thousands of parents around the world live to reckon with to reality if they lived in a different country or if they were rich they could save the baby the most the children's lives depend on the generosity of strangers charlotte dallas al-jazeera. it is good to have you with us holloway very unfair to here in doha the headlines on al-jazeera israel's supreme court has agreed to delay monday's decision on the forced eviction of palestinians in shaikh shah the attorney general last fall the dispersants prime minister benjamin netanyahu though says he's determined to push the plan through and. we also firmly reject the pressure not to build in jerusalem tomorrow recreate these pressures have been increasing of light i cite also to the beast of reference jerusalem is israel's capital and just as every nation built in its capital and built up its capital we also have the right to build in jerusalem

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waving covies vaccine patents he says u.s. president joe biden's proposal isn't practical it argues exporting more doses is a faster way to help developing countries is this politically motivated and what does it mean for the millions of people waiting to get their shots this is inside story. hello welcome to the program. almost everyone agrees one way to be the pandemic is to increase global vaccine production but we're leaders defer on how to give more access to poor nations that lack doses the u.s.

has supported suspending vaccine intellectual property rights that could allow developing nations to acquire the knowledge needed to produce jobs locally but some european leaders argue a patent waiver would not help boost supply they insist making and sharing vaccines war quickly is the best way to do that european nations say they have been generous in exporting vaccines to other nations they've called on the u.s. to do its part. we should work towards the vaccine becoming a global public product what does that mean firstly producing more that's why i'm calling directly on the united states to end the export ban on the vaccines but also on the components of these vaccines which is preventing production. the idea is rejected by pharmaceutical companies who argue a patent wavers could compromise the quality and safety of vaccines it's also been

opposed by germany that's home to biotech the firm jointly holding a patent on a modern day technology with pfizer this is why the german chancellor had to say or and you know how much i made it clear that i do not believe that giving away patents is the solution to make fractions available to more people i believe that we need the creativity and the power of innovation of those for and that is why i believe in a patent protection. cause i have been growing for the patent waiver after supplies to poor countries were affected by india's cove in 1000 crisis the country is the world's main vaccine producer has been prior to rising doses for its own people after the devastating surge in affections along with south africa it led a push for the temporary waiver of the world trade organization last october they are supported by at least $61.00 nations why both countries reject the initiative

waiving patent rights means that any country that gets the scientific know how could produce doses without having to worry about being sanctioned or find the w.t. decision requires a unanimous vote by all a 164 members for the measure to pass 10 meetings have failed to reach a consensus and to go she expected to take months. let's bring in our guests in barcelona. jeffrey lazarus had of the health systems research group at bustard honest a tooth for global health in new delhi and i just watch. is an intellectual property lawyer in robot as the abraham is director of the medical biotechnology laboratory medical and pharmacy school welcome to the program geoffrey one would think that patent wave was always going to be something people would be unanimous

about why is this divide now i think this is more about politics than proper pandemic control. president biden has had a real p.r. coup showing solidarity around the world by offering to support it temporary waiver in the patent in the pants and we need to remember that went out already back in october 20 twentieth's that it would not enforce and control and no country has has picked that up so i think you know it's really more about the e.u. and the u.s. battling it out a little bit and it isn't out making a change in the short or medium term because it will take a while to increase production if we can even increase production in the countries that just to take advantage of this rubbish why this is an extraordinary moment and therefore the need for extraordinary measures and one of the measures are proposed by the americas is the patent waiver from

a legal perspective how delicate is this as a task. by the way i want to. pick the girls the why. but use those or back. one of the other up till our back to. the property line. we believe to be true. because maybe there's something to that man back this was in terms of ringback use for the. play that is the. rolling coverage a number of members many factors come off the back. there is a lot of. action back a good being back and wait why that mean altera for the game will mean the more so out of those actually. being back what need goals you would need back and play well i'm a visionary if you get

a violent back that i am but out of all that you were in the fire i'm going with the way they look at us i just feel that only to fans as long as that of a week before the 'd ladies of the 4 of them like regular. walks and party ok then i would assume the moral is in favor of waiting until actually over to protection what does it mean for a country like morocco it's very important for morale for for a simple reason actually and i think for oh now for can countries most likely desist order i would point this way because you have agreed you have money on being greedy and for a simple process but you said something very important national in the beginning you said that if one country were not pulling the w to you this decision that since it would not go through so we can see that you not going to go through but i think for all the countries what is important is just to set the precedent so you in a time of crisis it's

a really we have to have some kind. measures like that so we know we don't look to africa are less than one percent of the population gets vaccine i think we have to try says either we accept that or to fight to get some vaccine to africa the way to the west is to say that we cannot obey the rules of the patent and we want the patent waiver and that's what did south africa with in the and other countries that push actually the discussion between the brought in in europe and the rich countries and then in the beginning after i have to remind everybody that they were of course with that that's why them decided by the and so go for the waiver and when you go to europe actually when you look at the countries of course in its did not have the same reasons actually germany is opposing it because it has 2 companies who are vying and by on tech they are producing and they didn't didn't get their money back on the other hand when you recenter what's mccraw said he

wasn't a read of course towards but he's saying give us the ingredients because they have the know how to do it so you can see that everybody is trying to get some writing out of it but and this city is here and this is exactly where the lines up get blurred the jeffrey as a deal was talking about the the case of germany now when you when you look when you listen to i'm going to merkel saying that the the patent wavers would dump and the interpreter know little innovation spirit is she generally is acting on that spirit or just trying to protect biotech. it i think he's trying to protect by an attack because you know the companies develop these vaccines with a lot of public support and i don't see any reason why this would stifle innovation we're talking about a possible temporary waiver during global crisis in order to help the poorest countries you have to remember that oxford developed and that scene and partnered

with astra zeneca pfizer received hundreds of millions of dollars in public support to pharmaceutical companies will always importantly be able to continue to innovate i think this is really a show of solidarity and that i said earlier we've already seen one and from what happened and not being enforced and nothing has really changed. it's almost like a david versus goliath when poor nations would go to the world trade organization they would say when did it it will save lives but then the goliath with reply back saying about you know what this is not going to be a magic bullet you're it's going to be a long way for you to acquire or the know how infrastructure to be able to make many facts a vaccine so how is it going to work that of the world trade organization do you think. you know or i'm one of them and you a can there i've been going to be a long winded bunch of people we should. actually given us more in the

back of the long winded maybe you should and we're going to relax and fuck you fire all know what ingles abbas's. by being better is one of the reasons why i said yes yes we will be community and we shall be able of the bad bad bad are to be seen how it works all the goes does so you gotta make an announcement is going there still being there may be getting good are the last will which always by the heart of the odd ball when knowledge you know. so what become either trying to say or what are your earliest signs was that now all 'd you know is with all of the why they don't hang just protected by the lack of water which is what do you by the ally of my eyes and i want to subject us what is that day going to be i have been given the book to be dead it was and the fact is i'm all just the that already to the mind and the more out of me do you go back to

your use of technology as you read our blog you want it all a religion and maybe something to make me go back to the wider community backing you know this is the will of. the longest running back which ok so i try to. get what it takes and i'm. going fast as well may be conscious then because since was thought to show about covalent a year ago the debate has always been about this disconnect between what the health community is aspiring to achieve and what the politicians bow down trying to to to work out and this is why i'm trying to ask you this question what do you think should come 1st not the past and why eva listing all the export restrictions that countries like the ok on the u.s. have been imposing for quite some time that would allow for more doses to be flown to different countries immediately for people to be vaccinated. well we'd like in

poor countries actually to have both of them i think it would be great but i think for the short term would love actually to see the u.s. and actually britain given up a lot of horses because i think the situation in their countries is much better and they think they could afford to do that when you see in the u.s. you have 17 millions actually those of us trust an account that they don't need either and the are not going to use them but they are just piling them i think we should give them up and middle term or long term i think it's very good to set up a precedent say and when there is a crisis and a pandemic everybody there is no place for patent because that when you talk about patents you're talking about money and we have an antecedent of that people forget that in the ninety's we had the same problem with south africa actually decided to waive or to break down the patent for the drugs against. aids actually 3 if you had i think it was very important that this question will

come back every time but for us i think in countries like morocco we'd love to see both of them happy jeffrey how do you respond to those who are say the pretty much concern basically in the us that a patent waiver could end up in transferring some crucial critical sensitive technological information to countries that should not have it particularly china and russia. i'm not concerned about that so madonna isn't in force in the hand as mentioned but importantly you know the countries have already made the high income countries and already purchased the doses that they need some cases many times over could access purchased a large percentage of the deuces they're going to need so i think this is really an issue about allowing the vaccines to be exploited allowing the components to be exploited and if other countries you know acquire the ability to produce m

a m i n a that exceeds i think that that's just a better situation for the world. india itself is a remarkable case the biggest producer of pharmaceutical products suddenly boag done with the covert 19 infections it's desperate for the 1st of all of the lifting of the exports that was imposed by the americans desperate for the patent waiver what it what is it going to make for a country like india do you see a potential for a speedy recovery of the patent waiver is established. by which we were is managed the election has a lot more than just one of the entire of the world and you want to use the entire fleet so we will have subs and we have we in this regard will be reliable cars and something cool job as the government. 2 of those are giving you what tools like

compulsory like so the government does mean. looking at the back fully independent ringback of work as a double digit lead nation by events that will have. to be act like. you don't have time to make learn from it other come up with come to manage batch of the lack. of the team and i worked the phones and so i think the little steps that we need to date because we all need to watch what they do if in a minute or to god result mind you any day of the woes of you find one in the greater than that of the book you will be ok i think the let's be realistic a when we say that the path and way by is a good thing in practical terms. to the way that takes place tomorrow how much time would it take a country like morocco to establish the manufacturing capacity the supply the

supply chain to be able to deliver the vaccine on time for the people needing the vaccination. wow that's a great question no hash may think you want jeffrey said is true because modernizing was in force in the patent right meds and none of the countries the 60 countries that you're not trying to break that waiver are actually doing a lot of manufacturing vaccine i think in the 60 countries that is still kind of countries that is south africa in the end a couple of other countries that they have the know how and the capability of the it and they are pushing actually because they can do it right now but i think countries like morocco and others it will take time to do with it but i think we want to have this kind of precedent because it's great to have it because if we have another pandemic or a play to me at local it be that we could be able actually to use it and to be able

actually to manufacture this kind of piece jeffrey sometimes we tend to simplify things for just for the sake of of conveying the message but we're taught which comes to the patent to waver the industry itself is not just about that it's about the the plastic bags the filters the cell culture media the limpid none of particles the micro carriers you're talking about a set of sophisticated highly developed things they have to put together to be able to come to manufacture the vaccine when it comes to those details how are you going to go around them to be able to say you know what i am willing and i will do it on time for all the people. that's exactly right this is when the president had delivered this is about this is a wake up call to the world that in an emergency during a pandemic we are unable to produce the number of doses of an axiom that we need to for over a variety of reasons including acquiring all of those necessary components that you

just listed out as well as the factories that can finish and fail including the ability to store the m.r.i. in a. very local temperatures in countries that don't have that kind of a large scale refrigeration capacity so this is i think this is going to serve as the wake up call to the world that we need to do something about that production companies that have the technology and able to produce the doses fast enough and you know we haven't at least heard that there's been. rejections offers for for military licensing and the countries are simply not able to produce the vaccines i'm not sure that the waiver will really make the difference of needs to come together it's stop blocking the export and this is a component stop blocking the export of that scene that just an advertisement for new york that said you know comment ters are welcome to get back sit in their

favorite sites clearly there are enough available doses in the u.s. this does this need to get india brazil and other countries that need them. why sometimes unfortunately how to play by the voice of the international game but my question is this is it right for any country just because it's which to scoop up all the contracts when it comes to the vaccines when their neighbor just next door dying because they don't have any access whatsoever to. yeah i think it's just there and you know that this that that you those long just justifying being after all by guns on them just to fight is all and that's all muslims all i get on the see my way of sandals that is that the argument would be far enough to come. that you know we've invested so much of. dying they manage 'd the results and the sound of the moment the more i'm just given don't we and that

a lot of them nor how did you all will share that with them but that's the maybe the goal of all of that knowledge which they've been they have them that it's not what they don't do being at all that is a lot of them and you know which is what we have in the problems of the land we were giving would mean that yes we give a reason when you can but the result of it always that of always means that of you give those to for example and yet your me a half of them to small i'm ok with them i would use that that was then you get also this augment advance by many experts who would tell you that you know lots of countries in africa for example when i behind when it comes to. the message i'll deny technology and therefore if we ought to sort of. go for the patent way but there's absolutely no way that would be able to acquire the skills the technology they need to be able to manufacture particularly something similar

to the flies and well done of accidents. well i think for the basic technology hashim it's quite simple actually to do this kind of things even a budget of the greased students could then stand this kind of technology and put them better i think the proof of concept and the upscaling to the manufacturing causation will be difficult for these countries but we should start i think for the prasco with i'm not talking for countries in africa right now i think it would be difficult to have a torrent now but i think it's something that's we have to start right now maybe the pandemic will be longer for a simple reason and just talks about it because if we keep up the african countries from getting the vaccine and we saw what's happening in the you know we'll get violence and if we get violent that will escape the immunity or the worm and all of this country will be playing catch 22 and would come back to square 0 and we get back to another pandemic so i think this countries should the really think twice

before limits in access to this our case to the vaccines jeffrey for the time being what would be the earliest to see an additional capacity flowing into the global market if we start with the patent waivers and bear in mind that we're dealing with new. mutations and new variants coming into different parts of the world do you think that 2022 would be the ideal time frame for the capacity to be expanded. well the ideal time frame is right now and i think 2022 is when we realistically see it kicking in and right now you know as was just mentioned there are there are 2 big issues one is the issue of variance of concern that are emerging like the recent declination in the u.k. and the indian variant integration of concern and then there's the ongoing human tragedy i think the world rather than discussing this and focusing so much on a patent waiver that will be many many months under negotiation needs are going to

how we can scale up on the question why only scale production faster and i just want a less than a minute if you don't mind how do you respond to those who a tell you that the patent waiver is not going to work for the simple reason everyone who has cast is concerned this could set a precedent beyond vaccine so they'd rather see it dead now instead of being depicted across different sections of the world economy. or all of them coming in or are cash that a lot of people overlook that that meant. that at the polling the government and the government or it wasn't part of the big. question that there are you know you. think. oh i need here in the mail definitely or certainly the bad news the lack. of the bad and the like.

in the last. well jeffrey la raza swati how do how don and i as a deal brahimi a really appreciate your insight thank you very much indeed for your contributions to the program and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com all for was last a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is a j inside story for me and the entire team here in doha by phone now.

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