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a lot of americans out there white supremacy impacts all of our patients you're putting more money into the hands of someone 1st taking money out of the hands of other workers their own goes to their camp it becomes a us versus them this is the deal about constraining your nuclear program the bottom line the big questions on out is there. i am pretty ok you're watching the stream home edition today. a new kind of social media including studies growing in popularity some of the social media influences well they have millions of followers and they are. usually controversial why is that oh it's because they're not real they computer generated imagery let me show you one of the most popular needle he's doing this.

everything seemed magine about what i was just going to the code. i love creating music. achieving a possible. that's a big part of galaxies all about the. galaxy. do it you can't. virtual influences what they do the impact they're having and they even legal that's all part of today stream if you're new to jump into the comments actually know where it is and be part of the show we will wrap your questions your thoughts ideas into the program. i am going to introduce you to the guest they are going to tell you hello and tell you who they are what they do have a desk it's nice to see you welcome to the stream tell the world what you did thanks so much for having me i am one half of the weekly podcast tech ash which

covers the latest tech news and brand watch as they repeat of community and belonging good to have you chris tell everybody who you are and what you do. have a name is christopher i'm the founder of virgins are or were documenting cult bearing and trying to empower the virtual who influencer industry and we also create virtual influencers good to have in your own for christopher and anjelica hokum to the strain television. thank you so much my name's angelica virgil influencer the identifiers as an artificial intelligence and i've been online for almost 2 years now and my main platform is e to. angelica's really good to have you we have questions already can you believe that one tweeter have a look here my laptop until i told everybody that you were coming on the show we were having this conversation is going to steep down his and you can see steve she says can we ask it her see question angelica what would she like to say back

to steve yeah absolutely have. i right that minute if barry sims gray let's talk a festival about virtue of those what they are how they work angelica it's not too personal i'm just going to ask you that straight out great not also virtual influencers are much like real life confronts earth except they employ a lot of technology to put on a virtual character that they show the world rather than themselves and i think it has massive potential to enhance human expression and to open up new formats for you know their content. christopher and i'm thinking about this for some people this may be quite new some people who live on instagram when i got here i have i done tons of that you influences who are some of your favorites is going to take us through what they did and why they're special you know one of my favorite hershel

influencers was this girl named that girl dad she was this t.v. animated girl who moved to california and started her life as a musician and so it was cool to watch her story unfold and the music shoot out was actually very good and very touching but unfortunately the team unfolded behind that her to also she is no more or perhaps you would say she is deceased serafin from right games she is a league of legends champion and she goes about her life doing so many things creating music partnering with other major artists and getting tens to hundreds of millions of streams now. i'm just looking at something right now on her instagram account so if we're looking through this and i'm with thinking wow what what is she doing least that something can do that oh real young little couldn't it what are the boundaries that she can cross that that real people can. yes every can

do so much she can 1st of all live forever i think that's one of the modes most important implications to the virtue influencer space is that sarah sheen is like mickey mouse servian will live forever and she can influence forever and build audiences forever so thinking about her in that way of a character 1st mindset that new mickey she is right games is nikki and that that is important and so her timelessness of her is phenomenal also her ability to appear in multiple places at once is significant because you know she is an artist streams so what does it look like if she's live in london and live in l.a. on this on a stage on the same night so now from a production standpoint audiences around the entire world can go see her on the same night and create a larger form of fandom in the real world. also to be honest she can live any life

she can go to the beach as you see or go play with her count one day a so she can really go out and do anything that it's fiction. i don't see a solution is deep deep into tech. in oh i need these virtual ones that you think i get that that's what i like the one who would you share with people where you think take a look at this virtual influence or. to be honest the whole concept of virtual influencers leaves me feeling like i'm in an episode of black mirror and still play dystopian and hard for me to grasp someone that spends a lot of time thinking about issues like systemic injustice systemic racism and the gender pay gap the ethnicity pay gap i would love to hear from and tell her how she feels about taking money out of the pockets of actual real life human women who could be earning this money and in a similar way love to hear krista 1st thoughts on the fact that there are virtual

representation of black people are that brands give money to instead of black people and i think we really need to start asking ourselves why would you prefer to work with an image of a black person than an actual black person when we talked about this on our podcast takesh people were shocked to hear that this was a reality and that this was something that could happen you know we've been talking a lot about that by glass movement ever since black clothes matter and there is a real needs to invest in black communities if we want to create equality an affair a future or so it leaves me feeling extremely uncomfortable list that was your 1st question to angelica. yes so as for virtual influencers taking anything you know or working with attention here that's essentially you know what the whole point is and it's not as 0 sum game i think that sort of perspective the something that a lot of new creators fall into usually because they have to struggle

a whole lot to get a foothold on any platform because they all have algorithms now that can take a lot of or putting out a lot of different kinds of content in order to get any amount of exposure at all and i think and i want my developer went through this personally having been through. an experience a season of being a real life influencer before working on me he had to go through a season of you know really doing some self evaluation about how much effort he's investing and how little attention he's getting back you know because it does take a lot of work in the beginning but you know it i don't think you can really see somebody who's really like popping off like on you tube for example sense you know that's the biggest platform it's the 2nd most visited site in the world but you know if seeing somebody pop off on their it doesn't necessary you can make

a direct correlation to that and conclude that it's detracting from that potential attention that could be going to anybody else. i'm wondering angelica if you away more successful than you create as a c.g.i. to influence a is every way most successful they can be cuter smarter more attractive than any person in real life you just make you look gorgeous and appealing. well i mean was that a question. believe it was yes. well yeah i mean influencers virtual influencers they you know they have there's a marketing there's what they call the purple cow principle and essentially it's like you can have a herd of cows by the road and people drive by and all day and never think about

him but if you pay one purple everybody's going to turn their heads like what was that and so it's just about standing out you know for the 151015 years that we've had all this you know digital media being put online it's all been all just flesh and blood real life people and you know being able to do something just that simply different it doesn't have to be you know. it doesn't necessarily need to be a showcase of beauty or technical expertise or anything like that but just having something to stand out from all this other stuff that everybody else does so similarly can really help. but different guy doesn't necessarily mean better sorry i just wanted to say different doesn't mean better and different doesn't mean it feels it feels disingenuous that a representation of a female form is made by a man a lot of the time and in the context of patriarchy and feminism and gender equality

we talk about the need to stop objectifying women and the need to start dehumanizing other marginalized groups whether that transfer unity to face transfer or the disabled community who are often a secondary group in a word in a world that optimizes for able bodied people so how do we feel looking at this the lens of capitalism because the more men you have more power you have in this world how do we feel that there are men trying to get more money more money being power by creating fake women and capitalizing on that like are you proud of that and are you proud to be a woman made by a man well that's the difference wearing that something like an illustration fun you know. graphic novel. and you only difference is that. gods are does the i doubt it does you no no it's fine because you knew that the debate that has been having and if being had and unusual and you can bring in

a couple of thoughts here valley. 11 says it is not alt right whatever you say anjelica whatever that influences are doing but like i said it's not on it's the future get used to that so let me just bring in another thought here and this is to yawn into no one explains for our audience to us about the appeal of virtue influences how to listen. so virtual influences are really appealing to consumers and people like you and me because they're designed to be that way you know even though it's a cut of sand to see creatures leading these like kind of really fun exciting lives they're still very relatable and they have a kind of an active storyline that they follow or like sarah fain. will influence and create a fire riot games. she has a lot of hopes and dreams like going to the city and yet she's still getting his

ideas about songwriting and you know her billet to create and i guess that's very relatable to people in jen's a which is kind of where things are towards being the digital generation she said a little bit earlier. speaking up here on how much influence to influences how can you win yeah. yeah there's been a lot of entry interesting strays as far as the influence that they have goes out related back to the influence that say a marvel or a disney slush pixar may have over their audiences and their fandoms that they're building they are setting out to create a fictional story lines that relate with people and improve their lot of us and hopefully they're representing the storylines behind the scenes with the teams that they hire and the people they consult with to write the stories or the models they

work with etc so that's the fundamental i believe key to telling a fictional story that is still based in reality that still has a real and justifiable impact on that reality so we're seeing virtue influencers teams are drawing a lot of their inspiration from those marvels of the world right those organizations those creative studios selling these and tiredly fictional completely made up story lines but they're based in reality and now that we bring the story lines closer to the light of social media which is the medium that humans operate on you know one where humans have established a norm that we tell human stories here this is where humans operate and socialize there's we are obviously coming to a massive head where these fictional human story lines are connecting with the human humans you know the truth human story lines with what you may argue are you know real problems that need solving my belief is that through these fictional story lines we can actually still solve and inspire people to to solve those real

problems. so this is a creative discussion about virtual influences there's also a martini discussion have a look in this chart this is the virtue influencers engagement rate and virtue influencers are in the orange area and worldwide engagement right here and you can see how well search influences are doing right now and i would ask is this do you think why they are growing in popularity because as christopher said they never age although there is a you don't have to pay them anything and they rate that we guess so many plots must be and have since marketing injury just if you thinking about it just as a as a marketing tool it's brilliant isn't it yeah it absolutely is but we have to question not just the fact that they're popular but also why brands prefer to work

with there is an incredible instagram channel called the influencer pay gap and what they're doing here is trying to promote greater transparency and terms of how influencers are compensated and one of the trends that they've really brought into the media as reported by the verge and the guardian is a racial takeout when it comes to insulin so is there some fashion brands that are paying white female influencers thousands of dollars for a post and then giving a black female employee a free outfit for the same post and this is like for like audience size like for like engagement so we can see that systemic injustice is playing out in how brands are compensating influence or how they're making marketing decisions how can we expect anything to change how can we expect to challenge the systems of oppression and create a more equal future if we're not having this debate i'm not trying to say that there are pros in this but there are some serious ethical cause that we need to bring to the table and talk about. let me bring you in to another ethical car

notion of ethical com really this is tina kind of chalk and she wants to highlight the difference between knowing do you know that this person is virtual and you don't know is that even ethical. the key concern about the impact of virtual influencers isn't of the virtual we don't actually have a relationship with most media characters but with the influencer part these other times are specifically designed and created to persuade us to get us to buy things to belief ends and no one likes to feel as if they're being manipulated people side of them to city and trustworthiness as being very important in all of their relationships in the long term brands will have to be very careful in being transparent about the virtual nature of the characters that they're creating we will forgive someone for being fictional but nothing fooling us. so i have to say if you go on to angelica's you tube channel she tells you she's a virtual you tube or that there's no secret there and delicate you're getting lots

of questions are you ready for them are i looking again says sharon. is one of the most entertaining and funny content creators i've ever encountered the fact that she's virtual just adds a new dimension to the response to wiki games angelica thank you so much i mean. another question for you here we go linda lloyd hi linda she's wondering are you on what's in your own questions is there a person behind you a lot of people who have been wondering not including whole threads on reddit is there a real person behind you said you identify. as an a. new blogger does that mean you are. that means the character you are seeing is indeed an artificial intelligence that exists in a world that has a lord a background you know different environments and so on as for you know the artist

behind the art though i mean yes there is always one there. but i'm not. i what i want i feel like i want to ask you more because then is that person is the creator actually you rather than angelic of being in a creation all by themselves because how many are actually at whole have an entire conversation on the stream which is live and organic and we don't plan what the questions are going to be you know why you could prep and know about it right now you're using good critical thinking and you know this is unclear performance but i prefer to keep the artist separate from they are just so that they are can be taken and you know on its own. kristie i want to go back to some other to see what

happened it's really really important let me show you this i know you already know it on disk going to find the 1st virtual digital super model and a machine you do this person doesn't exist. but this person. is black so going back to is it ethical to take on the mantle of real people real issues. so very good question comes down to the teams to the fact that this is a team in a production and how many people are involved in the creation of shooting i know there's a camera involved i know there's a spread of muses there are marketing people on this team photographers 3 modelers even people designing the clothing and the fashion and the fit so throughout the whole shooting creation experience there must be some $78.00 people touching that experience and building that experience for fans so in that there are 7 or 8 people

that could be hired to into roles into jobs and whatever it may be in this non-zero sum game creating a new form of influence and creating new jobs for all the people on offer so especially i would praise cameron for the muse program that he has developed where she celebrates the models that he's working with any showcases on the website and tells their stories and there's still an overlay about their experiences working with and i've only ever heard good things i'm discouraged. the creator of she did and the must man behind it because he's going to be on instagram live conversation a little bit later on here we can have a look at him right here a man that took so that is cameron james wilson he says she did and that really was speaking to the point that he was making earlier and also in addition is this before this is all michela there mchale is a. influencer and underneath what she does she does

a lot of things very talented young to influence has tied the lives matter that yes taking on of issues is problematic not just feeling put a number of different people often people of color black people and not happening that this is happening in the virtual i want to teach a g. laney and then he picks up where he left off he she is. i was intrigued by little mckayla instagram character who is recognized as a model in pop singer but she's also at last next one in so she's made political statements regarding immigration laws it can be troublesome it for actual influencers like little mckayla use activism as a ploy for social for social engagement especially if their creators are not people of color it's also confusing for the audience being that these characters are exactly real and there are racial messages can just see my facial projections in

a time where movements like black lives matter has become equitable when virtual influencers partnered with social brands this activism can seem like a ploy for profit. because i'm going to go back to this because i would elsie made this point earlier i'm going to come back to it it's a really important one let's just say could this be digital black that's let's just . put it out there but very very pointed question it goes back to what i'm describing as far as teams creating fictional experience because this is the fictional world entering the real world these are creative teams creating content and diverse storylines that they want the world to see and consume and relate to really it's truly fiction designed to be related to and so when you question about the creator creating characters that are not of their ethnicity you have to look to the teams that they're working with to create those characters so i believe that

you need to be working with diverse teams to create diverse characters and again i said i've seen it with karen hughes died i've seen it with little mchale esteem extremely diverse team if you look into brood b.r.d. day you can check out our website. christmas-y. it just make us make me happy how diversity is as much the team knock on your heart . i haven't looked into it as far as statistics go i don't know their exact makeup of the team i also know that they have you know they have 3 different characters of 3 different ethnicities different genders and so what they're doing is they're creating the foundation for what is the future of virtual influence or injuries any given team could have 102030 diverse characters yes thank you christopher thank you angelica figure out the guessing such a deep deep deep conversation about something that seems quite trivial and shall i put lots to think about that he so much i'm addressing anjelica christopher let me

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