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a very challenging place to work. towards here you can do it it's not allowed to build always. most. people are being detained for peacefully march here for the time we are travelling the extra mile where are the. story. hi i'm femi oke a today on the stream. what happens when a country discovers fossil fuels why the wells is facing a climate crisis extract them or leave them exactly where they are this is not a hypothetical situation today's stream is all about the east african crude oil pipeline when it's finished it will run from uganda all the way through to tanzania

so that the crude oil can get to a port now there are considerable economic benefits potentially from this pipeline but environmentalists want to shut it down here are 2 opposing positions have a listen. certainly we see this project created seeing quite a substantial number of jobs for ugandans including turns in the air and perhaps the internet is separate and region. but what is smiths today is about 5000 jobs that will be directly related to the bridge eggs that will be in there x. jobs and there will also be induced benefits from the project we're not in the 11th hour to save the planet from the most catastrophic climate scenarios which we will see in our lifetimes if we do not significantly decarbonize the global economy in the next decade that means we simply cannot afford to be opening up new oil

reserves and it makes no economic sense for any country to bet its future on a fuel that is guaranteed to become obsolete it's give me a little taste of the debate as well if your new t.v. could be in the comment section and be part of today's discussion that's made our guests samuel had a landry hello elizabeth really good to have you here on the stream samuel welcome tell everybody who you are and what a day. thank you very much malaria somewhere your clone i what we've been vitamin governance is the cure the big negative whopper and the betterment of and the reason it endures that the walk to the prom what if you know what i mean of environment i'm not beautiful in uganda i don't work for environmental rights across and i've been working on the economy because i would either get to have you hello landry tell our audience who you are and what you say i'll run one of these laundry interests or the managing director pretty. pretty we are

a global company organization and we work with frontline communities. and partners to stop the proliferation of us humans and to cure matusow the energy that conserved the planet connecting from nairobi nice to have it connecting with us here on the stream and welcoming us of of to the station tell audience who you are and what you day and my name is liz that will go into the list but certainly i'm based in nairobi kenya and here is the president of south africa for the african energy chamber i'm also i wanted to learn and own a few services company basically nairobi with diesel is in africa. and well we around. so a lot of i've been watching some local t.v. in uganda local news in tanzania paid for some people are very excited about this pipeline super excited about the potential if you could explain in

a nutshell what it is what its purpose is what would you say. welcome me this is a world class development that's a part 2 to happen. to uganda 2011 well now tell or was still exploring and there was a lot of excitement as to what was what was ahead of us it has taken us this long to finally see what looks to be the beginning of the line of the project that elaina as well as the kingfish development. so yes they. will bring all that all development will bring a lot of jobs as was mentioned by your former guests is also a big factor in the economic drive for uganda like any any it projects but we are also aware of those of us who are in the oil and gas industry that comes with

certain constraints and we know what that is about where in iran right now where things are drastically changed the climate change is a big debate the environment is a big debate and believe is a lot those of us oil the oil and gas sector we stand with people who are there to protect the environment however we still say that development has to go ahead we still say that countries have sovereign rights to determine how they're going to use their resources and we see that this will be done in a very sustainable manner let me just share with you this is a poor thing 11 this is when you kind of tasmania lead us they signed an agreement land i want you to watch this and tell me how you reacted when you saw it this is from you they say. the only person we're.

going to stop or look to give us a bigger market on russian roses you can do is this a no no this agreement is in a special circulation not just for you and the interns and their beds but into a staff to go region is really a way of this project to have an impact and social government development agency or strategic they now mix. and that was quite a ceremony as a lot of pomp and circumstance that it's incredibly seems from the outside to be incredibly important to uganda and tanzania your thoughts. certainly on that day and at the same time i was in the meeting we for fellow colleagues and from east africa and across across the continent and they were exactly reflecting on how can we in this particular moment how can we come up we've new ways innovative ways such anabelle ones to ensure that the planet gets back

better after the pandemic and i was inspired to write to both president to get a we might call it one is and i got it was of another client you're going to meet activists telling them are concerned tell him in expressing our really great and deep concern about the development of this project because one of the concerns the concerns are multiple multiple we have not only environmental concerns but also social injustices economy concerns as well and the whole. lack of transparency and lack of information around it is property so we feel this is a project which is going to be a socially catastrophic it is already for many of the affected communities this is a project which is likely to be disastrous for the environment because. it emitted that was constructed the pump plan would generate over $34000000.00 tonnes of

carbon emissions and today's especially in these 2 occasion when toward leaders are meeting to meeting about the climate images and you know when they've been guided by president biden to reflect on how can we it's quite hard to imagine that both countries have decided to proceed with the project which is going to have extremely dire consequences for. 13000 families in both countries going to destroy the natural habitat is going to have multiple impact on what i'm source is. in the league to reapproach person and not to talk even about. the betting on the oil industry at the moment we know the course descry in. global market and of course the world. argument that this approach is going to create jobs for

the locals what are still to hear how many jobs are really going to benefit the locals in this particular context so there's a question something what i've said confused about is elizabeth talking about the fossil fuel industry standing by environmentalists i don't know how those 2 things are possible at the same time samuel. guy gone check up on top reshape what they are you can find there's nothing and saying that they're going to the oil industry is going to create job however you realize my colleague what about my father and the op and this most of these you're going into it how many of them are going to benefit in the court before the court there's a debate saying they decline in that actually goes by the button we the people need your vote yes but they need not say in their body that can deal with got on p.b.s. future we cannot continue getting divorced in the future is about ending what i know in uganda a little potential in gliders thing that we invested in putting in the thing then

you can build again at a job that can be the state they want to put in the economy as well as be able to enter the. i want to benefit from the investment if you're saying enough is one of the bombings but there's one right and you can as from an espresso what i make i don't know the investment in this area has a lot of potential and that can be able to what do great in number of jobs that's the thing that more than investing like that that is about to end within the at the same. there on was just frustrating to play in that year and we didn't but that we shall not be having the year of that have been promised now that we need to invest in it but they nibble away which you've got after a potential at which i believe a lot for the people i'm just looking at you choose to live off the end of a couple of comments coming up that's what people are very concerned about what real sampling the prospects may roping so just solve that problem ship 5000

finance with experience in the field rather than hiring of course a list of thoughts. well if the foreigners look like me i hope that won't be a problem coming from yeah but this said this is a development as never happen in this part of the world so yes you are definitely going to start off with a large international but during the period during this transition period we would expect the ugandan and country to instill strong local content laws thereby allowing its people you know to to gain experience if i'm a kenyan left my home country to go to america and to learn about oil and gas and become a practitioner of oil and gas and decided to come home and then many many more of us will have taken taken that route and are back back home so at the beginning it may seem as though it is very western in terms of the the the expos that will come

but with time we hope you will transition to the not just only ugandan project this is an east african project and it's not just uganda and tanzania so if i make any i think i think sometimes it puts too much emphasis on just the jobs remember the east africa cop as you call it is just one part of a development you have the. development that's the field themselves and then you have the refinery and i don't know if you're aware that uganda being a land locked country relies in kenya to cost for all its refined products comes to the 41 basket and taken by road up to uganda this is a lot. for uganda to be able to be become more self sustaining by building and finally they also be able to sell products within within the region and sell the excess to the markets yes i agree with my colleagues that we are

making though there is an energy transition but that transition is no heart stopped . local to say that in 2035 we're all going to new york will energy kenya is a country where you will energy strong where the largest just some or provider in africa but we still have an energy mix we still use fossil fuels so my argument is that if we are able to do develop this particular target this world class project the weight should be that is best in class technology and. chair of the environment then i think we have we have a chance to be able to push uganda where it needs to be at as well as the region so i urge my brothers and sisters in the environmental science. just understand we are with you i don't think there is any industry like the oil and gas that is day particular when it comes to listen to help so i can i continue to be confused about

how you can be with communities when there are going to be reading very specific challenges let me play here i'm a 00 is a very specific not about the jobs about what happens when a pipeline goes for your community here yes. let's look at there were the bodies through which despite planes being too poncey or destroyed off the community of east africa extensively because 1st of all it isn't deployed we have in uganda from reports that needs to be heated 42 floors up to tonga i mean to process all she could you don't know what hundreds see between it can easily look at this inside like the toria i lived through that is not just you know does this kind of confinement over they can cause a lot of to be targets not to i think to the entire community of east africa how we dismiss aggressed in the future is what we don't know so what would we need to know or discussion of you know lines so that we see how is it going to help the people

here and how is it going to help the economy of this country if this going to be a great stay in it for there's a lot of challenges done to benefits that d.c. people speak about or the 2 governments that signed this agreement speak about. suddenly that is a real fail right that is well know that samuel come in on this as a environmentalist in the conversation sunlight is a real fair right that is a f.e.m.a. what is it likely had a way when you put a pipeline for communities is absolutely going to happen the water will be polluted the land will be through they said some of your thoughts. i think very much i think to put it into context you find the pipeline in uganda say that london is going to cross 10 districts that is from moore took me from all the oil fields in the high mile up the motor and this is going to displace what qualifies on 5 minutes from the house and passing through on the by

a bus the crossing through the leg which form into something depending on the court at quite a long period of time and there's a problem is that i'm going to have studies i'm going to have done quite a number of studies that valuable but it was not in the way in africa where. we had the oil industry been able to buy land development together with the together with a environmental conservation so. we know that there's always going to be able to balance the development you know if you've done this in much importance one of them more by the by in the africa and you've got a lot of and then nic this is in this region not all of the studies that were done in western or in the nothing of the course of nature and in fact some of the endemic this is some of the by the rest of it is that we've been impacted however up washing up by plane we just missed the boat and people will not only live the

land that they're being dismissed on they are not. as african even increases more impact on environment so believe that. as much does the studies are being done as much as the oil companies putting on the apprentice putting that misha to see how they can build the violence does the government you know that the what is an industry might have the potential to get their rate on the revenues that you guys don't need to prepare to do the know it's got a great job the fishing industry isn't alive or not i mean revenue as a crude oil pipeline can tories come up with that much revenue. what if we invest in our imagine reinvest in the fishing in death we want to invest in me that grew out of the investment it does the potential of again big revenue that peckham itself potential potential potential i have what do you want to say. so

is the product being described as a world class project is really a catastrophic one just want to state that again because at the moment where we are living in double trouble prices and we're figuring out how to do but in a better way in most sustainable way really been drilling in. a region which is. one of the most. critical diverse and rich also in terms of wildlife in the product in an area were thousands of people are going to be affected and displaced in the near real worried . say to be generating jobs but also some are saying it's probably very junior drops for the locals it's quite ironic and i put it to go and i just want to point out that this is a kind of project which is going to benefit the companies the developers and

probably. the elite that i've been working with this project this project has been hasn't been demanded and asked by the locals to look at their so many viable sustainable ecology call project and deployment ventures that can still be made available for them where they can contribute and ensure the future these products are bought by probably people who may not be around in the next 30 or 40 years when we start feeling the impact of it as a muscle to say the question around the risk of the problem exploding or pollution is very likely to happen as we have been seeing in the night as i have lots of questions for you are right so we've got 5 minutes to questions excuse me because i want to share this conversation with our only at and i want to spend eva sponsor. if you say here let's start with this one chess these jobs were not

compare potential jobs to the destruction that the east african crude oil pipeline could cause elizabeth instant reaction go ahead. well you know and yes you believe that this is a product in a product that is all for uganda. i don't know how to. how to convert the person who said that i strongly believe that this. is going to be the standard to decide you things one does it all or don't do they want to be any benefits from it or don't so we can sit here and debate all we want but in uganda we're moving on i think into its day as the country uganda has felt to accomplish various projects how will it be able to finish this giant project some will.

yes i know derek by a number of projects that you've been there but there would be it been finished and i know you're going to predict that you've been there some of them are being run and up. if you're going to go to board up you on monday they picked long to be complicated and end up there. that you got up there to inquire and look up it's been a long run so i really don't think that the this is the way we're predict what you've done that we are either wearable or that we need to invest in and which would work out the thing that we would have country and that is real and i do you know grab a room now preaching in that there would have been a buck born or our economy or even before where it was discovered and i believe in the. uganda there's quite a campaign that's going on elizabeth right now the stop be a c o p campaign to stop the pipeline and one of the ways that activists are trying to stop the pipeline is to squeeze the money if there's no

money how can you develop the pipeline we got in touch with standard bank and this is what they told us because some of the big financial guys asians he would know me back big infrastructure projects like this the environmentalists are saying you shouldn't be doing this let me show you what they said to us and sent the statement to us send it banks new fossil fuels financing policy sets out stringent conditions for lending to fossil fuel projects among other conditions project owners must commit to minimizing of adjacent greenhouse gas emissions standard bank group statement a full 192021 so this is still confusing elizabeth i don't know how you can be extracting fossil fuels and also reducing greenhouse gases that i think that some kind of magic that i'm not aware of does it even occur to you as something is working fossil fuels that you need to come up with a solution is there another solution that's renewable sustainable and not to do

with extraction is that possible. i mean they are the solutions as i've told you jane if they dump. more. as well as uganda but it's still in its and i'm still of the opinion that there is a particular project if it can be financed it could silos very stringent environmental criteria is if you use the best technology there you'll be able to mitigate a lot of the concerns that people are releasing any large structure any large in the world. 100 percent you will not. you will have some issues have huge issues that oil or gas or fossil fuels. basically have a badly this project had come a line 5 years ago you and i would be a city of i think you know i think you'd still be on the stream but you might not

be on any other networks what you want to have and if they're really on the street because where that kind of show i hear you i am just i am fascinated by where this debate will go because the environmentalists are very determined the developers are very determined and who scored in the middle the people who live in east africa elizabeth landry samuel thank you so much for your time really appreciate if you chipper is very good comrades excellent very excellent questions there thanks for helping me out or at so all of this week is climate emergency week here on the street april the 22nd is earth day and our colleagues in the newsroom are going to be rolling out multiple stories let me show you some of them have a look here on my laptop because cheney you act correspondent in china sent me these pages investigating the future of fossil fuels in china and the coal industry also look out for step fasten step is going to be at that level and like trying to

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