in may the gods are the same they prepare to send another shipment of oxygen concentrators to help alleviate the massive strain on hospitals and a serious lack of oxygen the concentrators can be used for milder cases at home and don't need direct connection to an oxygen supply imagining so many people not being able to breathe you know just that picture going in their head is. something that many of us can't live with so while they do everything they can to help their homeland in crisis indian thais will have to continue to pray via video link for their loved ones in danger but also pray that their situation does not worsen scotland al-jazeera bangkok. this is al jazeera and these are the headlines. i most compounds in occupied east jerusalem is the scene of

a violent israeli crack time on palestinians holy sites israeli forces afar coated steel bullets tear gas and sign poems of palestinian worshippers inside a mosque that's the 2nd time israeli forces have stormed a lot some mosque since last week. we were praying in the mosque suddenly the soldiers. get it. without any there they started. a sound and there are many dozens of injured dozens of. people the for on the one bullets it's amazing this is a prank not for a fight but. i would say it's in and around the compound which is the most case really security forces targeted on the city and the testers who are standing guard. tensions are running high head of the

march on monday by right wing israeli nationalists for an event they call jerusalem day the palestinian red crescent says more than 270 people have been injured and that their team is being prevented from reaching the compound with aides at least 80 people have been taken to hospital iran's foreign ministry has strongly condemned an attack around its consulate in karbala on sunday protestors in the iraqi city targeted iran after an anti government activist was shot dead in an apparent execution supporters of it was nice at fars runs the iranian consulate they suspect of any impact feiss of being behind the shooting and the official daily number of covert 900 factions in india has fallen below 400000 for the 1st time in 4 days officials have recorded 3700 deaths and that so to date to stay with this inside story is next.

waiving covert vaccine patents he says u.s. president joe biden's proposal isn't practical it argues exporting more doses is a faster way to help developing countries is this politically motivated and what does it mean for the millions of people waiting to get shots. inside story. hello welcome to the program. almost everyone agrees one way to be the pandemic is

to increase global vaccine production but we're defer on how to give more access to poor nations that lack doses the u.s. has supported suspending vaccine intellectual property rights that could allow developing nations to acquire the knowledge needed to produce jobs locally but some european. patent waiver would not help boost supply they insist making and sharing vaccines war quickly is the best way to do that european nations say they have been generous in exporting vaccines to other nations they've called on the u.s. to do its part. we should work towards the vaccine becoming a global public product what does that mean firstly producing more that's why i'm calling directly on the united states to end the export ban on the vaccines but also on the components of these vaccines which is preventing production. the idea

is rejected by pharmaceutical companies who argue a patent wavers could compromise the quality and safety of vaccines it's also been opposed by germany that's home to biotech the firm jointly holding a patent on a modern day technology with pfizer this is why the german chancellor had to say or . know how much i made it clear that i do not believe that giving away patents is the solution to make fractions available to more people i believe that we need the creativity and the power of innovation of those for and that is why i believe in a patent protection cause i have been growing for the patent waiver after supplies to poor countries were affected by india's cove in 1000 crisis the country is the world's main vaccine producer has been prior to rising doses for its own people after the devastating surge in affections along with south africa it led

a push for the temporary waiver of the world trade organization last october there are supported by at least 61 nations why both countries reject the initiative waving patent rights means that any country that gets the scientific know how could produce doses without having to worry about being sanctioned or find the w.t. decision requires a unanimous vote by all a 164 members for the measure to pass 10 meetings have failed to reach a consensus and to go she says are expected to take months. let's bring in our guests in barcelona. jeffrey lazarus had of the health systems research group at bustard honest a tooth for global health in new delhi and i just watch. is an intellectual property lawyer in robot as the abraham is director of the medical biotechnology

laboratory medical and pharmacy school welcome to the program geoffrey one would think that patent wave was always going to be something people would be unanimous about why is this divide now i think this is more about politics than proper pandemic control. president biden has had a real p.r. coup showing solidarity around the world by offering to support it temporary waiver in the patent in the patent and we need to remember that madonna already back in october 2020 said that it would not enforce and control and no country has as big that so i think you know it's really more about the e.u. and the u.s. battling it out a little bit and it isn't out making a change in the short or medium term because it will take a while to increase production if we can even increase production in the countries that just to take advantage of the. rubbish why this is an extraordinary moment and

therefore the need for extraordinary measures and one of the measures are proposed by the americas is the patent waiver from a legal perspective how delicate is this as a task. by the way i want to pick the girls though why i. would use those or back. a lot of that was our back to. the puppy lion. with the big debate. because big changes that i made back to this was this and use that like that as a. woman coverage a number of members many factors to come up with that. there is a lot of. passion that you're a good being back and we are i that mean all care for the game winning the

more so out of those actually. being back what need role you would need to have back and say well i'm a visionary if you get the file more back that i am but out of all that you were in the 5 i'm going with the way they look at this i just feel that only to 5 times as long as that of a week before the 'd ladies of the like they got. me i wasn't part ok then i would show the maracas in favor of waving intellectual property protection what does it mean for a country like morocco it's very important for morale or for a simple reason actually and i think for oh now for can countries most likely desist or i would call it this way because you have greed you have money or being greedy and for a simple process but you said something very important national in the beginning you said that if one country were not pooling the

w 2 you this decision that says it will not go through so we can see that's enough going to go through but i think for other countries what is important is just to set the precedent so you in a time of crisis it's really we have to have some kind. measures like that so we know we don't look to africa are less than one percent of the population gets vaccine i think we have to try says either we accept that or to fight to get some vaccine to africa the way to the west is to say that we cannot obey the rules of the patent and we want the patent waiver and that's what did south africa with in the and other countries that bush actually did this question between the brought in in europe and the rich countries and then in the beginning after i have to remind everybody that they were of course with that that's why them decided by the and so go for the waiver and when you go to europe actually when you look at the countries of course in its did not have the same reasons actually germany is opposing it

because it has 2 companies could revive and buy one tech they are producing and they didn't didn't get their money back on the other hand when you respond to what's macross said he wasn't a reader of course towards but he's saying give us the ingredients because they have the know how to do it so you can see that everybody is trying to get some writing out of it but and they said it is here and this is exactly where the lines up get blurred the jeffrey as a deal was talking about the the case of germany now when you when you look when you listen to i'm going to merkel saying that the the patent wavers would dump and the interpreter know little innovation spirit is she generally is acting on that spirit or just trying to protect biotech. it i think he's trying to protect by an attack because you know the companies develop these vaccines with a lot of public support and i don't see any reason why this would stifle innovation we're talking about a possible temporary waiver during global crisis in order to help the poorest

countries you have to remember that oxford developed and that seen and partnered with astra zeneca pfizer received hundreds of millions of dollars in public support so pharmaceutical companies will always importantly be able to continue to innovate i think this is really a show of solidarity and that i said earlier we've already see one patent from what happened and not being influenced and nothing is really changed. it's almost like a david versus goliath when poor nations would go to the world trade organization they would say when did it it will save lives by vend the goliath with reply back saying that you know what this is not going to be a magic bullet you're it's going to be a long way for you to acquire or the know how infrastructure to be able to manufactor a vaccine so how is it going to work out that of the world trade organization do

you think. you know or i'm one of them and you ain't can there i've been going to be a long winded bunch maybe we should. actually given you learn more in the back of the long winded maybe you should and we're going to relax and fuck you fire all know what ingles above is good or bad i think that is one of the meanings why it is that the ideas we will be can give me and we shall be able of the bad that would ringback be bad are to be seen how it works all goes just so you gotta make the announcement is going there still being there maybe but it could are the black wall which always by the start of the odd ball my knowledge you know. so what become either trying to say or what got me assigned it was a now all we allow to why they don't find it protected by the lack of water bridge

what do you buy the ally of eyes and i won't subject many that they got to be i have been given the book to be dinner with and they have to them all just the that already to the mind and the more out of me do you go back to use those technologies as you read our blog you want to hold a religion and maybe some do maybe go back to the wider community back and you know this is the will of. the longest running back which ok so i try to. get what it takes sometimes. confesses the love may be conscious then because since was thought to show about covalent a year ago the debate has always been about this disconnect between what the health community is aspiring to achieve and what the politicians broke down trying to to to work out and this is why i am trying to ask you this question what do you think should come 1st not the past and why eva or lifting of the export restrictions that countries like the ok on the us have been imposing for quite some time that would

allow for more doses to be flown to different countries immediately for people to be vaccinated. well we'd like in poor countries actually to help both of them i think it would be great but i think for the short term would love actually to see the u.s. and actually britain given up a lot of horses because i think the situation in their countries is much better and they think they could afford to do that when you see in the u.s. you have 17 millions actually those of us trust an account that they don't need either and they are not going to use them but they are just piling them i think we should give them up and middle term or long term i think it's very good to set up a precedent say and when there is a crisis and a pandemic everybody there is no place for patent because that when you talk about patents you're talking about money and we have an antecedent of that people forget that in the ninety's we had the same problem with south africa actually decided to

waive or to break down the patent for the drugs against. aids actually 3 if you had the i think it was very important that this question will come back every time but for us i think in countries like morocco we'd love to see both of them happy jeffrey how do you respond to those who are say the pretty much concern basically in the us that a patent waiver could end up in transferring some crucial critical sensitive technological information to countries that should not have it particularly china and russia. i'm not concerned about that so madonna isn't in force in the hand as mentioned but importantly you know the countries have already made the high income countries and already purchased the doses that they need some cases many times over could access purchased a large percentage of the deuces they're going to need so i think this is really an issue about allowing the vaccines to be exploited allowing the components to be

exploited and if other countries you know acquire the ability to produce and not emanate accedes i think that that's just a better situation for the world. india itself is a remarkable case the biggest producer of pharmaceutical products suddenly broke down with the covert 19 infections this desperate for the 1st of all of the lifting of the exports that was imposed by the americans desperate for the patent waiver what it what is it going to make for a country like india do you see a potential for a speedy recovery of the patent waiver is established if. you want managed that. it was just one of the entire of the world and you just want to see the inside of me. back and we were the subs and we have

we in this regard will be valuable because doing this and something will giving them as the government of 2 of those are giving what tools like compulsory life to the government so i mean. you're looking at this back fully independent of what happened as a dove did you know the nation by then they'll have. to be act like that but maybe you know the times and i learn a bit of it comes. to manage batch of the rack and all of that as a team and i work the phones and so i think the little steps that we need to date because we all need to watch what they do if in a minute or god resigned any day of the whole of the viewpoint watching it with the greater than that of the book you will be ok i think the let's be realistic

a when we say there's a path and way by the good thing in practical terms. to the way that takes place tomorrow how much time would it take a country like morocco to establish the manufacturing capacity the supply the supply chain to be able to deliver the vaccine on time for the people needing the vaccination. wow that's a great question no hashmi thank you with geoffrey said is true because modernizing was in force in the patent right beds and none of the countries the 60 countries that you're not trying to break waiver are actually doing a lot of manufacturing vaccine i think in the 60 countries that is still kind of countries that is south africa in the end a couple of other countries that they have the know how and the capability of the audit and they are pushing actually because they can do it right now but i think countries like morocco and others it will take time to do with it but i think we want to have this kind of precedent because it's great to have it because if we

have another pundit mic or it played in iraq will it be that we could be able actually to use it and to be able actually to manufacture this kind of piece jeffrey sometimes we tend to simplify things for just for the sake of of conveying the message but we're taught which comes to the patent to waver the industry itself is not just about that it's about the the plastic bags the filters the cell culture media the limpid none of particles the micro carriers you're talking about a set of sophisticated highly developed things they have to put together to be able to come to a manufacturer vaccine when it comes to those details how are you going to go around them to be able to say you know what i am willing and i will do it on time for all the people. that's exactly right this is when the president had delivered this is about this is a wake up call to the world that in an emergency during

a pandemic we are unable to produce the number of doses of an axiom that we need to for over a variety of reasons including acquiring all of those necessary components that you just listed out as well as the factories that can finish and fail including the ability to store the m.r.i. in a. very local temperatures in countries that don't have that kind of large scale refrigeration capacity so this is i think this is going to serve as the wake up call to the world that we need to do something about that production companies that have the technology and able to produce the doses fast enough and you know we haven't at least heard that there's been. rejections offers for military licensing and the countries are simply not able to produce the vaccines and i'm not sure that the waiver will really make a difference it needs to come together and stop blocking the export and this is

a component stop blocking the export of that scene that just an advertisement for new york that said you know comment ters are welcome to get back so that at their favorite sites clearly there are enough available doses in the u.s. there's does this need to get india brazil and other countries that need them. why sometimes unfortunately how to play by the boards of the international game but my question is this is it right for any country just because it's which to scoop up all the contracts when it comes to the vaccines when their neighbor just next door dying because they don't have any access whatsoever to. yeah i think it's just there and you know that this that that you know those long dust justifying the actual bottoms of them just to find a soul and still not dull and get on the dusty my way of sandals that is that of the argument which is why not the come after that you know we've invested so much

of. dying they manage the results and the sound of the technology more just to give it a read and it is a lot of them nor how it. will share that with them but that's the maybe the goal of all of that knowledge which they've been they have them that it's not that big that looked into being at all made a lot of them and you know which is what we have in the public doesn't buy we were getting would mean that yes we give them use when you can but the ease of it always that of they always mean but i don't read of those so for example on the your behalf of them to small i'm ok with their ads when used to that was didn't you get also this augment advance by many experts who would tell you that you know lots of countries in africa for example where a behind when it comes to the message on and i technology and therefore if we ought

to sort of. go for the patent way but there's absolutely no way that would be able to acquire the skills the technology they need to be able to manufacture particularly something similar to the 5 and well done of accidents. well i think for the basic technology hashim it's quite simple actually to do this kind of things even a bunch of the greased students could then stand this kind of technology and put them better think the proof of concept and the upscaling into the manufacturing causation will be difficult for these countries but we should start i think for the prasco with i'm not talking for countries in africa right now i think it would be difficult to have a torrent now but i think it's something that's we have to start right now maybe the pandemic will be longer for a simple reason and just talks about it because if we keep up the african countries from getting the vaccine and we saw what's happening in the you know we get violence and if we get viral and that's really scared the immunity or the worm and

all of this country will be playing catch 22 and would come back to square 0 and we get back to another pandemic so i think this countries should the really think twice before limits in access to this our case to the vaccines jeffrey for the time being what would be the earliest to see an additional capacity flowing into the global market if we start with the patent waivers and bear in mind that we're dealing with new. mutations and new variants coming into different parts of the world do you think that 2022 would be the ideal time frame for the capacity to be expanded. well the ideal timeframe is right now and i think 2022 is when we realistically see it kicking in and right now you know as was just mentioned there are there are 2 big issues one is the issue of variance of concern that are emerging like the recent declination in the u.k. and in the area and integration of concern and then there's the ongoing human

tragedy i think the world rather than discussing and focusing so much on a patent waiver that will be many many months under negotiation needs are going to how we can scale up on the question why only scale production faster and i just want a less than a minute if you don't mind how do you respond to those who a tell you that the patent wave is not going to work for the simple reason everyone who has cast is concerned this could set a precedent beyond vaccine so they'd rather see it dead now instead of being depicted across different sections of the world's economy. or all of them coming in cash and a lot of people off of the government. at the polling the government and the government or it wasn't part of the big. question that there are you know you. think that. oh i need here in the mail definitely or

certainly the bad news the lack. of the bad and the like. and the what's. well jeffrey la rosa swati how do you how don and i as a deal brahimi a really appreciate your insight thank you very much indeed for your contributions to the program and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website c.n.n. dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com all for was last a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is a jane side story from the entire team here in doha by phone now.

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