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tasting i wasn't lucky enough to be there because it was done in march in port au. the reports are that it's mature it fantastically well so so that said great news. your job is there with me so horribly a reminder of our top stories there often is a krone virus numbers and nepal are reaching similar levels to neighboring india it has 57 times more cases than of 2 months ago a lockdown has been extended in the capital katmandu from running out the limbo house more on the government's response it took a couple of decisions to round up the lenders in the capital so that it could distribute it to the hospitals in in that mine do in the valley it has decided to look force base to manage 4 bodies of people who have after we all died from
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a virus and it is so it is so i don't think it's actually bought that far and it is of course there's a lot down in these knock down which is being. bothered for another week and we have halted international flights and domestic flights for the time being but i think it's a little a little too late this is what critics and health of the public. nearly 3 people are dying of krona virus every minute in india on friday reported another record daily rise of more than 410000 cases but many states say they're still waiting for emergency equipment and medical supplies to reach the hospitals. quote a virus restrictions have been extended in japan's capital just 77 days before the show jul start of the olympics as state of emergency was due to end in 4 days but cases are still surging there are concerns about how prepared tokyo will be for the games britain's governing conservative party has secured an election victory in an
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democratic republic of congo places 2 provinces under military control groups have killed hundreds of people and displaced millions but will the intervention be enough to stop the violence this is inside story. hello welcome to the program. for you is armed groups have instilled faith in eastern democratic republic of congo the government has struggled to maintain order in north kivu and the tory provinces so president said he has instructed the army
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to take charge of 2 regions for a month he's declared what's called a state of siege for the 1st time soldiers will take over local government functions and they'll have the right to conduct searches seize weapons and ban public meetings catherine soy is monitoring developments from kenya's capital nairobi. this law is effective for 30 days to be reviewed and it's a fast time it's being used since the post civil rule constitution was 1st passed in 2001 and president phillips she said katie during his address to the nation on sunday gave the military and police force immense power was in this 2 provinces they will now be running administrative duties already 2 generals have been appointed as governors they will have the power to arrest to go forcefully into people's homes without a warrant and arrest those suspected of collaborating and supporting armed groups
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that immunity of members of parliament as well as other elected officials has been lifted this means they can also be arrested on suspicion of supporting armed groups so people are quite worried about this development thing that perhaps the military okuda abuse some of this power was a lot of uncertainty other people have talked to say are saying that look the military has been in this regions for many years this 2 regions are the most militarized regions in d.r. see tens of thousands of soldiers are currently there including the peacekeeping mission. fighting rebels with little success other congolese we've spoken to say that perhaps this is a radical solution that is needed the president seems eager to solve a problem that his predecessors failed to there are more than a 100 groups in is than d r c they've been carrying out
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a series of killings over the years thousands of civilians have been killed many more have been displaced. in neighboring countries like uganda we have in tonally displaced people in places like a tour of province so civilians think that they are fed up and they need a solution but when you talk to the other side civil society groups and so on. they say that there needs to be checks and balances to make sure that this forces the military and the police not to be is the power. more than $300.00 people have been killed in the east of the democratic republic of congo since the start of the year now most of the attacks are blamed on the allied democratic forces the idea which was formed in neighboring uganda it's estimated last year the armed group killed 850 people now the violence has displaced more than 1600000 people in its hoary and more than 2200000 in north kivu province unicef says that almost $3000000.00 people
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in those areas need help but an appeal for nearly $390000000.00 in emergency funding hasn't even raised $80000000.00 less than a 5th of what awful. let's bring in our guests in the north a key view province neve murnaghan democratic republic of congo country director for the norwegian refugee council in akra combine volley research at the center for research on the congo concession and in cape town patrick how g.n.d. senior project leader at the institute for justice and reconciliation welcome to the program i'd like to bring in. in akra one of the things i don't really understand about this new movie and will come to the state of siege in just a moment is who are the a.d.f. and what are they fighting for. only if this is
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a ugandan rebel group they've been in a day or see since the early ninety's have plans that is really around governance in uganda they believe that they are prosecuted they have other plans where there or they are speaking from a perspective of bringing islam in a space. look at actually the facts on the ground i will give it much power but i think that the state of siege is beyond the i.d.f. he's mentally around the mill to pull rebel groups that's in the region beyond a.t.f. you have all the militia group that's there and the police president felt that this is the appropriate time to declare so which contradicts some of his beliefs 20 for 21st of june 27th before you was president he was against this position himself say 'd that is to the stage was unnecessary but as a president today is actually calling for that now. even. do
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you think a state of siege is actually necessary. i think that certainly we are seeing a huge impact from the violence in eastern the r.c. so the numbers of people that are fleeing violence from their homes are significant over a 1000000 people have fled their homes in eastern b.r.c. in the last 18 months so that means that you know those people are left without their homes without their livelihoods without access to to the services that they need so clearly the status quo has had a very negative impact on the civilian population in the country and last year alone 3000 civilians were killed as a result of the the conflict and you know far more than that were injured so you know the certainly the situation in eastern dearest is creating
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a huge humanitarian crisis in the country but a state of siege is that the best way of dealing with it i think that's probably a very political question i think that there are potential consequences from a humanitarian point of view air depending on how the the state of siege is is implemented we could perhaps see further displacement of people are fleeing military action desire to to address the the not numerous armed groups in eastern eastern congo it may also become more difficult to provide assistance to those who are already in need as well as any new people that will be forced to just leave because of violence it was a very very political question it was a deliberate political question as well i want to bring in come balik in akra is this politics. when we need to put that in the framework right the state of teacher
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is the last resort i mean 4 of us probably don't understand what you may mean this is martial law we have to look at what other processes we've done before that did not work what is the problem it's a political problem better calm calmer a former u.n. commanders in 2008 sede that we can put military 'd pressure focal wars problem but it is in the end a political problem and what is this political process problem says that united states congress has been invented twice based neighbors rather uganda and the continued support proxy rebel militias remit talk about hundreds of rebel groups if we do not have congress neighbors s. to call that peace in the r.c. will continue to talk about rebel militias in the r.c. we continue to talk about a stability so the proper way to address it i don't think that is to them stage i.v. stand is necessary when he bring this challenges when you have a statistic which we bought security sector reform you will have deals from the
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military you know you can go at the question let's bring in patrick and his and cape town for us patrick is this a political move by the president to declare a state of siege to show that he's actually doing something. yes. maybe hugh is that a the president of the air sea actually is working on one or he's made promises during the electoral campaign because a lot of the idea was to make sure that the eastern part of our c e secured so this is the promise that he made and i think he's trying really to to do something about that promise but in reality when you look at the whole thing the extent. the problem of violence in that part of our sea is not only about security issues it's
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a much more deep problem which is related to structural violence which means that they have been a fairly here institutional failure and they have been if they catch ohioans are developed in that particular are area and also even the armed groups which operate in that particular region have had a lot of incentive to continue operating saw in ways you would be decision will not yearn. much results. which means that there is no work to do in terms of conducting some deep reforms so that the big can be some sustainable solutions in that particular area but patrick our guest in akra has said already that this isn't an internal deal say problem that
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there are regional players that need to be brought into this if there is to be a long term solution do you feel the same way or do you think that the d.l.c. can handle this internally. at this particular time i think of the year sees not in a position 200 the problem itself there is a need for help from neighboring countries and also the international community to tool have been very good if core which has been present in that area for the past 2 decades to show some results but unfortunately it has not been the case but. the problem and yes it cannot be solved by day the president and the congolese alone what we know is that there is a presence of groups as my colleague said already from the aid if which is originally
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a gun and i'm group. the remnant of groups from london and they're also in the south in what we call the south kivu some groups also originated from whom the which includes a red and f. man which is led by your neurons i am him. so all those groups are present and they are not congolese so if there is a solution to be in the socially to be sustainable it will include the liberal countries and the international community helping the congolese people and they can release the leadership to find a sustainable solution and i would really start with the raw squeeze play which need to be read you it and if there is a need to give them more power to operate in that area they should be given that power and sort of the show some courage will result on the ground neither unless it
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is a the un the united nations peacekeeping force which just mention moscow has been there for 2 decades. and still we're at this position where there's a state of siege now is there any way that the united nations or any international organization without a political solution can help the humanitarian crisis that's unfolding or is a politics 1st then humanitarian i think i mean it is undoubtedly a chronic crisis that's been going on for more than 20 years i think that humanitarian response is very much addressed in the corridors and the result of the conflict but it doesn't the address the root of the conflict need a political solution and that is unlikely to be found within 30 days
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let me what do you what do you need in order to be able to provide a humanitarian solution what are your needs right now. obviously finance is one of the huge challenges in a context like congo which has been ongoing for so many years and we face a situation of donor fatigue so currently when we're already 4 months into the year the humanitarian response plan for the the annual appeal for congo is funded only 8 percent so that that this is really critical issue for all humanitarian actors here in a we're seeing an between $1.00 and $2.00 alerts a week of new displacements the 2 sites of i.d.p.'s this morning that i visited have had more than 600 families arrive in the last month and almost milissa since arriving so all of the humanitarian actors are stretched very thin layer people are having to reduce staff reduce presence on the ground at the same time as we are
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saying that the needs are increasing currently it's estimated that $27000000.00 people across congo which is on that magical number but 27000000 people across the congo are in an at risk of being food insecurity each this year so you know the needs are enormous and the resources aren't there to make them. patrick in cape town how much of that is being blamed on the congolese government how much of what needs just said people who are displaced they have food insecurity they can't eat how much of that is actually being blamed on the congolese government failings rather than the insurgency the armed groups that are operating. actually the 1st problem when you look at this situation cold war is that there is a very least connection between the central government and what is going on in the eastern part of yes so for example. when i'm working the
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boom the i see a lot of congolese coming to join were out for banking for all the needs they have they when they are looking for all the products into the bullion market so which means there is a really this connection and i don't think that the government in kinshasa know exactly what is going on in in in eastern congo so this is a well the 1st problem to be solved how can we can and the congolese government has to reduce disconnection establishment's working channels to be able to to support the population in the east of the r.c.c. so that the 1st question and the 2nd one is that because of the low time of war in that particular area the population has been in
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a situation where they are not able to to look for solution for a very long 10 and that's why you do not see them planting their the land they are not kitty baiting they're not growing food and that it's a problem 'd which is directly connected to the fund that in their area has been in security for a very long time so the question is about how the government is going to implement some new policies which will help improve security and as i said in collaboration with the international community and with the area their region our countries and how also. all need always want to. line how. i'm going to feel safe and be encouraged to to do the daily work which will allow them to have to meet their needs like growing food like could do in business
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normally so that they have what they need so those i've through will be 15 which can be done of the president but it's a very long process and be the issue security is paramount to be solved pressed and so that people feel now days at peace with a sense of peace and say so off to security where believe we will do with them able to where where the answers are not just for. a hit and they've heard everything the patrick has had to say in cape town it strikes me that a state of siege a state of emergency is the 1st step to providing security the united nations peacekeeping force after 20 years hasn't been able to do that we have a massive humanitarian crisis as neve is just been talking to us about surely it's time to use the money that moleski we're spending for humanitarian needs get that
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done 1st disband the un peacekeeping force get a state of siege in and provide security security needs to come for sholay. there are many people to have responsibility of holar something in the r.c. the coalition government has regional partners have the 2 lot of us it's us such as the un and the african union they have a role to play i want to speak out by the united nation particularly the un forces they have been operation that's been successful now look at the force that of us you know not peed the f. i mean the force of the force of the russian brigade starting 2012 when you add african missions coming together. send the troops of africans and the troops just up to and $23.00 rebels that were successful are doing so these forces can under the umbrella of the united nation and there are many things that it would have done more if there were not under that right now we see the nicholas president as an i
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dream and military agreement we can yet succumb and do with the issue of the rebel forces we see also a call for africa all these military solutions are worrying the people of the east in benning and with them but people have been massacred for decades 'd in that region in 2018 really the 'd it percent of while we are even talking about governance in the city in the election happened someone was declared the winner of the election felix just a k.t. he's now the president of the congo where we are discussing if this government can actually lead you remember that in 2018 the people of the of the temple and you'll be did not vote the reason why the government deny allowed them to vote is because the say there was their security in these cities and also they break iran been able to these people for decades have suffered tremendously they have not because so tit
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for solutions and i have a particular worry then number one war is we have this state of siege at thing military in power when you have human rights. they are no they are in the military they are former rebels and yes the not the left free rein in the north kivu province indeed to any problems because now they are the one ruled what would be the checks and balances for that so we have to speak about one the voice of the congress is not heard any time there was of course as. we come up we've got more and more issues happening we only addressing the symptoms the fundamental problem for the police since 1006 that they have not been able to determine that yes when they try to do so dam posed leaders we are coming suffering from all that we are we all running out of time i do want to bring in the other gases alarming thought need monahan in my c.c. if there is a state of siege and there are human rights abuses by the congolese army that's
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going to create a big humanitarian crisis are you worried about that i think we are all concerned about what could. be involved in a cathedral and yet there have been any intel but certainly you know we could envisage a situation where access may be difficult but where 'd. displacement happens and where populations are left feeling more insecure that may currently do. in cape town patrick do you still believe that this state of siege is the only way forward for the in the current situation if there are no regional solutions if not a political solutions. no actually i don't think that or the decision by the president of the of dear c. . kevin or solve any problem is special because it will be just for 50 days so and
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as i say the problem is much deeper because it's a structural problem which leads to tadg with a situation to turn to how this so saved it in as a would function so it would not really bring in any a solution and also we have to understand that that area that eastern those programs the north kivu the promises they have been under siege for a very long time so what the president is is doing is not really new he has just made it official but in general those people have been under siege for a very long time so it's not a sustainable solution and i totally agree with that he there is a need to consult to the population on the ground so that. not all solutions understood because those people are living on
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a daily basis seeing the violence they have some understanding that need to be brought on a table so that they as humans are taken into account because they may suggest to some innovative super solution which the central government is not reflect reflecting on. well that's my i want to thank all our guests need not a hand of ali. thank you for watching you can see this program and all all previous programs again any time visiting a web site out there dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook don't call forward slash a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter we are a.j. inside story from me imraan khan and the whole team hit by for the.
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