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has produced the 1st album oxygen on mars extraction converted from a sample of the planet's carbon dioxide rich atmosphere is the equivalent of about 10 minutes of breathable oxygen says this could open up possibilities for further experimentation towards sea humans on the red planet in future the atmosphere on mars is mostly carbon dioxide and is $100.00 times thinner than earth's many humans would be unable to survive there without their own oxygen source. on the top stories and i was there dozens of world leaders have joined top businesspeople activists and even pope francis at a 2 day meeting on climate change the summit was hosted on earth day by u.s. president joe biden he says the u.s. will now am to cut emissions by 50 to 52 percent of 2005 levels by the end of this decade that's nearly double the previous target or chinese president xi jinping
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vowed to phase down coal consumption by 2030 china has committed to move from carbon peak to carbon neutrality in a much shorter time span than what might take many developed countries and that requires extraordinary harder for its from china supporters been given to encourage peking pioneers from localities sectors in companies we were strictly control coal fired power generation projects we go strictly limit the increase in coal consumption over the 4005 year plan period and phase it down in the 15th 5 year plan period. brazil's president diable so narrow says his country will reach its goals on climate neutrality by 2050 significantly earlier than expected he says that will be helped by the end ending of illegal deforestation clearing of the amazon has soared hitting a 12 year high last year. india has experienced the world's worst day for
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a new current of arson cases nearly 315000 infections were reported on thursday the 2nd day in a row more than 2000 people have died while hospital beds and oxygen remain in short supply people travel for hours to reach hospital with many turned away once they arrive. russia has ordered its troops back to their permanent bases after launch drills in crimea and near its border with ukraine the defense ministry says it's successfully completed its snap checks but military hardware will be left behind for another exercise later this year and a funeral has been held in the u.s. state of minnesota for dante wright shot dead by a police officer this month friends and family paid tribute to the 20 year old who was killed during a routine traffic stop in brooklyn center in minneapolis. the stream is up next asking how dangerous climate misinformation is often a. while
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come to the final episode in the streams climate a week we're going to start this episode by going back. in 188 the un established a climate change organization i.p.c.c. where scientists from the whole world agreed with james and. been well cletus listened. to anything about this greenhouse effect and are forgetting about the white house event evidence. damage.
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can. do nothing. this is more than 30 years ago. the world was ready to act. so what took us so long to take the climate crisis seriously or one of the big reasons is because of climate deniers climate change deniers misinformation out this information that is our show today i would love it stay part of it if you're on youtube you can do so by jumping into the comments section you want to talk to i guess i have a journalist who's been covering the climate crisis and climate change for over 30 years we have another jealous he's an expert at de bunking misinformation she will literally be showing and telling us how she does it statement.
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now that i've hiked them off and i mark heller sure no psychic to have him on the stream mark will you introduce us south to the stream audience. i am mark hertsgaard everybody i am the executive director of current climate now that's a consortium of hundreds of news outlets to all the world including i'm happy to say al-jazeera english and we are dedicated to improving coverage of the climate story and then he said i'm in government only changed there is now. there is print and broadcast outlets including the nation magazine or of the current environment so i get to have you know welcome to the strain it heavily if you will what you day pay for me i'm a journalist focusing on misc and get information to try to find out how best to combat things that go birol that simply aren't true i want to start a market sauna with a comment from a set list so why men and alyssa really takes us back to what is the problem with
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climate crisis and why we're not better at addressing it he says for over 50 years big polluters have used big tobacco's playbook to spread misinformation and it's quite by parking unities globally in order to continue their businesses deceive people and basically bury the truth industry muslim burmese stand and this p.r. is not a barrier to building the political will needed to an actual real and just climate solutions these corporations basically spread this misinformation themselves or use their front groups to try to protect their brand and convince people that there are these good corporate citizens when we all know whether anything by mark taught us about a scam. you know this i mean the viewer has it exactly right and she is 'd the same what has subsequently been confirmed by some excellent investigative reporting
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that began appearing about 5 years 'd ago now from the los angeles times and particular but also inside climate news and the columbia journalism school that essentially can be summarized in the hashtag exxon knew these investigative journalists went back into actions archives and were able to document with exxon's on records that exxon's top scientists by $982.00 were telling the top executives at exxon mobil that our product is going to burn the plant in use exactly that term but they did say that it could cause the planet to become uninhabitable if it continued this way and so we know for a fact that for 'd almost 30 years now the top people inside of exxon mobil and subsequent investigation show that this also happened at chevron and shell and most of the oil companies doing knew they knew exactly what they were doing and instead of leveling with the american public and with policymakers and i daresay
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with us in the press they decided to lie about it to maintain their proper margins and as i say this is no longer just simply an accusation that's made by activists investigative journalism has now shown as conclusively and you can find out if you just look at exxon new you'll find all the documents there. i'm just looking here at mock a story that. 22. preventative while washington slept tell us about that story and then patsy at. yeah it's funny that dated 2010 they must have updated it has that story actually 1st ran in 2006 so that's 15 years ago and that was the 1st piece where a journalist myself in this case was able to document the so-called tobacco connection and in fact that the caller mentioned this that essentially the oil
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companies use the same playbook that the tobacco companies used to lie about cigarette smoking causing cancer and not just the same playbook they literally use the very same scientists the man in frederick science who at that time was the president of rockefeller university and professor sides dr sites i should say he was the conduit for some $45000000.00 into baguio industry funding that was given to various scientists to look at every other possible explanation for why there might be lung cancer except for smoking cigarettes and this is very much in keeping with a now infamous line in public relations history where the public relations companies . one of tobacco perms wrote in an intro secret memo that from now on quote doubt is our product unquote in other words we're no longer selling cigarettes were
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no longer marketing kamler or smoke marlboro rather than extent now we are marketing the concept of doubt to tell the public to tell policymakers and especially government regulators the science isn't so clear about whether smoking causes cancer well does this sound familiar folks this is exactly what the oil industry has been doing since 991 to show those clips many of club president former president bush and prime minster badger sameness and in 1990 they were ready to go down that's exactly what new orleans truly dns or just information model exactly on what the tobacco companies had done earlier. and mark when i when i'm listening to that when i'm looking at social media you'll have seen this too there's such a spectrum of missing dissent from a shinai there and it's become so so broad the one thing that i would say as well as in terms of what we've seen over the past year is that different from asian
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a conspiracy theory the real world impact of those just can't be understated and the intersection between just information conspiracy theories that are often not in neat little boxes that i want to bring to this graphic that was created by a girl called abby richards she's fantastic researcher and it shows how conspiracy theories disinformation they intertwine global warming hoax we probably her all heard about that be disinformation right and some conspiracy theories are right and they can really really easily intertwine with covert conspiracy theories and this graphic the reason why i think it's great that it shows the impact of it and it shows how easy you can move from one dangerous conspiracy theory to another and as you go to the top of that triangle there you move into conspiracy theories that are deeply rooted in things like the semitism conspiracy theory probably all seen before so what i would say is when i look at stuff online and when you and i look at stuff online it's so important to realize that there's many messages that people
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are trying to push out there that can be really dangerous that you might be able to pick up straight away for example when we think of white supremacy many white supremacists do actually also believe in climate change but they want to push out that very very dangerous message that for example refugees are calls in the climate crisis which is just not true and so the mess chain that you have on line be that the information or conspiracy theories knowing that dangerous mess to be pushed pushed forward via social media that's really crucial mark i want to play you my coke he is a consultant for friends of us and so we already know that there was a big. lie about climate change actually happening that it was happening that wasn't a debate the scientists pretty much agreed on the science but why does the climate lie continue this is where michael picks up haven't it's on. this network of
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deniers has been funded by the fossil fuel industry then because politicians conservative influencers pseudo scientists and conspiracy theorists more they gain the ability to keep selling oil by stopping any action on climate change while profiting off the back from one communities like i had. yeah i mean that's that again that's what the data shows us what our best again of reporting shows that this has been a clear strategy and i would just suit our viewers you know don't let yourself be fulled that's what they're trying to do and it's it i think he speaks a real contempt on the part of the oil companies for 'd all our intelligence they think that they can get away with 'd this even though they've been busted on it by the investigative reporters even though it's out there and we know it's the case they are still trying to do for you today including with these ads now around earth day where. i think rachelle who has and hasn't what are you willing to do to
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reduce emissions right as and putting the idea out there that it's in the good will lifestyles that are really at fault here in if only you will recycle that we can solve this well in fact 'd the real problem is there in the boardrooms what we need to recycle are those who are members and to get people in there who believe that the health and future of humanity matters more than their short term profit margins and unfortunately i would simply add an audience in your views on this that you know as bad as social media is it is also greatly amplified by the fact that specially here in the united states there is an entire right wing media infrastructure starting with fox news i hate to say fox news that they had nothing to do with news but fox and the whole 'd right wing radio world that regurgitates all of this and thereby gives it a certain validity in the idea in the in the minds rather of audiences. so the head
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i think that dots been something that's really been documented for a long time and when i was looking up posts that were performing very highly on facebook for example using it to call. quite tangle one of those posts was trying to undermine the severity of climate change and that came from a right wing conservative think tank and so right wing media does have the ability to amplify not only climate denial i think but also the shifting of blame away from for example these companies towards all the things that can just shift the blame in a way that simply just isn't true i think mark you can you can probably see in that an awful lot of the shifting of plane not only on social media but also through these right wing media outlets as well let me just go to you. because i want to for a couple of questions and if you can come up with some brief answers that would be
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great so brian one. how long do we have before we reach a point of no return. look it's already a point of no return for ready the millions of people who have died from this already. you know the air pollution that is caused by fossil fuel burning it is not just over heating the planet it is also destroying the longs of people around the world literally 8000000 people die every year from that air pollution so the limits all of the tipping point past too late now are in terms of the science you know every day matters and that's why today on earth everybody needs to rededicate themselves to really get in the climate urgency under control as quickly as possible so and so what i'm also seeing on the table. conversations that are not accurate it's misinformation as dissent from asians are not going to reset them but lee thank you for your thoughts and a couple of others thank you for your thoughts they're not correct but what i
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wanted to ask you sean and then maybe you can help us out with how do ideas mistaken ideas about climate change or global warming how do they get started how do they go viral. the thing about social media is that it has the ability to spread information extremely rapidly and that information often isn't true so i want to show you just a couple of things that i've thought of previously i want to show you want to my laptop and i examples of when trying misinformation went viral this example for in particular is in relation to the wildfires that occurred along the west coast of the united states back in 2020 the reason why i think this examples so important for you and i to think about is because it was really emotional and easy for people to push the share book not it was one of those viral posts related to the this extreme weather event and it claimed wrongly without any evidence and it was simply
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not true that the group on t.v. was behind the wildfires and used this claiming that this was a marine that was trying to set fire to a car and trying to save people from this actually was a well shared mean previously to 5 years and years before that where you could do is to find where this photo originally came from on the internet using stuff like reverse search anyone could have done that or try to find out more about this but it went viral so so fast and it's soda particular agenda and the reason why these these things are really important to remember is the coast it pushes forward both information at a time of crisis and that kind of information the shifting of blame away from for example climate change towards groups like and teach that it's pushing towards an ideological or political line this is just another example of a political candidate who shared the same messaging people also take things just out of context and you don't need high tech stuff to do that for example that the
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map here at the bottom left corner it was trying to suggest that the wildfires were only centered around a particular area in the west coast came in for example that there were no other wildfires happening of course. that wasn't true at the rice here you can see how many wildfires were happening around the world at that particular time back in september 2020 now and stuff like this it does have impacts for example the emergency services were telling people to stop contacting them saying that mt thought was behind these wildfires because it was taking away were real and valuable resources so the trends that i've been seeing america be interesting interesting to hear your view on this is when we have extreme weather events at there's been not a denial per se across the board of a shifting of blame but often putting the blame and iran place at or or for example in texas we saw people saying that it was the wind turbines that were shutting down
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and that just wasn't true and people sharing that strongly often along political lines or often out of a place of emotion you know that's exactly right that happens and has been happening for many years and i'm speaking to you here today from my home in california and you know just last year during the terrible fires that we had the president trump came here and met with governors and it is a and said that the scientists don't know whether climate change is real scientists don't know whether these fires are connected to climate change and that's just 100 percent incorrect but again when you have a very high level official like that saying something that is utterly wrong it gives further ammunition to the sources and you know i think most of the robots frankly they're not even real people who are putting out this december mission this is algorithms who are responding immediately to spread false rumors and it's not
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hard to understand who's benefiting from this it's not just the oil companies it's also tetra states like russia. i am going to share with you guess some of the suggestions from him unity about what do you do about this that we're not even in the climate crisis climate emergency right now how do you battle the climate deniers who are still out there the misinformation that is still being said they had some ideas and then i'm going to present a tree sandwich walk is going to tell us what that is have a look have a listen a number of solutions have been proposed how to stop or slow the spread of climate misinformation none of these are perfect they all have their kaviak some criticisms the 1st approach is educational and that it would be teaching people critical thinking techniques and use it better education about climate change then there's inoculation research is of paramount when you expose people to a we can form of misinformation it builds up their muti their resilience so they
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pay less likely to be misled women captive actual misinformation the other benefit of this approach is it means that when we knock your people against climate misinformation that also gives them the ability the spotless same rhetorical techniques in other areas like back to measure misinformation or current misinformation they are good we are a community of data science volunteers who are working on national processing algorithms to classify news articles online misinformation disinformation or truth mark plenty of ideas there are plenty of evolving very active about what we can do covering climate now is one of the ways that journalists can say how do we do this better i just want to show our audience a statement here by the partners of covering climate now it's time for journalism to recognise that climate emergency is here this is a state with
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a science not politics mark how we doing as a media globally handling this topic. i think that we are getting slowly better we've found a current climate now 2 years ago at a time of climate science especially here in the united states and most especially among the t.v. networks that are still the dominant source of information for most people we bring the climate silence i think we'll never go back to climate silence but we have a long ways to go before we really as as an industry as a news business do justice to the story of climate change is the defining story of our time and to me the reason that we issued that statement about the climate emergency is precisely because that's what the scientists are telling us it's not activism to say 'd it's a climate emergency that is the phrase 'd scientists using because like with a heart attack you need to respond to an emergency immediately not tomorrow not next week immediately and that is not i'm sad to say that is not how most news
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outlets are covering the story at least not yet so to a social media pathless have been trying. to the us to try and tackle misinformation and to since my phone present because a private one thing and then also telling the rest of that is not going to put their actions around the well how is i'm doing with the climate crisis what i thought i. so pop forms like facebook have made gains or at least trying to tackle more facebook for example they've released their climate change center which aims to provide people with legitimate information trying to put the fox 1st and i think that's a really good step because putting the facts 1st and how you tackle false information is very important and what that will do is and what they're trying to roll out even more is putting labels underneath posts that are talking about climate change and then gearing them towards this new web site that is old
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legitimate scientific information but it's not just facebook and i want to show as just another example here because this particular op it's very difficult to discern where fake news is spreading and that's what's up because it's closed you can't actually see what's happening what's up there messages you probably have like i have some relatives who share messages really quickly on many many of those best is what how false information on us so what's updated how been doing is if a message is spread really really fast so a big sporting going on they will try and slow down that day and the left corner there you can see 2 arrows under the example roy ronald being forward at that to show you something is important numerous times now that was put under cobra 19 due to cope with 19 but it's trying to do that to spread to stop the spread of all the bowls information out there but there's one thing i want to show you as well that's why i'm going to just switch into at this particular. image to show you. tick
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tock so tick tock is where many conspiracy theories tend to go viral and i looked up the word climate just before the show and want to talk was trying to push me for 2 or things like climate change is fake and conspiracy theories like climate control so the tech companies really do have more to do particularly this example they shouldn't be gearing us toward these kind of false claims. i'm just thinking i'm looking at you tube and there is a discussion and there's a debate about the climate crisis about global warming if you were a q. rating. right now what would you be saying or be a pig the line that you would set people straight so the to vary it is right place or not the wrong place. well you mentioned earlier to me that truth sand what's the idea of a truth sandwich we have to be careful with all this information stuff of course it's important to rabbit out of facebook and talk in the others but let's not
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forget that most people the overwhelming majority of people over 75 percent worldwide understand that climate change is real it's manmade serious and we need to do something about it so one tactic is to not give 'd the liars more power than they really have by give them that attention don't pay attention to them and when you talk about the disinformation you put in a truth sandwich so you start with the truth right the truth is that climate change is man made serious the sandwich part is 'd 'd that there's a lot of deniers out there including your companies who are trying to tell you different and then the final piece of bread is the statement that all the science in the world and all the scientific academies around the world 99.9 percent of scientists agree that this is real thank you so much rockefeller have thank you for taking part in our climate of madisonville.
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frank assessments. why why exactly happened and why i may have never taking for a situation like i'm not giving people ever again informed. pinions is the u.s. with thinking the military positioning in the middle east wasn't just a simple act of reorganizing ministry assets this is a message to the region the united states is rethinking its military posture
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a 1000000 man march in the time i've covered wars revolutions elections i'm going to treat poor's. from the favelas of caracas to the battlefields around also our job is to get to the truth and empower people through knowledge. hello unearned tater not in the top stories around jazeera dozens of world leaders have joined top businesspeople activists and even pope francis at a 2 day meeting on climate change the summit was hosted on earth day by u.s. president joe biden he says the u.s. will now aim to cut emissions by 50 to 52 percent of 2005 levels by the end of this decade.
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