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who had to flee and who made a very difficult choice because it was a life or death situation and what they need is welcome they need community both say they're adapting to life in the united states they look forward to family reunions and continuing their studies i can start my life all over the. safety and a fresh start in a new country. castro al-jazeera maryland. watching all of 0 with me so rob a reminder of our top stories flash floods and landslides are killed at least 90 people in indonesia and neighboring east timor traditional rain has destroyed roads and washed away homes and bridges rescue workers are struggling to reach remote areas india has reported daily highs in coded 19 infections with more than 100000
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reported in the past 24 hours some states have imposed new restrictions to stop the spread of jordan's prince homs or has said that in a newly released voice recording he would not obey orders by the army to stop communicating with the outside world after he was put under house arrest jordan's government says it's watered a malicious plot to destabilize the country for its homes or says he's being punished for speaking out against corruption. the situation is a little bit difficult all the guards have left and the chief of staff to threaten me on behalf of top agencies officials were recorded his words and send them to my family and those i know outside the country just in case something happened and now waiting for their action i'm not going to escalate but i will not abide myself by their orders to stay at home not to use to eat or not to be in contact with people and not to see my family but i've been told by the chief of staff is not acceptable under any circumstances so i'm still waiting for this matter to be sorted out
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malaysia's former prime minister najib razak is in court to appeal last year's conviction on charges of stealing hundreds of millions of dollars but he was sentenced to 12 years in jail and finally $50000000.00 in july after results of bulgaria's election point to a victory for the prime minister's center right party boy koba his office seeking a 4th term but with a drop in support or without a clear majority he's likely to struggle to form a coalition force office calling on his opponents to join forces for the sake of stability a small ferries collided with another boat in bangladesh killing at least 19 people up to 50 passengers were on board a police inspector says the ferry was rushing to leave after the government confirmed a new crowed of virus locked on for those stories on our website at al-jazeera dot com more news in half an hour next on al-jazeera it's up front to stay with us. on counting the cost of the billionaires the bank has finally had enough of brazil's
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president green bombs how the world plans to reduce carbon emissions and turn vast tracts of land back to nature plus europe's rush for battery technology. counting the cost on al-jazeera. as ethiopia's to great people's liberation front been crushed by prime minister every ahmed's crackdown in the region i'll ask a senior member of the group. marc lamont hill also on the show yet another spate of mass shootings in the united states and along with it another debate about gun control but is this time different will president joe biden be the one to finally implement reform we'll speak with the mass shooting survivor turned activist but 1st horrifying accounts
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of human rights abuses continue to emerge from ethiopia's northern region where the government is at war with the to grab people's liberation from the t.p. l.f. is there any end in sight and what is the t p a left objective this week's headlines or from to gray spokes person who read it. since last november more than 2000000 people have been displaced by the conflict between ethiopia's government and the to great people's liberation front the t. p.l.f. thousands have been killed and credible reports have emerged of massacres and widespread sexual violence the united nations has called for an immediate into attacks on civilians but with rights groups still unable to gain full access to the degree region remains unclear just how bad things are we invited the ethiopian government to come on our program to discuss the situation but they refused our request saying they did not want to share a platform with the t.p. l.f.
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a group they view as quote a criminal enterprise we're joined now by potential retta a spokesperson and executive committee member of the left. thank you so much for joining me. my printer you're joining us on upfront from an undisclosed location via telephone from the to great region why. we're in a war zone like you said. since last november before the 2 of them are. in the government and the start of this inquiry. more practical to me the exact reason is not out of the knowledge he. of course make the attack i'm going to look at the most exact. now with i know what is on the record because the figure and the people i have been having. a success for instance are going to.
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use coordinated attack by. the what you have to for kerry and needs in the crime processing crime and it's. obvious that if you do how to do for us to disclose whether what i have of course. active medicine i am which is let's take it out of me. like i said it out of the reagan net effect because that would be schooled in check making the genocide and company by by how do you have that support and. for months prime minister the admin has denied the presence of a reacher in troops in the seagrave region despite reports from the united nations of human rights abuses by eritrea in the region last week he finally admitted that ethiopian national forces and every tree and soldiers had been fighting side by side he also announced on twitter that they returned government agreed to withdraw its forces and that the ethiopian national defense force would take over guarding
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the border hold immediately have to retrain forces left to help they haven't left the fact that it's not encroaching on the part of the editor had written to record forces despite the protestations. that. the time forces have not been involved in the fighting have to come forward and that means that it was in fact the true that in return for this matter i think a long time it is going to seem to now when the international community the school for on the issue of the afghan government had to come forward and say government and that. none of us hadn't heard anything government was that it was an indication of the part of the afghan government forces the fact. announcement of. the streets about. who was really focused and clear has been pretty. increasingly complex of its forces seem to cry by leaps and
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bounds but because it's happened earlier concern than you thought looking out for just from the point of view looking at the violence i think of it because he has already lost current of thousands of people some 40 most of them out of the year that have come for the summer the fact come come come have come use you can simplify a compliment apparently. had could really have been going to be. what you had to call them the predicate provide. so how he got stoned because i don't know i want to ask you a question about a time it that you made in december of last year during an interview with the great t.v. you called upon the people in the region to quote rise and deployed to battle in tens of thousands given that to grab opposition reports the 10s of thousands of
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people are now dead and there have been numerous documented human rights abuses do you regret the statement should you have worked harder to create diplomatic possibilities in the international community to get international support rather than rising up in the way that they did. at the knives last year that. i do you support the. present time this has ordered because. it was specifically meant to neutralize the credit because of. the. doubt and i. was for whatever we might have done not i'm not a member but we could have come along because this is that we could have both what our station to. have a principle that one obvious not to talk. because it is going to happen that's
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because the shock is a bit of a process is it in. my country i'm going to be counted as a reformer by the way what's going to. it's interesting you should not be could have stopped short of of course. the people so do i have a great quarter you want to. know i don't because. it's a bit stunning i mean so there was a senior humanitarian official into gray who said that this could end up like a situation similar to yugoslavia where we'll be digging up mass graves for more than a decade when i look at that amount of home of violence when i look at that amount of death it prompts the question. was there room despite the circumstance you've just laid out was there room for some alternative not maybe not all to merely no
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beilenson but certainly at least in the short term some diplomatic possibility some international coalition that could have led to an outcome that was different is there anything you could have done differently what. it would require. to come to democracy trip where we would have been. i don't study in the kind of region they. crush the community and would have done could have done. better. is there currently any line of communication between the to payless and big government no no not not. done. what is the endgame here does the to p.l.f. want to go even to become its own state is that the goal here. you know i can address this question only by giving you. my take on what it means to be in europe
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you know written because i have read a lot of this context proponents of some killed it. i have no clue whatsoever how they did not you know i don't think you're going to be solved if you're trying to go right now. finding itself in his people are going to be even though if you know you have done the title of in just now it could be absolutely impossible for it's own or part of a proponent or he feels in pain like myself to come out in public and argue for equipment for people and i'm not saying ethiopia could go down as great but i have no capacity whatever to avoid. good luck and that kind of decision. by the people of the class so i think about reading they had this point that it
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should be next for the people to try to be said melissa if. she should have been i don't think i would strongly strongly suggest that different scrawny that this function that is displaying that if you did it a priority for me to become a public and crowded and taken some things about it depends if we're likely to have seen the last 5 months mexico abundantly clear that this is nick and that is next. for her any order to get out he says if i'm understanding you correctly you're saying that you're not ruling it out you not ruling out the possibility of an independent state. i'm not going to give up in fact the situation strongly said just that that would probably. slap in the possibility of a state a realistic one though because nothing has been worked out your way in life between
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sudan and eritrea if you'll be i was i was curious and i was saying you know calling someone today but you're not ruling out the possibility i guess i'm not ruling out finally. it's not just about having being one doctor or whatever it was about that criticism when the people of the last 5 to become an independent state there is nothing whatsoever that would stand in the way that's not a stretch that acceptable my my you could like not i i i was one of the proponents of. that on the open stage but even myself as a staunch proponent of the different you have difficulty coming out in public in support of just because i don't believe it is the option at this point in time what i'm saying is i'm not the person you're running out of. hiding from taxes but it's more ideas it's more common to them and it has you read it thank you so much for
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joining me on a friday. matters. to mass shootings in the space of just one week have reignited the debate about gun control in the united states on march 16th 8 people were killed in a shooting spree in atlanta georgia just days later 10 people were killed in another shooting at a grocery store in boulder colorado president joe biden was quick to call for a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines urging members of congress to take action but since the shootings his focus has already shifted to other areas of policy so after years of inaction on meaningful reforms to prevent mass shootings in the united states is it just going to be more of the same to help us answer this we're joined by kamran caskey a gun rights activist and a survivor of the 2800 school shooting in parklane florida which killed 17 of his fellow students and teachers cameron thank you so much for joining me and strap me . another one of these moments that we've seen far too often in the united states
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we have a spate of mass shootings that have caused people to say we need to do something about gun legislation a day after the shooting in boulder president biden said and i quote he didn't need to wait another minute to address gun control and yet since then he's shifted back to talking about infrastructure as the priority issue what do you make of this shift are you worried that serious action will never happen on gun control. it's bizarre i'm starting to see something with the added ministration that i saw and i and everybody saw a lot of with the trump administration which is the people in power are taking this bizarre stance where they're acting as though they're not completely in power doll trump when he was the president would constantly tweed a washington politics are so corrupt everybody out there in washington they aren't looking they are looking out for you when he was the president of the united states
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and he had a lot of control with the senate so right now the biden administration is using people like joe mansion and and cures and cinema as this kind of safety net where if there's a policy that they are not particularly interested in trying to are the past they get to say oh you know what it's not going to get the votes in the senate and there's only so much we can do as if the democrats don't literally have every branch right now so the question becomes if they're not going to show up for immensely popular things like background checks and red flag laws which you know 70 more than 70 percent of cargo holding n.r.a. members support red flag laws what are biden harris going to show up or wasn't a $50.00 minimum wage or wasn't cancelling student loan debt you know we've seen a lot of great things in the american rescue plan was in many ways a success but. you know if you're not going to deliver on guns i spent the absent
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there when the let me ask you are you are you surprised by this i mean we've seen presidency of the presidency show the same kind of lack of political will on the question of gun legislation and so because he too much of a surprise here no i mean look at the end of the day. specifically background checks and red flag laws those laws are so unbeliever. popular that it's shocking to me that those long passed but in terms of the ban on assault rifles and other you know what i consider commonsense pieces of gun reform i'm not surprised at all and it's been a common thread with the biden hairs administration that we're not seeing exactly what we wanted out of them but i spent 3 years telling everybody guys we need to get the democrats and power because once the democrats are in power we're going to be able to fix these kinds of issues and you know here a lot of people are in the gun violence prevention community we're sitting here saying ok this is the moment are we not going to get it yeah i mean why didn't
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didn't just gesture toward this he gave some concrete promises some day one cop promises including sending a bill to congress to repeal liability protection for gun manufactures and of course closing loopholes in the federal background check system now there are people who say look biden is playing the long game here he has a navigate a congress that is has a razor thin majority for democrats and many of those democrats who you reference are themselves right leaning and that there really isn't much else they can do you take that you understand that sensibility or you are like a promise is a promise a day one promise has to be kept. well i get it politics are real but again the question is at what point are we going to get something meaningful from them because if you've got the governing power you have to govern that's just how it works and how silly are we going to look in 2022 when we're asking america to vote for democrats again and america says ok well the democrats campaigned very
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distinctly on these issues and wouldn't even deliver the most baseline simple results on them rape i mean if we put in 4 years of what we've been seeing in the 1st less than $100.00 days at the bottom ministration which the 1st 100 days are normally when you see so many of the results what am i supposed as all people what is anybody supposed to tell anybody we're trying to get them to vote for democrats in 2022 you know that we're asking to lose seats if we're not going to deliver the things that we said we did some would argue that the result of these mass shootings are evidence that we won't get anywhere think about the sandy hook school shooting for example in 2012 you have 20 people 20 young people ages 6 and 7. they die and we don't see any shift in gun legislation no progress in the estimation of many that moment for so many observers was the moment where they'd
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realize or believe came to believe that nothing was ever going to change that a vet many children killed did nothing then there's no shooting no tragedy no other moment that could sway lawmakers any more than that one what do you make of that idea. well sandy hook was a huge sign it was a sign that you're right this is not going to happen because of one of these shootings white little kids are the only thing republicans like to talk about with any legislation they like to tell you in their culture war battles that liberals are coming to do this to your kids and obviously they don't care when children of color are murdered so in that many white children were murdered and we still didn't see any any meaningful legislation passed that was a sign no matter what levels of cruelty we will see. it's not just going to happen like that and that's why so many people in the gun violence prevention immunity were thrilled to see the joe biden won the election because we said ok
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we've got biden and harris biden and harris who campaigned on these changes these are changes that we made up out of nowhere you know things like red flag laws universal background checks that's the most basic technocratic thing that i could have written out and told you about it were great and we're going to get these you know why are we going to the ballots in 2022 why am i supposed to go i will not campaign for the democrats because that's just my life but what are we supposed to say to people who see this kind of violence with no meaningful action one of the things that the n.r.a. does and other gun can gun advocates do is they appeal to the 2nd amendment they create a kind of romantic narrative the 2nd amendment how it's tied to liberty and freedom etc that the right to bear arms or right to own weapons is tied to our sense of citizenship and identity as americans when i watch people on your side of the fence
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defend your position you often still appeal to the 2nd amendment rather than say the 2nd amendment is something we should get rid of that i often hear you say look we're not trying to take your guns we're just trying to control reasonably what people have access to and how people navigate so we can be more safe my question for you is why why stop there what wide wide conceived the ground the 2nd amendment is a reasonable place to start given the context in which was produced why begin from a place of saying that every american adult has a right to have a weapon why begin there why not begin to question the premise itself that the 2nd amendment may not be a reasonable. presentational provision in the 21st century. sure well i need to very quickly make it clear that my personal views on this are not reflective of the entire gun safety community it's my understanding that the entire gun safety community is very rooted in a holding the 2nd amendment but of holding the 2nd amendment in it's appropriate
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use. and by that i mean allowing people to hold their right to bear arms but arguing that this is not a well trained militia that we're seeing right well regulated militia we don't have a well regulated militia here we don't even know how to put on masks and we've got a wal-mart my personal opinion is that our country is obsession with the constitution is very weird it's a very very old document there's some good stuff in it there's some very silly stuff in it but it was written by a literal slave owners and look i don't want to trigger people because people get really upset when young people are talking smack on the constitution people have this really weird obsession with it when they won't even follow the constitution when it isn't appropriate for them you know but you know i think that there's 2 ways to look at it yes banning these assault weapons can be adjacent to the 2nd amendment simply because the 2nd amendment was not written with the understanding
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that weapons of this power would exist and we were doing that i mean as a simple question if you were in charge of policy for the united states. would you still allow for the 2nd amendment to exist would you allow for all americans have our rights of any arms well i would say all americans i think that americans should have the rights to defend themselves and their home specifically with weapons i think that the working class should have the right to be armed with weapons that belong in the hands of civilians and are not directly designed for killing i think that what we're going to learn is that weapons are going to mean guns. yeah i mean look we have handguns in my house my father has a gun safely stored in a locked safe i couldn't tell you where the key is in case he needs to defend our home i don't know how to access a gun that we have but people should have the right to own a handgun in my opinion specifically people in communities of color that are the
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targets racial violence i feel as though suggesting that people should disarm themselves when they are directly threatened by police officers would be very shortsighted of me i'm not directly afraid of police officers the way that people of color would be because i feel is the police force in this country is designed to work in protect and so i've got a militia and i got to push a little bit on that camera i got to push a little bit on that because some people would say myself included quite frankly but but that's leading into the well regulated militia argument that it's like this romantic idea of it somehow hangers are going to protect the vulnerable in this country from from state violence in other words black people as a country can't defend itself and the police with guns right. will be that's where it gets really complicated because on the one hand you know a there are people there are conservatives who will say you can't judge you know no right over that 2nd and rights of people in black communities look let's look
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what's happening you know and say ok conservatives you have absolutely no right to be spot speaking about this but it's an interesting it's an interesting thing to bring up i think that if. a black person is stopped by a police officer and they are legally carrying at handgun that can be an excuse that the police officer sees is to do whatever horrible things that they want because a police officer will say that a black person having a pack of skittles is a weapon so you've got this really difficult situation obviously specifically for communities of color on the one hand self defense is important on the other hand if you have if you have kept a sticky notes in your pocket the cops will shoot you dead and say that i thought i was a gun and i don't have an easy answer to that i will say that i think that the right to own a gun should be protected and that should be protected but all of this all of this can just be put aside to look at the issue of assault rifles where nobody really
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needs these weapons camera casket thank you so much for joining me on outfront thanks so much for. that is our show for the week but up front will be back next. planet earth a wondrous diverse ecosystem but human activity is the escalating climate change and posing an accidental threat in the lead up to us to algeciras on special coverage documentaries discussions and reports exploring the consequences of all actions and inactions and showcasing ways in which some are seeking to turn the tide a season of programming exploring the time it costs ahead of the earth day on al-jazeera . xenophobia violent and beating the
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