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on. this is more than. a girl. the world was ready to act. so what took us so young to take the climate crisis seriously or one of the big reasons is because of climate denier as climate change denial as misinformation out disinflation that is our show today i would love it stay part of it if you can see so by jumping into the comments section you want to talk to access i have a journalist who's been covering the climate crisis and climate change for over 30 years we have another jealousy is an expert at deep banking misinformation she will literally be showing and telling us how she does it statement.

now that i've hiked them off hello mark hello showing us like it's a habit here on the stream mark when you introduce a south to the stream audience. i am or her scary everybody i am the executive director of current climate now that's a consortium of hundreds of news outlets around the world including i'm happy to say al-jazeera english and we are dedicated to improving coverage of the climate story and any said every government on the change there is no. print and broadcast outlets including the nation magazine or of the current environment editor so i get to have him on her show now welcome to the strain it heavily you are what you day pay for me i'm a journalist focusing on misconduct and probation i try to find out how best to combat things that go birol that simply aren't true i want to start a market shona with a comet from the set list so why i've been alyssa really takes us back to what is

the problem with climate crisis and why we're not better at addressing it. for over 50 years big polluters have used big tobacco's playbook to spread misinformation and it's quite by parking unities globally in order to continue the businesses deceive people in and basically bury the truth industry muslim burmese stand in and this p.r. is a massive barrier to building the political will needed to an actual real and just climate solutions these corporations basically spread this misinformation themselves or use their front groups to try to protect their brand and convince people that there are these good corporate citizens when we all know whether anything by mark taught us about a scam. yeah i mean the euro has it exactly right and she is saying what has subsequently been confirmed by some texel investigative reporting

that began appearing about 5 years ago now from the los angeles times and particular but also inside climate news in the columbia journalism school that essentially can be summarized in the hashtag exxon knew these investigative journalists went back into action and archives and were able to document with exxon's on the records that exxon's top scientists by $982.00 were telling the top executives of exxon mobil that our product is going to burn the planet in use exactly that term if they did say that it could cause the planet to become uninhabitable if it continued this way and so we know for a fact that for 'd for almost 30 years now the top people inside of exxon mobil and subsequent investigation showed that this also happened at chevron and shell and most of the or companies they knew they knew exactly what they were doing and instead of leveling with the american public and with policymakers and i daresay

with us in the press they decided to lie about it to maintain their proper margins and as i say this is no longer just simply an accusation that's made by activists investigative journalism has now shown as conclusively and you can find out if you just look at exxon new you'll find all the documents there. i'm just looking here at mock a story that. 22. while washington slept tell us about that story and then patsy at. yeah it's funny that it's dated 2010 they must have updated it because that story actually 1st ran in 2006 so that 15 years ago and that was the 1st piece where a journalist myself in this case was able to document the so-called tobacco connection and in fact that the caller mentioned this essentially the oil companies

use the same playbook that tobacco companies used to lie about cigarette smoking causing cancer and not just the same playbook they literally use the very same scientists the man in frederick science who at that time was the president of rockefeller university and professor sides dr saltz i should say he was the conduit for some 40 $5000000.00 into baguio industry funding that was doomed to various scientists to look at every other possible explanation for why there might be a lung cancer except for smoking cigarettes and this was very much in keeping with a now infamous line in public relations history where the public relations companies. one of tobacco firms wrote in an internal secret memo not from now on quote doubt is our product unquote in other words we're no longer selling

cigarettes were no longer marketing kamler or smoke more or rather than extend now we are marketing the concept of doubt to tell the public to tell policymakers and especially government regulators the science isn't so clear about whether smoking causes cancer well does this sound familiar folks this is exactly what the oil industry has been doing since 991 to show those clips many of the president former president bush and home islands that are saying this and in 1990 they were ready to go there and that's exactly when they were listed in the dns or just information model exactly on what the tobacco companies had done earlier. i'm awkward when i'm listening to that and when i'm looking at social media you'll have seen this too there's such a spectrum of missing dissent from a shinai there and it's become so so broad the one thing that i would say as well as in terms of what we've seen over the past year is that distinct from asian

a conspiracy theory the real world impact of those just can't be understated and the intersection between disinclination conspiracy theories that are often not in neat little boxes that i want to bring to this graphic that was created by a girl called abby richards she's fantastic researcher and it shows how conspiracy theories disinformation they intertwine global warming hoax we probably her all heard about be disinformation right and some conspiracy theories right about they can really really easily intertwine with covert conspiracy theories and this graphic the reason why i think it's great that it shows the impact of it and it shows how easy you can move from one dangerous conspiracy theory to another and as you go to the top of that triangle there you move into conspiracy theories that are deeply rooted in things like the semitism conspiracy theory you probably all seen before so what i would say is when i look at stuff online and when you and i look at stuff online it's so important to realize that there's many messages that people

are trying to push out there that can be really dangerous that you might get to pick up straight away for example when we think of white supremacy many white supremacists do actually also believe in climate change but they want to push out that very very dangerous message that for example refugees are causing the climate crisis which is just not true and so the mess chain that you have on line be that the information or conspiracy theories knowing that dangerous mess just could be pushed pushed forward via social media that's really crucial mark i want to play you michael he is a consultant for friends of us and so we already know that there was a big. about climate change actually happening that it was happening that wasn't a debate the scientists pretty much agreed on the science but why does the climate lie continue this is where michael picks up haven't it's on. this network of

deniers has been funded by the fossil fuel industry and his politicians conservative influencers pseudo scientists and conspiracy theorists more they gain the ability to keep selling oil by stopping any action on climate change while profiting off the back from one communities like i had. yeah i mean that's that again that's what the data shows us what our best to get of reporting shows that this has been a clear strategy and i would just suit our viewers you know don't let yourself be fooled that's what they're trying to do and it is i think he speaks a real contempt on the part of the oil companies for all our intelligence they think that they can get away 'd with this even though they've been busted on an investigative reporter even though it's out there and we know it's the case they're still trying to do for you today including with these ads now around earth day where. i think rachelle who has and hasn't what are you willing to do to

reduce emissions right as and putting the idea out there that it's in to good will lifestyles that are really applaud here in if only you will recycle you know we can solve this well in fact 'd the real problem is there in the boardrooms what we need to recycle are those who are members and to get people in there who believe that the health and future of humanity matters more than their short term profit margins and unfortunately i would simply add and try to be engineer views on this that you know as bad as social media is it is also greatly amplified by the fact that specially here in the united states there is an entire right wing media infrastructure starting with fox news i hate to say fox news that they have nothing to do with news but fox and the whole 'd wedding radio world that regurgitates all of this and thereby gives it a certain bill luti in the idea in the in the minds rather of audiences.

i think it's been something that's really been documented for a long time and when i was looking up posts that were performing very highly on facebook for example using it to call. quite tangle one of those posts was trying to undermine the severity of climate change and docking from a right wing conservative think tank and so right wing media does have the ability to amplify not only climate denial i think but also the shifting of blame away from for example these companies towards all the things that can just shift the blame in a way that simply just isn't true i think mark you can you can probably see in that an awful lot of the shifting of plane not only on social media but also through these right wing media outlets as well let me just go to you. because i want to for a couple of questions and if you can come up with some brief answers that would be

great so brian one are smart how long do we have before we reach a point of no return. look it's already a point of no return for ready the millions of people who have died from this already. you know the air pollution that is caused by fossil fuel burning it is not just over heating the planet it is also destroying the lungs of people around the world literally 8000000 people die every year that there are pollution so the limits are already tipping well past too late now are gems of the science you know every day matters and that's why today on earth everybody needs to rededicate themselves to really getting the climate or urgency under control as quickly as possible so so what i'm also seeing on the table. conversations that are not accurate it's misinformation estis of the masons are not going to reset them but me thank you for your thoughts and a couple of others thank you for your thoughts though not correct but what i wanted

to ask you sean and then maybe you can help us out with how do ideas mistaken ideas about climate change or global warming how do they get started how do they go viral . the thing about social media is that it has the ability to spread information extremely rapidly and that information often isn't true so i want to show you just a couple of things that i've thought of previously i want to show you wanted my laptop and i examples of when trying to misinformation when viral this example for in particular is in relation to the wildfires that occurred along the west coast of the united states back in 2020 the reason why i think this examples so important for you and i to think about is because it was really emotional and easy for people to push the share book not it was one of those viral posts related to this extreme weather event and it claimed wrongly without any evidence and it was simply not

true that the group on t.v. was behind the wildfires and used this claiming that this was a marine that was trying to set fire to a car and trying to save people from this actually was a well shared mean previously dated 5 years and years before that where you could do is to find where this photo originally came from on the internet using stuff like reverse search anyone could have done that or try to find out more about this but it went viral so so fast and it's soda particular agenda and the reason why these these things are really important to remember is because it pushes forward both information at a time of crisis and that kind of information the shifting of blame away from for example climate change towards groups like it's pushing towards an ideological or political line this is just another example of a political candidate who shared the same messaging people also take things just out of context and you don't need high tech stuff to do that for example that the

map here at the bottom left corner it was trying to suggest that the wildfires were only centered around a particular area in the west coast claiming for example that there were no other wildfires happening. of course that wasn't true at the rice here you can see how many wildfires were happening around the world at that particular time back in september 2020 now stuff like this it does have impacts for example the emergency services were telling people to stop contacting them saying that mt was behind these wildfires because it was taking away were real and valuable resources so the trends that i've been seeing america be interesting interesting to hear your view on this is when we have extreme weather events there's been not a denial per se across the board of a shifting of blame but often putting the blame and iran place or for example in texas we saw people saying that it was the wind turbines that were shutting down

and that just wasn't true and people sharing that strongly often along political lines or often out of a place of emotion you know that's exactly right that happens and has been happening for many years you know i'm speaking to you here today from my home in california and you know just last year during the terrible fires that we had for president trump came here and met with governors and it was a and said that the scientists don't know whether climate change is real scientists don't know whether these fires are connected to climate change and that's just 100 percent incorrect but again when you have a very high level official like that saying something that is utterly wrong it gives further ammunition to the sources and you know i think most of the robots frankly they're not even real people who are putting out this dissent or mission this is our are those who are responding immediately to spreading false rumors and

it's not hard to understand who's benefiting from this it's not just their own companies it's also tetra state like russia. i am going to share with your guests some of the suggestions from him unity about what do you do about this that we're not even in the climate crisis emergency right now how do you battle the climate deniers who are still out there the misinformation that is still being shed they had some ideas and then i'm going to present a tree sandwich walk is going to tell us what that is have a look have a listen the number of solutions have been proposed how to store or slow the spread of climate misinformation none of these are perfect they all have their caviar and criticisms the 1st approach is educational and not it would be teaching people critical thinking techniques and use and better education about climate change then there is an occupation research is of paramount when you expose people to a we can form of misinformation it builds up their muti their resilience so they be

less likely to be misled the main character of the actual misinformation the other benefit of this approach is it means that we knock your people against climate misinformation but also gives them the ability to spot no same retard compared makes in our area of large back summation misinformation or current misinformation and for good we're a community of data science volunteers who are working on national processing algorithms to classify news articles online misinformation disinformation or truth mark kelly of ideas there are plenty of evolving very active about what we can do covering climate now is one of the ways that journalists can say how do we do this better i just want to show our audience a statement here by the partners of covering climate now it's time for journalism to recognize that climate emergencies this is a state with

a science not politics mark how we doing as a media globally handling this topic. i think that we are getting slowly better we've found a current climate now 2 years ago at a time of climate science especially here in the united states and most especially among the t.v. networks that are still the dominant source of information for most people we bring the climate silence i think we'll never go back to climate silence but we have a long ways to go before we really as as an industry as a news business do justice to the story of climate change is the defining story of our time and to me the reason that we issued that statement about the climate emergency is precisely because that's what the scientists are telling us it's not activism to say 'd it's a climate emergency that is the phrase 'd science is using because like with a heart attack you need to respond to an emergency immediately not tomorrow not next week immediately and then it is not i'm sad to say that is not how most news

outlets are covering the story at least not yet so to a social media pathways have been tried in the last year. to try and tackle misinformation and to surprise and present because a private one thing and then all centering the rest of that has nothing to offer but their actions around the well how was doing with the climate crisis what i thought i. so pop forms like facebook have made gains or at least trying to tackle it more facebook for example they've released their climate change center which aims to provide people with legitimate information trying to put the facts 1st i think that's a really good step because putting the facts 1st and how you tackle false information is very important and what that will do is and what they're trying to roll out even more is putting labels underneath posts that are talking about climate change and then gearing them towards this new web site that is all

legitimate scientific information but it's not just facebook and i want to show just another example here because this particular op it's very difficult to discern where fake news is spreading and that's what's up because it's close you can't actually see what's happening a lot up there messages you probably have like i have some relatives who share messages really quickly and many of those best is what false information and so what one did and how been doing is if the messages spread really really fast so a big sporting going on they will try and slow down that day and the last corner there you can see 2 arrows under the example roy ronald being forward at that can show you if something is important numerous times now that was put under covert 19 due to cope with 19 but it's trying to do that to spread to stop the spread of all the false information out there but there's one thing i want to show you is well that's what i'm going to just switch into at this particular. image to show you.

tick tock so tick tock is where many conspiracy theories tend to go viral and i looked up the word climate just before the show and want to talk was trying to push me for 2 or things like climate change is fake and conspiracy theories like climate control so the tech companies really do have more to do particularly this example they shouldn't be hearing loss toward these kind of false claims. i'm just thinking i'm looking at you and there is a discussion and there's a debate about the climate crisis about global warming if you were a q. rating. right now what would you be saying not be a pig to lie that you would set people straight so that's a very it is a low right place and not the wrong place. well you mentioned earlier to me the truth sandwich the idea of a true sandwich we have to be careful with always this information stuff of course it's important to rabbit out of facebook and talk in the others but let's not

forget that most people the overwhelming majority of people over 75 percent worldwide understand that climate change is real it's manmade serious and we need to do something about it so one tactic is to not go 'd to the 'd liars more power than they really have baiji in that attention don't pay attention to them and when you talk about the disinformation you put in a truth sandwich so you start with the truth right the truth is that climate change is man made serious 'd 'd the sandwich part is 'd that there's a lot of deniers out there including your companies who are trying to tell you different and then the final piece of bread is that the statement that all the science in the world it all is scientifically tad amazing around the world 99.9 percent of scientists agree that this is real thank you so much mark. thank you for taking part in our climate.

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