vaccine that they actually want and yet covert is still marching on. i would echo what everyone has been saying and the best way to protect yourself and also bring
8:49 pm
bring an end to the pandemic will be to accept the vaccine that you are. and with the new variant sutta are covered up this is the best way that we can protect ourselves and everyone else by really picking and choosing them and trying to decide which is the best vaccine will only delay that. will cause us more problems in the future jeffery as i was mentioning there dr fauci in the us has said that a minimum level of 75 percent is needed in order to be able to ensure that we're on top of covered 19 certainly in the u.s. but obviously across the world as well what are the risks do you think that enough people are going to hesitate to take a vaccine or indeed not take a vaccine the toll that we may not reach that 75 percent point that in fact we are going to elongate covered 19 for a much much longer period of time. but right now i think there is
8:50 pm
a serious risk but i think there's even a bigger risk which is that we need to reach that 75 percent maybe even 80 percent of you know population vaccinated so-called community or herd immunity as quickly as possible because of the emergence of new variance and right now those variants are being relatively controlled by the vaccines except for the variant observed in south africa so new variants emerge and there's resistance to that actually means we have a serious problem so we need to reach that 7580 percent they very quickly and right now the global data than most studies are showing that it is a good likelihood that we will reach that percentage but you know that hasn't been studied in all countries and we already know now that there equity issues with them i income countries getting vaccinated faster than low income countries and while i understand that particularly now where the numbers are so low so i mean the european union and most countries haven't even vaccinated 5 percent of the
8:51 pm
population so it's hard to imagine you know passing on vaccines to low income countries we also need to remember that invariance emerged in those countries because no one is vaccinated and they start to spread it we go back to having to vaccinate everyone again or in the stores sell for the sake of do you think that there is a tipping point at which governments will be forced to make it mandatory to take any vaccine that is a valuable and what do you think that tipping point might be. if at all there is a tipping point for this particular thing to make one particular vaccine though mandatory i think that would be unethical in my viewpoint because the old wish to live in people have the right to choose but then they should choose responsibly like girl you mentioned before they cannot keep on reading for the vaccine of their choice and believe then tiebacks process but yes if at all new and new strains that are emerging and then your residence starts to develop then yes government can put
8:52 pm
a cap and against all the privatization of vaccines and make it a national aids program and then that can that is all you need to bring point on the conditions under which the government can make a certain vaccine mandatory the privatisation of vaccines need to be stopped that is the only real otherwise it is a complete on the fico thing to do so to impose a certain fact since the so didn't companies that actually on the public but yes like jeffrey mentioned if we reach the juncture of résistance then we will not have any option but we need to do it in a to go manner that is what is samantha it seems from what all 3 of you are saying that the fundamental problem is in the messaging that they people are looking at the wrong thing and the media is is basically propagating that we're looking at the wrong figures as we mentioned before we should be looking at the hospitalizations in the death tolls not the efficacy of weight if we're not going to get to a point where governments are forced to make taking a vaccine mandatory what incentives do you think people could be offered in order
8:53 pm
to encourage them to take the vaccines. i think there's already been some incentives that i've been offered by the private sector and so being able to travel some airlines say that they will last for a box nation before taking a flight. i think also set in venue's and. events will be asking for vaccination say it could be the case that there is not even the need for the public sector or the government to enforce vaccination is going to come about through those private into the engines jeffrey do you think that there's a risk that if that does happen then we're going to end up with a essentially a 2 tier society when it comes to vaccines and with the potential that that could create rifts within communities and rifts within societies be between those who
8:54 pm
have not taken the vaccine for whatever reason and those who perhaps might be regarded as more privileged who have. it made in the short term some optimistic i hope is an end in sight maybe that for the next year or a year and a half there are limitations like samantha you know described. this could be bad news for concerts this could be entering your country it could be trampled it could even be attending a school in person so there will be some decisions for the public sector to make as well but then i hope ultimately that we will. you know as a mini the virus and then we will go back to issues where it. is not as relevant because there will be it's very much virus in the community it's transmitted anyway. samantha how much does politics play a part in this because we one of the issues that they had in france with astra zeneca was the. president about your microphone had originally voice concerned
8:55 pm
about the concerns about the effectiveness of the astra zeneca vaccine for people about 65 that situation in france has now been reversed but how much of an impact does the way that a politician approaches this have on whether or not people do get infected the politicians that have an unusual impact i think they have to be very careful about these kind of statements that have been made because it will affect behaviors and then it's very hard to reverse what she had said something in that particular example i would say that. misreported and didn't help the situation and the media should also play their part in making sure that the stories they publish are curates and it's not enough to go back and correct misinformation that's already got out there it's there has to be checked and clear and accurate information to
8:56 pm
begin with does the guy understand that promise and then from 0 to got injected himself and i think that was with the kovacs and virus did you notice a significant difference when he did that in a tick yes of course like in a country like mine heavily to remember logics chile as you. a lot of influences there in my country so well you know as soon as my president my prime minister knowing of the blocked facts need to there was a huge storage of people tweeting about it will sink pictures about it and along with it even the nurse who vaccinated them even she gained fame overnight so the influence is huge and i feel that is the kind of social responsibility that lies on the bill that issues to propagate the vaccines because what these c s d is in the media and it stays there for good. you know it is as you know i do agree that it has a huge impact and are late because of and those talking about incentives like to
8:57 pm
add that in india when we were discussing and then we were trying to go out to family planning and our huge population issues started giving incentives monetary incentives but people who agreed to surgically sterilize themselves males and females so we are in the process of implementing the sima vaccinations are concerned to give more neutrally incentives to the people of lower economic strata in order to increase the compliance because in a developing total country like ours people will not hesitate to 20 any kind of intervention injection for that matter you get getting someone in treatment is that in return for it so you know we should try new in a region please in order to increase the compliance or i want to thank all our guests samantha vanderslice geoffrey last address and the d.c. metro thank you too for watching you can watch this and all our previous programs any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com one for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com slash a.j.
8:58 pm
inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter we are at a.j. inside story from iraq matheson and the whole team here by for now thank are going to iraq. and. jump into the story there is a lot going on in this and julia not global community when i talk about the misinformation i think we all want to feed the hungry and aware that be part of the debate don't ever take anybody's one word because there's always a difference when no topic is off the table we have been disconnected from our land
8:59 pm
we have been disconnected from who we are good enough to heed the new in the to be part of today's discussion this dream oh now to syria. what should americans be thinking and doing right now there should be about ideas they don't care about their work is all they care about is making money china is not going to be left out of the calling for the bloated defense budget to be high the bottom line on us politics and policies america fact of the world on al-jazeera. from the world's most populated and the pacific. type us coaches and conflict in politics $1.00 to $1.00 east on al-jazeera. since its inception in 1961 the kuwait fund has been supporting people's livelihoods in over 100 countries by funding projects in an array of sectors. ranging from infrastructure
9:00 pm
to health and education. these initiatives ultimately help to eradicate poverty. and promote sustainable development. zira. it. kind of this is a news hour on al-jazeera i'm fully back to broad live in doha coming up in the next 60 minutes the international criminal court opens a war crimes investigation which will look at both sides of the israeli palestinian conflict. at least 38 people were killed in an tycoon protest seen me on.

27 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on