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the 3rd day of his historic visit the pontiff is holding a prayer service in warsaw for victims of war smaller 14 has more on the significance of the pope's appearance in mosul his presence in the old city is also in a way a message of support for not just north of the bridge but also in the way and in the arab way of highlighting the lack of reconstruction and rehabilitation that has the place of the city despite the war with eyesore having been over for more than 3 years there are still a lot of buildings that are destroyed not infrastructure for people to return to this is one reason why very few in parts of the few dozen members of mortals christian community have returned to. police are using tear gas to disperse sensical protesters in myanmar who turns out in their families in this despite the escalation crackdown that follows a night of raids for security forces stormed houses rounded up people including

politicians and journalists 20 chang has more from bangkok in neighboring thailand in one of these raids and the politician khin maung lawyer who represents rakhine state. the rangar from there he was taken away and he is now being reported dead we don't know how he died yet but his death is being confirmed by other n.l. the members so it does appear that there is you know this blanket process going on on the streets in the daytime what the security services seem to be doing is using the opportunity of darkness and of the curfew that's been imposed across the country to reassert control in the dark well those are the headlines here on our just to keep it here inside story is up for you next and i'll be back at the top of their with more of the latest world east of i. teach you just the way

english streaming live on each channel. plus thousands of our programs will meet with documentaries and the dead will. subscribe to eugene forward slash al-jazeera english. and acts of violence extremism and intolerance the message from pope francis on his 1st visit to iraq but in a country deeply divided along sectarian lines will anyone listening can this visit appease the concerns of iraq's christians this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm peter now welcomed by cheering crowds and armed security lining the roads pope francis is the 1st head of the roman catholic

church to travel to iraq at the start of his 3 day landmark trip to the catholic leaders appealed for common ground among religious groups he was speaking at a meeting between peoples of different faiths in the ancient city of or a significant site for christians muslims and jews earlier he met iraq's top shia muslim cleric in the job the pope's visit is meant to spotlight the heavy toll that years of war repression and instability have taken on the country's not diminished christian communities but some have questioned why he's choosing to make the trip now asshole is covert 19 and security fears make this the riskiest trip yet for any pope iraq is of course overwhelmingly muslim but host several christian communities the number of christians in iraq is estimated to be roughly about 250000 compared to around $1500000.00 before the u.s. led invasion in $2314.00 christian groups are officially recognized in iraq about

80 percent belong to the chaldean catholic church syria x. make up about 10 percent of christians in iraq they include catholics who form the majority and orthodox christians as well another 5 percent are members of the assyrian church. believed to be the oldest in iraq. ok let's get going let's bring in our guests in iraq his father. a chaldean catholic priest in london we have christopher lamb room correspondent for the tablet he's also the author of the outsider pope francis and his battle to reform the church and in baghdad we have the director of the think tank the house of iraqi expertise foundation gentlemen thank you all for joining us akhmed rushdie in baghdad coming to you 1st why is this trip happening now well according to the data that have been discovered by the vatican is that it's

a story visit that the pope want to do a real important message is that humanity. is one humanity can be united rather than to be divided and also to have some sort of mass it from the iraqi politicians to say it's enough you kind of just. a high pressure on the people especially the christians who are actually in the eighty's or under the previous century was a quote 1400000 now it's only 200 or 300 thousands so you've got to imagine how much pressure on christian people iraqi christians now in iraq that it was done to look outside iraq so all these messages need to be matched need to be managed and yet to be said face to face to all iraqi politicians and also to save society. in a very what does iraq get out of this visit. of course.

after supplant your part of this invitation this visit has many many seen if you can. message short of a phone all day in a queue people it's very important in this time because also is the 1st up i'll visit after them and so when when the holy father about what photo about to go for the 1st. christians in iraq it to iraqi people because you know very well because he always prayed for our sport about 4 of them but of this country he's a he choose to come on board with this this can 3 to say that i am and you know if you will that i pray i pray that luck for you well and now i want to play with you from your country. to the peace and to the fact there are many and. value human

human values crystalline in london sounds to me like this is not just a religious trip it's also a political trip bops we've got an instance an unstable country we've got the security situation in play constantly of course in iraq and we've got covert 19 in play as well how risky is this trip for the pontiff. well i think it's a very risky trip and there were some people in the vatican he suggested to the pope that he should postpone or delay it in in some way but pope francis has always prioritized the countries of the suffering the most for his travels and so he is not concerned about the risks to his personal security i think what he was most concerned about was visit spreading kovac 19 there vents that would be around the visit that would would cause that but the iraqi authorities they quite clear that the visit could be carried out safely in those

terms but i think this trip is extremely powerful from a both a symbolic level theological level and political level the meeting. this morning prin the pope and ayatollah sistani's historic never before has a pope met the grand ayatollah in iraq and i thought our system is such a crucial figure for post invasion iraq but i think really at the heart of that encounter and at the heart of the pope's visit is this. point that he wants to make that religion can never be used for violence that religion is there to serve peace and in iraq which is such a diverse country of different religions this is a very very important and powerful message that is going out to the world because which other head of state has been able to travel iraq in this way so i think we really see although despite this visit being very risky

a very very strong impact which is going to have reverberations for some time to come at me coming back to you would you say this is primarily a religious trip or is it primarily a political trip because if we look at those pictures again of the pontiff meeting the grand ayatollah. alsa stanny clearly in the meeting room nobody wanted to put a foot of supply base it was that big a deal well actually you dad really believe it is religion actually has a huge impact on the people of the luck of the peoples like in iraq so that's why it is a religion a religious action in a way to put on political pressure which which just as i said it's i think the pope said clearly too to the grand ayatollah is that you're sure making lots of pressure to stop then the new separateness of the people of the iraqi people not only

christian iraqis because eventually it will help to improve the people's life now that does not get the main message is that iraq richard has is actually in its diversity in a way to improve. the lack of the people in iraq and there's that's all good also that we have the most patients in australia which which if you can images from new or were. sounds so you can imagine is that it has yes a religious it is a religious action but it also has a political impact on i absolutely system and also on the iraq glocks because eventually it will say we are seeing you you're still corrupted you're still doing nothing to the people the christians iraqi christians it's also actually 70 the last year there are about $45000.00 families migrate from one over to baghdad.

just to get away from the slaughters of don't dash of isis so all those problems actually corruption unemployment. lack of services all those major problems actually within 17 years nothing's happened so i think the block visit it is it is historic ok also it has some sort of a soft power to have the pressure on all those subjects or all those sectors that are making that the decision makers it's also from that from those that are ok that's interesting use the phrase soft power there qur'an or in innovate when it comes to soft power if the message from the pope to alsa stanny is you can't carry on treating minorities in this country in the way they've been treated clearly the optics here we're talking about christians in iraq how long until al psystar me could or should start signaling to the militia who are going after the christians

still in iraq you've got to stop doing that. in and we don't know a lot left a lot what they are led by talk about. the house i'd like to sunny but sure they where they would talk a lot about how to make and break up peace between the people of all the religion i feel like because it's not about just let me see how it is and the mentality of a lot of people it's. then want to change because of the people they know that christianity it's a stand and said now it. is not a tour of the legion so i think it's there is a lot of message that. a lot of things that that it busy. i think

it's going to be discussed in this meeting but also do so to say for florida law for all. the people that they believe in a lot of. that when believe that oh that shii it's. the mosque important she go in in iraq it's part of a decade she cheated in iraq and saw when the leader has met our what pope and. what spiritual father it's mean that there is no problem between this there were religion but the simple people they had they had to know the states they had to know that there is no difference between we shouldn't we shouldn't kill each other but we should respect when i want to lead out of a disabled child that when they speak up of the peace so also all the people have to do those things if they believe this leaders crystal i'm in london how much of

a productive potentially overlap is there between the 2 religions if we view the 2 religions through the. the prism of these 2 individual men i mean they've both got basically the same kind of belief system at one level and the same kind of personalities have that they're both humble men alsa stanny is paid for out of contributions from the diaspora of shia islam around the world he rents the house he lives in and he pays the rent from donations and he we understand like the pope absolutely believes in the separation of religion from the state and that's the difference between shia islam and what goes on across the border in iran which of course is a theocracy you know i think that's a very important point because of course the catholic church shares that that position about the separation between church and state but of course has only had that position since the 2nd vatican council and in in the mid 1960 s.

it was the great reforming council of the church and so what we're seeing i think is this this new relationship between the church and islam and in particular more moderate thinkers but of course leading figures within the the different faiths and i think that clearly. when we see the pope and artist on it together there is there is a kind of a meeting of minds here and that's why i think this visit and this that that meeting that that the 2 had is so. vitally important and opens up a new era for christian muslim relations in a way that the we haven't seen before and i think also that we have to remember. when it comes to that the church is relationship with with islam there

are and particularly when it comes to the pope and also study there are a number of similarities in the sense that the pope announced on a both or 40 figures that have strong base a strong following and they both have a message that they can get out to their to their people and that's where the impact will will i think come through midrash he in baghdad we're hearing positive noises from the iraqi president directly off the back of this day one into day 2 heading towards day 3 of this trip by the by the pope is iraq at a presidential prime ministerial security services level very keen to be seen to be handling this properly and it goes off glitch free no problems at all because it's kind of like a a watershed moment for iraq that it can do this because it's been such a dangerous country before there were 2 people visits planned in the past and they

were canceled because somebody at the vatican said no it is simply not safe it's not going to happen. well in a pragmatic way yes that's the the alliance between solid and probably the president and the prime minister actually they were works hard to made a successful visit for his holiness in to iraq it's all of us and to send a message to the west is that this alliance between the president and the prime minister can be stronger can be more stronger or let's say can be the most strongest alliance in iraq in a way to say to the to the west is that we can do 'd something in iraq and then at its end there is another message is that it's away from the political blocs we out away from the militia well away from the corrupted persons so that show you how much the president and the prime news some try harder to pull send those messages because you know we all know that we have elections in clover. maybe it was going

to i don't actually but it sure dug this alliance working hard to send those messages to say we haven't we can't meet the future of iraq that we can make the future of the relationship between iraq and the west iraq as our multi-religious country what the of that to can can survive if we stay on power except political message it can be understood and it can be understood in that way and i think it was a very successful visit from the iraqi side what it was very good but a gracious happened and the president and the prime minister actually where the successful of the shelves. in of a clearly everyone involved in the planning of the trip everyone involved in the

filming of the trip the broadcasting of the trip the reporting of the trip wants it to be seen as a success but the historical context of this goes back hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years christians in iraq have always been at an angle at a tangent to the mainstream of religious belief and religion in that part of the world and that aspect of christianity in iraq is not going to change overnight is it if course the presence of christianity in this country it's very very old and we are here from the fair stance or fair scott essentially. we are we are we where about the fierce charitable are by china and 3 yeah to. some for our foreign presence here it's that it's very important. this visit

it's about support this and this there is. and that would be. the christianity also to tell people who are also well that the christianity here it wouldn't it has this this roots and it should be continued to be to be here but of course really we need the pope as. the. dialogue between the religious some discounts faith supported by the know it supported by the. equality all these things it would help the christianity in this this 'd fancy it's going to go off. course there's a lot of media has showed that this is a beauty off the bow wave coming up where the pope when he said i think i reported it was a very very beautiful image if i can see how it turns then those also

all that's when is this this hard money between all the snakes in this country. includes of course the christians for the record all the people of this country and the things of this country we will see the beauty of this country and we hope this visit not just to be. this change of mentality not just to the main entire party so i'm very beautiful image but we want this image whole hog many also. go around all the country all the mentality of the people. to be deceived and this harmony ok crystal i'm in london on that my idea of hominy is this actually in real terms and in real time i guess international recognition of iraq as a country as a sovereign state but on top of that the iraq eat. school of islam as opposed

to. islam across the border in iran which clearly a lot of the rest of the world does have a problem with not least at the moment the united states and that idea of the overlap between religion and state theocracy. well i think. the church and obviously our other actors would like to see islam develop in the way that you point out to you have that separation between religion and state ridge the authority in state of course from the from the catholic churches point of view that's also something that they are pushing but it's also something that's relatively recent you know it's only in the last few decades at the catholic church has come to to that position so it's obviously going to take time but one of the things that the pope and the vatican have repeatedly called for. when it comes to christians in the middle east and in muslim majority countries is for christians to

be recognized as citizens not just to be protected or to be have their security looked after but to be full citizens because as we know christians in iraq have been there from the very beginning the christians in iraq also mentioned in in the bible and in the acts of the apostles that the christians of mesopotamia witnessed the 1st pentecost so. there is from the vatican in the churches point of view a push to have muslim countries recognize that christians are citizens and that they can be part of the coexistence the healthy pluralism of a country and of course it works both ways and when pope francis signed a very important document on human fraternity in 2019 in abu dabi. that document contains

a paragraph saying that the that both minorities in the east and the west with a muslim or christian must be recognized as systems and so it works both ways and the vatican is pushing for. the jurisprudence within islam to recognize minorities as citizens and that's something that can. we draw out from the muslim tradition ok christiane i'm going to put it there because we are heading rapidly towards the end of the program baghdad very very briefly is iraq in effect through the vessel of religion overtaking other countries in the region because it seems to me recognizing religion can be used as a stepping stone into some properly grown up very high powered diplomacy it can really happen if we have the good and the right intentions running carrots especially in niger and eventually we our full impact on the iraqi government on the political will or to have some sort of reforms that can be had

been if not just what a lot so question on the political and i'm sure is that if not jeff will say oh no they will they will end up well with the those bad stories that. they did ok last night i'm going to pause you there as well because i do want to put the last point to cure i'm sure musher in of a at the heart of the story karrar in 30 seconds for me please point presidents and prime ministers meet each other they generally extend a reciprocal invitation what are the chances that the pope has asked alsa stanny to visit him in the vatican do you think and might that actually happen not this year maybe next year or the year after. and then i don't know if he's healthy to help him but they already have a and they opened. this is yeah. i think they already started they suggested to the start of that they are like commissioned i

will or something like that to start with then with no job it's also i'm very important point that it's there it's one of the fruit it's already well it's already done. from this visit is that too often bush this dialogue between niger but he got it's already done. back to pan into it about the visit of course and about the counties it's always open but all the village and all waste everybody it's when you come to a county by the kind they are but if the band. if they if they can and can't gentleman the clock has beaten us as ever on inside story thank you all very much they were our guests today father christopher lamb and i thank you too for watching you can see the show again any time with the website al-jazeera dot com full further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also follow the conversation on twitter at a.j. inside story from the piece it'll be and everyone on the team here in doha thanks

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