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you can see this officer ariel here. yes and he appears to be holding something so right. yes that the crime scene was. i believe so. so if you testified at some point you heard that mr floyd had died correct. yes. and. do you recall how you received that which. was later on in the night sergeant dale actually informed me that he had was reported passed. is that day 5 of the derek show trial live from minneapolis in the united states hello i'm kemal santa maria 1500 hours g.m.t.
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which makes it about time and i am in minneapolis as i say the 5th day of the trial and who we are hearing from this morning it is john edwards minneapolis police sergeant the man on the night george. explaining how he deployed his offices the number that he was able to send out and what they saw when they arrived at that scene outside the cup food store let's return to the court officer with c.n.n. officer. responded to the scene and they were. officer king in the house realignments transports arjun's. publish exhibit 90. sedition allotting work camera footage. do you see officer or sergeant ashe. in this photo yes would you take your stylist dress rehearsal. and let's keep. i don't see what
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schemes will. use this so according to the time stamp 221814 so right correct. that was around the time the transport officers arrived and i'm assuming the transport would have happened fairly shortly after that. and they transported leaving king to sit room $100.00 within city hall room $100.00. and it was about shortly after that about 15 minutes or so later that the 2 culprits. yes i was notified by zimmerman that the b.c. a is on the way and i'll be taking over the scene so we requested me and might as requested just stay put but it seems. you recall when you ride i don't remember what time there were no show you
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exhibit 91. you remember the name of the agent oh. yes i believe his name was. a special agent michael phelps. can you tell the jury what you see here exhibit 91 people that appears to be special agent michael fellow standing on intense a moment. here yes. that's a 2300. right kirk that's the approximate time that the pca took over the scene. clearly. you saw special agent phil have a conversation with tenet zimmerman after that conversation took place did you have a conversation with zimmerman. nor. had a conversation with both of them afterwards. roof interaction. when did you lieutenant
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did you turn it zimmerman remain at the scene after the piece you took over. came up to me in just told me pretty much that. it's in the b.c.s. ends now and. they'll be here and just to ensure that myself and. my officers remain on scene for scene security until. they're done there. and that we can take down the crime scene tape in and we've. published exhibit 92. this is especially agent phil. yes that is during that period of time you were speaking with getting instructions on what to do with the scene. yes. did he ask you to do anything with
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what 320 yes what are you telling me that. they were taken custody of the squad and mr ford's vehicle and are we notice that the squad is still running yes media opening up in power down. which i did. did you remove anything from the vehicle. at this point in the b.c. as a scene you're no longer taking any. of steps or collecting evidence is that right but did you make observations of other officers doing those things watching such as . anything with vehicle no. no. do you see anybody doing anything with the vehicles any other officer that's what
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you're asking. did you see the other officers taking photographs looking at the vehicle. you see and hear a forensic scientists or people you recognize of the forensic scientist come on to the scene. just. the team of people that. special agent michael phil had with him and those are several pca people there those are the folks who are allowed to see is that right yes. at some point did you watch. mr flake's vehicle actually total way by to be seeing yes ultimately. special agent here had both the squad car as well as mr ford's vehicle told from the scene. you watch them to yes i was still on scene publish exhibit 94.
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is this an image of the away squad 320 s. . i mean are you told the s.u.v. at this point is that right. and you told the jury that what you did with the scene after the vehicles total way. of the b.c.s. vehicles told away. it was very early on after that. michael phil told me that they were all finished now and we could take down the crime scene tape in and leave. to do so yes sir publish exhibit 95. 33454 seconds what is this what does it show. 3 34 am and
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bets me those are my hands. take down the tape. so at this point the crime scene was clear no longer secured. career. thank you very much an offer question your. first prosecution witness of the day is john edwards. minneapolis police sergeant judy sargent on the night but george floyd was killed taking us through moment by moment the procedure of how he deployed his officers and what they did when they got there. at the moment i would expect him to be cross-examined
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by the defense though the defense as i see on another screen at the moment do seem to be having a conversation. just now conferring amongst the team remember there are multiple attorneys on each side. it may be however and we don't have already a from the courtroom just now that the when the defense actually don't have any questions for this witness and in fact i think that's the case so. so the next witness will be sworn in by judge peter cahill and again seeing on some other screens people coming into the room now. 3 callers have a minister. and it sounds like it will be lieutenant zimmerman who is one of the officers who we had referred to in the previous testimony i do you.
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will. get if you give us your full name spelling each of your names to start off. your full name spelling each of your names ok also if you could remove your mask ok . mr pritchard zimmerman. r i c h e r d. e r m a n. mr friend thank you can you please tell the jurors what you do for a living. police officer with the police department. along with your police officers since june 3rd 981. and all that with minneapolis no. the 1st 4 years. from $81.00 to $85.00 i work per the film or county sheriff's department in southeast minnesota what did you do there i was
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a patrol deputy responding to 911 calls and so that it was 1005 that you started with minneapolis yes i. started it was june 5th of $85.00. and are you a licensed software instead of us oh yes i am when did you 1st obtain your license and sir when did you 1st obtain your license. 3rd 981. and as a police officer having that license are you required to do certain things to maintain that license yes what do you what kinds of things you have to do. we have to do continue to. lead and the other professional license we have to. do 40 hours of different education professional education. in a certain time period i should pitch one or 2 years and if you don't somebody is going
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to let you know right yes they will and so since 1000 anyone have you done all that's been required to maintain your license yes i have. when you started with the minneapolis police department 1985. what was your job duties. i was a patrolman. i were the north side precinct it's called precinct 4 and i work the 3rd precinct it's called precinct 3 of course and then my permanent assignment was the 5th precinct which is like franklin nicholas to. head up an avenue like street. so when you're working as a patrol officer what kind of things do you do yeah well we respond in 111 calls. we. you know. deter crime
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or try to deter crime i should say. and. yeah that's kind of what we do traffic control out on the streets every day yes. we sever do you work right. yes and so then did your job duties change of national. 990. crack became early problem prevalent in the late eighty's and so i joined a crack team. in the precinct where there were 4 observation a sergeant and we would. you know do search warrants looking for drugs that kind of thing. and so what year was that. partly what year was that 909993 and what did you do then in 1903. i took the sergeant's exam and passed it. was
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assigned to the adult sex crimes unit. and so what does it mean to be promoted to sergeant. well you. take a series of tell us. what you're promoted. you express your interest is patrol or investigations. and so i talked to the tenet in charge of the sex crimes unit and expressed my interest so you mentioned having to take an exam yes just like sit down and like we do in school taking an exam yeah it was a. written exam and once you pass that phase then you would take. an oral exam and then you were given your stores and so you became a sergeant did some supervisory responsibilities come with that yes you just
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describe for the jurors what supervisor what kinds of responsibilities a sergeant takes. well as the investigative sergeant. you know you're signed a case to follow up with the victims. and you do search warrants in when you during search warrant you have officers that assist you so you'll assign them duties that . you know such as. you know assisting with the search warrant. and also have responsibilities to make sure the officers underneath you are properly trained yes absolutely yeah. you know i would never do search warrants i would explain to the ops years that we don't want anyone to. to get hurt is that the officers or the subjects. and so.
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just continuing with your history then you want into the sex crimes unit as a sergeant and subsequent to that to your responsibilities change yes. about that. 995. the homicide unit was expanding. because of the amount of murders that were occurring in minneapolis in 1995 so they brought in. myself and one other guy from the. robbery unit and we were side partners in the homicide unit. and which unit do you currently work. 995 and which which unit you currently work oh yes i'm sorry the homicide unit so from 1995 to today you've been in the homicide yes yes and did you at some time during that period receive another promotion yes elanders about that yeah in 2007. took
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a lieutenant 6 or 2006 i took a lieutenant's exam and that's a series of again. written tests. and oral if you pass that phase then you go on to the oral interview phase. and you're notified of your results and so you were promoted you to listen and yes i was so how did that change your responsibilities your job. well when usually when you're promoted you're assigned to a different unit than you're worked. but they asked me to stay in the homicide unit because of my experience. and so i. took over the job in 2008 november of 2008. and the duties are. called for every death suspicious. deaths where.
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you know it's clearly a homicide deaths where up cers have any question about how a person may have died i go out to the scenes. and you also supervise other officers yes i do just describe for the jury responsibilities supervising other officers yes we have right now we have 12 detectives on the site that make up 6 teams they work with a partner in homicide and. they're on rotation basis for being on call they're on call monday through monday and. when a team is on call or go to a scene assess. you know what the death may be involved and call the on call team to come in and start working the case. so you still respond
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to scenes yes but you also supervise the work of the investigators yes. every morning when i come in and. pull up it's called pulling up the cases in we. we pull up every death report in minneapolis and. a look through each report and assign a case that. i might have some questions about and talk to the detectives explain why i think this needs to be looked into and. that's monday through friday kind of thing and so are you there direct supervisor them yes. so you start with me apples police department 1005 yes do you know where you are in terms of seniority in minneapolis police department yes where's. number one.
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and she already. i hate to say this but. i. understood. where you were called out to a scene i may 25th of 2020 yes and do you recall. why you were called to that scene. response the respond initially to critical incidents. in a critical interest that can be anything from a death to a. serious injury of either officers or the public. choice called in on this one so were you technically on duty at that time. i was at home i was notified by my commander of the sense that that happened 38th of chicago. and then did you respond to that scene yes do
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you recall about what time it was that you arrived at the scene there was a little bit after 9 pm. and the location of 30th in chicago you're familiar with were you familiar with that location at that time yes . fair to say no yes stranger to calls of violent incidents at that intersection yes absolutely. and when you arrived. can you just describe for the jury what you 1st saw on your right at that location. 38th street. southwest corner 38th street. i saw a yellow tape up we call it's crime scene tape. around the intersection.
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i saw sergeant edwards who i know from work on his cell phone. and i saw 2 officer sed he was like in the middle of the scene kind of and then i saw 2 officers standing on the southwest southeast corner of the intersection and did you approach those 2 officers yes sir john edwards appeared to be busy on the phone saw i just walked up to the 2 officers. and i'm going to show you well. we had an opportunity before chords to show you a piece of body cam for the edge show as you approach a scene right yes and that appeared to be true and accurate representation of your approach to those 2 officers yesterday and that reflects the time as well yes your honor offer exhibit 96.
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and the 6 is received and i will call this 96. mos or. this is the intersection of 30th and chicago yes and it looks like the time reflected here is 2156 yes so for those of us who are difficulty with that kind of math even what what is the real time that we're about. 4 minutes to 10 ok so it was a closer to 10 when you arrived yes and there is an individual in stark and scanner to see but do you know where the individual is in the cross lock there. i don't know. and all right let's continue.
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our. stat right here please and just for the record 215653 you see across the intersection there has to be a person walking towards us. yes and you know who that is that would be me and i'll continue please.
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try to read it. so it appears that you. came to the scene in street clothes right yes and that's the moment where you walked up and talked to the 2 officers yes i did do you recognize those 2 officers you have no idea. and you care to be on the phone call who you were talking to. i don't know if was my commander or a deputy chief i'm not sure. so that when you arrived there. those 2 officers looked like you had just asked them a question did they give you some information about the incident yes.
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and based on that information. what did you conclude about their role in the end. there's a thing that we called involved officers. non-involved officers. based on what they had told me determined they were involved officers and why would it be important to distinguish between involved not to officer well if you're in a bald officer. you need to be brought down to bring $100.00 at city hall and you need to be brought down by a supervisor in separate cars. that's just current policy yes. and so after having a conversation with them what did you do next. i told talk to the sergeant i believe sergeant edwards. told him that we needed more people out here.
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he told me in those sergeant was on his way. i told him that we needed to get these 2 guys downtown. and which are in your member i'm sorry which sergeant that was i'm sorry which sergeant that was you talked to i thought i don't remember was it sergeant edwards believe that's who i 1st talked to. and. so showing you exhibit 90 we can please. and this is a photograph for the record of. 20 to 18. this is you speaking on the phone at that time correct yes. and. so here you're still dealing with things at the scene is that right yes. and so you
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think that sex the. sergeant that you talked to what kinds of things you're asked that sergeant take care of. the patrol sergeant to arrange to have the 2 officers involved ops or was brought down to room 100 and that we needed some more . at the scene and why did you think you need more officers at the scene. to search for any possible witnesses or video and. and so then after having that conversation. what did you do next. called in. 2 of the sergeants from homicide the call to him to assist me. and as you were doing that did you. undertake any other actions to try to down if i think that might be helpful for the investigation yes. if you stand in the
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center of the enter section and. you look for. first of all you look for pretty you know cameras that may be hanging from different buildings or. in this case milestone cameras what is a milestone camera it's a city camera that's set up in. different areas of the city and they could be monitored to. help us deter crime or to help if a crime occurs and being familiar with that location did you believe there was a milestone camera at that intersection and knew there was yes. i want to show you exhibit one. you recognize what's in that photograph yes and what is that the see other section of 38 and chicago do you know can you show
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the jurors if you want you can write on the screen there should be a little stylus there front of you where that camera is located a blip it was right. here. and how is it mounted or where is it. you know i'm not sure. on a light pole or under a light pole put. it up high some kind of pole or a fact sometimes we call them pole cameras for yeah yeah. the older. guys and me. when you were at the scene. did you learn more about the condition of mr ford the subject i did do you recall when in your time there you learned about that. it was after sergeant taylor
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arrived and started you know one of the sergeants you called in to assist your surgeon bob deal is one of the homicide teams called. and so this was after you to range the transport officers yes and what did you learn about his condition. mr floyd. and were some decisions made about what would become of this investigation based on your mission and what was decided. that the b.c. a would be in charge of the investigation the state bureau of criminal apprehension . and when the. that decision is made once the role of you know me apples police at that scene. well 1st it's to support the p.c.a. investigative team with whatever they might need. that night. and also it's to secure any witnesses that we may find. see if they would be willing to
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talk to the b. ca. also it's when you're at a scene trying to locate any video cameras or. filling in the b.c. agents that arrived. and in fact at some point did the cia agents arrive yes. and. when they arrive just describe a little bit for the jury what the process is. there right now. you know the be she agent. generally or specifically in this case just generally here. when the b.c.m. arrives they'll. come up to you and her briefing and you tell them what you have at the scene what you've learned. and. where people are out you know like in this case. the officers were brought to room
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100 that kind of thing. and then you tell us. what help they might need. and and then. specifically did something like that happen here in this case yes and i'm going to show you exhibit 91 on the screen please. and you recognize what's depicted in this photograph yes and again this is the intersection of 30th and chicago. you know that would be me in the center of the. shot. talking with the b.c. agent and this is starting a process of turning the scene over to them. so time your shows 2300 about 11 or 11 pm yes. and so then did you in fact turn the scene over to the cia yesterday that shortly thereafter concluded your involvement with the scene yes.
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you talked earlier about the training you need to do to maintain your peace officers license correct yes and as a minneapolis police officer you know where you get the training from. would get it from our training unit. will also get it from outside sources. you know different schools that are being put on. some that are specific to homicide. some that are. you know. a one day course some maybe a 2 week course the conflict does that training include instruction on the use of force yes. and how often do you get instruction on the use of force
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once a year and how many officers have to go through that use of force training every year every officer in the police department includes the guy who's number one in seniority puts me yes absolutely and. when you. well let me ask it this way are there also a minneapolis police department policies about the use of force yes or as you know you're required to be familiar with those yes you are. and when you do that use of force training doesn't cover. the policies as well yes you also do some physical activity. taken people are all around us we have a mat that we use that are there and it's. like a huge wrestling match. and.
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are you familiar with the use of force continuum yes that part of the me apples police department use of force policy yes just describe in general what that means to the jurors yeah so basically the use of force continuum is guidelines it's policy actually that we have to follow and it's when for instance when you're arrive at a scene no matter what the scene. the 1st level the lowest level would be just your presence at the scene in uniform. the next step up. maybe your your verbal skills that you would that you've learned to help defuse a situation or learn information about whatever the situation is.
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the next step would be like a soft. soft technique. escorting a person by their arm. that type of thing the next level would be a hard technique that's where you would use your. you know you maybe have to use your mace or handcuffs that kind of thing. and finally the top. level on the continuum is deadly force. and so those levels change. you know however and what for what reasons might that change you know well if you're. so you arrive at a scene and somebody is pointing a gun at you or shooting at you of course you go to the top level you know. and that's how they may change so it's relative to the threat
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yes. and. other different kinds of force and officers can use you know. and. have you ever in all the years you've been working for the minneapolis police department. been trained to kneel on the neck of someone who is handcuffed behind their back proposition no i haven't. is that if that were done would that be considered force absolutely what level of force might that be. that would be the top tier the deadly force why because of. the fact that. if you need is on a person's neck that can kill them. and in your training with
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them with the minneapolis police department. or the years have you received training on restraining people yes you couldn't use of handcuffs yes and. when you are handcuffing somebody when you handcuff them what is your responsibility as an officer with regard to that person. well could i give you an example. ok. let me ask you this. again if if you as an officer corps in training you handcuff somebody behind the back what's your responsibility with regard to that person from that moment. that person is yours. he's your responsibility.
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his safety is your responsibility. as well being and is your responsibility. once you handcuff somebody does that affect the amount of force that you should consider yours absolutely or so. when the person is coughed. the threat level goes down all the way you know to their comfort how can they really hurt you you know. and. certainly there are certain circumstances when a cough person can still be combat oh absolutely yeah yeah but you getting injured is way down. what you mean by that. well you know if you're you could. try to kick your something. but you can move out of the way
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the person is handcuffed you know and they. the threat level is just not there so my handcuffing somebody you've taken away some of their ability to are absolutely. and if somebody who is handcuffed becomes less combative. does that change the amount of force that an officer is to use and house. how so. if they become less combative. you you may just have them sit down under a curb or. the idea is to calm the person down. and if they are not a threat to you at that point you try to. you know to. help them. so that they're not as upset as.
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they may have been in the beginning. in your. 30 years training minneapolis police department your experience have you been trained on. the prone position you have and what has your training ban. specific to the prone position. well once. once you secure a person. you need to get them out of the prone position as soon as possible because it restricts their breathing. when you handcuff somebody behind their back well as part of training have you been handcuffed behind the back yards and have you been trained on what happens individuals when they're handcuffed behind the
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back yes so when somebody is handcuffed behind their back how does it affect them physically. stretches the muscles back to your chest. it makes it more difficult to break. if you put somebody in the prone position well is that well known this danger of putting somebody in the prone position. how long have you had training on the dangers of the prone position as many have a police officer. for since 985 and is it part of your training regularly regularly to learn about. keeping someone in the prone position yes and what has the training ban with regard to the prone. once a person is coughed. you need to turn them on their side or have them set up. you need to get them off their chest while. because of. its much earlier your muscles
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are pulling back when your head cut off and if you're laying on your chest that's constricting your breathing even more. in your training as a minneapolis police officer are you provided with training and medical intervention yes i assume you're not you know taught to be paramedics but you received some level of training. were 1st responders at the category we're. doing what we think of a c.p.r. just compressions yes how often has that part of your training. c.p.r. or. other your saw. and as part of your training within the minneapolis police department policies is there an obligation to provide
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medical intervention when necessary absolutely what is the general teaching that you get with regard to medical. well again that it's been that you need to provide medical care for the person that is in distress. and would that be true even if you've called an ambulance to come to the scene yeah absolutely you know the ambulance will. get there in whatever amount of time. in the time period you need to provide. medical assistance. before they arrive.
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or the learning break. there's a deal take care of 20 even if it were me break it to deal with the issue well you're right. mr fell through it. ok we are in right now. in the heaven county court in minneapolis day 5 of the direction of un's murder trial and we have heard from 2 witnesses so far brought by the prosecution both of them members of the minneapolis police force john edwards who was the duty sergeant. on duty that night the night that george floyd died in we've most recently been hearing from lieutenant richard zimmerman who did attend the scene at some point later in the evening. and a lot heard of his 30 years in the force and about how policies of the use of force are actually explained there is some very significant stuff which is coming
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out of lieutenant zimmerman's testimony. there he is giving it to me earlier and i think the most important thing we heard was the very line if your name is on a person's back it can kill them right he was asked whether very ever been trained to use an a on a mic and he said no never not while the suspect was restrained with had cuffs that would be considered top tier deadly force. a correspondent outside the courthouse in minneapolis it was very procedural this morning gabriel it was taking us through bit by bit minute by minute in the crime scene and then suddenly this admission i would say almost from lieutenant zimmerman if your name is on a person's back neck i'm sorry it can kill them. this is devastating testimony on multiple levels devastating for the defense and it
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really bolsters the prosecution's case this might be there's been a lot of powerful moments in this trial this week but this my rank near the very top not because of the emotion we saw emotion on monday tuesday and wednesday now this trial is switching to essentially this officers testifying against a fellow former officer on the force and this is so rare to see specifically what we're hearing now from this mr zimmerman is it's devastating because as you said he is one of the more senior officers in the entire police force a homicide detective for over a decade he's well known in the city of minneapolis as a matter of fact he's got a lot of credibility and he's very well respected and under questioning from the prosecution he basically said as you just stated this is not proper procedure for
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an officer to have their need on a suspects neck for this long in fact once the suspect is handcuffed they should no longer have the suspect face down well now we know of course from the new video that it was 9 minutes and 29 seconds to be exact that derek show haven't had his need on george floyd's neck so what this is is why it's so devastating this testimony is because it's not coming from a random eyewitness on the street it's coming from one of the more senior officers within the police department here in minnesota the minneapolis police force this is just going to be absolutely devastating testimony and it will be interesting to see how the defense cross-examines this witness can really well ok thank you for now come back to you later on daybreak correspondent reporting today on day 5 of the show the trial debbie hines with us also a trial lawyer form. baltimore city prosecutor joining us on skype from baltimore
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maryland thank you for your time and you've been listening along to all of that. i'll just say it again if your name is on a person's name it can killed him coming from a serving lieutenant someone who was on the scene at the time this is a very big moment. actually it is an excellent moment for the prosecution and they've been putting forth a very methodical child they had the emotional testimony and that is something that will appeal to people who you know who are emotional about what happens that there are so jurors a need to know what is the standard of care we know what the facts were what is the standard of care that the police officer was obligated to do and that is something that the other witnesses he had testified to so this lieutenant is everything for the prosecution up to this time because he is one of the oldest ours are as one of the 4 so there is respect right there and he just did not mince words he came out and he basically said straight out you cannot put your neat when someone's not for
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that remark because it restricts their breathing and you know this isn't interesting quite because what i have been reading one line from some potential naysayers and we don't know if there are any when the jury it is a question of well how like mr little way still big heart king saying i can break it if he was having difficulty breathing and this are the circus lieutenant basically addresses that because that's the very reason why you're tired and trained not to do that because the person is restricted in their care in their ability to breathe and that's why our children should have turned this deploying over immediately according to this lieutenant's testimony so this is really compelling as a correspondent said in terms of you know diffusing everything and showing that not only that but the officer had a duty to for the well being for the safety of mr not just to turn him over not
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just to follow what is the police officer as a standard of care when restraint and not use lethal legal force if you don't have a deadly force but he had a duty to get unsafe care and he didn't even try to give them any c.p.r. to get in trying to do anything for him and not just them. about the duty of care and what should be done on a humane level this is how the officers are trained the tenant zimmerman has been in the force for 30 years and he said this is training if you have rules for your job then this is one of them exactly and it's no way that the 10 then came say and he get you now because this lieutenant said this is so important that they have training when reasonable use of a wife every year and that even someone who is as senior as this witness was has been on the boys for 30 years he still is required to take a yearly course when reasonable where does that show how him or the use of force
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and the use of not of the use of not using deadly force how important that is within the police standard protocol so it's clear in that show they knew about the fact that he shouldn't be doing that it's clear that he was today in training what as every officer in the minneapolis police voyage is and it shows that he violated he violated the police standard and that goes for the prosecution being able to show and being able to prove that this officer this is the tendon that he used deadly force and that is what killed joints more waving their behinds in baltimore thank you so much we'll hear from you more later on as the trial carries on just some other news we want to bring you before we hit the top of the and that is that all parties involved in the 2015 iran nuclear deal will attend a meeting next week in the austrian capital vienna the meeting is being hosted by the european union this would be the 1st time the u.s.
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attend such talks since donald trump withdrew from the landmark agreement and 2018 officials from both the u.s. and iran made it clear there will be no direct talks between the delegations. we'll hear from outside bega correspondent in tehran in a moment but 1st alan fischer what the reaction from washington d.c. alan. well you can hear the helicopters arriving to take joe biden off for the easter weekend holiday here in the united states he has been speaking in the last 20 minutes but didn't make any comment about the latest developments on iran you remember that when he was running for president he said that he was going to enter back into the iran nuclear deal and we know that there have been talks over the last couple of months between the u.s. and the iranians but there could never be sequencing agreed to get the iranians to pare back on richmond of the your rhenium and there was no agreement for the u.s. to lift the sanctions that were put in place when donald trump drew the u.s. out of the iran nuclear deal but like me 2018 so where are we now well there's been
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talks between intermediaries a say and they never quite got close to having talks but now it's been agreed that in vienna next week there will be talks at official level no someone close to one of the senior diplomat at the u.n. said that the situation is very fluid at the state department in a statement just in the last couple of hours themselves or said this is very adly days and they're not expecting any eminent break through but we do know that this is regarded as quite a significant step it is the starting point perhaps for a new iran nuclear deal we know that the iranians see they're not going to discuss anything else but the u.s. and their allies including the europeans are suggesting the other things may well be included this time and there could be great to be incentives for the iranians to sign up the initial you would like to see the $30000000000.00 in oil sales that is currently being held elsewhere in the world to be released not something the u.s.
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is ready to do but it's a 1st step this is important and it's significant and it's a breakthrough for the by the administration after 2 months of trying and you have an official in washington and now as we said outside bank in teheran. well the news has been met with quiet quiet confidence from the iranians foreign minister divides reached tweeted out that the meeting did take place that it's discussing remedial measures something the iranians have been talking about synchronizing steps back. to that nuclear deal so the united states can lift sanctions and iran would begin to scale back some of its remedial measures but what he did say that there will be no direct talks between the united states and iran he said that's unnecessary now that's been the position of iran from the outset even 2 weeks ago when the supreme leader ayatollah khamenei spoke he said that the u.s.
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promises were worthless that they wanted to see actions and those actions are that those sanctions must be lifted and then iran must be able to very fired those that's very important to the iranians and the frustration from the iranians is that the europeans and the united states don't seem to understand that iran is a aggrieved party here they are the country under sanctions and before anything happens those sanctions must be lifted from the iranian perspective. ron with that update thank you us we are coming up to the top of the hour again on al-jazeera in recess at the moment in the courtroom in minneapolis we've been hearing from those 2 members of the minneapolis police force prosecution witnesses brought on this 5th day of showdowns trial and that will be resuming i would suspect in about 10 or 15 minutes and we'll of course return. to minneapolis when that happens and bring you the rest of the day's news of course all here on al-jazeera.
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it's time for the perfect. sponsored point qatar airways how i once again we're still got some wintry weather to get out of the way for parts of the middle east northern parts of the middle east of course you can see a little bit of cloud just spilling out to turkey easing across northern syria northern parts of iraq just pushing across towards the caspian iran will see that a bit of which weather over the mounts his ba south of that it is generally dry not exactly fine there's a brisk wind blowing through the gulf i think even here because of as we go through saturday some lifted dust and sand to watch out for temperatures and at around 35 celsius it cools off a touch as we go through sunday that brisk wind still there temperatures at around $29.00 degrees that wintry mix will make its way across that many stop pushing across into northern parts of afghanistan but brighter skies coming back in behind
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and temperatures started to pick up at long last so too bad not too bad too across the whole of africa generally dry and fine here that maybe one or 2 showers into the southern parts of ethiopia the charity into uganda kenya could catch a shower too towards the west and maybe it's was east as well tanzania also seeing some of those showers joining up as showers the rural out across the heart of africa right across into the gulf of guinea south africa's generally settled and sunny well there are a few showers just hugging the eastern cape. sponsored paul qatar airways. welcome today from every one of us. even those working quietly behind the scenes. so you can relax enjoy the breaking news.
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