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we told our manager that he still refused to come into the store. and do you know what. the manager decided to do about that he instructed one of my coworkers to call the police and so did you know if that happened. that somebody did call the police or was it you call the police about it. was another coworker correct and. did you. ask the corker to make the call. and were you present when he made the call correct so you were there next to him or something. and so at some point did the police response in the store occurred and when they responded did you see the officers actually come into the store. i do not recall. did they deal with you when they came to the store you know you know who
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they dealt with they wouldn't talk to my manager. and. you were not involved in the conversations with the officers at all at that no. so what did you do i was still working cashier just went about your business record and. then you did that as you continued working did you notice a commotion out in front of the store credit oh it wasn't for 3 or attention nothing i just saw. a few people 1st and then the crowd grew larger and pretty soon the store was empty as well so there was no one that i needed to help inside the store so that i proceeded to go outside to us. when you saw this crowd gathered where was the crowd it was right where the bus stop is on chicago so right for a little while for no sanitation i'm sorry i spoke over you. so as i said it was just
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10 paces to the left of the bus stop. and. so the bus stop as you're looking out from the store. could. and so did you in fact decided to go out and look into what the crowd was gathering for crit and when you went out there what did you see i saw people yelling and screaming i saw. there with his name on george's not on. the ground so let me back up just a little bit now. you say there are cumulus or shogun correct now did you know who that person was at the time. so you just learned his name since them correct so i was that person wearing a police uniform correct and where did you see that individual on top of george
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bush and you didn't. well i didn't see mr point that day you did not know him before that and correct you recognize him as the person who had been in the store earlier in the person that you're trying to talk to in the s.u.v. . and did you see any other officers in the area i saw i think it's nice officer tal where did you see him he was in front of the crowd kind of time people to stand. and you remember about how many people were in the crowd. about several. and. when they were. well what did you see the officer understood for you what was the relation of their to what was happening. george was motionless limp. child and seemed very. he was in a. resting steadily. meaning like he
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just rested his knee on his neck. and what did you do when you. pulled my phone out 1st and i called my mom and so they are not to come downstairs and then i started recording and to make a recording correct keep that or no one. later on that night and. i deleted it because when they picked your joe up off of the ground the ambulance went straight on 38th and said i'm going straight on chicago and if you hadn't sought me out these way to get to the hospital would have been straight out chicago so that's me kind of. made it like clear that he was no longer with so you thought he had died. i quite sure why that would you know make you delete the video oh i just didn't want to have to show it to anyone and be questioned. and
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so after you called your mom you start taking a video wanted to do after that. i was recording and. one of my coworkers was pushed by an officer. and. so what. and you seen the corker do right before the court he was. yelling out of certain kind of other people like overdoing and asking them to expose. if he's breathing see if he's ok kind of thing so did he leave the sidewalk curb area go on the road. correct so far i do not recall this quarter of yours that got pushed you know all he was that day. i don't know is he older or younger than your younger. teenager but. and.
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after he got pushed did you see what happened to him or what became of him. yes. my other coworker just like grabbed him up. about him and so removed him from the scene. and prior to coming into court we show you a security video from cup forwards that shows that area. and that area while you were out there. and did that appear to depict truly and accurately the type of period during which you were out there during the sense of credit and your honor and offer what we've marked as exhibit $33.00. 133 is received. and i'm going to start showing exhibit 33 and we may pause this like we have done the other video sorry.
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i'm not positive right here for a moment. you recognize the same crew and in this is you in the foreground. right and what were you doing right at that moment that was when i was calling my mom to tell him not to come down the stairs and if you were to come down the stairs from where you were living correct grid is the door she would have come out or that have been just seen. in your take that's the house and just show her that door would be it would swing open right here so she would come down she come right into the sea correct. and then you talked about a coworker who was younger than you who came out is that the individual in a white t. shirt. and ok so that we will. continue to run
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exhibit 33 please.
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i want to posit right here please. for the record this is a 2834 and can you describe for the jurors what you're doing at this moment. was recording the scene as you watch farther over towards the scene craig really by the door were your mom would've come out of chicago. and the individual in the white t. shirt. what he had stepped off the curb into the street here correct correct. and so then let's continue to run exhibit 33 please. interview deposited there please 82841 is that the moment you were talking about when your coworker got pushed good. and. did you see at all anywhere in there where
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he touched a police officer you know. and so then you are now standing around behind that group of people correct did you know anybody in that crowd. my 2 corded all right so right now if you could just put like a line or a dot on where your 2 corkers are. and both of those are individuals who went out during a 2nd trip to the s.u.v. correct. and did you know any of the other people there in the crowd at the time. ok. did you know miss. he was you know all the canard that to her she there at the time could. you see where she was now. and. how did you know her just to school.
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and. all right so then let's continue to run exhibit 33 please. don't stop right here please. can you describe for the jurors and what we're seeing what's going on there in that segment of the video it was a boy and. co-workers kind of grabbed up to a coworker and brought him back inside and i was shot i like. and so when his coworkers came to get the young man in the white t. shirt. he went with them back into the store. and you were following them. all right so let's continue to run 33 of them.
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pause here for a moment please. for the record 2904 you tell the jurors what happened what you were doing here at this point. i think i was just kind of emotional and i went to african-american i was standing there on the curb and i was just like like they're not going to help them this is what we have to do so ok. this is did you know this is a good. as i do you got a conversation with another person standing there crew and when you walked up there we saw just before i stopped at there was a young girl there a green shirt did you see her when you were walking walking up their courage remember seeing her in the store really or could you know she was you know. and you remember. in the cashier when she was in the start of the credit. and then can we continue to run exhibit 33 please.
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i'm going to pause here for a moment. the record to reflect a 2955 you saw you standing there with your hands on your head for a while correct credit was going through your mind during that time. i just believe
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. i think of the. white guilt. if i were to choose not to in the book this could have been avoided. we also saw another individual get pushed by an officer correct. and what did you do after that happened i was just trying to go on the times that. so. and all right so let's continue running 30 through them. who are you talking to there mr martin.
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ok so that takes us to the end of exhibit $33.00 you were going back into the store . and so when did you just continue to work your shift. and. so did you would continue to work at come forward as long as you got. by there 1st so you. have no further questions or. the soonest.
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morning sir good morning thank you for being here today you testified that you are currently or 20 years old 1919 sorry i do. and at the time you were both living and working fluids right in the apartments and you were living and working there correct. and you testified that you had worked there for about a month and
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a half to 2 months before this incident 4 months for. you would agree that. you've made a few statements in connection with this case chris you were 1st interviewed by agents of the bureau of criminal apprehension and f.b.i. back temper 10th of last year do you recall that occurred and then you have had another meeting as of march 12th with prosecutors and other agents of the b.c.s. right. and you understand that those statements were recorded correct and you understand that we've been provided with transcripts 3rd have you had an opportunity to review your statements prior to coming into court. yes and you have an opportunity to review your transfer her. so
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i just kind of want to walk through again you we've now watched a few videos from both inside the store outside the store and from a neighboring business agreed credit and you've had an opportunity to address some things that happened. inside of the store outside of the store throughout the whole incident occurred. so. you were working your shift you said started about 3 pm that day. and this incident ultimately was around 730 to 8 o'clock hour right. and you. video and we were watching the 1st video you and your coworker seem to get along quite well heard talking laughing having fun interacting with customers things of that nature. and the story sort of like a one stop kind of
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a store can do a lot of things in the store credit you can they've got a. cell phone service cell phone repair snacks and then there's the separate tobacco where right now in the store is there where we see you behind the counter or is there an entrance for employees into the tobacco area that you go through. could you just a question and sure so i understand when a customer comes in to cup foods there are centrally to door that they can go through. one of them on the right hand side is the tobacco shop right and no one in the left hand side is the convenience store that the general store are and the tobacco shop is separate because you have to be a certain age to go into the store heard it to be 21. right. when. 18 to buy products or to simply go into gold or to go it know to go into the
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tobacco portion i'm not sure that age requirement people came in the motorhome there were are is within the store is there a partition or some sort of glass that inside the store separates the tobacco area from the convenience store credit and so my question is is where you stand do you have to walk through that convenience store door and go into the tobacco store door or is there a separate entrance where you can get into the tobacco or. from where you started if you were if you were the cashier there right oh you can just walk over to those about as such and you don't have to go. that's what i mean exactly thank you i'm sorry i may may may have not been articulating that as well you know words are. and the. you were in the store and you observed
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a person who you later learned was george floyd come into the store career and you ultimately assisted him in the store. and he was in the store and the person that you observed in the front passenger seat was also in the video as we just watched it correct he had on a pair of rest wet pants and a white t. shirt i believe there are and did you have any interactions with him while you were in the store credit you i believe you said that he had also attempted to use a counterfeit credit but you stopped him credit did that happen before or after your interaction with mr moviefone. and so you gave when he handed you that bill you knew that that bill was a fraud occurred and you immediately kind of say hey. i'm not taking this.
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right you knew the store policy at that time right. and the store policy being if if you took a counterfeit bill. that was you came your responsibility for it and so would get deducted from your paycheck in other words credit and this you have some sort of like store tab where you could buy merchandise yourself at the store or services and it would get to doctor from your salary career. and so. that interaction with that other individual proximately was it earlier in the day was it you know a few minutes before you interacted with mr lloyd how long before it got up earlier . so both mr floyd and that individual had been in the store earlier in the day as well or kurd and was that an hour or 2 hours do you recall i do not recall. and but you remember him when he came back in the store later in the
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afternoon remember he was the guy that had tried to hand you a counterfeit bill from or heard you had changed his clothes didn't look any different. things ok. and so when mr ford in this other individual came back in the store we observed kind of him walking around the store right. and you were helping other customers you were talking to your coworkers seriously you were paying a lot of attention to what mr ford was doing at all times he was and still are but not that you had an opportunity to see the video you get to see some of his other interactions and things of that nature it occurred now. the there were other customers in the store stores a pretty busy store occurred and your manager that you talked. notice that
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he had what appeared to be a pistol in his career do you know him to carry a firearm at the store. and. the. when you watch the video did you see mr floyd sort of do some little dance. at one point no comeback. but you didn't observe that when he was in the store. and if it's on the video it would be on the video. again so at some point mr floyd appeared to purchase some food as well right there that being a banana looked like in the video did you sell him the banana. and . when he handed you that $20.00 bill you testified that you immediately knew it was a fake didn't appear to be the same type of fake or maybe even the same counterfeit
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bill that you had refused earlier in the day credit did appear to be someone r. and you took that bill and you held it up and you kind of looked at it through the light it occurred what were you looking for. that's a good question i have no idea. just looking at it i don't know but you immediately recognize it to be a counterfeit. and. you know some bills have like metal or some sort of a straight through it if you've been looking for something like that i'll be honest i don't know what i was looking for i just knew. you could tell based on the texture of the bill and the color of it as i stated earlier you know. so and you. you have had a pleasant interaction with mr ford. you were asking him about sports and things of that nature. and you formed the opinion that mr floyd was under
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the influence of something. and you base that on sort of i think you said a delay in his speech in response right so you were happy unlike a conversation that we may be having right now that's wrapping. if you asked him a question there would be much more of a slower or delayed response. and i believe in your interviews you also indicated that he was having some trouble. with certain words couldn't you try to form the words so he was delayed in his speech and. you believed him to be under the influence of something current. and. you were present when your coworker called 911 could and do you recall him telling
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911 that he appeared to be under the influence. and you had also had by the time 911 was called and had 2 other interactions with mr ford. outside of the car could and so you made the decision after mr ford had handed you this counterfeit $20.00 bill. that you were going to call him out on it like you did with the earlier that could and was that in part because you felt maybe he's under the influence. partially partially the other person not to come in and kind of seemed like he was trying to scheme like he knew it was a fake he was trying to get over i thought that george didn't really know that it was a fake so i thought i'd be doing him a favor ok trying to help but trying to help him up. and. and and could you have. i'm just asking generally could you have just let it kind
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of go and then told your manager later hey. could and. but you made the decision to talk to your manager show him the bill and your manager instructed you to go talk to mr floyd and this friend out in the car. so when you went out to the car the 1st time with your 1st coworker you. had a relatively short conversation right and you went to the passenger side of the vehicle and the person in the red pants on the white t. shirt that was the same person. that had previously tried to pass the fake $20.00 bill curry and you were encouraging them to come into the store. we were kind of saying you got to come in with the fake bill we've got to deal with this right. you specifically told them that. he had
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used a counterfeit but credit and that they needed to come in and either pay for the cigarettes or talk to him and or talk to the manager. ok. and how would you describe the general tenor of that conversation what i mean by that is was it pleasant or was it. more aggressive is pleasant was in the way shape or form aggressive it was is pretty annoying just come on you guys you got it was your 1st attempt to kind of say hey come on in guys you got to deal with us and so and you were trying to be polite to these gentlemen . and you then. had that conversation and during their 1st conversation you said that mr floyd was not really speaking to you. and you
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said that he was kind of putting his hands up and putting his head back and things of that nature it created and you then went back into the store talk to your manager again and told him they were not agreeable to coming into the store credit and. the 2nd time you left the store. you were sort of following the other coworkers agreed could and you would agree that that video sort of show of the 3 of you. almost running out of the store credit and you were you wanted to get them before they drove away right. or why would you run the 2nd time could. just the so they didn't drive away or for some other reason good. you know in terms of the 2nd exchange at the vehicle. the coworker went to the.

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