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the i didn't think about it so i don't know yet but it made me think yeah yeah if elected christine i'm in the list not yet allowed to work as a member of parliament as she is under age her seat would go to the next candidate on the list visiting the parliament building for the 1st time she can't wait for the day her career in politics get started step fasten al-jazeera the hague. get when they catch up on our website al-jazeera dot com. top stories around syria germany france and italy have all suspended use of the astra zeneca vaccine as concerns grow over blood clots more than a dozen nations have now stopped giving out the job the world health organization says monitoring systems are working and urged countries not to stop vaccination as the drug firm insists it is still safe the european union's medicines regulator is
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set to hold a meeting out of nearly 5000000 people who receive the jab in europe a total of 30 cases of adverse blood clotting have been reported this does not necessarily mean this events are linked to vaccination but it's routine practice to investigate them and it shows that the surveillance system works and effective controls are in place doubly true advisory committee on vaccine safety has been reviewing very little data is in close contact with the european medicines agency and will meet to morrow. 10 years since the start of the uprising in syria protesters are again showing their anger on the streets thousands of people turned out across several rebel held city as the uprising began as antigovernment protests went through the region but seriously it into civil war the conflict has caused one
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of the world's worst humanitarian crises with more than half of the population displaced. 3 primary school teachers have been abducted in the north of nigeria gunmen on motorbikes stormed the school and couldn't estate north of a budget none of the children are missing is the latest in a rash of attacks on schools in the area students from a forestry college near the state capital who were taken on thursday a still missing. in myanmar parents holding funerals for their children after the deadliest day since the start of the crew at least 50 protesters were killed on sunday that hasn't stopped the resistance continuing demonstrators defied martial law again on monday 6 more people were killed when the military responded with live fire there's the top stories to stay with us the stream is up next i'll be back with more news for you straight after that thanks for watching.
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7 ok it has been 10 years since a people's uprising in syria tied into a full blown war some of these images you see back here are shocking but what is even more shocking is that they are. may not be moving us as much as they did 10 years ago and that is an issue about syria do people really care around the world today we've been together on the stream syrian voices syrians to talk about the past 10 years and what they hope for the future we start with katie
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i think people around the world engage was a sin and coffee and they're in different ways and now they are disengaging for different reasons 1st some people english because of islam a whole big get it yours and others are for that offer i says ours as i make states they are now this in. a 2nd some people guess because of the true also of the n.t. end their embassy and after 10 years of conflict it's was because and yesterday's compassion fatigue and said because i was i'm going governor i didn't there but i make a lot of you but as a world are focusing on the suffering of their own communities and the communities like in syria we're joined on today's episode by merriam daughters ahead and also it is good to see you omarion tell everybody who you are and what you do
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hi everyone thank you for having me on the show i am mary m. jenner b. i am their representative of the syrian opposition coalition to their interactive nation i have been working with the united nation in the name of the syrian opposition for the last 10 years i am also a co-founder of the syrian women's political movement which i am very keen to always highlight and talk about the need for gender equality in all the work that we do because there will be no democracy and freedom and justice without including people and society in the decision making. is a regular guest on the stream to talk about syria welcome back door to tell everybody remind everybody you are what you do. thank you very for having me and i'm a physician my specialty is a critical care medicine practice in chicago 'd but they're also i had an organization called 'd medic lobola 'd where so what we support health care in disaster areas like yemen gaza strip but like there is today as you know you're on
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colombia and syria or syria is my homeland and i just returned from syria a few days ago 'd. medical mission to north syria to address the issue of corbett thank you for having me at the. alley and nice to see you tell our audience while i fared pretty very clear my name is i am alec on your moronic and i direct the international reporting concentration in the new markets go journalism at the city university of new york and i am also the author of a book on syria the home that was our country and i write about syria as a country and wherever its people have gone to most recently i have a series that runs the new york times magazine about the same syrian refugees that i travelled with from greece to to northern europe and i've been following their lives for the past 6 years and plan to for the next 4 thank you so much and if you watch it on you tube you know what you can do we have a comment section you can jump right into the comments section and be part of
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today's program at delta he said you were in syria just recently if you could give us a sense of where is the conflict right now what did you see that what's that syria is tied. to a conflict. well syria is still in crisis it's still in conflict and fortunately the 6000000 refugees are still refugees in the neighboring countries and lebanon in jordan and turkey on iraq and other places there is a large number of refugees in europe and the displaced people in syria are still the displaced out of the population 11000000 people are displaced i was an adlib province which is controlled by the opposition and it has 4200000 people have of them been displaced from other regions in syria or from from there is or there are the masters although in other places aleppo 'd of course and they there is no future for them one of 1200000 of them live in camps and then the camps
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1250 camps i visited one of the camps met with. a child her name is as mark i met with her also last year and the people that this placement she was this place with her family 7 times before she ended in a camp near it live city and last year i asked her what she wants she wants to be in the future and she told me that she wants to be a doctor this time if she's not going to school because she has to work with her family to earn a living and this is unfortunate because what's happening in syria is affecting a whole generation of children it started the syrian crisis started with children calling for freedom and 55000 of them have been killed since the beginning of the crisis their life expectancy was cut down by 13 years in the 10 years of conflict and they're still you still are the main victims of the crisis and unfortunately the international community does not have a solution for them to end this crisis and move towards peace and justice mariam al
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audience on you tube are asking this question what are they fighting for this comes from talk of. oh fighting whatever the syrian fighting for is that the question. yeah. i think i've been a lawyer from but when you live in any democratic country in the world you're expected to go every number of years to go vote for a new president a new government and to a new representative for your government we don't want to we did not have that right and we don't have that right in syria many people like myself had my family was forced to leave the country because. the oppression and the lack of freedoms in the country where so strong that my dad had been in prison 5 times you have to flee the country. so people came out in the streets 10 years ago asking for change to that kind of oppressive regime that we have in syria it's been ruled
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by the assad regime the father and now the son and there is no freedoms of any sorts of people came out on the streets to ask for dignity and freedom and respect and democracy and they were faced by guns by military force by planes by barrel bombs by everything possible to just stop them from coming out to the street to demand their basic rights that any people in any democratic country how. as adults are speaking he was shaking your head what was going on as you were hearing some of what he was saying down on the ground in syria right now are just thinking about the immense amount of trauma that it syrians are facing individually and then collectively and. you know i think we underestimate what you know when you speak you know the children in remote. you
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know children are quite literally the future and i just think how can you build a future oron. you know point is generation with this generation by this generation when the trauma is so immense and there isn't really a possibility to to remediate it by asking for for justice or accountability you know even even before the the last 10 years which was sort of the 5th decade of the assad regime which was resign him unleashed. brutal brutal violence that was visible and tangible there you know the regime the 1st for decades had also been violent granted in the kind of violence that is harder to see but the threat of arbitrary detention disappearance kept everybody quite in check and and i think a lot of what we saw in the last 10 years was sort of in part the result of. you know a society that had been traumatized for decades already and i just and that translated in many ways into an inability to sort of actual lives or to actually as
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a kind of future that i think people came out onto the streets for and i you know i just you know i'm working closely with refugees as a board member. organization of women and also as a journalist in the people and i sit with people and hear how they're trying to rebuild their lives and the obstacles are immense and the inability to have any kind of justice or accountability i think just compounds that level of trauma and violence people have been forced to live with that it's just devastating i can just follow up on what that he has mentioned and. michel of the maria you know right now we're witnessing in my own martyr what would happen in syria in years ago where you have the mystery there is asking for you know freedom for democracy and the army their main mar army is meeting them with snipers who are shooting at them and today they killed about 30 or 50 people demonstrators that have been in syria for 9
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months where the you have peaceful demonstration 'd is there is him asking for the same freedom that we enjoy in the west in the united states and europe and other places and there were they were met by snipers and by the army and you know eventually people carried arms to britain to protect themselves to to protect their families and communities from mass rape from displacement from snipers from people coming to the hospitals to pull out patients from then there's of carrying it from torture you know we're talking about a scale of torture that we have never witnessed in recent memory 200000 people disappeared in syria 88000 of them were tortured to death by the assad regime 600000 people were killed which is 2.7 percent of the population this is largest than any other conflict. so the scale of that dry cities that happen in syria displacement of the population 12000000 people is unheard of since the 2nd world
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war the scale of the psychological trauma on children is unheard of if you know every child in syria is growing without a certain future and that's adding to the drama of displacement and violence that they have witnessed so this is something that has to force the international community to react you know the fact that we're not seeing syria in the media is very painful for us not only because we are syrian but because this is never been witnessed by the war in the in the past the war used to injure being to stop atrocities in syria for some reason we're turning the other way and this is not helpful because it will come back to haunt us at one point justice will prevail but what happened in syria is making the whole world then there if you sentiment and the immigrant sentiment the rise of terrorism the right of it goob and populism all of this is happening in europe and in the united states in reaction to the syrian crisis but for some reason we're not connecting that are the people are not connecting the dots and policymakers especially the leaders of the united states
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president biden and before him trump and obama turn the other way from this crisis that they're affecting us let me stress and questions for you friends from our own separate is i really want to talk to you and it's so rare that we get all syrians to talk to our own has a cache and wants to marry a map my purpose wanting it i want to ask what is the u.n. security council u n h r c that's the refugee organization of the united nations doing to handle the situation many questions why but if you could answer this one for flavia from that the security council has 5 permanent members and 10 nonpermanent members who are elected every 2 years so i don't the 5 permanent members they have the veto power to stop any kind of resolution that comes out of the security council that is an international car international. action there have been 15 resolutions about where put forward on syria to create some kind of. on the ground whether it was
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humanitarian or on accountability or on any political process and china and china and the russia russia has betul best 15 times so there is a very strong element that is supporting this or was on a mild heart element like another dictatorship or another region that's supporting this process that the regime has taken on of killing its own people this war against the people that makes it very difficult to do anything through the security council this is either i want to talk about you all alluded to this and this is the sense of accountability where is the accountability. you talked about the dreadful statistics of the people who have died. this is a tragedy in modern times and we talked to syrians about where it is the accountability where is that have a listen have a look we cannot talk about political transition or reagan solution we don't all do
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those who completely lucian's from move sides accountable including yourself with no doubt every future and if they do want is the to question your brezik we really need to be looking at both state and non-state actors and we need to design a kind of delivery process so that it centers the most culpable what would be the assad regime. but accountability shouldn't also shouldn't be just on the most culpable it should be for every party and every person that participated in war crimes. so there is. a process a legal process going on in germany right now tell us more about that where do you feel the accountability may well be. well you're referring to the trials in copeland's in germany where 2 members of the one who's
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quite senior the other quite junior have been put on trial and the verdict has come down against the junior member but ironically both of these men are men who defected from the regime and in the case of the junior the general have put out a member he was giving his testimony to to the german authorities for it to make his asylum case that he knew asylum because he was in danger for having defected from the regime and it was in those interviews that the german police and the german state realised he had actually been an active member of the hot and he went for a refugee asking for asylum to defendant and now he is he has been sentenced to 4 years to which have been served for his participation in crimes against humanity the more senior members trial will will take longer and so yes and our own bunny is a friend and the syrian lawyer who is one of the few people i actually speak to who remains hopeful and in general so the question is you know a lot of people put
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a lot of stake in the in getting a guilty verdict and other people didn't and people have been surprised you know there are some people for whom they didn't think they'd be much satisfaction in in a junior member having a guilty get a guilty verdict and have found themselves in fact quite you know finding some kind of catharsis in it while others who are hoping for her to have that catharsis didn't it's going to be a very individual reaction aren't on many levels but in terms of like true accountability you know the greatest the greater greatest perpetuators of the perpetrators of violence remain in power in syria so we're talking about accountability that we should also talk about impunity and to just pick up on dr saad who's point from earlier in terms of the messaging that goes to the rest of the world when they see what happened what happened in syria i watched. watch the news from hong kong for me now are from there a ruse from russia and for those rulers who but want to be able to act with
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impunity there is a quite a bottle in syria that not only won't enjoy this kind of immunity this impunity eventually the world will normalize your presence and you know the message that sent to the young people i mean our or in belarus is that you must be willing to either pay with your life or with exile if you want to speak out because the world is not necessarily going to stand with you know a fear if your country has imposed a sort of natural resource interest to the rest of the world you know exactly and on this same point some some people may think accountability only affects the syrian people and i think all of us agree that without accountability transitional justice we will not move to into a national reconciliation the return of the refugees reconstruction and peace in syria that happen in all other crises 'd like syrian crisis we need other accountability but also lack of accountability killing doctors and nurses and bombing hospitals without 'd accountability that means other regime will do the
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same and that happened using chemical weapons 330 times in syria by the assad regime that means other regime will use chemical weapons and we've seen that done by north korea by assassinating someone with with 'd chemical weapon by russia assassinating 2 of its citizens by using chemical agents so a lot of accountability will take the whole war if we keep blind eye on what's happening in syria chime it with that hasn't been one of the hospitals that he i work with him is a built in inside the cave for protection of hospitals because 580 hospitals were bombed in syria he was killed while at u.t. in his hospital because he's serving his community 940 doctors in theirs as were killed in syria and there is no accountability. guest if i may and i because i'm going to squeeze in one more thought if i may because we spoke to so many syrians
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and they shared their thoughts with us all video as well as you generous and sharing your thoughts with us live right now. also about what was a big advance that really were milestones for them over the last 10 years and this is what they told us 10 years of this hearing evolution the support of the syrian of pollution the government have got used to the fall of the bleachers and for the photos that we have heard from d.c. a field day pictures of 2 women the pictures of the children and. i think everybody and everybody that have if you bring in the scene destruction i think they have to be i don't i don't think someone could forget about the crimes being committed in syria starting from yet tanks on the peaceful protest to the paradigm's attacks and the chemical weapons attacks 100000 of victims millions of refugees unable you know with the picture of syria bashar al assad and
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his allies russia and iran guess we have just a few minutes left for the end of the show it's extraordinary how much days to talk about syria and how little and how seldom we do so would you very swiftly finish your thought and then tell us one milestone that you want to share with us from the last decades of the syrian conflict sky has. i wanted to actually it was so nice that to hear what the activists have been saying is that one thing that we sometimes find in the media where they're talking about how it's a complicated crisis people like look at it all and like from afar you know syrians killing syrians and there is this confusion about what might be happening on the ground in syria and that some natural disaster or really like are so evil or where you have you know because of ethnic background or religious background where people are fighting together what we have in syria is a dictatorship that's killing its own people all over 90 percent of the atrocities
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that have taken place in syria the main reason for why people are leaving the country the refugee crisis all of the humanitarian crises that is on the ground it is handmade by the regime itself the region has besieged now we don't talk about these things but the regime at some point was beseeching millions of people refusing to have a deliveries go to them because they want to so far here submit to their to is there is it possible to has a moment that for you is a searing moment for the last decade as i am going to give on to the co-pilot's because we're at the end of the show to you have a moment was it the overall this is a manmade classes that you want to leave us with there's so many moments so many moments i mean like there are so many more people coming out this week until today people coming out and celebrating the 10th anniversary of the revolution to me when i see all of these videos when i see children and women and young man and everybody you know holding the flags of the revolution coming out that all of the feed that
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i'm getting on my facebook all of the fuel getting on that i'm getting from friends it's amazing that we share when we share the conversation with go ahead pick one moment. well i'm going to pick a bit of a downer moment for me and i was inside syria at this time and this is sort of it was a turning point for me it was the the miter hamza healthy be young boy who were gonna test with this family his 30 year old all was detained tortured to death castrated burn marks and and that's that's all par for the course in trying to and should but i was stunned that the syrian regime sort of put out a news program showing how you know it was it was one of the 1st big news programs i can think of sort of showing communicating that. trying to pretend all these were post-mortem injuries that they hadn't happened in the custody of the regime and i came to understand that this was a way where there's sort of high threats in plain sight to sort of frighten all of
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us with why what could happen to us or toward children should we should we descend and that was a very unsophisticated example of descent from nation and fake news and yet has very much characterized what has happened in the last 10 years and in many ways answers your question as to why folks don't care in part because it disagrees kind of december mation campaigns that were maliciously insidiously put out have managed to confuse people as to who the real threat is what the truth is and makes it easier to be apathetic into 3 arms up and say i just don't know. we we would need a whole week of programs on syrian that's not a bad idea but for now i'm going to share with you the twitter handles the social media platforms of our various different guests just as a whole so who is here on twitter you can find him 24 hours 70 might know we're fighting 24 hour 7 but he's very committed this is
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a twitter handle and this is merriam's twitter handle i'm going to leave you with the voices of syrians reflecting on the last 10 years of conflict in their country and so watching everybody see an x. time. the regime has government to do no thousands of crimes under the eyes of the who without doing anything from anyone in my. crisis because they are focusing. on how to destroy the soon to be ball and how to steal this union or the other is a journey worth as i think people are feeling hopeless helpless they don't know which is the best way to help the syrian people you think that conflict is so complex so you don't know how to engage how to hold the syrian people the conflict is not complex sobre gene killing. civilians who protest and asking for freedom for crimes against civilians are ongoing tens of thousands of detainees are still
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