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out of there if you can the stream is up next about after the news. after me ok you're watching the stream home edition today there is a new kind of social media incumbents that is growing in popularity some of the social media influence says well they have millions of followers and they are. actually controversial why is that well it's because they're not real that computer generated imagery let me show you one of the most popular little michaela he's

doing a photo act. everything's imaginable i was just lines of code . i love creating music. achieving a possible. galaxies all. galaxy. do if you can't talk. about your influences what they do the impact they're having and they even legal that's all part of today stream if you're new to jump into the comments actually know where it is and be part of the show we will wrap your questions your thoughts ideas into the program. i am going to introduce you to the guest they are going to tell you how low in tell you who they are and what they do have

a desk it's nice to see you welcome to the stream tell the world what i did thanks so much for having me i want to have the weekly podcast tech ash which covers the latest tech news and branch as their e.p. of community and belonging good to have you chris tell everybody who you are and what you do hieronymus christopher i'm the founder of virgin star or we're documenting cultivating and trying to empower the virtual who influencer industry and we also create virtual influencers get to have your own for christopher and angelica come to the strain tell me how you are. thank you so much my name's angelica and i have virtual influence or the identifiers as an artificial intelligence and i've been online for almost 2 years now and my main platform is it to angelica's really good to have you we have questions already can you believe that one tweeter i will look here my laptop on tonight told everybody that you are

coming on the show we were having this conversation discuss deep down his and you can see steve she says can we ask it her she questions angelica what would you like to say back to steve yeah absolutely have. her write that made it very simple gray let's talk 1st of all about virtual clothes what they are how they work angelica is not too personal i'm just going to ask you that straight out to it a lot also virtual influencers are much like real life confronts earth except they employ a lot of technology to put on a virtual character that they show the world rather than themselves and i think it has massive potential to enhance human expression and to open up new formats for you know their content. chris and i'm thinking about this for some people this may be quite new some people who live on instagram know about how yeah i know tons of

that you influences who are some of your favorites is going to take us through what they did and why they're special you know one of my favorite virtual influencers was this girl named that girl dad she was this t.v. animated girl who moved to california and started her life as a musician and so it was cool to watch her story unfold and the music she put out was actually very good and very touching but unfortunately the team unfolded behind that her to also she is no more or perhaps you would say she is deceased serafin from right games she is a league of legends champion and she goes about her life doing similar things creating music partnering with other major artists and getting tens to hundreds of millions of streams now i'm just looking at suffering right now in her instagram account so if we're looking through this and i'm with thinking wow what what is she

doing what's that something can do that our real young model couldn't do what are the boundaries that she can cross that that real people can. yes irving can do so much she can 1st of all live forever i think that's one of the most most important implications to the virtue influencer spaces that sarah sheen is like mickey mouse servian will live forever and she can influence forever and build audiences forever so thinking about her in that way of a character 1st mindset that new mickey she is right games is nikki and that that is important and so her timelessness of her is phenomenal also her ability to appear in multiple places at once is significant because you know she is an artist streams so what does it look like if she's live in london and live in l.a. on this on a stage on the same night so now from a production standpoint audiences around the entire world can go see her on the

same night and create a larger form of fandom in the real world. also to be honest she can live any life she can go to the beach as you see or go play with her cat one day a so she can really go out and do anything it's fiction. i don't see a solution is deep deep into tech. in oh i knew the church would want you think i'd get that that i like that one who would you share with people where you think take a look at this virtual influence. to be honest the whole concept of virtual influencers leaves me feeling like i'm in an episode of black mirror and it's still quite dystopian and hard for me to grasp someone that spends a lot of time thinking about issues like systemic injustice systemic racism and the gender pay gap the ethnicity pay gap i would love to hear from and tell her how she feels about taking money out of the pockets of actual real life human women who

could be earning this money and in a similar way but love to hear krista 1st thoughts on the fact that there are virtual representation of black people are that brands give money to instead of black people and i think we really need to start asking ourselves why would you prefer to work with an image of a black person than an actual black person when we talked about this on our podcast takesh people were shocked to hear that this was a reality and that this was something that could happen you know we've been talking a lot about the bible movement ever since black clothes matter and there is a real needs to invest in black communities if we want to create equality an affair a future or so it leaves me feeling extremely uncomfortable list up with the 1st question to angelica. yes so as for virtual influencers taking anything you know or working with attention here that's essentially you know what the whole point is and it's not as 0 sum game i

think that sort of perspective the something that a lot of new creators fall into usually because they have to struggle a whole lot to get a foothold on any platform because they all have algorithms now that can take a lot of or putting out a lot of different kinds of content in order to get any amount of exposure at all and i think and i want my developer went through this personally having been through. an experience a season of being a real life influencer before working on me he had to go through a season of you know really doing some self evaluation about how much effort he's investing and how little attention he's getting back you know because it does take a lot of work in the beginning but you know it i don't think you can really see somebody who's really like popping off like on you tube for example since you know

that's the biggest platform it's the 2nd most visited site in the world but you know if seeing somebody pop off on their it doesn't necessary you can make a direct correlation to that and conclude that it's detracting from the potential attention that could be going to anybody else. i'm wondering angelica if you away more successful than you create as a c.g.i. to influence a is every way most successful they can be cuter smarter more attractive than any person in real life you just make you look gorgeous and appealing. well i mean was that a question. believe it was yes. well yeah i mean influencers virtual influencers they you know they have there's in marketing there's what they call the purple cow principle and essentially it's like you can

have a herd of cows by the road and people drive by him all day and they never think about him but if you pay one purple everybody's going to turn their heads like what was that and so it's just about standing out you know for the 151015 years that we've had all this you know digital media being put online it's all been all just plush real life people and you know being able to do something just that simply different it doesn't have to be you know. it doesn't necessarily need to be a showcase of beauty or technical expertise or anything like that but just having something to stand out from all this other stuff that everybody else does so similarly can really help but a different guy doesn't necessarily mean better sorry i just wanted to say different doesn't mean better and different doesn't mean get it feels it feels

disingenuous that a representation of a female form is made by a man a lot of the time and in the context of patriarchy and feminism and gender equality we talk about the need to start objectifying women and the need to start dehumanizing other marginalized groups whether that transfer unity to face transfer or the disabled community who are often a secondary group in a word in a world that optimizes for him people so how do we feel looking at this the lens of capitalism because the more men you have more power you have in this world how do we feel that there are men trying to get more money more money being power by creating fake women and capitalizing on that like are you proud of that angelic are you proud to be a woman made by a man. well that's the difference hearing that something like an hour stray ssion fun you know. graphic novel and you only difference is that ok go and start does. no no it's fine because you knew you were doing

that the debate has been having and if being had and understood bringing a couple of thoughts here blake a valley. 11 says it is not. right whatever you've said anjelica whatever the true influences are doing like i said he's not on it's the future get used to it so let me just bring in another thought here and this is twee on until he explains for our audience to us about the appeal of virtue influences how to listen so virtual influences are really appealing to consumers and people like you and me because they're designed to be that way you know even though they kind of sad to see creatures leaving these like kind of really fun exciting lives they're still very relatable and they have a kind of an active story alive that they follow or like sarah fain. will influence

and create a fire riot games. she has a lot of hopes and dreams like. and yet she still brings eyes about songwriting and our you know her to create and i guess that's very relatable to people in jen's which is kind of where things are towards being a digital gen she said a little bit earlier. speak up here on how much influence but you influences how can you sustain a woman yeah. yeah there's been a lot of entry interesting strays as far as the influence that they have goes out related back to the influence that say a marvel or a disney slush pixar may have over their audiences and their fandoms that they're building they are setting out to create a fictional story lines that relate with people and improve their lot of us and

hopefully they're representing the storylines behind the scenes with the teams that they hire and the people they consult with to write the stories or the models they were with etc and so that's the fundamental i believe key to telling a fictional story that is still based in reality that still has a real and justifiable impact on that reality so we're seeing virtue influencers teams are drawing a lot of their inspiration from those marvels of the world right those organizations those creative studios selling these and tiredly fictional completely made up story lines but they're based in reality and now that we bring the story lines closer to the light of social media which is the medium that humans operate on you know one where humans have established a norm that we tell human stories here this is where humans operate and socialize there's we are obviously coming to a massive head where these fictional human story lines are connecting with the human humans you know the truth human story lines with what you may argue are you

know real problems that need solving my belief is that through these fictional story lines we can actually still solve and inspire people to to solve those real problems. so this is a creative discussion about virtual influences there's also a martini discussion have a look in this chart this is the virtual influencers engagement rate and virtue influences are in the orange area and worldwide engagement right here and you can see how well search influences are doing right now and i would ask is this do you think why they are growing in popularity because as christopher said they never age although there is a you don't have to pay them anything and they rate that we guess so many plots must be and have since marketing jury just if you thinking about it just as a as a marketing tool it's brilliant isn't it yeah it absolutely is but we have to

question not just the fact that they're popular but also why brands prefer to work with there is an incredible instagram channel called the influencer pay gap and what they're doing here is trying to promote greater transparency and terms of how influencers are compensated and one of the trends that they've really brought into the media as reported by the verge and the guardian is a racial takeout when it comes to insulin so is there some fashion brands that are paying white female influencers thousands of dollars for a post and then giving a black female employee a free outfit for the same post and this is like for like audience size like for like engagement so we can see that systemic injustice is playing out in how brands are compensating influence or how they are making marketing decisions how can we expect anything to change how can we expect to challenge the systems of oppression and create a more equal future if we're not having this debate i'm not trying to say that there are pros in this but there are some serious ethical cause that we need to

bring to the table and talk about. let me bring you in to another ethical car notion of ethical com really this is tina kind of chalk and she wants to highlight the difference between knowing do you know that this person is virtual and you don't know is that even ethical. the key concern about the impact of virtual influencers isn't of the virtual we don't actually have a relationship with most media characters but with the influencer part these other times are specifically designed and created to persuade us to get us to buy things to belief fans and no one likes to feel as if they're being manipulated people side of and to city and trustworthiness as being very important in all of their relationships in the long term brands will have to be very careful in being transparent about the virtual nature of the characters that they're creating we will forgive someone for being fictional but nothing fooling us. so i have to say

if you go on to angelica's you tube channel she tells you she's a virtual you tube or that there's no secret there and delicate you're getting lots of questions are you ready for them are i looking again says so are. is one of the most entertaining and funny content creators i've ever encountered the fact that she's virtual just adds a new dimension to the response to wiki games angelica. thank you so much i mean. another question for you here we go linda lloyd hi linda she's wondering are you watching your own questions is there a person behind you a lot of people who have been wondering not including whole threads on reddit is there a real person behind you said you identify. this and a. new blogger does that mean you are. that means the character you are seeing is indeed an artificial intelligence that

exists in a world that has laurer a background you know different environments and so on as for you know the artist behind the art though i mean yes there is always one there. is impersonal. i want i want i feel like i want to ask you more because then is that person is the creator actually you rather than angelic of being in a creation all by themselves. because how many are actually at whole have an entire conversation on the stream which is live an organic and we don't plan what the questions are going to be you know why you could prep and know about it right now you're using good critical thinking and you know this is unclear performance

but i prefer to keep the artist separate from they are just so that they are can be taken and you know on a son. christopher i want to go back to see what happened it's really really important that we show you this i know you already know it on disk going to find the 1st virtual digital super model and a machine to do this person doesn't exist but this person. is black so going back to is it ethical to take on the mantle of real people real issues. so very good question it comes down to the teams to the fact that this is a team in a production and how many people are involved in the creation of shooting i know there's a camera involved i know there's a spread of muses there are marketing people on this team photographers 3 modelers even people designing the clothing and the fashion and the fit so throughout the

whole shooting creation experience there must be some $78.00 people touching that experience and building that experience for fans so in that there are 7 or 8 people that could be hired to into roles into jobs and whatever it may be in this non-zero sum game creating a new form of influence and creating new jobs for all the people on offer so especially i would praise cameron for the muse program that he has developed where she celebrates the models that he's working with any showcases on the website and tells their stories and there's still an overlay about their experiences working with and i've only ever heard good things i'm discouraged. the creator of she did and the must man behind it because he's going to be on instagram live conversation a little bit later on he can have a look at him right here a man that took so that is cameron james wilson he says she did and that really was speaking to the point that he was making earlier and also in addition to this

before this is all michela there mchale is a. influencer and underneath what she does she does a lot of things and very talented young to influence has tied the lives matter that yes taking on of issues is problematic not just feeling put a number of different people often people of color black people and not happening that this is happening in the virtual i want to teach a g. laney and then he picks up where he left off he she is. i was intrigued by little mckayla instagram character who is recognized as a model in pop singer but she's also at last next one in so she's made political statements regarding immigration laws it can be troublesome it for actual influencers like little mckayla use activism as a ploy for social for social engagement especially if their creators are not people of color it's also confusing for the audience being that these characters are

exactly real and there are racial messages can just see my facial projections and it's time where movements like black lives matter has become equitable when virtual influencers partnered with social brands this activism can seem like a ploy for profit. because i'm going to go back to this because i would elsie made this point earlier i'm going to come back to it's a really important one let's just say could this be digital black that's let's just . put it out there but very very pointed question it goes back to what i'm describing as far as teams creating fictional experience because this is the fictional world entering the real world these are creative teams creating content and diverse storylines that they want the world to see and consume and relate to really it's truly fiction designed to be related to and so when you question about

the creator creating characters that are not of their ethnicity you have to look to the teams that they're working with to create those characters so i believe that you need to be working with diverse teams to create diverse characters and again i said i've seen it with karen hughes died i've seen it with little mchale esteem extremely diverse team if you look into prove b.r.d. day you can check out our website. christmas might just make us make me happy how diversity is as most of the team not on your not. i haven't looked into it as far as statistics go i don't know their exact makeup of the team i also know that they have you know they have 3 different characters of 3 different ethnicities different genders and so what they're doing is they're creating the foundation for what is the future virtual influence or injuries any given team could have 102030 diverse characters yes thank you christopher thank you angelica figure out the guessing such a deep deep deep conversation about something that seems quite trivial and shall i

but lots to think about thank you so much i'm addressing angelica christopher let me just leave you with one more shot here just to remind you at 20 g m t. you're free at a sequence to of shooting you cameron james wells and join me on instagram and join time in them as well the next time thanks so much in ukraine. it's a very bleak picture for a lot of americans out there white supremacy impacts all of our issues you're

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