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of steve clements and i have a couple of questions have relations between russia and the united states reached real rock bottom can they improve or will things get even worse let's get to the bottom line. u.s. president joe biden openly says he believes his russian counterpart president vladimir putin is a soulless killer but biden putin relationship is less of a love fest compared to what donald trump and putin had but that doesn't mean biden putin won't be working together both sides are now testing each other's red lines ukraine is one of those contests but so too is cyberspace after washington determined that the russian government was behind
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a huge hacking of its agencies that started in 2019 known as the solar winds hack the bite into ministration sanction dozens of organizations and individuals in russia and kicked out 10 russian diplomats russian responded by telling the u.s. ambassador in moscow there's probably a good idea for him to take a vacation in america for a while tit for tat knuckle rapping aside biden has invited putin to a face to face personal summit meeting in a 3rd country sometime this summer to reset relations but in the era of biden and the ongoing story of lattimer putin what kind of cooperation. well competition is normal for these 2 countries today we're talking with someone who's been one of the keenest observers of russia u.s. relations for decades dimitri simes is an author and professor on soviet and russian studies and an expert in geo strategic affairs he's met with putin and he said biased american presidents on relations with each other and he's the president and c.e.o. of the center for the national interest and publisher of the foreign policy focus journal the national interest dimitri simes it's great to have you on the show
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today let me just ask you as we have now moved into an inflection point politically at least in the united states and as both countries are sort of trying to figure out how to manage their equities their interests i know you have a very realist lens of how to get that right what do you think is most important right now for joe biden to try and accomplish with lattimer putin. things if as soon as the most important. american ship going to go into this. new way would look at it can you google. the simple principle. to use it to accomplish. better allies whoa. or. to put it in there. for good to go nuclear weapons well then you're going to design so it's quite
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a challenge for them to write about them you know one of the things you wrote recently in the national interest is the united states had to decide whether it wanted to be a hedge a monic democratic empire that prevented anyone else from basically having a say in the world or whether it had to recognize its constraints live within those and allow other nations to do that where do you think the u.s. is going right now with that calculation. well i thought it was. talking about of the united states not just being the number one but creative being that india. has if you will in the free world is supposed to diminish that is to do with present this completion with russia as an end of logical struggle it's almost like he's did it because it best itself but if we're stuck in the ball of
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a yellow 'd trickle struggle. and the imminent victory or was the soviet union is in need of socialism there's no way talking about of 'd the united states being needed to a democracy is and again being bowing to succeed but if you look not a pathetic but of what is it in a cup an ink you can see that the united states and russia a quite suspicious of for each other that the united states and russia over history of different into this and very different venues but there at the same time well what's nations today allies you can go whoa is not a sensible option the brinksmanship is too dangerous and accordingly it is important to day identify it is a bit 8 foot no laws it isn't because we need to manage difference as you know one of the things that i've been trying to understand dimitri is how russians inside
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russia look at their leadership look at their choices look at what's happened with ukraine look at what's happening with alexina vonnie and i and i and i think it's fair to say that you know domestic support for vida mir putin's actions in russia is rather high and a lot of us looking are just very surprised by that and i know you've been to russia recently what is your sense of putin's popularity in putin's choices are they rooted in domestic support in russia. wealth has told you this book because could you have declined it because the client was actually leaving spenders because of the client or was it arson difficulty in getting was a pun better mic and because of the client the way is ready for you for him this is success is huge increase in theaters. it's going to decline in combat isn't always being debated right let's say in 2014 when there are fans to go to
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a career in the dead time which is popular idea was 83 percent while not only are slow but to still 60 it took that ascendant. we job is leaders cut and you may ask how can we trust. these opinion polls well i will tell you i am quite good and they do love the pope which belongs to the petition there are can go home and come see it is a sporting good thing use ation a foreign agent and i think most russian the position to do is take nobody bullets very seriously so what can is sufficiently local at holme not to do a war it abode that mystics the war in his get into with the united states and they don't look up to say is it do more us british or zoom or us is lecture the great tip would you support this because the more good your freshens it when those who
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are white that means you who is the wall that you would consider to shoot their attitude you would get people into dog like you and for him paul was still the most told what to do let's listen to a clip of president biden and some of his early comments on dealing with russia the united states is not looking to kick off a cycle of x. and skull ation and conflict with russia we want a stable predictable relationship and russia continues interfere with our democracy i'm prepared to take further actions to respond dimitri do you think that message from president biden is one that is welcomed in moscow and in the kremlin or is it one that is saying we're going to have a rocky relationship how do you think of a or hearing the present night state. as you know i will host a bloody difficult talk show than most goal which is called the great game. and lust says the interview can spread
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a 2nd period need to bespoke who is also a deputy chief of the presidential administration and i think about us could be a school of the day and a phone conversation of. what would be the one thing he sings he believes is the biden administration should know about production by dish and what would the lower russia duck said as a supplement was president biden was the us president has recently proposed and there was still no response from clinton and bischoff said he sought for a 2nd people as well of. president biden said that he is interested in the would be in the scottish and and got a can with the russian way disposable but the sense of problem ace the 2 and then the blended amused relation makes as statement leave it as it is immediately bought up but do we still will desist or are we would force russia to pay
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a price if they don't full well i meet them guns for almost the stand point is it is not a way to talk with our fear and the problem is indeed is that. being tough will with russia to do it could mean many popularly into the united states that mystically but it doesn't make which is most flexible quite the contrary few things are great bright or never started that in god the foreign press and helps him get mr pretty so often we can pretty president biden but being inflexible rhetorical is because being put in that mystically when you talk about respect and the and that and the posture that america should take in dealing. with a powerful russia i'm interested in this this because not something is often discussed do you think if the u.s. were to become more self aware of some of that that you would find
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a more. workable pliable you know russian participation in trying to solve some of these problems say in ukraine with crimea. well steve being publicly that our show is over this remote openness is right you always do negotiate from a position of strength if you have strengths and but big it is the us agenda is sufficiently and vicious the good doctor here on the good used to put huge is united states would not be strong would be strong economically it would be strong condemned so domestic unity strong contempt of climate on the lenses and of course their own limited at it having said that if you just throw them in self-confidence you don't need to put your opponents don't. demonstrate to them your strengths you demonstrate to them you will force of conviction but then you do member this is
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a film dignity and they may be but people who may feel the did wrong as a devoted disagreeable but at the same time if we did not follow up to intimidate them we need to need to sheet 2 is them and if you negotiate with somebody who can do them down and insulting the did this is a good motivator good sink to do i don't need billy-o. or want to break them was tough as nails in union was a summit union i have the will physical instance when reagan was president had taken sort of it lead to this and it was no up again because he'll a soft on communism but because you want to do what is else there are others and that means to grandstand and what are russia's option strategically it does it does russia really have an option of embedding itself more closely with china i know it has has troops in an alliance with syria it has troops in libya what are the
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elements with iran perhaps that he kept giving iran sort of a sideways move in dealing with the us and things that it was party to like the j c p a way one of the elem. it's of the sort of great you know chess board out there it would give russia strategic depth and options that would help maneuver around the united states well the russian will consider that a god intends to building strong go lenses and look at the good good and. i would say again to my interview last week was specific to me to biscoe and then the rest is that maybe question to him and they said that russia has good relations with a number of what can come to this studying of course with china but i'm sure doesn't seem to be a little ice us allies say expanding production diplomats as a sign of stated that it was the united states and was a czech republic not a single country is expanding i made it can all european diplomats to support the
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russia invest is it disability. in china would become a life if this objected to strong guy made a compression and then look at the ready interesting response. instead of saying well of great friends who is china and. that asian is only getting stronger every day and going to result in a form only did that alliance instead means depends cliff said. the next states and russia could have a different concept of full lenses in the russian case a license is to come people over bus companies don't contribute to this as you get it in perspective then nope didn't get engaged in you would deals and what i'm not looking for formal security to get rangelands was a now the company is not you have to understand that this is. a meaningful
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statement not because i used to set it up to complete the whole it but because it didn't you kate. more school does not expect an alliance with the anytime soon the jane use of that arsons could seem a little grievances against the united states they want to with the glow closely to give the but russia does not want to go to war when we get it going from patient 0 was a neg state because 'd of china and the same is separate the rule was that cheney and his visit onion former florida means the judge very. recently has shed tears but it's better for america and he complained the film game and that he did not want to win to promote new agreement nuclear disarmament agreement do we say you should put it so that russia does not strong alliances like the united states
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in building such alliances is not them to but i do think that if. 'd the united states a no careful with couldn't create some kind of talk then put it out arrangements between china and russia which would move because right in the lens but you know there was no lens good to him he had led stun but arrangement of this book on his mate could it was a to stop well what do we have to do but it careful nobody believes this you patient in the nuclear age you know dmitri a lot of people frame russia as a you know moderate or even a small economy they may look at it as an oil and gas superpower but i know that russia has the ability to destroy the united states and has more deployed nuclear warheads in any other nation on earth and i think it's something that's forgotten but another element of power out in the world exists in what nations can do and
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muster in the cyber world and we've had a lot of debate in this country about what russia has done meddling in the elections and i'm just sort of interested in your insights into this new arena. information dissin from ation which which as you've written russia has particular expertise in but in this new world of cyber does this give russia another dimension of power that much of the world is underestimating. let's give fest i would not underestimate the russian economy quot off a deaf cause not in the same way he who is the united states and. not a total couldn't said that if you look at the pictures you can follow then numbers 6 and 2 of those then number 2 in europe just off the gentleman here i cannot mean clearly i would say a very troubled country in minya dispense but this 2 major economic presence now if
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you look at the russian made it to budget. official feeders than just something going to the range of 7 could be dem voters i don't seem to daniel would you take that seriously if you are in a little and them so pictures in poems this is a much more meaningful feel good there are and we get to budget isn't very ancient over 141 continent 50 beat and all of us this a vague 80 c.d.'s number of particular for a country where 'd. the men power is much cheaper than in the united states where they don't spend same money all on pensions for the veterans in the united states in terms of siva difficult for me to judge him not to be an expert in that didn't official and in the kremlin is zim said doing good or well that jam on the world leader is in that bed of course it is and i'll bet on
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a different being in that mania over to mr rushton then a scientist i am a great king and you can find them in this you can but it and can do for him. and sama seem to fix sent at close to muffle it to stuff ice to say whoa way again i don't know. how to compare them with the united states humans have considered it because i don't but they do have capabilities which can be of any meaningful it is the. she has made it confront patients and they're doing things that they knew would you want to experiment in that area but it could be because you never know when cyber warfare going to lead to an actual wolf and when we did confront patients do you think sort of i'm on the strategic class in washington that nuclear weapons and their prevalence have become kind of you know but knol that people don't think about them anymore because i am interested in how little folks think about the nuclear possibilities in
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a negative encounter with russia. i think you're absolutely right it's stuff that i think anybody has obama administration when president obama could not believe the danube would be in his right mind would sink a boat using nuclear weapons in a new kind of confrontation well of course there are invited to go up there and. says about it clear that if mother is in danger it would have been said nope it was a nuclear weapons is it would concede to you can you clinton. said what a graphic could it if we could we should they shouldn't when there are isn't danger or when there are way to destroy it well of course once the world was ok russia maybe if you do it to us do well to didn't even exist you said it all because for the same is that a customer could do what they think and no amount of throws them to flip can.
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heal up roach oil fields of to say that. he has a somewhat important but their own in terms of forward you can you can google here of course with the ball enough to the wall but. his prevalence of the incident bridges work no other than time it was cold letting the beauty of the blue cape boat emitted people died and let me interrupt and monk as it was young brother so i. hope we can pursue billet there for a major wall this is a current affair how it. was his approach to major confrontation was the united states is in my view. but is it a little the people if it were younger. in your view experience in the world would do much more quietly as the himself said just you all kinds of we did it it
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did asians against what was a beauty and if they made a computer gemini write what you mean is not a threat what can is that our nation that is but he is a brother much former intelligence officer he is not like you know a couple that in general who are i'm sort of too much forward no matter what but it's such people in there are. much more what i would say a sedative less corpus of approach. than we did that elation for the united states let me just ask you finally dimitri president biden has made an offer to president putin to meet him sometime this summer for a one on one personal summit i've read in russia in the russian press that they don't want a repeat of helsinki in 2018 they don't want a do nothing summit that ends up looking like a clown show basically they want something serious if you were helped to identify
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the most important elements of an agenda that these 2 leaders would find worth their equity sit home what would those be what would you put on the table to advise president biden as a way of saying here is a way to make this more serious than not in terms of bringing vladimir putin into a consequential dialogue. well climate change is why i made a rush in the united states couple of them come on i see nuclear proliferation including you hope is the case of north korea again there is considerable agreement and that i would say crisis management strategic stability where actually i think. one of the best efforts of collaboration between 0 net and states and thereafter is that innovation should be doing to me to that is there was to disagree there was do concede to each other i will say but they do know color to work together and to
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manage to do. beyond that with a one great deal why didn't glenn and this is ukraine who need states but he's going to undermine because of the hope that ukraine as. a defunct their ally and look at the situation between russia and ukraine as a black and white wizard in the united states accepting that ukraine is a victim of aggression russia and the rest and they basically adopted to you. that ukraine if you wish is the biggest i'm against for the russian aggression in the order for the russian ukraine isn't exist then show be sure they do believe that do it was immediate that it wouldn't in ukraine beckon to sell isn't 14 they don't need that it could happen to his considerable assistance from the united
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states and only after that there are good to go of crimea and support into separatists it's very difficult to have any agreement on ukraine if news aside is willing to compromise and understand that this shit dish and is a road that can play well dimitri simes president c.e.o. of the center for the national interest i really appreciate your candid thoughts thank you for joining us today thank you very much so what's the bottom line everything that washington doesn't like about russia is exactly what makes putin more popular invading ukraine an annex in crimea well that's super popular in russia doing away with term limits and basically keeping putin as president for life or at least the next 15 years. that's super popular in russia even trying to kill his critical lexan of only throwing him in jail half of russians say it's his own fault for criticizing putin and don't forget all opinion polls in russia say that folks there see the united states as their number one enemy so putin stays
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popular as long as he finds new ways to poke america whether by hacking or by social media campaigns to mess with american society what incentive does he have to play nice with biden so let's keep it real as my guest today would have it america is going to have to figure out a way to live in cold peace with moscow warmer than the days of the cold war but not warm and friendly and that's the bottom line. around one percent of. the is consumed by data centers many of which provide for
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