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hi anthony ok you're watching the stream on today's episode what happens when a president reaches the end of his charm but no election has been caught that is a question that the politicians in somalia right now are wrestling with take a look behind me this is president mohammad of belief a macho his term in office ended officially in february but yet no election date has been set what does that in terms of an impact in somalia we got in politics and also the people you are invited to be part of this discussion you can do so by
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jumping into the comments section and you tube you to be in the story. joining us to talk about elections in somalia or the lack of elections in somalia we have mohammed we have a hard than we have severe a good to see you have a tell everybody who you are what you do. are you part of the bill. there are bottom line or. you belong to your bill and. you're going to be armand by your own members. government oh my young. people mario thank you for doing that on our show today appreciate you all that nice to see you introduce yourself to our global audience. thank you frank thank you for having me on the
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show my name is harden id and a medical and humanitarian acts and also co-founder of the now a women's movement in somalia to ensure women's political participation is ensured in this election process thanks for joining us welcome to the stream samir and tell everybody here what a day it is a am some irrigated i'm a national security practitioner of the horn of africa since 22 album worked in different capacities in somalia in the immediate form our principal security advisor to the prime minister who just left our house and on the high road and i've been a special advice or to 3 heads of army some so i'm currently in d.c. at the moment pursuing national fellowship with the national defense university so we're at how is it possible that an election date has not only not been set but the election has not been held in somalia what's been happening. i think we're all equally dumbfounded i mean we've always known. this brinkmanship and they
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act in this manner sometimes and we always know that when they come around the table they will agree but this is the 1st time that you find a monday it was expired and there's no agreement on the table which is really really strange a new it's a really mystified the somali people we're all expecting that you know the leaders will come together come around the table but what's been most difficult is just even coming together the message just a few a few times have not met as as a member times you should have considering the martyrs about steak i know the leaders are all in mogadishu for some big conference but let's see how that goes there is no agreement on our agenda so we can't even open the meeting or like it is confusion everywhere i'm going to say a little timeline everybody so we can see what happened sadly as we were creeping closer and closer and closer to the end of the president's mandate so let's start on february the 6 talks between the government and state leaders on how to administer elections well those talks they broke down several of the 8th president
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hametz term expired the opposition leaders saying they would no longer recognize his presidency than a sub with a 19th opposition protesters came under attack from government forces while marching in mogadishu and this happened hours after overnight fighting between government forces and armed opposition guards so now almost a month later how i think you have news for us about the opposition organizing and you sent us a couple of pictures you can tell us what's happening in these pictures right here this was just hours before you came on air with us what is happening here. i thought. there were experts. and a pimp that needed come together and tried to agree in the pertinent monday. and in february a few. people know that. i have been in there.
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some. of them are. there that were not agreements up an. election. acumen now that. the problems with britain ended in the old agreement and there were. several times in. the lab going with. the couple. that ended up with out of any agreement what i liked and some that's the part what's the problem. the problem is that i think of the role of government and britain and it was trying to make things very tough. because in one particular profit that one had brought there and the people wanted to a lot of wealth there so it would make things very difficult come together now if you did that eliminate the britain of the land and the burden of the wounded and if
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. you'd been hard on it and of the airport we'd given them. and just let me just get that doesn't i wonder what the absolute silence at that so there was a meeting at the airport early on today and how did that meeting go. that may actually end up. on the publishing. council which are actually. mixed together. neither. leader. on the. parliament. so it being. a group you do. not know. but they decided that the best theme to actually rejected him that people were sort of hot and just how to help me out here make sure that i'm nonsensical and so
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this meeting this person was to organize opposition to the president help me out he didn't do that i understand this correctly this is the opposition organizing. it's not being put the car back how do you know not to get you're not. absolutely correct and today's meeting was really a collection of the opposition team coming together in a collectively voicing their concerns and demanding a different way forward must be charted consists of the position of candidates coming together the council of presidential candidates the president of the land and the president put in and and the members. leading somebody in their constituents. so really all fish of the. you know they've
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gathered today to sort of coalesce their voice whereas before. this this platform was not created but it really speaks to. the level of crisis political crisis that we're in we're not been in this situation before as senator and both. have mentioned very. in the fact that you know even where the meeting was being held is 'd quite significant inside the airport which is. within the green zone under the u.n. bent and that stems to the back of trust between the fragile member states and opposition groups and also and the federal government i'm just a quick the politics is not very easy to digest but sort of give you a coles notes. somalia is a is a fragile state it has 5 member states in the federal government 2 of the states japan and put names have been sort of disagreements throughout the last 3 years
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with about half of the current administration's tenure coupled with now. coalition with the. presidential aspirants of this year's election coming together now to sort of form one voice 2 suits. to kind of show their dissent but also to send messages across the board. that things must change and the governments must hold fair and fair and actions in time to actually english past the time but it's never too late so now i want to play a play to voices to you one is the president's voice as we have a voice is the voice of opposition this is from early february and you can hear the political differences the president is saying one thing the opposition is saying another thing i would love you to intel put it for us this have unless.
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i'm telling you that there is foreign interference in the national election process in somalia in general or in. president himself is the main impasse the elections it is not under any question it is clear the president of the federal government is responsible for all problems because he wants to rig the election for the for the. samir. yes i think that's indicative of the polarization currently in somalia and i think i've been mentioned something very interesting she said that the lack of trust between the stakeholders and i think that's the biggest thing that is missing from this electoral process that was present in previous electoral process and i mean we've always had challenges with governance and disagreement over electoral processes but over the past 8 years our political leaders have managed to come together and agree when it's time to agree and have the interests of the somali people at heart but what you have is 2 sides that are so far apart and speaking such different languages if you were to speak to those in going to
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somalia right now they would tell you the president has conceded so many times he was for one person one vote to let go of that he was for 300 electors delegates are m.p. that they're now 101 i mean they list the number of times his const the conceded and on the other side when you speak to the opposition they said that was agreed a concession one person one vote was never really possible in the 1st place so i mean we're so far apart and there has to be a party that comes in between that's my belief and unfortunately they simply more trust right now when the president of his time expired on the eve of february there's been no agreement on the implementation of the february of the september 17th agreement and to top it off there's no urgency for stakeholders to come together and agree that a lack of urgency is i think the the most disturbing thing 8 february came and went and there's no discussion on the opposition's part they say you know his mandate expired the constitution is clear knowledge a solution supersedes constitution on the president's parties he speaks of
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agreement that was signed by the parliamentarians and the speaker of the upper house that legitimizes his state and any other leaders stay until a new government comes into play when the ultimate thing is somalis we think we're all holding our breath waiting for this process to end we have quit to deal with we have the insurgency. but he's still you know wrecking our country so there's so much more to do than just politic and we just wish to get on with it i. i want to share with you guess some of the you tube conversation that you are generating because it is divided and i want you to instantly react to some of this reaction and harder and hold on and also samir. omar we don't need dictatorship our acts made for marjoe time is up as a president mohammed quickly briefly respond. and it might actually mention the really problem that needed to be actually and
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then our truck and truck never been given proper. and the pregnant. actually. you can meet the people. with the action that even pick an option that you are. not pregnant you know they'd like call it a bit difficult so you have the the. help they need this all dictator in somalia. and would not if there be theater the plotters were going on what are clearly gradually changing we need to continue in order to stand for a while if and. only can come. through and go in together agreed one ok lad i'll get a move on differences of opinion here hard i'm going to give you these 2. and will
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be our president all others are traitors and one boy here we are behind so marjah 100 percent that's from nomadic impression you can hear the blade going on in the you tube comments right now is that what's happening in somalia down on the ground absolutely and that's you know the plan lies ation that samir has referenced read like one side you know it's we don't want dictator and the other side is we're behind the president in that the rhetoric that you just read and i think it's really speaks to the threats of. a serious impasse that could lead some money in the wrong direction that we have you know a population that has been that's becoming law poor poor eyes every day and all too mentally we don't have a man who lit. consensus i mean the fact that you know the president's demise and that it's nothing. is had it has happened before but what has always happened is
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the leadership the staples have been able to find common ground to work together is a president still president even though his time as a spy a yammie yeah i hear it's a president still president if this time has expired can you hear me i mean we have to samir so america is the president still hasn't right to health even though his term has expired. i know they this is a this brings up brings up a lot of debate but in my opinion i don't think so up to a very things have changed and there has to be a political agreement that legitimises his take and that's what is missing is them coming around the table. you know formalizing this extended stay because they are nothing without constitutionality we have to be bound by the rule of law and the constitution is clear it's a 4 year term and before your time ended but the fact that we continue on i think it's really deeply disturbing and then i think no one else has mentioned the violence of 19th of february really stalk the tensions and the and the cause of our
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dictatorship and that's really what's got everyone up in arms and then for the 1st time in the decade you will see that there's a general feeling of regression when it comes to the state building point project last time people were talking about dictatorship a return to civil war you know state of collapse i've been in somalia from 2012 and was always electoral process is what emotive but people were excited and they were always excited for change but now you see you know a dictatorship being talked about a militarized election we saw the tanks coming out and we don't have very many of them so the tanks coming out for the for the. for the demonstrations recently so i think i'm with the population will be rejected and with particular we have too many problems and we just like this to to come to a close soon samir mohamed mentioned some of those problems al-shabaab. still seeing those attacks there some food insecurity issues covert 19 is always lurking wherever we are in the world it is pretty much locking in the background
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exasperating any issues that we currently have from your consistence from your people that you are representing mohamed how are they coping with this this instability regarding what will happen regarding the presidency and elections. this is an example. it really can turn everybody can turn to our. pathetically when it comes to the blue book rag that get. to. the al-shabaab. getting better chance or include themselves employ thing in the society. in the among them going to short of the what the bubbling did the jobs collecting now people are paying double tax it's a very dangerous and we're getting into us. to the very wrong direction and.
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the international community. they need somalia a lot of in a lot of attention to make sure somalia get done and we're going to achieve in east africa and particularly somalia. the libya. where the. ended because they're independent are concerned that they're into painting a war because we understand the. diplomatic broadly the big power the diplomatic the luxury yet the how they put pressure on revenue i think with other with the concern. and they're coming very very very big so hard and he's back with us that's great to have me back i want to play this teen heart and i'm really intrigued by your response this is professor. talk about the main issues right now and get into a solution get into an election date have
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a listen. mistrust is the main reason behind this election selection processes and this is a rooted in the way the government to manage it previous dispensations of previous election is also the way the for the nobody states behaved or acted in the past as though they are independent states in terms of security judiciary and economic obviously this woman is the no 'd. so will arise to the extent that these institutions have been criticised and finally i think it would have it all legitimacy impact on the whole system. as a basically a calamity not tell the safe thing that we've been having for the last 90 minutes how do we how we thought of that situation and there's no trust when is the trust come from. so i just need to look internally at the moment the process has
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been going the wrong direction and it's not good for the country for the various reasons that some media and i might have mentioned from security to humanitarian crisis to medical crisis as koby ravages the country. this issue about security is fundamental to be addressed one of the. things that came out of post after her 18th in $1000.00 incidents in which. protesters were fired out and some of them being the political. candidates were for presidents and in former presidents i think that has changed the tone of the election for in a way that we have not seen before to get past that what the opposition is asking for is for the security of elections be guaranteed there's a precedence from the previous election in 2016 when the mandate of the former
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president has expired that he gave a decree relinquishing his friends and chill powers which then there is a national committee formed to manage the security process in the electoral process so that would give. the opposition in the federal member states a bit of confidence this is what they're asking for of course that's something that the somalia is against in the president's camp so ultimately you know some i was going to sit and now we're looking to was international community who has thus far as you have mentioned really you know have not played the strong arm sort of role to sort of guy the process they've been a friend but at the moment we see the impasse is is a serious one and know we've had discussions prior to february 8th and that everybody was. what happens after a great all of this is what happens in this country now is looking at serious
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setbacks from really from a public that is extremely fragile in terms of just recovering from 20 some years of civil strife and then also struggling with you know. extreme. violence and would show up so all in all the trust must be regained in that means there needs to be a middle. mediation that needs to happen to bring everyone back to the table because as we can see when speaking chinese and when speaking you know spent like literally with there are 2 different planets and from that we've seen from you know numerous meetings have failed but 123 and 4. now we're in what the show in the opposition are not really willing to even the protective
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area and that is a huge message and that was out the public now is becoming extremely poor the ways in so many cannot afford a public that goes back to the sentiments of violence in in civil unrest so you know obviously there aren't any. magic. solutions but there needs to be some serious mediation that needs to be introduced by who i think we've yet to see but the international community now i think it's the message that with today's announcement of this forum that the national salvation for him the message is even louder and that the president and also see that message what they do in the next days to come is everybody's guess but at this point i think all of them found a lesson that i said earlier no one has expected to get to this point in the end. find solution within that themselves but unfortunately at this point in the game i'm not sure that's possible. thank you so much.
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and also mohammed because you took his heart and said some really deep politics in somalia and the impact it for us in a really confounding situation which is why is there not an election day why is an election date yet there is a really interesting way of just having a look at some of the you tube comments here at dillard he says the constitution should be affective and we should reconsider the federal system can be effective in this context the state federal government and the government. in such a scenario and that council my hammett. they mohamad abdalla is he watching the street and yells a thank you t.j. this. time for us as well as anyone else us in the next attacking.
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