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those ones because it's really dangerous to be that this time we've heard of stories of famines pretty much been stripped bare of of leaves and all of. the things that you would normally see on a farm the structures of all be destroyed a very close to the volcano and i'll go this information is limited and it's not going to be a pretty picture when we when we get a few full view of things. here without is there are these are all top stories iran's foreign minister says nasdaq on the country's main nuclear facility will strengthen its position in upcoming talks to revive the nuclear deal had zarif has been missing his russian counterpart iran is dealing with what it's calling an act of sabotage at the nuclear plant at natanz. we talk in vienna to restore the rights of our people and in think sions but these talks have
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you. subscribe to the conversation. ok today on the street we focus on haiti a country that is yet to see a single covered 19 vaccine some haitians are even struggling to be able to afford . basic safety precautions. ok let's talk that would accept the state government is supposed to give us masks to wear for the coronavirus but they don't give us the masks and we don't know where to go and buy them they sell them at too high a price for us to be able to afford it we're poor we can't afford them therefore we don't wear mascara maybe even the women. meanwhile presence often elmo yeas of haiti is facing some political opposition the economy is struggling and also
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there's an uptick in gang violence a so much to talk about in haiti right now please help me do that jump into the comment section and be part of today. joining our conversation mr joseph jacqueline gult of pop and jessica nice to see you guessed you for being with us today mr joseph introduce yourself to everybody who you are what you do. to. the minister of foreign affairs and or ship and it's jacqueline as for enough friend of the stream she's been on the screen many times welcome back jack and i remind our audience who you are what you do thanks for having me on jacqueline charles some of the caribbean correspondents at the miami herald but the problem will come to the stream introduce yourself to a global audience let it be bob director or gives you said jersey border pretty
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well most of course as an officer but a city of the world cornell medical college of new york and jessica good to see you tell asked him what he and what you do. yeah hi my names just go over and journalists and comic are based here in haiti welcome everybody thought about this to start with some very basics how is haiti doing regarding the coverage 19 pandemic how many people are sick how many people have passed away how are you handling it. well i must tell you that in the world who had a doubt the catastrophe exceeds ration that would have occurred and he did occur. we have in total 2 would have been $52.00 deaths we have about $30.00 and people would be detected but i suspect that this number is virtually 0 or i would reach you played by 20 because we didn't test every single person we only tested people who are symptomatic and who came to our sitters but we are not seeing
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a single wave at this time and we are looking into right this is happening each fascinating that we are not seeing much coffee to get now we had carnival we had we opened schools we had to open airports and nothing happened so i presume the basis of that that we have that we reach the god of color t.v. immunity in the british does about this is so strange as you said i'm just looking here at covert figures for haiti and of course any countries figures are not going to be absolutely accurate as you're not going to be out to test every single person and also there's not a lot of testing going on in haiti anyway but look here a number of cases 12000 dest 2510 that's extraordinary neighboring next door to dominican republic they've had 258000 cases
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a more than 3000 people have done this is something jess that you have looked into what siri do you have. so i had written an article for of the new humanitarian about vaccine has a tendency to the reality is that the death toll in confirmed cases are quite unreliable less than 60 about some tests administered in haiti rather than the $1300000.00 and american republic with roughly the same population size also most tasks are quite an affordable to the general public they cost about $900.00 just not possible for most patients and most people actually doctors like spoken to both in port au prince and in the provinces have mentioned that most people don't go to . their hospitals when they have a fever or a flu there was all bought at stake mad the beginning with the pet pandemic so instead it's kind of been denuded as a as
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a different fever not coronavirus so the people dying at home they are going undiagnosed it's not being counted as cope it. it just. got here yes docs ahead of work i've been working in haiti for 40 years i've seen all that. form should be. acceptable i can tell you would that we have a group do the workers working in the slums live there if we had a lot of covert debts we would up though. this is the reality or. underlying condition i know. let me just say let me just say that it's not all of this 80. 1 or and let me just go there to jacqueline and then i'm going to go to the minister and you know i'm just going to build on i'm just going to build up dr props point because i did
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a story about this and i was in haiti during cholera and i remember the bodies being thrown into streets left industry you saw people running with bodies sick people on the near death on the on planks and that is i mean if that we have not had that in haiti yes you can you can question a numbers you can question the figures but the reality is also is that we have not seen any anecdotal evidence of large numbers of unexplained death that we saw in ecuador that we've been seeing in brazil the question fundamentally is why is this we know we're dealing with a country where over 50 percent of the population is young so you don't have that you know older population you do have some culpability people do treat it as if it's just a fever but they're also treating it you know with different herbs and different in different teas there is a question to be asked part let's be real part of country a schools down it doesn't have the amount of tourism that we've seen next door in dominican republic and we see how this is how this virus moves so there is
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a legitimate question there but i agree with dr pappas that when we look at the history of haiti and the diseases in the past there has been no you know evidence to have you believe there we have a situation in haiti where you've had like in ecuador or brazil or other countries where you've seen his explosion and people are dying in large numbers unaccounted for so many say almost feels like. has dodged a bullet for the moment is that to do with how the government is monitoring it in terms of the cove 819 for samak. thank you listen to this i concur with the bob and jacqueline had we actually have many a cause of death in haiti everyone would know it's days no such thing we we need also to mention that the government has been the block too since the beginning with
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close schools universities port and airports so we need to also take into account dools upon it is i do believe that the government has been a fit of efficient and managing a $1008.00 c. so it's clear that we. countries according to that actually base the money does the cause weeknights and of course we need also to understand what a fuck does that help us compared to our neighbor the making of a public why we fare so why we did so good and. i disagree with you i think that the government's handling of call of it has been rather rather chaotic i mean i think that haiti has managed to dodge a bullet but let me just say one of the worrying thing stan it's happened is that when you look at today for instance the state department you know put haiti under
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a travel forewarning and they specifically also mentioned the cole that because it's on the c.d.c. so they are not they are saying to us they don't believe the numbers the bahamas also effective today has another ban on travel to and from haiti it's the 3rd time that they're issuing this just this ban i mean i think that that you know that there's definitely an answer for the scientists and individuals like that there have to realize but i think that yes in the beginning we saw some proactive decisions on the part of haiti being the 1st to say to people if you're coming in you're going to have to solve isolate but then that didn't happen we saw the rooms that were set aside for isolation they were going to people who were being deported from the united states 0 that's a whole other issue to hole up. and you see some of the images that are coming out and people may not be able or mass of people don't believe in mass and they don't want to be so i think that we have been lucky but i think that when we look at what's happening a new guinean we look at what's happening in venezuela we the realization of these variants that the government can be more proactive and that it is critical that you
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know people understand that while yes when i see the number of deaths in haiti there's a virus is real and that they should not just dismissed it as just a little fever so i guess let me move on. if we want to do because this is almost a medical mystery that we're not going to solve within the lens of this program but i do want to push on just a little bit because where haiti is right now and it's been shocking some of our audience who are watching and he doesn't have a single covert 19 vaccine the director of health ministry explained some of the challenges that haiti is anticipating when it even comes to getting the vaccine in country and have a listen. the only need let me know in those direct if we have 3000000 doses of vaccine 1st do we have a safe place to store them seconds do we have the capacity to use all those doses before they expire because when you receive the vaccines and then start using them
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they could end up expiring we have to know all these details before we can start receiving vaccines and saying to people that those vaccines are available it's a that's a pot this is something the every country is having to think about whether they are a developing country or developed country so how is he ready that vaccines ok let me explain this is a complex issue because we have a vaccine said against you we've used vaccine against hiv they gets it in risky certainly we introduce oral could have that seen whenever you into a new population it is essential that you do since it is issued in information in the population and i can tell you people tell you that the government doesn't give them a i know that there are millions of boston that were provided do it really isn't
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really why people are not using mask because they could make them themselves it's really because they don't believe in the disease and didn't believe it because they don't see people dying and that's really the issue they believe in calling it was easier so i think the government position. essentially is linked to the fact that there are we don't have a lot of people over the age of 65 so this is why the government of vaccine mostly for older people it's only. 5550 percent of people over here just $65.00 but most importantly it's convincing people to get it so dear afraid to get vaccine and the vaccine sits there and expires so there needs to be a big. discussed this at a previous talk with their fire a disappointing day and it's to be a huge effort it has to saratoga diaspora that's what i did with the haitian middle callouses you should overseas and big issue because there is
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a connection with the das right he that's what i did we've call it god it's what i did we're when it would use each of you vaccine so we do have to do that 1st this is important and i think that the government is not against vaccine because they sign documents indicating that they want vaccines but they want to make sure that this is not wasted and i think that the 1st step is that massive education campaign it's not going to be easy i can guarantee you but thought so what month is it it's a pro of the. pandemic size over a year and so you're a situation where you know persuading high sense that however the $911.00 excess minister how are you going to do that. i mean i know the the public health ministry is very proactive and as dr just said. diligent it working to accept they refuse or at least they live locked in to choose
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the. vaccine in they have the right to actually listen to a phone since about 6 committee to get. those which of the vaccines may work better for haiti so i think this is a where we. i mean to his addition that exists among the population but the as dr pop said the government has already sided documents to accept the vaccine but which one i think days a discussion and this is something we should figure out pretty soon and start with it would developed and i again we need to have a campaign and case and this is exactly what miss i'm just wondering how how quickly is pretty soon it doesn't feel like there's an awful lot of urgency because wrong houses that don't really prove exists as a pandemic and to not that many people want dying. i mean the reality.
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just. the minister of public kills who said that is going to be very very soon very soon and we we we we express our concerns about our stars and they go and we see the waiting for them to actually see of you know to address those concerns right but right now there's only one vaccine that's available that is astra zeneca me in the united states you have j. and j. it is a one shot vaccine it has not been approved by w.h.o. and the reality is because haiti is part of the kovacs 36 countries in the americas region are going to receive vaccines through this 10 of them including haiti are going to get it for free but haiti is only going to be able to get 20 percent of its population in terms of vaccines and that's a real reality that once you get the enough for your 2000000 individuals you will not be able to have any more you know any more vaccines so today there's one
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vaccine astra zeneca and while you know we haven't moved to a global passport increasingly as a journalist i am seeing countries that are starting to act for people to be to be vaccinated and everyone agrees at least the science agrees that we need to return immunity and we can't return immunity if one country is lacking it's understandable haiti's concerns but you know all of the scientists are saying it out of europe to say yes you know there are some concerns but the benefits outweigh the risk right now and by the time he actually led gabby know that they were prepared for this vaccine 9 countries in this region had already received their shipment of astra zeneca vaccine for cold so check i mean just remind our audience when calving chance that the vaccine alliance an alliance yeah we spoke we spoke to them when we taught them about this he shall have a camera laptop the covert code that tracks the requests for invites countries to identify their preferred vaccine cut to a 6 that they re sent this to us and direct. response to what is happening in haiti
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is going to skip towards the end here because that seeks to optimally meet the full range of country profits is subject to supply availability among other factors may be a maybe the j.n.j. vaccine will be available but maybe it won't be. a comet i would love for you to listen to minister and this comment comes from a citizen of hope and he is concerned that the vaccine is not the biggest issue in haiti right now many other is way more important have a listen have a look 1st and foremost those deep mistrust in delicious and she between the haitian population in the government which is known for. city to be busy social services to this it isn't easy actually few people in here because of all be made in haiti does not have to call them or will be made by
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a senior aide now what the problem of insecurity and bad governance so haitian people should be able to buy your own elite into official we followed their feelings of the international community. mr carr had yes yes listen he'd see has historically member or structural problems including a constitution that has not including a constitution that has undermined democratic barbarous desir we have an opportunity to address finally the structural problems well right in the country with solid platform on which to build a stable democracy with functional parliament and strong institution listen. 2021 is a coup sure year for the country haiti success is dictated on holding fwe in fair
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elections as. the professor just mentioned we need to hold elections so the people can elect their leaders and to finish with the cycles of instability and violence we need to change the constitution as 90 percent both inside and outside the country 90 percent of patients both inside and outside the country ask they want we just thing the constitution they want elections so and doesn't do any do we can have a peaceful transfer of power and then elected president will replace with those of then we used and have a climate of a nonviolent of stability to really lead the country to the better path so i'm just looking at the minister and there are a number of people who let's just say they lack confidence in the house and government of a lot compass in the house of government this is even before covert 19 now planned how if i have confidence and and what you are saying the government is trying to do
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right now when i ought in even though it looks like i may have a scant some of the last of the covered 90 pound demick to our life's at risk people's health is at risk in haiti. there's only one way to express your concern is through the but it is what you need to do if you do if you do not have faith in the government change it and it's in our democracy which choose election to actually change elected officials the government that's that's exactly what the president did current government is committed to organize fair and transparent elections a dno of the year so we can have a new government well actually do those people would not have 50 and discover and they can actually choose to have a leader like you out all right they can speak about the minister but the minister mentioned the structural issues i mean historically haiti has relied on n.g.o.s and
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outsiders to fund its health care it has one of the lowest spending you know on health care the question is whether or not a new constitution is going to address people's basic needs i mean i've seen this argument raised that the issue for haiti today in terms of you know disease and maladies it's not cold it but it's infant mortality you know women dying in childbirth things that are curable that we take for granted here in the developed in the developed world and that goes back to regardless of what your constitution says what is the political will of any government to address that into the basic rights i would like to add something. i think it's it's a bit irresponsible to say that he has passed code and i know we don't want a return on that subject and in the end i do so i gess we 3 do actually because as the whole point i thought god got us talking i don't believe anyone said there were pasco verify how do you trust the government if in fact there are multiple other issues jessica i would love for you to respond to this comment because we came to
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you to talk about the vaccine hesitancy and this is this is this is a very a well off haitian who who's thinking about toys isn't thinking about vaccines and how to listen to things come and then come off the back of it obesity. when we look at the movie in 1000 numbers for haiti about 12000 pieces and 250 death haiti remains a mystery we even had for early march and it did not result in 2 accelerated number of cases the average haitian today is concerned marching in the shoes taking over social media with the hash tag $380.00 not from who played scene but from insecurity and corruption at a personal level taking the vaccine is not on top of my primary however as a frequent traveler if it comes down to travel restriction i am open to take the
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vaccine but since i know that there are different types of vaccine out there i'll make sure i take one that doesn't create more issues than it solves yes that is a voice of privilege of have i heard one just very briefly where right at the end of the show what should haiti be thinking about doing right now in the global pandemic best practices best best idea going forward from from this point. great so. far going 1st off following coke carnival actually when i was speaking with a doctor at general hospital the general hospital in cap-haitien was actually on quarantine a couple weeks after carnival so we just don't know the status that it is to to 6 we just don't know how he's been affected by this because there are underlying conditions connected however to address this. it's very very difficult to get people to trust in the back scene when most people don't trust in
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public institutions and when people have big bigger stresses to to worry about like food. security. i think. when it's possible to hold the elections i think that's what's going to help bring into that some trust the 2nd thing is i agree that there needs to be more efforts to educate and fight against that information through thank you janet. at bit at the beginning of the ad the pair demographically like he did quite a good job at spreading awareness around radio jean paul's thank you jess thank you jack again thank you dr pop and thank you melissa thank you as well for a big part of this conversation so much to talk about haiti always a chicken a joining a global pandemic thank you all for being part of this conversation i was see you next time take.
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