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that spring has sprung the u.s. capitol cherry blossoms which have picked earlier this year it's normally a major tourist attraction there's a lower turnout due to the pandemic the cherry trees were given to the u.s. by japan at 912 as a gift of friendship. this is al jazeera and these are the top stories indonesia has recovered the cockpit voice recorder of a passenger jet that crashed in january it's up to could provide clues as to why the plane went down killing all 62 people on board jessica washington has more from jakarta this is a significant breakthrough and in incredibly challenging circumstances for the teams involved in this search operation we know that early on in the search they were able to recover the beacon which is attached to this cockpit voice recorder
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they were also able to recover the casing what they found more difficult was recovering the recorder itself that was because of a number of factors including very difficult weather conditions heavy rains created an additional layer of mud over the seabed in that particular search area of the java sea and that made it particularly difficult for divers to try and retrieve this device i mean miles military is intensifying an offensive against rebels in qur'an states thousands of people are fleeing into thailand to escape the fighting the u.n. security council will meet later on wednesday to discuss the armrest. who the rebels are rejecting the u.n. reports indicating they were responsible for an attack on aden airport in december at least 20 people were killed missiles were fired as members of a new unity government were lander. heavy gunfire has been heard near presidential palace 2 days ahead of the swearing in of president elect mohamed. the government
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has your not yet to comment it. brazil's president has signed an executive order to provide more than $900000000.00 in pandemic relief he authorized the package on the same day the country hit a record telly of more than $3700.00 deaths. the 2nd day of the trial of the former policeman accused of murdering george floyd has taken place several bystanders gave emotional testimony including an off duty firefighter prevented from giving 1st aid to floyd. more than a dozen countries are raising concerns about a report into the origins of covert 19 world health organization investigators sent to the chinese city of 100 found the virus most likely passed from bats to humans through another animal. the headlines news continues here on al-jazeera right after the stream of life now. to want to i'll just. tell
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me what the government you represent is now illegitimate and we listen we do not sell the fence material any country during the conflict in yemen we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on syria. hi i'm femi oke a on today's episode of the strain we delve into the ethics of holding people indefinitely without a charge without a trial united states right now is running a detention camp and they come in he has 40 detainees that until 2016 by how much he was one of them his story is being told in a new film called mauretania it's taken up. people have called you a terrorist warrior how do you respond. when i
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defended someone charged with rape nobody called me a rapist and i defended someone charged with murder nobody dug around my backyard so when someone is accused of terrorism people like you seem to think that's different. you want to represent the head recruiter for 911 constitution doesn't have an asterix at the end that says the terms and conditions apply. they could never move from where i grew up with the back of my head and chains around my body . but to the accuser you have 3 years to charge me with nothing rough justice that's what this administration wants we are seeing the death penalty what if you're wrong. but if you built this place you abandon all of your principles all of your. favorite wrong. you need to tell me what happened i did it in the characteristic not for if you believe for something that i've never been maybe he's guilty. someone who strays. the trial works from.
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there it works for free the word for forgiveness is the scene. i want to for you. this is how i. can be for. joining us on the string the real mohamadi the real nancy and daphne is so good to have you daphne introduce yourself to international audience tell everybody what you did sure my name is daphne every atar i direct the security with human rights program at amnesty international usa and we advocate for the closure of the kuantan a mob a detention camp among other things it to have a hello nancy welcome to the stream introduce yourself to our international audience all right thank you for having me criminal defense lawyer represented mamadou also lucky if i still represent him for ever. and i have another client there 11 time tomorrow and that's what i do i represent people in
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institutions accused. breaking the law thank you for joining us nancy a mohamadi there will be people who will be discovering i think you are to say what do they need to know about you welcome to the stage my name is $100.00 and affordable political loser in one town and more barry and a lot of places to be i am a human being and human rights activists how much you are i'm just thinking often when you go to the movies it says based on a true story but this is your story if you could sum it up what is it that people will be going to see clicking on renting what is it what is that story in a nutshell. first off i would like to think you so much for inviting me in your program and i am
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a fairly big fan this is real that i have been watching your program for so many years and now i am not a program this is like something for me and so what the people need to know. the all of law and the respect of woman rights do work dictatorship and well to tyranny regimes do not work nor these do not because these session of some american or. in these intelligence agencies and they have a government that you know are you know working with all the gloss on you know getting down and dirty you know they can down a people without these does not work because we can see it to return to regimes cup or countries who don't have any walls like feeling
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or fear that country is only democracy and the respect of human lives the war that's what i want people to know and i also want people to know that we need to stop these acception in the middle east and in africa that people don't deserve to be treated with dignity and the will of law we want this city and think as you have in the united states of america they have in canada in your we want to normalize dignity in not being kidnapped and tortured and also the law so if you want to speak to muhammad on nancy or daphne you know you can do that right while you can jump into the comments and be part of today's program we also have gas and some video comments somehow mother nancy pay special attention this is sarah she has a question for both of you let's have a listen. i watched the movie and i'm currently reading the book but exceptional
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pieces of what i question for you nancy is that. as a lawyer how did you personally cope with the frustrations and the disappointments you must have faced throughout this long battle for mama do's freedom mohamedou for you i want to know what was it about monte and her team of lawyers that made you trust them made you want to give them all the information they needed me to want to follow due process and eventually when you battle for freedom nancy the frustration. it is frustrating and it was frustrating in this case and other cases. i think i deal with it just by dealing with it by going forward by writing another motion by tracking to the client in this case more harm again we had years before the judge granted us a b.s.
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and then we had 6 years after that were really nothing was happening but somehow just being with no harm of you talking to him promising him that i would never leave him and terry duncan my co-counsel to the same thing we will always be here as long as you're here. but yes i cry every time i left him every single time but how would i want to trust nancy so actually when he came to me. it was almost of to feel 4 years of my detention and i was i would like to advise everyone you know to make sure they get a lawyer before 4 years in custody so i did not have much of a choice. it's. ok you know germans you go
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dick of there while meaning the torture or too many choices i didn't have any choice and when nancy came to me she was the 1st american civilian. you know like i ever interacted with you know after so many years and i was so happy i saw in her busy view. and i wasn't disappointed when i just give working with them i mean without nancy. without them as i wouldn't be talking to. me i'm so disappointed like all many people so these people are calling me after the movie this is a mohammedan this is so great i love nancy i want to be a lawyer. not one single person called me 102 i want to be kidnapped tortured by the government.
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so let's say i'm doing you work for you. but i defy you but i did i do feel that. the ways you are both portrayed in the film draws you in it helps you understand an empathic issues which is where i'm going to bring tackling in here daphne there is a misty international campaign right now to close guantanamo bay and you and your colleagues are putting all of the efforts behind that i'm going to play one clip of the campaign and how the campaign is doing and i want you to come off the back of it and explain what some of the critical issues are. still alive and let's have a look at the campaign festival. i trust you are trust me i am innocent i am innocent here heard of the new film the mauretania and the movie is about muhammad who sly he was tortured and imprisoned for years never charged with a crime he and almost a 100 other man has passed through the terrifying doors of the detention center at
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guantanamo back one time who is a symbol of torture indefinite detention and injustice join us this is how president biden close guantanamo once and for all and definitely. i'm just looking here at the report amnesty international put out about close guantanamo bay detention camp daphne these are people's lives he was scooped up and often they had no charges they were court should people die and this is happening under the jurisdiction of the united states of america where we are right . so you know 1st i just want to say how important this movie is and how grateful i am to mamma do and they see and all of the people who made the movie and just were in participated in that video as well because you know it's like nancy said she can do her legal work and mohamed you have the unfortunate role of being in prison and
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being able to write about it and amnesty comes in and we campaign for the closure of the detention camp but everybody has role is so important in reminding people that this is what the united states did and i think i'm so glad the movie is out now because so many people in this country have forgotten that the kuantan the most attention camp still exists that the united states is still imprisoning 40 muslim men and most of whom have never been charged with a crime and in offshore prison camp in cuba that was created specifically to avoid the reach of u.s. law i believe if americans realize that they would demand an end to it and so we're urging people to see the film trying to get i reported our reporters into a lot of detail it's a longer play but i don't think every average person will read it but anyone who wants back are not going to on emotion look at it you know i think it's an issue that people really need to pay more attention to in this country because the 911
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attacks were almost 20 years ago people have kind of forgotten about them but they don't realize that we created a whole system of law enforcement and military policy since 911 that specifically targets muslims in other countries it is a discriminatory prof excuse me a discriminatory policy and it needs to end and it's continuing i hope i mean when i out that i had the i had nancy. yes you know i think thank you daphne and thank you for all the wonderful work that amnesty is doing. i i just want to make clear that we're talking about human beings as daphne's. said 6 of these men have been cleared for release already one of them it since 2009 now but i don't ministration can get those people home or where they're safe quickly and for that 25 or so who've never been charged with any crime we aren't having
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definite detention in this country they too have to be released and that leaves only about 7 who've been actually charged in the military commissions and their cases need to get resolved in a press sense that they can they can agree to that the government to agree to and we need to put a lock on the door and say never again to anything like oh i'm trying i'm all well how do when you follow your story i thought in real life and i watched the film and prove me right back into your life that and they joyfulness alongside the pain which is really difficult to understand john here on the cheap os this about here how do you maintain how dejan maintain a positive outlook even cracking jokes right now when we're talking about one of the most serious issues right now in terms of injustice
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and people being kept in prison when there is no charge no is no reason for them to protect and present to happen how do you do it for me. we are what we were and who saw it many people ask you are you forgive. and you know one syria plane came to pick me up from jordan jordanian prison where i suffered for a conservative month you know in in a dungeon i didn't. be nice for the most time. when they pick me up and when the. use scissors in order to study me naked and put me in a diaper you know i figure. that on i'm not going back home this is it this is the in i'm going to die you know forgotten in
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a very violent american a prison you know because why am a young muslim. from a region that is still the exception to human rights and dignity and my life around through my head you know. i tell you what i didn't regret in life i did not the regular not being rude not turning that dream job now admitting that woman i did not regret any of that i did however get it all the likeliest the nice words i told people not being as nurses nice as i wanted to and then i took it upon myself to be as nice as possible to people because that would matter and today i'm telling you i forgive everyone people who kidnap people who torture and i wish them nothing but the best in life and i'm in need peace with
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myself and in peace with the world. mohamedi you may be at peace with yourself and wondering about the struggles that. politicians in the united states should be having and whether tant ability yes we had this comment i'm going to share with. the telling you about what have we learnt from the so-called war on terror have a look have a listen. watching the mauritanian reboot the abject failures of the war on terror and the extent governments will go to cover up on how we treat prisoners the facilities are gone time to move the detention center have become emblematic of the gross human rights abuses perpetrated by the us government in the name of terrorism and has become a symbol of torture when do show an indefinite detention without charge or trial we must learn from our failures and hold not just our enemies but also our allies to the same fundamental principle and universal values we fight to protect most
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importantly we must remember under the universal declaration of human rights everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty and everyone is important to legal counsel but that isn't true when it comes to quantum of a detention camp daphne lessons law and i think the biggest lesson is that we can't have a war on terror this isn't a military fight you can't decide that you're going to use the military in the cia and special interrogation and torture against a group of people who you suspect might have links to armed groups who might want to harm us that's not what we do in this country that's not what our justice system demands but that's what guantanamo did it created this special military place outside the justice system i think we've learned that that has failed it's failed as a matter of detention it's that never brought justice to the victims of the 911 attack there's never been a trial of the man accused of doing of being involved in that in that horrible
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incident. mass murder and there's never been a trial and it's really. i think we've learned that they're happy that there is a different way you know we have been fighting a war we've also killed hundreds of thousands of civilians around the world in trying to fight terrorism and through a war and we've realised that doesn't end terrorism terrorism isn't solved it's not over it's not like no one's being attacked anymore it didn't work we need a new way of going about this this is what i can i show her a little bit yes also how much of that i had. so i'm going to be very straight in these going like to beat up on the bush terrorism. should be. we should get it in the related builders and should not be the signet as a crown because well 2 things one countries are not unanimous over the
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definition every country has its own. mostly political dissent beautiful political dissent. totalist in many countries and the biggest gift to dig dig deep to regimes dictatorial regimes and the authoritarian regimes in the world was then i know a lot about that because honestly as a mom as it was was that with the 911 attacks that has to be terrorism doesn't that . you know. they have murder we have murder do we have a fraction of proper you know because you know the abuses you know when you use the reason you can lie collectively punish people you know and this is an example of what is the end result label it as terrorism is your point on making nancy what. yes i mean i agree with you yes i have a had yeah yeah what i'm making is the following point terrorism as
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a crime is abuse in africa and the middle east mostly because they use it to crush political dissent and they say we can hold people without trial because america the greatest democracy in the world does it what are the where are the limits and if you can't it has its own like so called terrorists and this is just like a way to look if you punish people also thought of law put them in a prison also a little out of luck because if you see terrorism people are scared and people have that i too was killed it. none of them and that let me just add a little bit to that the i totally agree with mohamed you and i've given our long lectures on why we should not have the crime of terrorism terrorism is 100 percent always a political crime there's no or as mohamedou says there's no need for we have murder
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rape ethnic cleansing whatever you want but when you charge someone with murder everyone then looks at that accuse that person is being charged with murder when you charge someone with terrorism and people look collectively who is that person and where does that person come from and what is the family and what is the ethnicity we do not need this crime ever the $911.00 people can be charged with murder they can be that bad it's really all they need to be charged with the murder of $3000.00 people it's going to get us to the same place but in federal court in the united states if you add terrorism it's a way to just make the sentence longer i and i will make you just. want to make this point because if very important acts of amnesty international never use the word terrorism for exactly the reasons that mom because they tickle was it's
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a political word and it's always defined politically he's at the i'm just going to give the last word to each of the last question this is from going to have page do you think the closure of guantanamo bay detention camp is that enough just to have it closed is that enough i'm just going to ask you very quickly because we're chuckling at the end of the shah mohammed is that is that enough. it's necessary but it's not enough because you know sort of america is the most powerful country in the world and it's a democracy and this should lead in different degree who lies everywhere and grows all the secret to guantanamo moore's law around the world that's the one we know about all right nancy go ahead it's a start but it's not enough we have to and indefinite detention we can't simply close guantanamo and move these human beings to somewhere else where they're going to be detained indefinitely so most of them have to happen we have that we have to
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have due process and the rule of law. i had yeah i agree with both of those and finally there also needs to be accountability there needs to be accountability for what happened to mohamedou and to hundreds of other men like him who are on justly imprisoned it there needs to as nancy said there needs to be the rule of law and justice we cannot move forward into what we need to move forward we need to close guantanamo mediately we need to end indefinite detention we also need to look at what happened why it happened and hold people accountable who need it happening again license to that it was an atrocity that needs to be dealt with i want to leave you with one more voice of of a viewer who saw the film and the film inspired her have a listen have another. i think it stand out to me from watching the movie it's just a fact that you know it's really hard to even who wrap your mind around the fact
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that such a place exists. in the world and in the most civilized nation in 2021 and how we do story can leave you very angry very inspired as was the fact that you know his whole take away from this whole experience is forgiveness and the thing that really stands out to me in the whole movie is that saying that in arabic on the word free in forgiveness i'm one in the same thing the mauretania is coming out in theaters right now thank you to the holiday to nancy to daphne for being on the strain today thank you each of us for your comments as well a scene x. time take everybody.
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indonesia recovers the culprit voice recorder of a jet that crashed almost 3 months ago killing all 62 people but. this is al jazeera live from doha also coming up several ethnic groups are threatening to join the revolution and fight against being miles military. emotional testimony at the trial of george.

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