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and it from the very beginning so those images are important however i also think these images that bring a bit more hope and maybe it's you know it's kind of showing the other side of it or maybe showing a way out of it of being with an image that comes to compassion hope solo darity it's really it shows a way out of this crisis it at least it's it's it might be a path and that's also what i want to tell with this image that yes we are and to mend as a crisis but there's also a way out of it and that is by. protecting one another protecting the people we love protecting other people and standing together. this is al jazeera and these are the headlines a group of pro-democracy activists in hong kong are being sentenced for taking part in anti-government protests in 21 team veteran campaigner martin really he helped
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launch the city's largest opposition party in the 1990 s. been given a 15 month prison sentence media tycoon jimmy lie has been sentenced to 12 months in prison. a group of 1st go parties for myanmar has formed a national unity government i would cite the country as part of the resistance to military will hundreds of protesters have been killed since the coup began at the start of february scott hyder has 4 from bangkok. essentially what it is it's a parallel government you know there's been a parallel structure made up of a lot of of the lawmakers who were ousted in this coup and those who live outside of myanmar that have been in action over the last several weeks if not maybe a month and a half so this is more kind of a formal step by them to form this national unity government and what it is is they are looking for recognition right at this stage they have created this parallel
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government themselves so they're looking for recognition by parties in their national in the international community officials have released body count footage of a chicago police officer officially shooting a 13 year old boy last month out until lead to appeared surveys his hands just before shots were fired incident suspense protests. there are multiple casualties after a shooting in the u.s. city of indianapolis it happened a fed ex facility in so far at least 8 people are confirmed to heads police say the gunman took his own life officers responded to reports of shots fired at the fed's accents are just staffed 11 pm local time. u.s. presidents has called for dialogue with the kremlin after signing off a new sanctions against russia called sanctions or it's a punishment for interfering in last year's u.s. election and orchestrated cyber attacks or scrutinize the accusations saying over
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spawns in all those other headlines the stream is next keep it here and i'll just. talk to al-jazeera. you tell me what the government you represent is now illegitimate and we listen we do not sell the fence material in any country the conflict in yemen we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter syria. hi anthony ok welcome to the stream on today's episode a new proposal your insults and the controversy surrounding it the anti separatists bill is aimed its potus is to stop radicalization but there are many muslims insults who feel that it targets them in the way they wish to practice death a state so on in life there are rallies their campaigns around
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a couple of different hashtags through instance put to shame or his job or hands off my head at hash tag fronts he jap you can join that discussion with us right now on you to jump into the comment section of the part of the day such. as a french muslim woman i am exhausted and angry crissy once again the policing of my beliefs my choices and my buddy. my country has made me choose between my hero and my education my career my engagement risk course and my joint is an ant's wanting to shop around my nieces and schools as a 1st citizen i am strict over my most basic human rights so we act together with other friends when we're raising awareness calling for saudi charities with the hash tag but to sharon to point an end to this implicit sexism
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and tired muslim hatred before it's too late there is a lot to talk about we will be doing that with mark milley and welcome to the stream mark introduce yourself to international audience. i reckon are one my name is mark. rasch mark. good to have you welcome back to the studio with a lot of audience who you are what you do. when we say yes we want even though he wants us to believe pretty selective used the you can just use a leader with useful on a host of the broadcast liberal get nice to having a bad 1000000 welcome to the stream introduce yourself to. miriam and her irish and a retired associate at center for islamic studies so i guess i have to tell you and audience as well we invited the minister of gender equality facades to our
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conversation we also asked a number of members of the national to join us and everybody that we talked to said they thought they were on a very liberal but i want to take you back to last october when president mccaughan they've us at al-jazeera an exclusive interview that he specifically talked about the anti separatist spill here yes. it is a bill of law to combat the violent extremist groups and individuals who are active in france in the name of islam it is designed to protect all french people and more broadly and indeed specifically those of the muslim faith. so what do we intend to do prevent them from taking children out of school the children of the republic we also intend to put a stop to the financing linked to terrorists which enables them to pursue their activities so financial transparency and above all something which for me is essential in france ensuring that everyone irrespective of their faith or religion fully observes the legislation of the french republic that is essential when you
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heard about the bell case i just got to get an instant yes because i want to see where your minds are right now your reaction i had. i mean i think president michael moore has worked really hard to present a very different face to the international media then what he has domestically in france and hearing their you know talk of protecting children somehow you know stopping the funding of terrorism that has actually manifested that in the bill has been you know prohibiting essentially islamic schooling and children being. trained you know schools at home which is a fundamental right but also this idea of funding terrorism what we're actually seeing in the bill is the stopping of funding of netflix what we're talking about is international funding which has historically been one of the only means for mosques to get bill in france being stopped so you know this is a major issue we're talking about a country in which there's already
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a major. inequality in the levels of provisions when it comes to places of worship around 4500 mosques in france to cater to around 6000000 people comparatively speaking there are 45000 churches 40000 of those are actually funded by the state to cater for about 3200000 catholics just to give you a comparative lot of the head. well it becomes unbearable or to see the present law in such a comfortable manner he spoke of children being to get out of school so a deposit laws of to exclude lydia girls were discovered since 2004 where they are excluded and their community set up schools no other government cracks down on those schools and wasn't sick shut them down when families can't afford private school is another homeschooling they want to keep those kids from receiving home schooling no the problem is that it may be luck ringback or could not name one
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single most important is issued calling for separatism but i can tell you there with public is the one excluding the corners of those roads excluded the separatists and the less profit how can we fight a separate isn't what we want with the government does not fight a fight the systemic discrimination muslims group through are to walk even to access to health care. as we want to become a model for us i am just looking marco at how amnesty and international are viewing this anti separatist bell on my laptop fronts republican values norris discrimination which will be very brief but pick out some of the points of this bill that are giving as amnesty international human rights organization concern what are the problem athens. yes lena actually raises many concerns in terms of if you are right. clearly there are. actually very
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problematic nations including the uk that for example on again off any organizations we. ascribe to abi comes on trial we are with the continent which is better. and could actually lead to your instruction in i'm taking to task for stations a way to restrict access. very clearly we don't it's rational and. but he cautions that organizations. can actually you know it's private you know way that is not compliant and. is pretty is not an increase. at least i didn't actually it was something i didn't i didn't mean organizations that are you not. government on this earth when she's really programmatically in communication and. if the community is only
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one of many when we loot you know that context has been compiled in. an argument that. context what context shall i be able to be that there has been a lot of my faith nation and all of. this is fine but. without it i mean a shock when. one of things i wanted to do was just to care for a sense of the atmosphere in front so i told you about these vile campaigns well where people are incensed with some of these positions of. antisepsis bill still a bill right now but also in support i've seen on the change some support well some don't. is saying right now france is doing a good thing good idea good plan france this is sebastian chen you who i'm going to say is a right wing national assembly representative and as
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a fair description of him this is what he said about this proposed no. you are not it is rather a bunch of measures that seem to us to be going in the right direction when they seem to be going in the right direction we voted for these amendments overall the text is not up to the challenge we don't want to vote against it so as not to oppose it everything that can help to fight against radical islam in our country must be implemented however small it may be and here in this case it is tiny france is a tiny not to say ridiculous. yes if this is such a division of reaction with an it is anti separatists bill and i'm just wondering does the government have advisors who are actually practicing muslims because some of these positions filled very x. dream. that you would be shocked if the most radical version of the so-called shot of the mamas of was actually written by the grand mosque of paris so that shows
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that even a someones to organizations are in cahoots with the government and that's why it is on the up and that was the shortages of muslims to stand and take back control of their organizations now listening to this person called and said was a far way to activists and about addition he said out into this goes against radical islam when are these people going to define what a what it is because right now we have amendments i guess hey jeff pearlman is listed mothers list in schools i'm missing pieces of course it was in charities and even prohibiting thrilling flags in weddings if that's not a political and agnes what if war being waged against muslims specifically but illiterate it would be extended to the wider french society because of these measures to date yes there is yet to implement because you can shut down wants to organizations but tomorrow honesty can be should devotee of the government decides
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to because that would be there too subversive and too quick order of the republican this we are witnessing the don't know what they don't want us but would offer us towards a return to what it used to call a fascism then this point if i may is that emanuel mccall and he's a minister of education and a minister of interior all again dup but in order to have mccall reelected and of the next and elections the problem is that they can aim to unite of france against an enemy with then but they are actually targeting the very front de chanst of france one just $11.00 sentence article one of the french constitution the republic which picks religions whereas that constitution today it where is its occupation under the money when michael. i'd love for you to listen to some of. that we spoke to a little bit earlier and their reaction to this separatist spell of innocent havoc . just approaches him threatening recent people rice makes them feel more and more
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excluded and marginalized in the longer feelings french estates i respect you now as you can drive the fashion model who are the works in france the only doing this doing some great is a muslim woman from the public space between freedom and liberation for our believe it's clear that someone more free and another is. who and the more public among them and probably making woman from wanting to dread head and wish it were a defense of women's rights because it's part of our work. there and what reaction have you been saying. well look i think you raise this question of religiousness receive and i think that it's come up consistently when we've seen proposals from the government that there is clearly the kindest interpretation is a lack of religious literacy in the highest levels of the french government but you could also argue that actually historically the french government has consistently
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of what we did listening to and responding to the french muslim community and instead has always chosen to define an interlocutor that it could control and provide limits to what that particular association should do so for example the c.f.c. m. which is a government created body muslim body i should perk which is essentially held up as somehow being representative of the wider muslim community but has very little actual support from the wider community is just one indication of this sense that the government doesn't actually want to hear what french muslims have to say and doesn't actually in that sense have the you know in my in mind from my perspective there's a dereliction of duty from the government here you know these are french citizens and it is their right to practice their religion just like it is the right of every citizen within that country and from the minute the government ignores that portion
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of the citizenry and actually creates laws that specifically target them you know whatever it says publicly i think that's very clear to most people in fact it's probably quite clear to those who supported it's actually going against the very principles on which the republic is built and i think that's the saddest and most worrying part of this whole debacle is that muslims are on the front line when it comes to this particular bill but what we're talking about is the disintegration of the very principles on which the republic has been built town which historically am presently muslims have always supported the republic they don't have a problem with that it's just the government's instrumental ization of these. concept essentially to gain more votes away from the far right in regained that cereno many many american came to power as a center candidate he's now the very much flirting with the right. so mary i think and i want to put some of these questions to me that are coming from you tube
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audience because they want to react and interact with you so i'm going to put this one to you mark a brief response if i can get one from emmanuelle says the government has no religion but it must control over the tins for the benefit of all citizens all religions must respect the laws and also respect as over legions market reacts. yes perfectly for not up to this they did not in france and not in iran not things we're going to tell actually we've managed that we're going to want to dress how to dress what we're watching not where i was very very important principle or the 2nd one is that we need to remember what actually meant life and then in 05 when actually the law there was introduced in. this way it actually should they are away from the leaders in the should enable all everyone to practice religion. actually want and will try to get it that's what the trade lies it means which means that we
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see. a moment as i would say exactly the contrary we have seen exactly the contrary the last 20 years the french government the french authorities being part about your progress the very restricted early just practice we have always there is a discriminatory impact particularly on the most. as i see you nodding your head i want to take you to take on this comment here from storyboard writing thank you for being part of the show today is that most of the legislation presented in this bill more of a response to find nationalism than actual terrorism. what if of course it's not and start with terrorism otherwise they would have us the questions of why attacks are happening and whether to keep happening the 2nd question is are there reasons are we to remove to the or school the nationalism in france no of course others before a muslim said booted from a pricing and we will top an internet in the thirty's and forty's but what we see
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today is we also see the quibbling regime that we call the 5th republic burr born in 1958 people think france is a republic it is not it is only a compromise between a monarchy and a republic the 958 constitution was born out of a coup to top it all to have a president called charles de gaulle and because that is ideal for retiring with very few checks and balances a weak parliament the judiciary is not really independent because the prosecutor is nominated by the executive branch of power on top of it we have skyrocketing inequalities a 100000 people have died in front of the 19000000 people how 4 don't look up the poverty line 300000 students are now can go for like food beds because they are starving in the missile dependently the only answer the government ties of like is protests this as sort of toward the why the population is and we cannot grow into a bright future but we can grow into a broader i guess are muslim neighbors i.e.
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the enemy within so right now the only thing government is an identity but it except if i may add one thing mark group well let's talk about this the 1905 law we have to keep in mind that it is again said it was back to the colonies why it 19 all 5 of their other separated church and state was never applied to god and he's an ip order to keep islam under control and this is exactly what's happened today the fronts of the law exists it is up red when it comes to catholics and other isn't but when it comes to muslims they can. not to believe peter for me it's like you are in a rigged game if you don't see them a liberty is that you are to go to like the digit we read the game show there was only games in it have you not be able to organize a surgeon the 1905 law is not at the head with guns to muslims and that's exactly what this government is doing let me just bring everyone up to date with what is beginning to happen in france and i'm going to share this tweet with you here too
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must have been fire bombs and vandalized in france in the past 24 hours i'm going to scoot up here this is just from the past few days which will give you an idea of why we were asking this seemingly provoke a question is from it's legalizing islamophobia marco what kind of impact have you seen in terms of the way the government is dealing and talking to ms and communities and then what is happening down on the ground in terms of their safety and in terms of their security. we have often had crimes perpetrated against muslims actually as in the context of for example after violent attacks after terrorist attacks you know we always i mean we have well we as a french and response from the french authorities often disproportionate response that often in bad actually as you were types against them indeed actually is usually
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associated with the hate crimes with the ta action against. the bot or stood against muslims on the street including my website that repeatedly in the context in the law actually. in the last 5 years. unfortunately what's happening is not is not you know we we see in fact in the context of the state of emergency is the fact. that government actually replying with a message and merges the measures we disproportionately measures and these actually create read if that is us but i had 24 miles in communities in the brom. i want to talk about what will happen next because this is a bill it's not a law and even in france there are discussions about fine tuning this bill and not everybody can agree on it vary
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a little tank thankfully not everybody can agree with there absolutely and i think you know those battle in my view for the very soul of france happening right now in this bill is just one example of that are you know the bill has since gone through the senate in the sun and senate it actually was hardens in other words there were additional provisions added to it which were even more worrying you know suggestions now that you would remove that welfare for all students who were absentee absent from school and this is clearly aimed at the fact that you know there were no provisions for children for example to take a day off school for aid which is a big celebration which we were at 10000000 people in france for whom it is as just as important as christmas is for christians all secular people and so we could now imagine that french muslims many of whom offer more impoverished communities and
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maybe dependent on welfare could have those welfare payments removed these a punitive measures we're seeing mothers who would be wanting to accompany their children in an act of civic duty on say a school outing now being banned we've seen muslim women who would like to go you know in stay healthy when the middle of a massive health pandemic they want to go swimming no they can't now there are provisions suggesting that you wouldn't be able to wear a full length swimming suit to a swimming pool all of this very much creates a climate which i think is increasingly clear and dividing france into 2 parts and i think it's important to remember that just as there in the heart i ask you this very quickly then we'll see is very quickly because i'm always is really curious are the we've got here right now almost this is not quite the only doing this to get more far right follow us is there for a too loose of the pen in the next elections that's a very swift asmer in that. i don't think he's afraid of losing to
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ben i think he's keen to take. some of it appends electorate and in fact he doesn't the far right have been used as a call to sort of scare crow in french politics to say oh no you know the far right might win quick vote for us but actually what we've seen is on the left and the right there are policies that have very much in line with what the far right has been pushing for decades now they have set the agenda when it comes to the civic cohesion social cohesion in particular when it comes to miss dems and now they are french is essentially have set the tone thank you very m i want to release this conversation with the world drab day ambassador because this conversation is about science but it does much over the insults actually explains why. with this potential hit job and people all over the world are feeling it really even how special an internship is this year through the job day $380.00 in job 3 where there
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are a lot of anonymous claims britons remaining in fasting in wearing a jock to stand in solidarity and some of them have even chosen to do this because of friends and i think people just hope that france will understand it and will learn what it is there be any why the job is so important to jobs for a good it's are free to act to worship to god the job is modesty the job is our choice and friendster it is oppression they've been did they are saving us from oppression but they're not they're doing the oppressing conversation about a bill in saul's that has gone global thank you so much. miriam for helping us understand it in a much deeper way much appreciate it that i mean move on to what we'll be doing next week on the street next week we are dedicating all of our shows to climate action and climate crisis so if you would like to be part of those shows you know
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