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hi i'm femi oke a today on the stream a die lemma what happens when a country discovers fossil fuels why the well as it is facing a climate crisis extract them or leave them exactly where they are this is not a hypothetical situation today's stream is all about the east african crude oil pipeline when it's finished it will run from uganda all the way through to tanzania so that the crude oil can get to a port now there are considerable economic benefits potentially from this pipeline

but environmentalists want to shut it down here are 2 opposing positions have a listen. essentially we see this project creating quite a substantial number of jobs. including turns in the air and perhaps the internet is something i can return. to what it's meant to day is about 5000 jobs that will be directly related to the projects there will be in direct jobs and there will also be induced benefits from the projects we learned in the 11th hour of peace to save the planet from the most catastrophic climate scenarios which we will see in our lifetimes if we do not significantly decarbonize the global economy in the next decade that means we simply cannot afford to be opening up vast new oil reserves and it makes no economic sense for any country to bet its future on a fuel that is guaranteed to become obsolete it's give me

a little taste of the debate weighing in as well if you could be in the comment section and be part of today's discussion let's meet our guests samuel had a landry hello elizabeth really good to have you here on the stream samuel welcome to tell everybody who you are and what a day thank you very much to my memory from where to go i what we've been vitamin governor of. the big negative up with the r. and b. and betterment of one of the students on it and you know that the walk to the prom what if you know what argument of environment i'm not going to put in uganda i know what for environmental rights across i will be walking on the equal because i would rather get to have you hello landry tell our audience who you are and what you say . i run one of these laundry interests are managing director pretty africa pretty we are a global company organization and we work with frontline communities. and partners

to stop the proliferation of us humans and to cure matusow the energy that conserve the planet i'm going to getting from nairobi nice to have it connected with us here on the stream and welcoming us of of to the stream tell audience who you are and what you day and my name is liz that go into the list let's go i'm based in nairobi kenya and here is the president of east africa or the africa energy chamber i'm also an entrepreneur and i own the oil services company a soup nairobi with eastern africa. and well we around east africa so a lot of i've been watching some local t.v. in uganda local news in tanzania paid for some people are very excited about this pipeline super excited about the potential if you could explain in a nutshell what it is what its purpose is what would you say. welcome me

this is a world class development that's far too old to happen i came to uganda in 2011 well now tell or was still exploring and there was a lot of excitement as to what was what was ahead of us it has taken us this long to finally see what looks to be the beginning of the pipeline and of the project that to langer as well as the kingfish development. so yes they. will bring all the oil development will bring a lot of jobs as was mentioned by your former guest is also a big factor in the economic drive for uganda like any and it projects but also where those of us who are in the oil and gas industry that it comes with certain constraints and we know what that is about where in iran right now where things are drastically changed the climate change is a big big debate the environment is

a big debate and believe it a lot those of us oil the oil and gas sector we stand with people who are there to protect the environment however we still say that development has to go ahead we still say that countries have sovereign rights to determine how they're going to use their resources and we say that this will be done in a very sustainable manner. let me just share with you this is a pool of 11 this is when you canada and tasmania lead us they signed an agreement land i want you to watch this and tell me how you reacted when you saw it this is from you they say. the person for. the printer for goodness to prove it to give us a bigger market on russian roses you can use this a no no this agreement is in

a special circulation not just for uganda interns and their beds but in terry's south africa region israel where this project will have an impact and social government development agency or strategic they now mix. that was quite a ceremony as a lot of pomp and circumstance there it's incredibly seems from the outside to be incredibly important to uganda and tanzania your thoughts. certainly on that day and at the same time i was in the meeting we've fellow colleagues and from east africa and across the continent and they were exactly reflecting on how can we do it but in this particular moment how can we come up with new ways innovative ways such terrible ones to ensure that the planet gets back better after the pandemic and i was inspired to write to both president to get

a we might call it one is and i got it was of another client you're going to meet activists telling them our concerned tell him in expressing our really great and deep concern about the development of this project because one of the concerns the concerns are multiple multiple we have not only environmental concerns but also social injustices economy concerns as well and the whole. lack of transparency and lack of information around it is property so we feel this is a project which is going to be a socially catastrophic indeed has already for many of the affected communities this is a project which is likely to be disastrous for the environment because. it emitted that was constructed the pup plan would generate over $34000000.00 tonnes of carbon emissions and today's especially in does to occasion when toward leaders are meeting to meeting about the climate images and when they've been guided by

president biden to reflect on how can. it's quite hard to imagine that the both countries have decided to proceed with the project which is going to have extremely dire consequences for. $13000.00 families in both countries going to destroy natural habitat is going to have multiple impact on what i'm sources. in the leg to refresh person and not to talk even about. the betting on the oil industry at the moment we know the course just clearly in. global market and of course the world. argument that it's put is going to create jobs for the locals but are still to hear how many jobs are really going to benefit the locals in this particular context so there's a question something what i've said confused about is elizabeth talking about the

fossil fuel industry standing by environmentalists i don't know how those 2 things are possible at the same time samuel. i think i got to check up on top of what they are you can find there's nothing and saying that they're going to the oil industry is going to create job how about you realize my colleague but what about bipartisan jobs and this most of these are going into a practice how many of them are going to benefit in the court before the court there's a debate saying they decline in that actually goes by the we the people need your vote yes but they need not say in their board of yours that can deal with got on future we cannot continue getting divorced from the or in the future is about ending what i know in uganda a little potential inquirers thing that we invested in putting in the thing then you can go to get a dog that can because then they want to put in the economy as well as be able to ensure the people i want to benefit from the investment that isn't enough is one of

the bombing that killed one dwight and uganda as from an espresso what alec and i know the investment in this area has a lot of potential and that can be able to what to great number of jobs that sustainable than investing in the sector that is about to end within the at the same had their own wildest pressure going to plan and that year and we did in fact that we shall not be having the year that have been promised now that we need to invest in this but they nibble away which you've got after a potential at which i believe a lot of the people i'm just looking at you and is off the end of a couple of comments coming up where people are very concerned about what remains the employment prospects may well think so just says that probably shipped 5000 foreigners with experience in the field rather than hiring of course a list of phone. well if the foreigners look like me i hope that won't be

a problem coming from yeah but this said this is a development that has never happened in this part of the world so yes you are definitely going to start off with a large international but during the period during this transition period we would expect god and god and country to instill strong local content laws thereby allowing its people you know to to gain experience if i'm a kenyan left my home country to go to america and to learn about oil and gas and become a practitioner of oil and gas and decided to come home and then many many more of us will have taken taken that route and are back back home so at the beginning it may seem as though it is very western in terms of the the the expos that will come but with time we hope you will transition to the not just only ugandan project this is an east african project and it's not just uganda and tanzania so if i make any i

think i think sometimes it puts too much emphasis on just the jobs remember that the east africa economy as we call it is just one part of a development you have. a development that's the field themselves and then you have the refinery and i don't know if you're aware that uganda being a landlocked country relies in kenya to toss for all its refined products comes to the port of a bass and taken by road up to uganda this is a lot. for uganda to be able to be become more self sustaining by building and finally they also be able to sell products within within the region and sell the excess to the markets yes i agree with my colleagues that we are making there is an energy transition but that transition is no heart stopped. going

to say that in 2035 we're all going to new york well energy kenya is a country where you can pull energy strong where the largest just sample provided in africa but we still have an energy mix we still use fossil fuels so my argument is that if we're able to develop this particular point this world class project the way it should be that is best in class technology and very good care of the environment then i think we have we have a chance to be able to push uganda where it needs to be as well as the region so i urge my brothers and sisters in the environmental science. just understand we are with you i don't think there is any industry like the oil and gas that is day particular when it comes to the lives of our help so i care to i continue to be confused about how you can be with communities when there are going to be reading

very specific challenges let me play here i'm a zoomer who is very specific not about the jobs about what happens when a pipeline goes for your community here yes. mr newcome there were 2 bodies through which despite planes being too poncey know this we know the community of east africa extensively because 1st of all this isn't the weed we have in uganda from reports it's one that needs to be heated for its to fuel up to conquer an indifference to so heated you don't know what happened see between it can easily look at this inside look at the torah and look at the 2 that it's not just you know does this kind of confinement over they can cause a lot of to be targets but you know i think that the entire community of east africa how will this be addressed in the future is what you don't know so we will we need to know all discussion of you know lines so that we see how is it going to help the people here and how is it going to help the economy of this country if this is going to be a brace then it was there's

a lot of challenges down to benefits that you see people speak about or the 2 governments that signed this agreement speak about. suddenly that is a real failure right. now that samuel coming on this as the environmentalist in the conversation sunlight is a real fair right that is a f.e.m.a. what is it likely had a week when you put a pipeline for communities is absolutely going to happen the water will be polluted the land will be things that some of your thoughts i think you better my thinking yes putting it into context you're buying the pipeline in your benefit i'm not going to pour what tend to fix everything from from all the oil. up toward and this is going to displace what probably from the our. i'm talking through all day by day but putting through all the legs of which we're going to have been depending on being. quite a long period of time and they're promised that they are going to have. studies

just oil companies have done quite a number of studies valuable but it was not the way in africa where. we had to buy oil in the sea or to buy land development together with the together with the environmental conservation so we call upon we know that there's always going to be able to balance the development you know if you've done. this in much importance one of them more by they brought in the africa and you've got a lot of and they make bases in this region not only a study done in western or in the nothing of the course of nature and in fact some of the endemic this is some of the by the rest areas that have been impacted however rushing a pipeline would dismiss people for. not only live the land that they're being dismissed on they are not going to want as africa could even increase the more impact on environment they'll believe that he might does the studies are being done

as much as the oil companies are putting on the apprentice putting the mission to see how they can deal with the violence does that i mean we know that but isn't that the right as the potential to get their way or the revenues that you've got don't need to be prepared to do the know it's done great job the fishing industry isn't alive or not being revenue as a crude oil pipeline can tories come up with that much revenue. want to invest. in that didn't want to invest in the fishing industry want to invest in. the to autism in the city does the potential of the revenues that take them and michelle attention potential potential landing go ahead what do you want to say. so to say is the product being described as what class project is really catastrophic we're just want to state that again because at the moment where we are in living in

double trouble prices and we're figuring out how to do but in a better way in most sustainable way really been drilling in. a region which is. one of the most. critical diverse and rich also in terms of wildlife in the product in an area with 1000 of people are going to be affected and displaced in the near real worried. say to be generating jobs but also some are saying it's probably very junior drops for the locals it's quite ironic and i put it to go and i just want to point out that this is a kind of project which is going to benefit the companies the developers and probably . elite that i've been working with this project this project has been hasn't been demanded and asked by the locals to look at there are so many viable sustainable

ecology call project and deployment ventures that can still be made available for them where they can contribute and ensure the future these products are bought by probably people who may not be around in the next 30 or 40 years when we start feeling the impact of it as a muscle to say the question around the risk of the problem exploding or pollution is very likely to happen as we have been seeing in the night as i have lots of questions for you are right so we've got 5 minutes to questions and excuse me because i want to share this conversation with al oh yes and i want to spend eva sponsor fun for all. if you say here let's start with this one chess this jobs or not compare potential jobs to the destruction that the east african crude oil

pipeline could cause elizabeth instant reaction go ahead. well you know and yes you believe that this is a product in a product that is good for the ugandan navy i don't know how to. how to convey the person who said that i strongly believe that at this point in the end it's going to be the candidate to decide do they want is all or don't do they want to reap any benefits from it or don't they so we can sit here and debate all we want but in uganda we're moving on i think into its day as the country uganda has felt accomplish various projects how will it be able to finish this giant project so. yes i know a number of projects that uganda could but there would be a been in it and i know you're going to predict that uganda some of them are being

run and up with a look if you're going to get the port up you on monday they picked long to be complicated and end up. that you've got at the end to incur a lot of there's been a long run so i really don't think that the this is a viable predictor uganda we have other variables that we need to invest in and which would work out that's been a bully what if country and that is good and i did you know grab a room now pitching in that there would have been the backbone or our economy or even before it was discovered and i believe in the way we're open uganda is quite a campaign that's going on elizabeth right now the stop be a c o p campaign to stop the pipeline and one of the ways that activists are trying to stop the pipeline is to squeeze the money if there's no money how can you develop the pipeline we got in touch with standard bank and this is what they told us because some of the big financial guys asians who would

normally back big infrastructure projects like this the environmentalists are saying you shouldn't be doing this let me show you what they said to us and sent the statement to us stand up banks new fossil fuels financing policy sets out stringent conditions for lending to fossil fuel projects among other conditions project owners must commit to minimizing of adjusting greenhouse gas emissions standard bank group statement a full $192021.00 so this is still confusing elizabeth i don't know how you can be extracting fossil fuels and also reducing greenhouse gases that i think that some kind of magic that i'm not aware of does it even occur to you as something is working fossil fuels that you need to come up with a solution is there another solution that's renewable sustainable and not to do with extraction is that possible. i mean they are the solutions as i've told you

genuinely dump lieutenant we have a job. as well as uganda but it's still in its and i'm still of the opinion that there is a particular project if it can be financed if it follows very stringent environmental criteria is if you use the best technology there you'll be able to mitigate a lot of the concerns that people are really like any large structure any large worlds. 100 percent you will not get a lot happening you will have some issues it's just that oil or gas or fossil fuels . in this particular time have been badly this project had come a line 5 years ago. the city of i think it was i think you'd still be on the stream but you might not be on any other networks what you want to have and if they're really on the street really is a because where that kind of show i can tell you i am just i am fascinated by where

this debate will go because the environmentalists are very determined the developers are very determined and who scored in the middle the people who live in east africa and lizabeth landry samuel thank you so much for your time really appreciate if you chipper is very good comments excellent very excellent questions there thanks for helping me out or at so all of this week is climate emergency we care on the street april the 22nd is earth day and i colleagues in the newsroom are going to be rolling out multiple stories let me show you some of them have a look here on my laptop chain a you act correspondent in china 70 these pictures investigating the future of fossil fuels in china and the coal industry also look out for step fasten step is going to be at the level and biggest dike trying to reinforce it against the north sea. what may well be happening in the netherlands these

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