actually can continue are you actively working on him the whole time you are with us and you were traveling on route to the hospital did you. at some point tell him her shock or mr shock us can you just describe why why you did that and how that came. over should a mother in the vision who have believed to still run of course will speak to her and that is a different order of the program protocol which indicates the fruition. ok so at some point well you know when was it that you detected pulseless electrical activity in rolled over to your mother. and. i think you just said the bad is the shock of all read them or your protocols yes also see doctors are showing more of right. now aren't you. what made you notice the change there in terms of the rhythm we periodically

juergen. it was what you noticed the change was the business to play already on the lucas device lucas device was working on him meaning given compressions because the voice was doing a procedure at the time. so i usually he was in a system but then did you at some point. saw the monitor that there was a possibility of possible and lots of these are right we were going to have is your pulse triggered. it looks like the rhythm changes the bullshitter. are going to be improved though. and was there any effect it just delivered a shock and he remained. according to who gets to you know we continue no. continue no. proof as so just to be clear i mean. when someone is in the state that you're describing. are you looking for any opportunity to minister a shock or provide additional to that you might be able to see the trend of giving

a 2nd chance of course. but ultimately were you able to generate a pulse or a positive change from that shock that with mr. reviews i think that anything. changed after that shock today did i think get better but mr foy. oh absolutely when you were writers hospital are. you at that point. going to the hospital to provide a report. of information out of the treatment rendered. and what was mr ferguson dish. at the time you're writing. it was your career. grows.

so we've been watching the. show when we've been. listening to the testimony of derek smith a paramedic who went to the city council and treated george lloyd in those crucial minutes and let's go back to the trial and just man it was. at any point in time during your treatment in care of mr floyd. were you

ever able to resuscitate him success. no did he ever regain a pass. from the time you write down to the time when you ran to the hospital long . and. did anything change in terms of your assessment of his condition and status. the assures this is a drop off of the hospital story for us now. you know.

again another short interruption we think to the testimony of derek's myth the paramedic this is of course the trial of their children for the murder of the georgia floor. derrick smith one of the paramedics that arrived at the scene. so after those 9 minutes where their children had his knees on george floyd's neck now we heard from this witness that he did some chest compressions on george floyd but that when he arrived at the scene he thought george floyd was dead. for being here that's. just

a few questions for you very many are. going to a little are is it common to feel for using a virus. of our. own. to have leaders because power. is so to be. intensified when you arrived on scene. for mr through a. initially when you 1st came closer that time officer show than was. me was still on the back of mr right. with the video shot of me with he was still the head of the vision so i don't remember the exact location of his knee was group log on.

i'm sure what's been admitted as exhibit 56 you were able to feel where his carotid artery was while officer shoguns knee was in the place mr. testified that a police officer got in the back of the. ambulance with you and began chest compressions at your direction. as you were preparing to engage in resuscitative efforts. very much is are you a member of the group correct you know or. officers in. the back do

a chest compressions you're getting side tracked your sir went to the 2nd location so that your partner could get back in the back if you take over for the officer right. not to go we needed everybody a good time ok why didn't you why didn't you just have the officer continue so you go straight to the hospital is not what we do is because he's not on him. anyway person to do just grocery store isn't really hopeless want to sort of just the russians question my question is not really empty correct i don't know what sort of asian the individual again very moderate you have a partner who could help you know what i want as many people are going to hope you know that you are history of the us and that's where the fire came through and ultimately the officer was kind of put out of the room. for. never.

mind if you serious about. that. it was the end of that testimony we just saw there a short cross-examination by eric nelson for the fans of their experience the paramedic who was at the scene. george floyd was taking that into an ambulance. now waiting to see who else might be called as the next. witnesses certainly from there. he painted a picture of george being in a very critical condition when he arrived his words were he thought george floyd was dead. 'd weight here arrived let's listen to his being small.

because. you have received pretty. before you begin if you put the 1st 4 or vocal little bit it's not very flexible but are so perfect would you start off stating your name and spelling each of your days during normal je or e m y there or to your it. was over. so you can i'm. going to take a relief. thank you and yes sir if you know where you're. from minneapolis fire department currently on the side of 1st issue number 17. and what's your title one title i mean captain and how long have you been a kept me up

a fire department. promoted to captain in 2007. 2000 and. 13 of 4 occurs in 1415 hours of the term chiefs and no demoted to captain in 2017 and how long have you been in the fire department since 2000. 21 years. have you served in the horizon the positions over that period. it was a firefighter from 2000 to 2 until 2007. captain from 2007 to 2014 potosi eve 214216 in the captain and into the 16 to the present and what is your educational background. what do you do in terms of training to say become a firefighter in the 1st and. when i started i applied in 9098.

the department what's what was hard one provided the department provided all of our training in team basic has met for for one until so maybe you can just describe a lot of what else things are. just 21 years ago when you think yeah right think what if you want to happen if we are given training to the e.m.t. basic level now to ply when needs are to be an e.m.t. that required classroom training as well as hands on training and then passing the national registry. in te test and then becoming a licensed e.m.t. we can have continuing education to maintain or search it certification. and that that is every 2 years we have to recertify both for the state of minnesota and the way the option to maintain a national certification level the firefighting was coursework designed and delivered by the fire department and that also includes the hazmat training. has

hazmat training sounds interesting but medicine just is the latin subspecialty of the training so you. it is yes it is a subsection that's actually a circle back to the m t p part of that system are you. is it a life internal license yankee or a certified e.m.t. for your job as a firefighter i believe i believe it is a certification ok so are you currently certified as an e.m.t. yes it happens when you choose an employment right now are you up to date on all of the. certification requirements yes ma'am to my knowledge and again based on what you were describing for training for firefighters is that part of the sort of standard training fat firefighters meaning are they all aunties and many of the many of us yes i'm ok.

i'm going to get back to your day to day as a as a captain with minneapolis fire department what are your job duties to which level of being it is simply put i'm in charge of maintaining the care and care and treatment and trading of my crew our quick moment and our station. which is a broad which is broad but then within that i am in charge of ensuring that we are called city rules regulations have appropriate interactions with the public work well with other agencies maintain our training i'm in charge of all documentation records and then on all of our calls i'm in charge of the overall safety and well being of our crew and sure that we. act appropriately so there say you're in a leadership position that we formed and do you still despite being i guess

a supervisor and leadership do you still respond to calls yes ma'am it is a crew we were together and that's part of your day to day responding to calls that's. what portion of your work as a minneapolis fire department employee. is medical in nature do you respond a lot of medical calls to cyrus on a lot of medical. number that i've seen for the department and then for nationally would be about 80 percent of our work is medical in nature so any of us who assume the firefighters just fight fires that is that not the case know you've been watching your own shows. because that 80 percent back on fed that is what statistics show us are so the vast majority of your job is responding to medical costs as opposed to fighting irish sense correct. what types of medical

costs to you respond to you know if you give some examples to texas and. certainly . the simplest way woods would be anything from birth through post that anyone calls and i would want to about we will respond with either concert with or ahead of our to support the paramedics so is it common for you to work with them in your job absolutely and why is that. why we work with them yet why is there this. when we get what's the need to work together. the paramedics are higher trained they have a higher level of standard of care they are more skilled say they possess their schooling is longer and but the idea would be in emergency medical response that if something is a life or death issue having an e.m.t. arrive with a quick d.

an oxygen mask and every other tools we can provide care for someone who is in critical care critical condition until the paramedics arrive and then they can then they can take over to a higher level and we support them. and you did i think you just used the term a.d.t. can you just describe what that is it is a what would be called a heart starter automatics. i'm going to bust the letters right now so i would just say that is this the heart started is what is used when someone is in cardiac arrest and are you as a as an employee the fire department do you carry that type of equipment or are you able to assess with that type of thing oh yes i have both we do carry and all are rigs as part of our center complement and i can use it when i find in this building . i'm going to direct your attention to may 25th of last year. did you what were you on duty as a captain with the minneapolis star and i'm acting i was and did you respond to

a call that evening. you said we got did you respond to a call that evening we responded to several yes i'm ok and specifically with respect to the area well various cup foodstuff there a call that 9 you initially responded to that location far isn't so maybe you could if you could please just describe. what was the nature of the call that you were initially responding temp. we were dispatched initially code 2 which is a non emergency response i believe it's 30 pm give or take a couple seconds. and we were given very little information i believe it said assist paramedics perhaps but just said engine 17 could to. either 30 the chicago or 3759 chicago cup foods and so.

do you want me to explain more something disappear at air 9 and i'll just ask a follow up question how how did that information come to you in other words how did that all initially come into your fire department for your station of the majority of calls will come in through central dispatch so. they control how the state of the station will open up meaning the radio in the lights will come on and then there are signifying tones that indicate the general the nature of call the call and then and on top of that the dispatch will provide whatever information they have to as to the nature of a call so with us that's an be evening of may 25th he said around 8 30 am what. were you with the station at that time as a result and would you have did you hear some particular tone that alerted you to a scope to you know yes it was the state or the state the lights come on the

speakers click along with an audible click and then there's the 2 short tones close staccato and then followed by the dispatch announcing. where we're going and does that come over your speaker system yes or no. so it was at that time you were aware that it was a code 2 and the location where you were going is that right yes or did you proceed about ok. we did did you get any other information about the call either on the route or are some other time it was a shrew and what was that shortly shortly after leaving the station. dispatch came over the radio at this point it's our red radio and stated engine 17 code 3 which is red lights and sirens emergency response. when you heard code 3. does that mean the call is elevated at that point meaning

mark morse code there is more serious than coattail or did you have any other information about that or the reason for that i believe the only information that we had on our screen initially was code 2 for one with the mouth injury i believe. it was updated and then you say i did and it was a just that account 3 from without any supplemental information as to why you know what i believe so ok so you also met lee did you respond to the area. 30 times yes and what did you do when you arrived there. we the reg stops my partner and i got off the rig he looked around for a patient and when you that there what did you see. there were

several police squads one part police i believe into minneapolis or 2 or 3 minneapolis police cars i recommend were purchased in the vicinity in the area. couple officers were standing on the street and a couple people were helpful people were outside was there an ambulance at the time that you were there no ma'am and were you able to identify a patient upon arrival knowing there was no one on the street. what did you know x. . we basically went clockwise around our rig i spoke briefly with one police officer and then we went into into the store. and did you come into contact with anybody in a start i guess an and what was the nature of about what happened in the start

could you were specific groups sheriff well upon entering the started you have any did you interact with anybody. who was. in the area who had been in the area you know yes and we spoke as i said i spoke to one police officer as i descended the rig kimber around through a crowd of maybe 6 or 7 people who were at the mouth of the store and in the vestibule or entryway and then i went into the store still looking for a patient ok so. you want to start looking for a patient and you have an interaction anybody's and there are a number of people 6 or 7 people that you have an interaction with any of those people. do not speak with any i'm not sure which one but in your head yes yes did you have a conversation with any of us. as i was walking through i heard what people were say and then but i was pretty much looking for patient.

i. guess i might have spoken to someone who was working there briefly. and while i was looking for patient essentially on the ground i did encounter an off duty firefighter and then i briefly spoke with one of the police officers who was at the back of the store ok so let's just talk about those 2 things so you interacted both with an off duty firefighter and also. law enforcement officer who was present is that right so let's 1st start rath. your objective you said you were looking on the floor for a patient was your primary goal to find a patient. yes ma'am and when you were not able to see one easily. and entered into the store. what did you do at that point

was that you talked to them on force an officer and i made my way back toward the back of the store looking for a patient or it was a very key it was the cause confusing because we do not have a lot of information so i did not have a cookbook patient description i did not have. anything else and so i was essentially yes looking on the floor for someone. and at that point though the crowd that i had thrown through which i had walked. were those. people were upset and they were i was getting the in the sense from them that there was there was an injured person and that's always the so i was looking for someone on the ground and did you find an injured person on the ground knowing so. what did you do next. as i was my partner my partner mostly stayed and spoke with the other 2 for fighter who was. agitated too distraught i'm not. somewhere between there she was fairly upset and i

as my dose reviser is to kind of cut through a lot of the extraneous information fiber we actually need to deal with and so i moved to the back i did see the police officer in the back of the store. which would have been the. selfies corner of the buildings i'm talking to one of those employees behind the barricade in and then approached him back and then where you directed to another location. right as i was asking him what was going on he said they need the police and the medics left they need you. right about simultaneously over his radio and over ours because we have separate dispatchers we both have the information that the paramedics needed us at a different location. and they also mentioned not to the firefighter to you know who that ought to be firefighter. who she is now running yes and yes

i miss them genevieve hinting at the time did you have limited interaction with her i work too i'm sorry if you're asking prior to that day. right when you arrived on scene did you immediately recognize her as somebody that you know know why. but i think i walked right past her and then she popped up to my left went through some of the store and then after the fact do you now know that that was an individual that you know to work with us on your hands and that once we started speaking i did a double take and i clocked that i knew her and we can and then we spoke. and what information and did you have a point in terms of what was happening and what's going on. the police officer said that the medics had left lee needed they needed us code 3 dispatch said the same thing and then from the off duty firefighter and from the crowd i was here in

inferring that there was an injured man who had been. sustained injuries in a scuffle with the police or the situation of the please. i'm going to put up on this train what's already been admitted asked exhibits 68. minutes. and then. say distract your arrival could you just describe what's shown and exhibit 68 means. that is are for truck engine 17 that is stepping up from the captain side. we are facing he spent on 30th street cup foods behind us there is a squad to my to my ford and right from this photo to my left and i believe those are the police officer i spoke to whose by camera though that was said so i was about to make contact with him so does that show you up on your

initial arrival the scene this man. and if we could move to if that if it's 9 minutes. does someone come off that so exhibit $69.00 is now on this train. if you can just describe who is pictured and that's why there is need to the right of the screen and that is for jennifer hall to the left committee room from her side of the room she was a rookie who started with us at the end of march and so were you both. responding to get her essentially yes when she was with her. and we love to exhibit. 7 new audience. you describe walking into the store and seeing some other individuals would you describe what's shown in exhibit 70. or to a complete school would. have north on the street believe those might be park

police going to my left. for people outside one of whose or for henson i do not recognize walking through do you recognize her now for motive could you just use that as the stylus or your finger but it's a touchscreen if you could just indicate where she gets these. green mark above where indicating genevieve hanson is can you just indicate where you are in this photo. and there's an area where you just made that mark and then. could you identify jennifer hall as well did you know any of the other individuals in this in this photo. and if we could move to exhibit 71 please. i'm sorry 7 you keep please. all right so did you ultimately enter the store and have a brief interaction as you described with of on force.