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a that's been arriving in india since it began to go on the 25th of april the hundreds of tons of aid has been allocated and has been dispatched and that this is an ongoing process now earlier this week a local investigation shows that 6 states including delhi where all of the international aid is arriving hadn't received any. now there are fears across the virus numbers in neighboring nepal are reaching similar levels to india it has $57.00 times more cases than it had a month ago the lockdown has been extended in the capital cap and do germany's chancellor angela merkel is pushing back against growing demands to suspend patience to cope with 19 vaccines the european union is expected to discuss the issue at a summit on friday the us canada and spain are among those supporting the plan but germany says the problems are down to production capacity limits and not peyton protections at least $25.00 people have been killed in
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a police operation targeting drug traffickers in the brazilian city of rio de janeiro human rights activists have called it a massacre accusing officers of carrying out executions britain's ruling conservative party has secured an election victory in an opposition labor stronghold the parliamentary seat of hartlepool england industrial northeast has voted conservative for the 1st time in its history not those days local elections are the 1st major test for prime minister boris johnson's government since 29. cattles for willis says no one is above the law following the arrest of the country's finance minister ali sharif mardy the qatar news agency says it's due to suspected misuse of public money and abuse of power he's been removed from his position pending a further investigation those were the headlines about good bore news in half an hour here on. until then it's the bottom line to stay with us. they traveled down thousands of columbus's to pick various. objects my work because
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it was exploitation in the forests of sweden when i went east investigates on the which is their. time steve clemons said i have a couple of questions have relations between russia and the united states reach real rock bottom can they improve or will things get even worse let's get to the bottom line. u.s. president joe biden openly says he believes his russian counterpart president vladimir putin is a soulless killer but biden putin relationship is less of a love fest compared to what donald trump and putin had but that doesn't mean biden and putin won't be working together both sides are now testing each other's red lines ukraine is one of those contests but so too is cyber space after washington determined that the russian government was behind a huge hacking of its agencies that started in 2019 known as the solar winds hack
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the bite into ministration sanction dozens of organizations and individuals in russia and kicked out 10 russian diplomats russia responded by telling the u.s. ambassador in moscow this probably a good idea for him to take a vacation in america for a while tit for tat knuckle rapping aside biden has invited putin to a face to face personal summit meeting in a 3rd country sometime this summer to reset relations but in the era of biden and the ongoing story of lattimer putin what kind of cooperation or competition is normal for these 2 countries today we're talking with someone who's been one of the keenest observers of russia u.s. relations for decades dimitri simes is an author and professor on soviet and russian studies and an expert in geo strategic affairs he's met with putin and he said buys the american presidents on relations with each other and he's the president and c.e.o. of the center for the national interest and publisher of the foreign policy focus journal the national interest dimitri simes it's great to have you on the show to do. ok let me just ask you as we have now moved into an inflection point
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politically at least in the united states and as both countries are sort of trying to figure out how to manage their equities their interests i know you have a very realist lens of how to get that right what do you think is most important right now for joe biden to try and accomplish with lattimer putin. things if as soon as the most important. american job but if you go into this. new way the good motives can you google. for it is simple in principle motivated you to accomplish because if you were better allies of wall anyone would go. to put him in there. for good to go nuclear weapons well then you're going to dissolve so it's quite a challenge for them to write about them you know one of the things you wrote recently
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in the national interest is the united states had to decide whether it wanted to be a hedge of monic democratic empire that prevented anyone else from basically having a say in the world or whether it had to recognize its constraints live within those and allow other nations to do that where do you think the u.s. is going right now with that calculation. well i thought it was. talking about of the united states not just being the number one but creative being that india. has if you will in the free world is supposed to be a minute that is to do with present this completion with russia as an end to the logical struggle it's almost like he's did it because you know best itself but if we're stuck in a ball a day go trickle struggle. and the imminent victory or was the soviet union
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as in need of socialism there's no way talking about of 'd the united states being needed to a democracy just and again being well and to succeed but if you look not a pathetic but of what is it in a cup an ink you can see that the united states and russia a quite suspicious the future of the. united states and russia or has to be a different into this and very different venues but there at the same time was nations today allies you can go whoa is not a sensible option the brinksmanship is too dangerous and accordingly it is important to day identify it is a bit 8 foot no laws it isn't because we need to manage what difference is you know one of the things i've been trying to understand dimitri is how russians inside russia look at their leadership look at their choices look at what's happened with
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ukraine look at what's happening with alexina vonnie and i and i and i think it's fair to say that you know domestic support for vladimir putin's actions in russia is rather high and a lot of us looking are just very surprised by that and i know you've been to russia recently what is your sense of putin's popularity in putin's choices are they rooted in domestic support in russia. wealth has told you this book because could you have declined it because declined it was an auction leaving spender's because it declined or was it arson difficulty in getting was a pun better mic and because of the end of ways ready for you for him this is success is huge increase in theaters. it's going to decline in combat isn't always being debated right. let's say in 2014 when there are since to go a career and that would just put your lie to deal was
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a. while not only are too low but does 62 percent job is leaders cut and you may ask how can we trust. these opinion polls well i will tell you i am quite good and they do love that bloke which belongs to the additional their arse and go home and come see it is a sporting good thing use ation a foreign agent and i think most russian the position to lead is big nobody bullets very seriously so what can is sufficiently all killer at holme not to do awarded a bow that mystics the ball in his get into with the united states and they don't look up to say zip zoom or ringback us is pressure zoom or us is a lecture the great tip we can support is because the more good it year for us and it wins those who are quite uneasy who is the wall that you would consider to shoot
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their attitude you would get people into dog like you and for him paul was still most told what to do let's listen to a clip of president biden and some of his early comments on dealing with russia united states is not looking to kick off a cycle of x. and skull ation and conflict with russia we want a stable predictable relationship and russia continues interfere with our democracy i'm prepared to take further actions to respond dimitri do you think that message from president biden is one that is welcomed in moscow and in the kremlin or is it one that is saying we're going to have a rocky relationship how do you think of a or hearing the president night states. as you know i will host a bloody difficult talk show than most goal which is called the great game. and lust says the interview can spread a 2nd period need to bespoke who is also
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a deputy chief of the presidential administration and i think of us could be a school of a day and a phone conversation of. what would be the one thing he sings he believes is the biden administration should know about the russian position what would the lower russia duck said as a supplement was president biden was the us president has recently proposed and there was still no response from clinton and biz close said he sought for a 2nd keyboardist and he said well. president biden said that he is interested in the would be in the scottish and and got going to take and with that i should wait this book to bill but the sense of problem ace the do and. the button that amused ration makes as statement leave it as it is immediately bought up but do we still will desist or are we would force russia to pay a price if they don't full well i made it them guns for almost the
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stand point is it is not a way to talk with our fear and the problem is indeed is that. being tough will with russia to create maybe many popularly into the united states that mystically but it doesn't make what you the most flexible way of going to hear good things great bright or never read that in god before him priska and helps him that mr could so often we can pretty present biden but being inflexible rhetorical is because being put in that mystically when you talk about respect and the and that and the posture that america should take in dealing. with a powerful russia i'm interested in this this because not something is often discussed do you think if the u.s. were to become more self aware of some of that that you would find a more. workable pliable you know russian participation in trying to solve some
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of these problems say in ukraine with crimea. well steam being publicly that our show is over this remote openness it right you always do negotiate from a position of strength if you have strengths and but big it is the us agenda is sufficiently and vicious the good doctor here on the good used to put huge is united states would not be strong would be strong economically it would be strong condemn so domestic unity strong contempt of climate on the lenses and of course their own limited at it having said that if you just throw them in self-confidence you don't need to put your opponents don't. demonstrate to them your strengths you demonstrate to them you will force of conviction but then you do member this is a film dignity and they may be but people who may feel the did wrong as
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a devoted disagreeable but at the same time if we don't know kind of power to intimidate them we need to need to sheet to his them and if you negotiate with somebody who can do them down and insulting the did this is a good motivator good sink to do i don't need billy-o. or want to break them was tough as nails in union was a summit union i have the will physical instance when reagan was president had taken some of it lead to this and it was no up again because he'll a soft on communism but because you want to do what is else there are others and then mr grandstanding what are russia's option strategically it does it does russia really have an option of embedding itself more closely with china i know it has has troops in an alliance with syria it has troops in libya what are the elements with iran perhaps that he kept giving iran sort of
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a sideways move in dealing with the us and things that it was party to like the j c p a way one of the elem. it's of the sort of great you know chess board out there it would give russia strategic depth and options that would help maneuver around the united states well the russian up chansons it to god intends to building strong go lenses and look but good. i would say again to my interview allow us to it was specific to me to biscoe and then address that maybe question to kim and they said that russia could have good relations with a number of football can come to just starting of course with china but i'm sure doesn't seem to be a little ice us ally say expanding production diploma as a sign of stated that it was the united states and was the czech republic not a single country is expanding i made it can or european diplomats to support russia
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invest is it disability russia and china would become a life if this subjected to strong guy made a compression and then look at ready interesting response. instead of saying well of great friends who is china and. that asian is only getting stronger every day and going to result in a formal immediate alliance instead ms depends club said. the next states and russia could have a different concept of full lenses in the russian case a license has to come from people own books companies. contribute to those as you get it compressed but it is then not didn't get engaged in you would deals and what i'm not looking for formal security to get arrangements was a on the company's not you have to understand that this is. a meaningful statement not because i used to set it to complete the it but because it didn't do
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case. more school does not expect an alliance with the anytime soon the jane use of that arsons could humility even says again the united states they want to with a glow closer together the but russia does not want to go to war when we get it going from patient 0 was a neg state because 'd of china and the same is separate the rule was that cheney and their onion former florida means the judge very. recently a shed he's been a speck of america and he complained the film game and that he did not want to win to promote new agreement nuclear disarmament agreement do we say you should put it so that russia does not strong alliances like the united states in building such alliances is not them to but i do think that if. 'd the united
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states and no careful with good some kind of talk don't put out arrangements between china and russia which would move because right in the lens but you know there was no lens good to him he had led stun but arrangement of this book on his mate could it was a to spell out well what do we have to do but it careful nobody believes this you patient in the nuclear age you know dmitri a lot of people frame russia as a you know moderate or even a small economy they may look at it as an oil and gas superpower but i know that russia has the ability to destroy the united states and has more deployed nuclear warheads than any other nation on earth and i think it's something that's forgotten but another element of power out in the world exists in what nations can do and muster in the cyber world and we've had a lot of debate in this country about what russia has done meddling in the
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elections and i'm just sort of interested in your insights into this new arena. information dissin from ation which which as you've written russia has particular expertise in but in this new world of cyber does this give russia another dimension of power that much of the world is underestimating. let's give fest i would not underestimate the russian economy quot off the death was not in the same way he who is the united states and. not a total clipping said that if you look at the pictures you can follow then numbers 6 and 2 of those then number 2 in europe just off the gentlemen here i cannot make clear i would say a very troubled country in minya dispense but this 2 major economic presence no if you look at the russian made it to budget. official feeders than just something
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going to the range of 7 could be dem voters i don't seem to think it would you take that seriously if you are in a little and them so pictures in poems this is a much more meaningful feel good there are and we did get a budget isn't very ancient over 141 continent 50 beat and all of us this a vague 80 c.d.'s number of particular for a country where. the men is much cheaper than in the united states where they don't spend same money all on pensions for the veterans in the united states in terms of siva difficult for me to judge him not to be an expert in that didn't official and in the kremlin is zim said doing good or well that jam on the world leader is in that bed of course it is and i'll bet on a different being in that mania over to mr rushton that a scientist i am a great king and you can find them in this you can bet it and can do for him.
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and sama seem to fix sent at close to muffle it to stuff ice to say whoa way again i don't know. how to compare them with the united states humans have considered it because i don't but they do have capabilities which can be of any meaningful it is a. she has made it confront patients and they don't think that then you would you want to experiment in that area but you can do because you never know when cyber warfare going to lead to an actual wolf and when we did to confront patients do you think sort of i'm on the strategic class in washington that nuclear weapons and their prevalence have become kind of you know but knol that people don't think about them anymore because i am interested in how little folks think about the nuclear possibilities in a negative encounter with russia. i think you're absolutely right it's stuff that i
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think any big things obama administration when president obama could not believe the danube would be in his right mind would sink a boat using nuclear weapons in a new kind of confrontation well of course there are limited to go up there and. says when it clear that if mother is in danger you're going to win then look at who has nuclear weapons is it would concede to you can you clinton and what you've said what aggressive could we could we should they shouldn't when there are isn't danger or when there are may be destroyed well of course once the world was open russia maybe have to do it to us do well to do and exist has said it all because for the same is that a customer can do what they think and no amount of throws them to flip can. heal up roach oil fields of to say that. he has
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a somewhat important but their own in terms of forward you can you can do well here of course with the ball enough to the oil but. he is presidents of the incident because work no other than time with bill is cold letting the beauty of the book 8 boat emitted people died and let me interrupt and lungs it was young brother so i. hope we can pursue billick your for major wall this is a current affair how it. was his approach to major confront be sure to leave the united states is in my view. but does it look if people it will younger. in you experience in the world would do much more quietly as a human so said just you all kinds of we did it it did ations against what was a beauty if they made a computer gemini write what you mean is not
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a correct work in is that our nation that is but he is a brother much former intelligence officer she is not like you know a couple that in general who wants to much forward no matter what but it's such people in there are. much more what i would say a sedative less corpus of approach. than we did that elation for the united states let me just ask you finally dimitri president biden has made an offer to president putin to meet him sometime this summer for a one on one personal summit i've read in russia in the russian press that they don't want a repeat of hell sinking in 2018 they don't want a do nothing summit that ends up looking like a clown show basically they want something serious if you were helped to identify the most important elements of an agenda that these 2 leaders would find worth
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their equity sit home what would those be what would you put on the table to advise president biden as a way of saying here is a way to make this more serious than not in terms of bringing vladimir putin into a consequential dialogue. well climate change is wanted in iraq or in the united states but a lot in common i see nuclear proliferation including you know business case of north korea again that is considerable agreement and that i would say crisis management strategic stability were actually i think. one of the best efforts of collaboration between 0 net and states and thereafter is that innovation should be doing to me to that is there was to disagree there was do concede to each other i will say but they do know color to work together and to manage to do. beyond that
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with a one great deal i didn't claim this is ukraine. states but he's going to go by because of the hope that ukraine is. a defunct their ally and look at the situation between russia and ukraine as black and white was in the united states accepting that ukraine is a victim of aggression russia and the rest and they basically adopted to you. that ukraine if you wish is the biggest i'm against for the russian aggression in the order for the russian ukraine isn't exist then show be sure they do believe that do it was immediate that it wouldn't in ukraine beckon to sell isn't 14 they don't need that it could happen to his considerable assistance from the united states and only help those that are good to go of crimea and support into
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separatists it's very difficult to have any agreement on ukraine if news aside is willing to compromise and understand that this shit dish and is a road that can play well dimitri simes president c.e.o. of the center for the national interest i really appreciate your candid bots thank you for joining us today thank you very much so what's the bottom line everything that washington doesn't like about russia is exactly what makes putin more popular invading ukraine and annex in crimea well that's super popular in russia doing away with term limits and basically keeping putin as president for life or at least the next 15 years. that's super popular in russia even trying to kill his critical lexan of only throwing him in jail half a russian say it's his own fault for criticizing putin and don't forget all opinion polls in russia say that folks there see the united states as their number one enemy so putin stays popular as long as he finds new ways to poke america whether by hacking or by social media campaigns to mess with american society what
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incentive does he have to play nice with biden so let's keep it real as my guest today would have it america is going to have to figure out a way to live in cold peace with moscow warmer than the days of the cold war but not warm and friendly and that's the bottom line. joggers in new delhi take advantage of the relatively clean air after weeks of toxic small stopped people from venturing outside institutions including harvard say air pollution is leading to more severe cases of the coronavirus and more deaths from it and nowhere in india is the situation worse than in daddy the number of cases ordered record highs and where a desperate situation of the indian government set up a new commission to monitor sources of pollution across 5 north and ian states health experts and bad mental and been wanting for months that the easing of the
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