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jumping into the comments section and you choose you to be in the story. joining us to talk about elections in somalia or the lack of elections in somalia we have mohamed we have a hard we have severe a good to see you tell everybody who you all. i heard a bit of the. mom record a little while i'm in for a while and lala her with nubile and the are. when you're willing to. do a lot of the i'm on the by little member. of the. government oh my god we are pursuing the people laurie thank you for doing that on our show today appreciate all that nice to see you introduce yourself to our global audience . thank you thank you for having me on the show minimus for the 90 and the medical
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and humanitarian acts and also co-founder of the now on women's movement in somalia to ensure women's political participation is ensuring in this election process thanks for joining us welcome to the stream samir tell everybody what a day it is a i am so mira guided i'm a national security practitioner of the horn of africa since 22 album worked in different capacities in somalia and the immediate former principal security advisor to the prime minister who just left our house and i look over and i've been a special advice or to 3 heads of army some so i'm currently in d.c. at the moment pursuing national fellowship with the national defense university so we're at how is it possible that an election date has not only not been set but the election has not been held in somalia what's been happening. i think we're all equally dumb pounded i mean we've always known. this brinkmanship and the
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act in this manner sometimes and we always know that when they come around the table they will agree but this is the 1st time that you find a monday it was expired and there's no agreement on the table which is really really strange or new it's a really mystified as for my own people we're all expecting that you know the leaders will come together come around the table but what's been most difficult is just even coming together that mitch just said a few a few times have not met as as a member times we should have considering the martens about steak i know the leaders are all in mogadishu for some big conference but let's see how that goes there is no agreement on our agenda so we can have an open meeting or like it is confusion everywhere i'm going to say a little timeline everybody so we can see what happened sadly as we were creeping closer and closer and closer to the end of the president's mandate so let's start on february the 6 talks between the government and state leaders on how to administer elections well those talks they broke down sadly the 8th president how that's term expired the opposition leaders saying they would no longer recognize
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his presidency than a fight with the 19th opposition protesters came under attack from government forces who are marching in mogadishu and this happened hours after overnight fighting between government forces and armed opposition guards so now almost a month later how do you have news for us about the opposition organizing and you sent us a couple of pictures that you can tell us what's happening in these pictures right here this was just hours before you came on air with us what is happening here. a soul. there was expected several times and a temptation is needed to come together and try to agree this is the 1st. monday. and february 8th and a lot of people knows that we have been. once
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can't be so modest. to call them from our cause would kill causes it's always there there's another agreements. and action there was an agreement now that. the terms of the verses ended in the old agreement and there were some tried several times. in the last game was. the cubs or 60 of us dealing with. that ended up without any agreement well i got some out of the prop what's the problem. the problem is that i think the federal government the president's response and it was trying to make things very tough. because one particular process one side process and the people wanted to sort of process so it would make things very difficult to come together now today after delivering the president of jubilant and the president when to run is to make them to see how on
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it at the airport we've seen them yet all the disasters are just let me just go back to something i wondered what don't want to affluence i was at the back so there was a meeting at the airport early on today and after that meeting go. actually end up. on a couple issues. which are actually. mixed together and they're. neither. leader. because they're parliament. so it's been in the planning the group you do. not know. but they decided up that the best team to actually rejected him the people were so hot and just how to help me out here make sure that
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i'm nonsensical and so this meeting this person was to organize opposition to the president help me out he did it today i understand this correctly this is the opposition organizing. but you call that how they are not. absolutely correct today's meeting was really a collection of the opposition team coming together in a collectively voicing their concerns and demanding a different way forward must be charted consists of the presidential candidates coming together the council of presidential candidate the president of the land and the president put an end and the members. leading some itinerant constituents. so really all fish really. you know they've gathered today to sort of coalesce their voice whereas before. this this platform was not
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created but it really speaks to. the level of crisis political crisis that we're in we're not been in this situation before as senator and both. have mentioned very. in the fact that you know even where the meeting was being held is quite significant inside the airport which is. within the green zone under the u.n. vent and that stems to the back of trust between the fragile member states in the opposition groups and also and the federal governments i'm just a could also have the politics is not very easy to digest but sort of give you a coles notes. somalia is a is a fragile state it has 5 member states in the federal government 2 of the states japan and put names have been sort of in disagreements throughout the last 3 years with about half of the current administration's tenure coupled with now the
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somaliland coalition with the. presidential aspirants of this year's election coming. together now to sort of form one voice to. to kind of show their dissent but also to send messages across the board. that things must change and the governments must hold fair and fair and actions in time to actually english past the time but it's never too late so now i want to play a play to voices to you one is the president's voice as we have a voice is the voice of opposition this is from early february and you can hear the political differences the president is saying one saying the opposition is saying another thing and i would love you to be at intel put it for us let's have a listen. i'm telling you that
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there is foreign interference in the national election process in somalia in general or in. president himself is the main impasse the elections it is not under any question it is clear the president of the federal government is responsible for all problems because he wants to rig the election for the for the. samir. yes i think that's indicative of the polarization currently in somalia and i think i've been mentioned something very interesting she said that the lack of trust between the stakeholders and i think that's the biggest thing that is missing from this electoral process that was present in previous electoral process since i mean we've always had challenges with governance and disagreement over electoral processes but over the past 8 years our political leaders have managed to come together and agree when it's time to agree and have the interest of the somali people at heart but what you have is 2 sides that are so far apart and speaking such different languages if you were to speak to those in going to somalia right now they would tell you the president has conceded so many times he was for one
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person one vote to let go of that he was for a $300.00 electors delegates part m.p. that they're now 101 i mean they list the number of times his concept conceded and on the other side when you speak to the opposition they said that was agreed a concession one person one vote was never really possible in the 1st place so i mean we're still far apart and there has to be a party that comes in between that's my belief and unfortunately they simply not trust right now when the president of whose time expired and if a february there's been no agreement on the implementation of the february of the september 17th agreement and to top it off there's no urgency for stakeholders to come together and agree that a lack of urgency is i think the the most astounding thing 8 february came and went and there's no discussion on the opposition's part they say you know his mandate expired the constitution is clear knowledge of solution supersedes constitution on the president's parties he speaks of agreement that was signed by the parliament ariens and the speaker of the upper house that legitimizes his state and any other
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leaders stay until a new government comes into play when the ultimate thing is somalis we think we're all holding our breath waiting for this process to end we have quit to deal with we have the insurgency. but he's still you know wrecking our country so there's so much more to do than just politic and we just wish to get on with it i. i want to share with you guess some of the you tube conversation that you are generating because it is divided and i want you to instantly react to some of this reaction and hotter. and hotter and and also similar. oh mark we don't need dictatorship our red for marjoe time is up as a president mohammed quickly briefly respond. indeed might actually mention the really problem that needed to be actually and then our truck and probably never been given proper. and the pregnant he
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lost actually. you can meet the people. with the action that even pick an option that you. and the pregnant you know they'd like saw it a bit difficult so in the. help they need this all dictators in somalia are. and would not be theater the plotters were going on what are clearly gradually changing we need to continue in order to sponsor me and. then we can come. and go in together agreed one ok valid on the other that i'm evil and differences of opinion here are going to give me these to some margin and will be our president or others are traitors and one boy here we are behind so marjah 100 percent that's
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from nomadic impression you can hear the debate going on in the u. 2 comments right is that what's happening in somalia down on the ground absolutely and that's you know the plan i was asian that's the mirror has referenced read like one side you know it's we don't want dictator and the other side is we're behind the president in that other rhetoric that he just reacts and i think it's really speaks to the threats of. a serious impasse that could lead some money in the wrong direction that we have you know a population that has been becoming law poor poor every day and all too mentally we don't have all agreed who lit. consensus i mean the fact that you know the president's demise and that it's not that. is how it has happened before but what has always happened is the leadership the staples have been able to find common
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ground to work together is a president still president even though his time as a spy a yammie i hear is a president still president if this time has expired can you hear me i mean we have to samir so america is the president still hasn't right to health even though his term has expired. i know of a this is a this brings up brings up a lot of debate but in my opinion i don't think so up to february things have changed and there has to be a political agreement that legitimises his take and that's what is missing is them coming around the table you know formalizing this extended stay because they are nothing without constitutionality we have to be bound by the rule of law and the constitution is clear it's a 4 year term and before your time ended but the fact that we continue on i think it's really deeply disturbing and then i think no one else has mentioned the violence of 19th of february really stalk the tensions and the call and the calls
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of our dictatorship and that's really what's got everyone up in arms and then for the 1st time in the decade you will see that there's a general feeling of the aggression when it comes to the state building point project. people are talking about dictatorship a return to civil war you know state of collapse of been in somalia from 2012 and was always electoral process is what emotive but people were excited and they were always excited for change but now you see you know a dictatorship being talked about militarized election we saw the tanks coming out and we don't have very many of them so the tanks coming out for the for the for the demonstrations recently so i think i'm with the population will be rejected and with particular we have too many problems and we just like this to to come to a close so samir mohamad mentioned some of those problems al-shabaab. still seeing those attacks there some food insecurity issues covert 19 is always lurking wherever we are in the world it is pretty much locking in the background exasperating any issues that we currently have from your consistence from your
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people that you are representing mohamed how are they coping with this this instability regarding what happened regarding the presidency and elections. this is about samples. it really concerns. the servants or. people of us specifically when it comes to political crisis that gets greater danger to every single. angle including the al-shabaab. 'd getting that chance or include themselves in closing in the society collecting tax in the cities among them in mogadishu of the deport the publicly that shabab collecting now sex developing double tax it's very dangerous and it's getting to us my sister states goes from others to the very wrong their actions and a man called if the international community or when harper
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will malia a lot of investment a lot of attention to make sure somalia. can't see the sort of stability achieved in east africa particularly somalia if they don't change. the way they are facing the the president who's ended because they're entertaining our concerns of the into painting a lot because we understand the. diplomatic broadly that banks are the diplomats the leverage that they have had to put pressure as president i think will change other ways the concern is getting greater and then coming very very very thick ice a hard time is back with us that's great to have you back i want to play is a strong heart and i'm ridin truly by your response this is professor abdul elven talking about someone she writes out and got into a solution got into an election that had
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a lesson. mistrust is the main reason behind this election selection processes and this is a rooted in the way the government to manage it previous dispensations of previous election is also the way the for that a number of states behave or acted in the past as though they are independent states themselves secluded tea judiciary and economic obviously this woman is that no. soul will arise it would extend to these institutions have been criticised and finally i think it would have had all legitimacy impact on the whole system. as a basically a calamity now tell the cesa now we've been having for the head of how do we how do we thought of that situation and there's no trust when is the trust come from. so i just need to look internally at the moment the process has been going the wrong
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direction and it's not good for the country for the various reasons that some media and i might have mentioned from security to humanitarian crisis to medical crisis as cobe it ravages the country. this issue as security is fundamental to be addressed one of the. things that came out of post after her 18th in $1000.00 incidents in which. protesters were fired out in some of them being the political. candidates were for presidents and in former presidents i think that has changed the tone of the election for in a way that we have not seen before to get past that what the opposition is asking for is for the security of elections be guaranteed there's a precedence from the previous election in 2016 when the mandate of the former
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president has expired that he gave a decree relinquishing his friends and chill powers which then there is a national committee formed to manage the security process in the electoral process so that would give. the opposition in such a member states a bit of confidence this is what they're asking for of course that's something that's going to somalia is against in the president's camp so ultimately you know some i was going to sit and now we're looking to was international community who has thus far as you have mentioned really you know have not played the strong arm sort of role to to sort of guy the process enough but at the moment we see the impasse is is a serious one and know we've had discussions prior to february 8th and it everybody was. what happens after a great all of this is what happens in this country now is looking at serious
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setbacks from really from a public that is extremely fragile in terms of just recovering from 20 some years of civil strife and then also struggling with you know. extreme violence and woodstock so all in all the trust must be regained in that means that there needs to be a middle. mediation that needs to happen to bring everyone back to the table because as we can see one speaking chinese and one speaking you know spent like literally with there are 2 different planets and from that we've seen from you know numerous meetings have failed but 123 and 4. now we're in what the show in the opposition are not really willing to even the protective area and that is a huge message and that was out of the public now is becoming extremely poor the
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ways in somali cannot afford a public that goes back to the sentiments of violence in in civil unrest so you know obviously there aren't any. magic. solutions but there needs to be some serious mediation that needs to be introduced by who i think we've yet to see that but the international community now i think it's the message that with today's announcement of this forum that the national salvation for him the message is even louder and that the president and also see that message what they do in the next days to come is everybody's guess but at this point i think all of them less than that i said earlier no one has expected to get to this point in the end you know somalis must find solution within that themselves but unfortunately at this point in the game i'm not sure that's possible. thank you so much.
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america and mohamed because you took. some really deep politics in somalia lompoc tit for us and i really can sound ng situation which is why is there not an election day why is an election day yet there is a really interesting way of just having a look at some of the the you tube comments here he says the constitution should be affective and we should reconsider the federal system can be effective in this context the state federal government and the government will be stuck in such a scenario and that hammett abdulahi is like the muhammad afterlife is he watching the street you know as a thank you this for watching the strong appreciate your time for sake of time get as well as any ok signing off us again next time take everything.
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