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happens the murder trial of derek chauvin who murdered who is alleged to have killed george floyd last year prompted a wave of black lives matter of process of ease getting in the way as i see in a few moments it's going to start with ministration some paperwork but also some opening arguments is 45 years old is denied charges of a 2nd and 3rd degree murder and manslaughter over the death of the 46 year old black man after he was detained on suspicion of possibly a counterfeit $20.00 bill last may now central to the prosecution is nearly 9 minute bystander video that i mentioned of the police officer kneeling on floyd's neck on he's handcuffed and is to all the officers keep him pinned to the ground floyd is had to say i can't breathe and i'm about to die and the video has been seen around the world and led to some of the biggest protests against racial injustice since the civil rights movements of the 1960 s.
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we're bringing you pictures of the interior of the court which is just as i say proceedings there to starts just in a few minutes let's go back to john hendren who is outside the courthouse in minneapolis john you were telling a seller about the process that is going to be going on in the courtroom and of course what was at stake here let's talk about the fact that after the death of george floyd the world's sole the videos of protests in minneapolis and other places as well as a result of that what is the security like in the city in particular around the courthouse. well it's pretty impressive you can't see it behind me right now but in front of the courthouse there is a high perhaps 8 foot high fence erected around there there are some men in camouflage standing above the hennepin county government center there are national
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guard troops stationed inside. stationed inside there's no other business going on there just this trial and everyone is approaching it from tunnels underground so you can't see them coming in or out of the building and the buildings around me are largely boarded up behind the camera there is an office building and that is covered in the front by a chain link barricades all around town businesses even that are open are boarded out because they remember what happened this summer when the city was lit up in flames businesses were overrun there was arson looting and they don't want that to happen again and in the real concern here just in the city of minneapolis over to killer is that when this is all over if the crowds in the street don't like the results particularly if that officer is acquitted of the charges that people are going to take out their anger their fury in the streets of minneapolis and across the u.s. there are other cities chicago was also looted and raided downtown after this
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happened on may 25th here in minneapolis so there's a lot of concern about the immediate reaction but as you heard ben crump the lawyer for george floyd's family and his brother terence and others say it is really more a matter of what this trial says about how justice will be administered whether it'll be equally administered for white and black and other people in the united states or not and they're going to use this trial to judge whether that is happening but there is a very real reaction in the streets here at george floyd square not far from here where there is a memorial there is a constant vigil going on but you're right the security in this case is very high it's high here in the city of minneapolis but there are other cities as well getting prepared for the reaction when this whole trial winds down there were just as you're talking there john seeing pictures from the interior of the chords this
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is just peter king. hell he's presiding over the trial of derek he's been a judge for 14 years and his experience is largely in criminal court we're going to be talking to our guest about the proceedings in court in a moment just talk us through what the mood has been like in the city in the run up to this because you are talking of course about the fairly intense by the sound of it security that's been put in place. that's right here in this city everyone is aware of this trial going on everyone is aware of the importance of it and there is a concern about what the result will be and that's why you have judge peter cahill deciding to put this out there it is really the 1st major civil rights case here in the united states of the live streaming era everyone can watch it not just here in minneapolis and elsewhere and give you a sense of just how pervasive that george floyd video the arrest video that we showed earlier is the judge was interviewing members of the jury and could find
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almost no one who hadn't seen it and when he was asked whether the case should be moved out of minneapolis because the jury pool might have been poisoned by all of the news about this case and therefore having formed an opinion he said there's no place in the state of minnesota where you could hold a trial and you could find people who didn't know about this case but one result of having it here in minneapolis is that you've got a very racially diverse jury they picked 12 people plus 3 alternate one of those alternates we expect to be dismissed this week and 9 of don't forget me i am going to interject interrupt you there because we're hearing from matthew g. frank who's the lead prosecutor on this case in the court let's listen to what you hear what he's going to say ours or knowledge that certain but it's really to clarify what you see as the problem with the say. so i
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think it's rather self-explanatory what a branch of the courts tensions are to deal with this morning just to clear. the other part of that. as far as. the. knowledge your. call is that you would have to right again it's an objective officer standard. powers. his perceptions and how they would be dealt with by an objective officer what he intends to do all right is relevant. because of course there is an assault charge and other intent is an element of some of these crimes and so his intent is relevant but it's it's kind of just ill judged by an objective reasonable standard clinton there's no saying if you want to end. on
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a. morning you know. ok well. yeah. lacerations of the police officers and the people who were there you know she i agree that. her the court's moving mr ford's subjects' internal process uses. and maybe i can give an example. because like most of the judges on this bench were fairly strict regarding no argument in opening. as far as mr floyd obviously description of appearances i think even to the point of saying he appeared to not being complying i think that's permissible because someone will testify to that but they cannot say he was resisting he was especially in opening.
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those are conclusions those are inferences drawn from his behavior. so when witnesses are testifying expect that they will talk about what they observed or as far as appearances sometimes it has to lapse into it appeared to be. resistance or noncompliance but to say that he was is an inference from the behavior i know this is a fine line but just so you know and where i would drive as far as mr show been at the scene there is this policy in place certainly it is permissible in opening to talk about the policy and hall and officer on the scene as to follow this policy make of assessment i think if you get to the point of saying the word should is where you get in the inferences for example if in opening you were to say mr sherman should have made this evaluation that's arguable but to say this is the policy this is what every officer in the scene should do that i think is objective
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it is. and then you can talk about the behaviors on the scene. sounds like i'm splitting hairs a little too thinly but i think you kind of get my the gist of it any inferences you draw. are argumentative and so that shouldn't be done but the description of the policies that were in place that boni officer was out on the street responding to arrest all that is appropriate in opening and as far as testimony. anybody need any clarification beyond that. ok couple things that. we are going to try and stick as much as we can to the $9.00 to $930.00 is going to be are you any legal issues that come up because invariably legal issues come up. i don't want to move up too much the jury start time because. the process of
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getting here into the building is a little complicated so i'd prefer that we continue with the 9 o'clock plus we will go to 1230 each day in the morning and do the calculations between our argument on legal issues from 9 to 930 and then with a 20 minute break that allows for essentially 2 and a half blocks of time in the morning and in the afternoon i have is the i'll tell the jury that it will be going generally from 130 to 430 possibly 5 o'clock. if it's possible to keep or witness from having to come back the next day i would prefer to go later in the day then to have them come back the next day but we can talk about that and we can then have chambers conferences generally i'll be here by $830.00 at least played $45.00 if you just want to have a chambers conference about logistics nothing substantive on the record so i'll be here if you want to come back at that time during the daily schedule other than
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that since we have our jury waiting. we made stare today at 950 about having said i want to stick at 930 since we have all 15 we're going to be cutting loose i think we can start around more 915 but i'll give you all a break until night. and you're watching al-jazeera we're bringing you live pictures from inside the courtroom in minneapolis at the trial of derrick chauvin the 45 year old former police officer allegedly charged with killing george floyd last year which prompted a wave of protests let's go back to john hendren who is outside the courthouse in minneapolis a judge there has worked both as a public defender and a prosecutor and he's going through discussing the language of what they should be used by the witnesses when they are giving. when they are speaking in front of the court this is the kind of detail that is very important but of course we can't
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forget that these courtroom proceedings are being televised and that's significant as well isn't it. that's right it's unusual that a court proceeding here in minneapolis is it's televised than it was that judge peter cahill who decided that this was important enough it had enough impact on the rest of the world that he wanted this to be televised that came over the objections of the prosecutors they were concerned that witnesses shouldn't have to give up their privacy in order to testify might also make it more difficult for them to get witnesses but this judge as you point out a former prosecutor former defense attorney a son of a prominent attorney also the father of a prominent prosecutor here as well he has been splitting hairs throughout the case and he's made some on usual decisions one of those decisions is that no one is allowed to call derek show the defendant that's generally what you call someone in
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a trial when they're facing charges particularly charges as serious as murder and manslaughter but in this case the judge has insisted that he be accorded the respect to be called mr chavez and that has raised some hackles among people on the other side of this case people who want to see that officer prosecuted because they want to be treated like every other defendant they don't want there to be 2 different systems of justice and that's the kind of pressure that this judge is having to balance the as he makes all of these rules and you heard him talking a little about what those rules would be he expects there to be legal issues that come up every day so he's a lot of the 1st half hour of the day to deal with all of those issues at about $915.00 local time that's any minute the jury comes into the room and that past the hour that's when the to the deliberations begin and we can expect the prosecution to begin to begin with their opening argument and that argument is essentially everything that you need to know you saw on that nearly 9 minute video taken by
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a bystander of dare show been leaving. leaning on the neck of george floyd that that led to fixation and that that led to death there will be some dueling autopsy information going on there because there's an official autopsy that rules it's a homicide but also says that george floyd died essentially a heart stoppage there was a private autopsy that said in fact he died is fixation directly as a result of the officer's knee on his neck there will be a lot of testimony about exactly what was the precise cause we're going to hear some medical testimony and then we'll hear a little about priests police procedures there will be talk about other accusations of police brutality against derrick show an interesting lee we are told there will also be some talk about a case in which chauvelin was said to have helped save somebody's life the point there according to the prosecution is that he knew the difference between being
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able to save a life and being able to take one in this case the prosecution's allegation is that he chose either to disregard the life of george floyd or actively to end it john thanks very much indeed as you say of course we're waiting for the jury to come in in about 15 minutes time we're keeping an eye on the live pictures that we're seeing from the or which we will be seeing from the court in this country and we're going to come back to you when that gets under way but for now john hendren and many of us thank you very much indeed. well in a press conference and head of the child civil rights activist robin al sharpton says there was more to the case than the death of a single man made no mistake about it. shaping is in the court room but america's own trout. america's own child to see if we have gotten to a place where we can hold police accountable if they break the law the law
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is for everybody policemen are not above the law policemen are subject to the law and that's what's going on in this card room and yes while we here in the fine family lawyer warned people against being drawn into discussions about george's record please do not be to stretch the facts a simple were killed george ploy was an overdose of excessive force. and script from all times is a clear the manner and cause of death was a fixation but homicide alone as said in the. they show. it was a new show in george floyd's family demanded justice for all black people killed by police officers. they can sweep this on the road jaws for law and.
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steal they were all killed. protected. many others who are can't name. throughout america. but one thing i can tell you he will get justice he would not allow. his room. be to judge the prosecutor and executioner. ok i'd like to welcome back ronald sullivan he's a professor of law and director of criminal justice institute at harvard law school and is joining us live by skype from newton in massachusetts it's good to have you with us by waiting for the that the jury i beg your pardon the the witnesses to start filing in the proceedings start to begin in about i think 13 minutes time or so i want to ask you about something that that our correspondent john mentioned earlier that judge peter khalil has decided that deryk children should not be
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called the defendant he should be called mr what's the rationale behind that do you think. well the rationale behind that is that it prejudices a criminal defendant when he's referred to as the defendant it's dehumanizing in d. personalising prosecutors do it all the time in american courts and they very dramatically save the defendant did this in the defendant did that and in it in a really cast of all on the point of person of q.'s i've spent time before i was a law professor i was a public defender and it would grate on me every time i heard someone call my client the defendant most judges will not make that moving and every now and again i found a judge who would say yes. the accuse mr so and so or miss thus and so but
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that is really are so so people are genuinely upset about that ruling on my view has always been that we should accord war process to people rather than then them less the prosecution can make its case without calling children and the defendant they can make their case they still can and when the case but i do wish that more courtrooms around america would do something are similar to that what's her opinion about the procedures being televised. well i think that. television is a good distance becton did survive that the public should be able to see what goes all went in courtrooms as you know our constitution says that there has to be a public trial and what that means is that people get to come into the court ruled men see it but you know we are in
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a vastly different sort of situation now that we were at the founding of the us people are interested in this case not only cross the u.s. but across the world now the teaching here is that there is a fear that witnesses could get prejudiced by prejudiced i mean that they could hear some things that they're not supposed to hear because it's televised so john it is going to have to be very careful to instruct the witnesses destruct the jury if you see or hear anything on television or the radio about this case turn it off immediately because you don't want mind of the witness impacted or in effect it but i what people like mike i say for example you want them to just testify from their memory of the of it in their memory alone we were talking earlier about the rodney
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king trial back in 1901 and of course after the verdict and that was their war protests on the streets there was a lot of violence and so on one would imagine that part of the televising the process as you were saying to try to make sure the people are aware of what's going on in the court the transparency and the upon and fairness of this trial is key isn't it because the guy is going to be a lot of concern about what is going to happen when the verdict whatever it is is actually produced. you know i think that's right and to be able to see it and to see what goes on in the courtroom i think helps to legitimize the verdict whatever that verdict may be so what happens extrajudicial week for example is not what the jurors hear so if the public is able to hear what the jurors hear then oftentimes that will have the impact of legitimize in the trial so for example we just heard the judge reminding them more years of the rules for opening arguments
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so it's very different from what reverend al sharpton said and from what my good friend been crump said in the press conference you can't match say that in opening statements in a criminal trial so what the judge was reminding them for example was hey we're going to play by the rules here that is an opening statement is minute to show only what that evidence at trial is going to show you can't make arguments you can't draw conclusions you can essentially say the evidence will show and then state facts they're actually what an opening is and it sounds like the judge is going to hold them to the traditional rules of the opening now in these publicized very very publicized trials we often have a situation where the public is hearing one thing from all the pundits and all the analysis that's going on but the jury is hearing something else in court
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and the 2 often are very radically different when i've represented high profile clients and i watch the news at night i think my goodness they they they weren't even in the courtroom it seems because some of the things they say the jury simply hasn't heard so you know i would encourage the public to listen intently as to what goes on in the courtroom and try to separate that out and. you know when people like me understand why the judge did this why this was larry and why this that was not met him but he sensually this is a good civics lesson too because the public will get a chance to see how its formal criminal court room proceeding works ron i know you're going to be with us as the events unfold in the courtroom over the next few weeks i would imagine certainly but ronald sullivan professor of law and director
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of criminal justice institute at harvard law school for now thank you very much indeed that you and in other news the container ship that's blocked the suez canal for nearly a week is moving again the 400 meter long ever given have been waged across the canal since tuesday night here on monday after days of dredging and using at least 14 tug boats the vessel was turned in the right direction and brian reports. finally on the move the ever given being towed to down the sewer was canal after being stuck for almost a week. celebrations began before dawn as the mess of container ship was 1st personally refloated. a despite an international rescue effort the vessel had been waged across the waterway which is one of the busiest in the world. since tuesday dredges and diggers have removed thousands of cubic meters of sand from underneath the ship and
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a flotilla of tugboats has worked on dislodging it it's forced tankers and cargo ships to queue at either end of the canal delaying global trade. each day that passes there's about $7.00 to $8000000000.00 worth of goods which would usually pass through the canal so a week later you're talking $4550000000000.00 of delays really as much of the thing will catch up and some of that but there will be ongoing place it's hard to put a figure on it and of course some carcasses may perish because they were time critical they'll be in no doubt some big insurance claims going in the crisis is having an impact on syria the authorities a ration in fuel is supplies from iran a stack some vessels are carrying livestock cotton from india for coats and auto parts from china well we've got training in planes on board and the cargo ranging from one of your in so it starts. what goes up grants very
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concerned not only get the goods she wants you to write and it except this good friday and i can't really say or write at least not certain maybe 14 days experts say the blockage raises long term questions about the canal sustainability i think what's happened is that container carriers got larger quite rapidly and so i think this particular accident was really waiting to happen it's going to be a lot of head scratching and thinking not only about making supply chains more resilient but i'm sure a series can our authorities having a good heart think as well about how to make the the canal itself more about despite the progress the salvage company warns there are still challenges and even with they have a given underway canel thora he say it will take days for the backlog to klia brian
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al-jazeera. still ahead in al-jazeera thailand says it's bracing for an exodus of refugees from me and marcos thousands flee is surging violence and the water of words over cotton heats up as china warns foreign companies not to miss business and politics. you're watching all jazeera and let's take you back to the interior of that courtroom in minneapolis the trial of former police officer derek children was alleged to have killed a georgia floyd last year let's see what's happening inside the court system only as we hear now to protect the privacy of your notes i would suggest you write your random jersey number which we will keep the same and put that on the 1st sheet and then begin taking notes on the 2nd sheet we also have extra pads if you run out of space now we were collecting keep are not secure at the end of each day so you can leave them in the chair during breaks and at the end of the day. at the
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other end of the trial you will be allowed to take your notes with you into deliberation and i will instruct you further regarding the use of those notes at the end of the trial keep in mind also that i cannot give you a trial transcript at the end of the trial no such transcript can be prepared for you deliberation we count on the jury to rely upon its collective memory and the exhibits submitted to you. during the trial an objection may be made to some evidence and i mr steam or overrule the objection if i sustain the objection it means that the question may not be answered in that case you should simply ignore the question any answer that might have been given if no answer was given before the objection was made you should not speculate about what the possible answer might have been similarly if i instruct you during the trial to disregard
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some statement that a witness or attorney has made then you must disregard it. if i overrule the objection it means that the question may be answered in that case you should treat the answer like any other answer similarly if an exhibit is received despite an objection you should treat that exhibit like any other evidence. from time to time during the trial the attorneys will need to discuss issues of law or scheduling matters if these discussions are brief the lawyers and i will use the whalers headsets while the wait noises. if the discussions are lengthier i may take a recess please understand we are not attempting to conceal anything from you which it is necessary for you to hear i ask that you be patient when we have these discussions even though they may interrupt the case and just as an aside we are scheduled to have the time between 830 and 930 every morning set aside for the lawyers to argue legal issues so hopefully we can handle more so that before we
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start again at $930.00 each morning. you know when i turn on the white noise that's your indication that conversation is out for you so please do not attempt to listen in and please come to order when i turn the way tonight is off and i'm also giving them instructions to anyone who's a spectator here the white noise is a private conversation usually about scheduling nothing exciting. between me and the attorneys. you can use that opportunity however if you'd like to stand up stretch talk to your neighbor but if you could make sure you don't there's a ball piece of black tape in front of you please don't cross that line we've taken great. care to make sure you are never on camera and so as long as you see behind the black line and even stretch in the aisle between you should be just fine now
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