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another warning a famine in yemen the united nations says millions of people are at risk and billions of dollars is not required so who will step in to help the people of this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm peter davi yemen is heading towards large scale starvation and could face the world's worst famine in decades the un's warning comes as malnutrition rates hit record highs after years of conflict the

world body estimates more than $16000000.00 yemenis could go hungry this year children are particularly affected with 400000 at risk of severe malnutrition the u.n. has appealed for $3800000000.00 to avert a catastrophe but it says it's only got hoff of what's needed last year and millions of people have not received any food or told the saudi military coalition has been fighting hoofy rebels since it launched its offensive to support yemen's government in 2015 well yemen remains the world's worst humanitarian crisis 80 percent of the population is in need of urgent humanitarian assistance half a 1000000 yemenis live in quotes famine like conditions and 5000000 more are just one step behind them nearly 64 percent of yemen's internally displaced people lack a source of income and access to food poverty is widespread schools and hospitals are barely functioning while tens of thousands have been killed in the conflict.

thank you ok ok let's bring in our guest in aden in yemen we have rio judge mccormack spokeswoman for the norwegian refugee council in stockholm we have after a nasa yemen research or a human rights watch in london we have elizabeth kendall senior research fellow at oxford university is pembroke college ladies welcome to you all riana in aden if i can come to you 1st why does the war in yemen keep on going on for so many years now almost off the radar i would hope that it's not off the radar because i do think that a direct working and stations like our own have been raising the alarm for the last number of years now as we've seen a situation here go from bad to worse and then unbelievably even worse not you can have seen the warnings lately that yemen is facing an imminent famine if something is not time urgently and famine or no famine the terrible reality is that people

are already dying we just don't know the numbers because it's so difficult to connect the data here and we're seeing nutrition stunting an entire population of children that the toll that this is taking on an entire country is very hard to get across at i hope that we are doing a good job of doing us the families that we need are paralyzed and by the conflict continuing nobody can continue to rebuild their lives can't return home or seeing fisherman fond of the seas for seeing our respond off their lands or seeing homes hit again and again we're seeing millions forced out of their homes millions what are net roots roads schools hospitals all being attacked and damaged and now we're in a situation where they say half the population will go hungry he's here is 5000000 people on the brink of famine that means the smallest sell it to him over. for nasser in stockholm would it be as bad as it's been and perhaps as it's going to be

if the country wasn't in effect in a bubble of sealed borders and sealed airspace yes i think even prayer to the conflict yemen was ranked as the poorest out of nation put in many many years so the come to leg 2 with you know it's current contacts where the goal of countries surrounding yemen are coming into the this coalition bombing. yemen for nearly 6 years now while targeting civilian sides it's absolutely having a terrible and packed on the civilian population but i think it's very important to mention that the parties to the conflict have weaponized the economy that is really one of the main factors for the dire humanitarian

situation on the ground so in effect on the ground you find the north yemen and the south yemen are not dealing economy together with the same yemeni currencies so the yemeni currency that is produced in the south you cannot use it in the north because of the split of the central bank in yemen so there are still many factors that are playing a major role and the dire humanitarian crisis but definitely the parties to the conflict have. shorn systematic abusive practices that are contributing to this system of suffered in elizabeth kendall in london is one of the big issues here we're talking about this today because of another warning basically saying the country is on the tipping point of famine we could have said that a year ago or perhaps 2 years ago or. even 3 years ago but the reality is that despite

the consequences of that if we were able to say a state of famine now exists in the country that would focus minds in the region and indeed around the world but we can't say that because you can't pin down the data because the country sealed yes that's exactly the problem here and in fact we're always hearing that yemen is on the brink of famine and yet it never seems to have an actual famine declared that would focus minds much more sharply and the problem is that it's impossible to access the data required to actually declare a famine now we have managed to stave off famine in the past by very generous funding very generous aid before care of it and times when governments were still willing to give aid but at the moment we can't declare a famine because there's not enough data although we can see that children and that civilians are starving and at the same time aid is being dramatically cut it

was astonishing to see at the beginning of march that the u.n. appeal for just under $4000000000.00 didn't even reach harf of its target now understandably countries around the world have other things to worry about they have a pandemic at home but if we could only get the data to declare a famine i am sure countries would be more generous and it would be a wake up call to the whole world coming back to reanimate in aden there is there another unique aspect to the war in yemen and is this you've got 3000000 internally displaced people if it was and i use the word hesitantly a normal conflict in the middle east a big percentage of those $3000000.00 wouldn't be internally displaced they would be displaced across neighboring borders they were. i'd take their stories with them and they would make people feel very very uncomfortable so regionally there would

have to be a reaction so in that regard there's no strong momentum of a reaction here because those people are being made to feel awkward because they're not looking at pictures of hundreds of thousands perhaps millions of people having to live in refugee camps across the border. it's a really interesting point that you raise in my my apartment is ation is called the norwegian refugee council and typically the people that we help are refugees if led to other countries in search of safety yemen is i wouldn't say unique because there's a similar situation at play in certain parts of syria but it is certainly. normal it's a good word because we have $4000000.00 people $4000000.00 out of a population of $30000000.00 been displaced from their homes which is a small word for a an incredibly traumatic event it means people have fled often with no warning often taking nothing with them and but as you said they plan to other parts of the country and i think one of the striking things that i've seen here is how much

yemeni people have been helping each other they have been seeing the needs they have been sharing food with neighbors they have been taking people in as one family that we talked to who were taken in by another family but themselves were living in tattered tents but they made room for this other family to come in so yemeni people themselves have shown incredible 42 years over the last 60 years of this escalated over but they're at the end of their resources now they are exhausted money exchange against the dollar now is a quarter of it was what it was before the port food prices have doubled jobs have been lost and their posts and it will who formerly had steady incomes regular jobs respective jobs are now out begging on the streets i'm talking to my colleagues who are seeing the fear in our streets and we have these pockets of you having 3 districts i'm really glad that elizabeth brought up some of the issues surrounding the difficulty declaring a famine. basically that at any point by the time famine is declared it is already

too late the technical definition of famine is that there has to be a certain number of people already dying we are saying and we need to act now this is the last opportunity we have to stave off mass scale famine in this country it is already breaking out in 3 districts there are already 50000 people who are living in famine like conditions we cannot afford to wait. and for a nurse or in stockholm does your heart sink in the way that i suspect elizabeth's does when you you realize or you have to engage with the reality of the aid budgets being cut around the world i don't know what it's like in sweden i don't know how much sweden contributes to the aid budget for yemen but in the u.k. boris johnson's government in the past 24 hours confirming they are literally cutting in half what they are giving to yemen even if it could get there in the 1st place half that money is simply not going to be on the table. look that can i just

follow up on some of the points that the other speakers mentioned i think for me it's it's there is no use and just waiting for the famine to be declared i think it's very important to take action now we already have so many indicators we already have a report after another after another about the violations that the abuse of international aid and what aid workers are experiencing obstacles harassment and other abuses so what i'm just wondering what the world that international community is waiting for are they waiting for yemenis to not like not be able to battle the church each other to be as as kelton as all the the little children that we see there there are graphic images dying and starving on camera like i'm just. i'm running out of words it's just what what are we waiting for we've had so many

reports where talk to you and humanitarian officials saying that we will see a famine that we've never seen before in the history before it leg of what we will see in yemen so it's just it's shocking shocking the moral responsibility of the international community sweden the u.k. the gulf rich countries have a huge border responsibility that the yemenis livelihood have been targeted systematically under the conflict the farmer is the fisherman. the commercial trade businesses all of them have been completely targeted and shoved out so this is a man made a humanitarian disaster and it is just shocking why what the word waited for like do they really want to see a complete fall out. famine any and then and then they will take an action it's

just shocking elizabeth cohen live in london are the aid agencies and other people of yemen maybe waiting for a touch of clarity here from countries that have got more leverage inside yemen than other countries have got and yet we have to offset that against the reality which is that so many countries they're not turning their back on yemen but they are turning away from yemen i think the reality is just as bad as a fraud has described but the reality for 4 potential donor countries is that they do have their own concerns to worry about and yemen is just slipping down the agenda we hate it we think it's wrong but that is a reality now what i might say is that if they cannot stump up the aid that's required then at least they could stump up a bit more political will to solve the crisis in yemen because. of course

no matter how much aid you throw at yemen it's not going to actually solve the underlying problems it's a bit like trying to put out a wildfire with a bucket of water you can keep the flames at bay but ultimately it's the war that needs to end and everybody recognizes that now ok i actually have to stop the humanitarian crisis you have to stop war ok let me if i can boil that down into another kind of formulated question to after a africa you were nodding there listening to elizabeth in london stopping the war in yemen well i want to say good luck with that one because it seems to me you've basically got you've got 3 conflicts you've got the government in exile you've got the who sees and you've got people that want the southern half of the country to be independent so you've got all the external actors who want to put it back to what it used to be 567 years ago but maybe that's not the best plan for yemen in the

1st place. you know the other day i was thinking about this and tweeting like the biden administration might be able to end the saudi war and yemen but who would it end with the war on yemenis it's the the war has fragmented the country into so many pieces and with the military offensive on an. advance on matter of for example this is a major chapter of the in many conflicts even iran is reporting there are reports coming from iranian news websites how even iran consider this as a decisive battle and a conflict in yemen so you have all these parties really playing a major role in how how this war will end and what kind of yemen we will see but it's very very important to find any solution that will end the human

tatty and support it on the ground and i think for the biden administration and even the u.s. there are so many u.n. in boys today trying to solve the conflict but nothing has been translated into concrete steps today we only see an escalation of violence but there is no it's clayton of solutions and this is what is mistake and for sure without a finding a political solution or an end to the conflict we will never find an end to the humanitarian crisis in aden would you agree with that that it's not so much at some level that we're at one level i guess a war in yemen as a war on yemen and what joe biden we've already to touch on this what joe biden came up with on february the 4th is ok but it maybe doesn't go beyond symbolism but was really more effective was when the trumpet ministration said we are stepping

back from doing midair refueling in 2018 that had more of an impact on the people who are involved in the air campaigns over in the skies of yemen. and there it's at this complex there are very complicated and do lyra's in yemen to a large part mean we talk about the escalation of the war starting 6 years ago when the saudi let coalition became involved but the conflict had begun in other parts of the country many years before that so it's definitely a local conflict but it has also this involvements you've seen in the nature of the satellite coalition that navigations that iran has been supporting answer otherwise known as the who these so the 2 parts are coming together and the question of whether there is a likelihood that this war can be brought to an end i really don't think we have a choice i don't think anybody wants a famine of historic proportions on their hands and as africa has pointed out this is a manmade humanitarian crisis there would be no famine warning in yemen if it is not

for this conflict i think we saw a small glimmer of hope last year with the exchange of political prisoners which was agreed was the 1st positive step in a long time it shows that are there is some consensus that can be built upon and there are the efforts of the un led to peace process that are doing enormous work at the moment to try and bring out what is happening in morrow to the attention of the international community and we are calling upon the un security council to take an active role in this we do believe that this war can be ended we believe that the 1st step could be an immediate famine prevention cease fire and then there are all steps in place to start was a negotiation of political solution a military solution has been tried for the last 6 or 8 years of this war and we've seen the absolutely dire consequences elizabeth can live in london but kind of is a perfect portray it of all the negatives and all the variables here we've seen the

u.n. envoy recently in tehran for 2 days and 3 nights we don't know what came out of that conversation. so that's that's a conduit of communication that is a requirement because if you're going to have a peace process the peace process has got to include all the people all the time and on top of that the united states basically needs to get the saudis into a different place surely as well so it needs to get rio to accept that it's got to do a conjuring trick and go from being gamekeeper oil when you say conjuring trick that really sums it up we have a war that's been involved at 3 different levels now we have the international level the international community we have the regional level in particular saudi arabia u.a.e. . also to some extent oman and of course iran and then we also have the

domestic level and all of those levels need to be resolved in order for the conflict to be resolved ultimately it's going to have to be up to the yemeni people one can peel away the different layers the different international layers but still the conflict with domestically generated and it will need to be domestically result now that that's easier said than done obviously but before we launch into criticize the biden administration because as you say it's very complex as soon as one says well as long as he tackles saudi then the rest will then need to be tackled to he can't do everything it wants what needs to happen. is that. a space is created virus ceasefire for all the different groups to be then dealt with to actually start to create the conditions for peace consultations as reassess as after all says a cease fire is absolutely imperative for us to prevent starvation and famine and

then perhaps they'll be the space for peace talks in stockholm last word to you is there another aspect to this 6 years of death and destruction that presidents and prime ministers and u.n. ambassadors perhaps don't get they like simple conflicts they like countries invaded we go in we bomb we pull out back to the status quo but the reality is with yemen you've got more than 230000 people dead 3000000 at least displaced 2000000 who may be displaced in the coming few months from the memory area 3000 children dead but they weren't killed by a bomb they weren't killed by a bullet they've lost their lives because hospitals are bombed schools of bombed roads of bombed infrastructure is destroyed and that is something that the peacemakers can't really get a handle on. i just wish any actor from the international

community or the policymakers are decisive thing the site then what's happening and then just to live one day in yemen without electricity without water without having salary without knowing where when your next meal will come from where and how it's just life has become unbearable for millions millions of civilians and i keep repeating saying no justice no peace it's so important to stress on this fact as as elizabeth was talking about how we need a multi-dimensional solution to the conflict but i think it's also very important to listen to how we yemenis themselves justice for them will eventually prevail prevail it's not only about the casualties of the human cost that are counted but there are uncounted the human cost and the conflict in yemen and it's very very

important to compensate all abuse victims and really without with that doing justice and and achieving accountability we will just continue being into this cycle of violence brianna just mccormack very last point to you in the next 30 seconds if we are not to use the word famine because we can't and it's maybe an irrelevance anyway to the reality on the ground how do we focus minds on what's going on inside the country. this is a preventable catastrophe that has been unfolding in slow motion for years and is about to hit a point that will be difficult for the country to recover from and i think that will stain the conscience of the world for many years to come ladies a thought provoking conversation thank you so much for talking to us here on inside story of they were our guests they were real to judge mccormack and elizabeth

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