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he was giving voice to the voice that's here in california almost everybody the paycheck away from programs is to a few of the day. the picture looks like see from a different perspective on al-jazeera. the end. of the and. a relentless bombardment on gaza forces families to feed their homes while palestinian factions via hundreds more rockets into israel. this is al jazeera live from doha i'm fully back to the threat of a ground assault looms as israel sends tanks and troops to its border with gaza and dealing with the destruction of their homes the ordeal for gaza residents under
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attack. the only. hope is when they also on the program americans are told they can now unmask if they're fully vaccinated against the coronavirus. israel's bombarding gaza for another night ignoring international calls for calm and a rapidly rising number of deaths there's also the threat of a ground offensive as israel bullshits deployment of troops and tanks near the border with gaza hundreds of families are taking shelter in un run schools in the north of gaza of gaza to escape israeli artillery fire $109.00 palestinians including $28.00 children have been killed since the israeli offensive began on monday prime minister benjamin netanyahu is adamant the attacks won't stop until peace returns as a prisoner in. the hospital we will collect
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a very high price from hamas and the rest of the terrorist organizations and we will continue to do this with great force the last word has not been figured and this offensive will continue as needed in order to restore calm and face. to the state of israel or hamas has fired another barrage of $250.00 rockets towards israel in the past few hours hitting the city of ashkelon on thursday their rockets targeted tell it even a lot where all international flights have been diverted at least 7 people in israel have died since the conflict escalated and lebanese security sources say rockets have also been launched from southern lebanon towards israel a spokesman of hamas military wing says the group says cision to strike israeli cities was easy little both the decision to bomb tel of the jerusalem dimona ashkelon ashdod. and any cities before or after that from our occupied cities is
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easier for us than drinking water. is in gaza with the latest. the military wing of hamas some brigades. announced a while ago that they have launched a new project 100. 100 rockets to was ashkelon. and that's our. they said that this is you about ours came in response to the latest israeli raids on airstrikes that targeted civilians in the north of gaza strip. going back to that attack before we said that you have a blunt says we are not able to reach the north of gaza after that he was only the big wave of israeli attacks the local media now is reporting that. after reaching a lot of which is in the north of the gaza strip they managed to retrieve the body of a woman or
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a mother and have 3. sons. this is the latest regarding. the last israeli attack raid in the north of the gaza strip still it's back and forth every time we have. air strikes mediately we have a response retaliation from on groups in the gaza strip for the time being from what we can see it's quite impossible for the israeli. not from the technical point of view or the military point of view but still you know the ground operation needs lots of preparations needs lots of troops there israelis have not the floyd that enough number of times on troops for a ground operation yes there was misunderstood by the by the international media the huge wave the big wave of strikes and artillery and tanks because normally
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such attacks or such charades. cut it out in preparation for a ground operation. while the u.n. security council will meet on sunday to discuss israeli palestine conflict a proposal to meet on friday was rejected by the united states earlier president joe biden call for a significant reduction in rocket attacks but he said the israeli response was not an over reaction in while the u.n. secretary general antonio terris is calling for an immediate deescalation and cessation of hostilities was in jordan has more from washington. after 4 days of deadly violence between the palestinians and the israelis u.s. president joe biden is sticking with his calls for both sides to hold their fire the question is how. how we get to a point where they go to puri where there is a significant reduction in the attacks particularly the rocket
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attacks that are indiscriminately fired into population centers the biden administration had not made the israeli palestinian matter a top foreign policy concern mainly because of the covert 19 pandemic and the resulting economic slowdown analysts saying that was a mistake the team has not fully stepped out on the middle east it's adopted this posture that i think affected badly the obama administration as well which is this reactive tactical crisis management posture the white house has agreed to join an emergency un security council meeting on the crisis on sunday in the meantime it has sent a state department official to tell of eve to urge israeli and palestinian officials to declare a cease fire a point underscored thursday by u.s. secretary of state tony blinken but we are deeply concerned with the loss of life.
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among civilians especially among among children. the palestinians have a right to live in security and to live in peace just as israelis do and so. we are working hard to encourage all sides to stand down meanwhile in congress strong bipartisan support for israel but from democrats a show of support too for palestinians caught in the fighting there is a respect for meeting the needs of the palestinians but there is a palestinian half struggle and this is about how mosque so i wouldn't just label it palestinian i would say hamas and hamas is. threatening the security of people and israel israel has a right to defend itself from republicans accusations the u.s. has indirectly endangered israelis by trying to pursue
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a new nuclear deal with hamas as primary supporter iran if difficult to believe an american president would consider removing terrorism or missile related functions at the very moment iranian rockets are writing down on israel a sign of how challenging it will be for the biden administration to manage this sensitive part of its foreign policy rosalyn jordan al-jazeera washington. well i white house correspondent kimberly haokip sent us this update to she asks the press secretary jens psaki whether palestine and israel had equal rights to south defense all week the biden administration has repeatedly underscored in its public statements its belief that israel has a legitimate right to self-defense and has condemned the rocket attacks by hamas so on thursday at the white house press briefing i asked the press secretary
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whether the biden biggest ration also believes the palestinians have that same right to self-defense here's what she had to say. in the statement this policy they also have a right to sell an article for the attacks not coming from hamas to consider hamas the palestinian leadership let me rephrase the question you for heatedly in the statement damn right it does the white house does provide the ministration also down to the big. palestinians from the home but he does look into that in our readouts and certainly our national security adviser has raised and we have raised many levels the importance of. addressing the building in these in these communities and the fact that you know in order to move forward and move toward deescalation that's an important issue to address that has been that has come up i think we've got to move on and let you rather it's clear that democrats in
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washington have coordinated their message the top democrat in the house of representatives nancy pelosi giving a similar response however president biden is under increasing pressure from more progressive members of his own democratic party who are accusing him of blaming palestinians for the violence they now face when i saw speak to mohammed always was a palestinian american political analyst and he's joining us via skype. from washington mr always thank you very much for being with us on al-jazeera only looking at the situation tonight neither israel nor hamas shows signs of backing down what is your reading of the situation do you think it's going to get a not worse before there is any talk of a cease fire let me 1st comment on what the prime minister of the occupation force of israel was talking about the hamas terrorists practicing better isn't since
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948. these various are the ones who are the occupiers and they are dressers and the oppressors of the palestinian people is there and is apparent state supported by it better at least mine that government in the united states supporting this state of israel supporting it betters as peres and they had a practice in diplomatic peres against the palestinian people this is an international right that developed syrians are defending their land is it going to get much worse than this absolutely israel military and that is to make the unit when they pull a sin yes between that ever and this seat now all the israeli surface be a few by palestinian lands is not the important it is on fire people are supporting the people in the uk some more hand and i'll just run a neighborhood the ones that the settlers went over it plus they are going out on
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this speaks demonstrating in support of hamas and in support of the guys what do you think you know one of the only darity mr always is this support and show of solidarity that you talk about from other from other palestinian communities whether in the west bank or elsewhere is that going to be enough to change the situation on the ground. it is not only in the west bank it is all israel proper i call it. it is and haifa is and i puts on all the villages and not in palestine so all israel these are the people who will just prove to the israelis they are not israeli citizens they are palestinian citizens and state that is if there are state called israel the palestinians are a united people now in gaza and the west bank and. proper order what the so-called israel and around the world plus we have the support of many honest people in the
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world there is this if you will is for honest people not for terrorists it's people who are way out of land by force and dislocate people around the world the us so we are not worried and not would it be i'm not worried you know where insinuation of that you have got it ok let me just because you talked about diplomacy before and you know that the un security council meeting but not until sunday. what do you make of the international community's reaction when that the un in the us in particular you talked about palestinians having support from a lot of countries but they don't have the explicit support of washington and that's problematic isn't it. we never got support from washington before and we don't expect any support from washington now we believe clinton during the also accords and you and you personally interviewed me about this issue many times and
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we trusted them another but nothing was delivered to us to the palestinians i'm talking and i'm talking as a palestinian never was delivered to us israel have occupied more land and. more weapons to fight in a span of reaching out for peace remember that the israelis are the one who killed as have to represent the man who signed the peace deal with the palestinians victims and because you want to at least they will be arabs so when they come up with a leader who is willing to deal with us along a peaceful means and a long peaceful line with the americans we would welcome it but as long as they will continue to insist on up your patience we will insist on the resistance every palestinian resistance fight that now it's not fighting with guns we can also fight with our words by going down to the streets by doing our civic responsibilities
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that were the palestinian people who are being abused and filled by the israeli forces supported by the american government always thank you very much for taking the time sumptuously thinking your time thank you. priscilla head on al-jazeera a major fuel 5 grind resource in the u.s. after a cyber attack but panic buying persists. a day like no other we will never give up we will never get that shook us politics to its core your picture. faultlines examines the fallout i don't know what the hell happened to the republican party and asks what next for the grand old party everything i think or everything is prevent this is trumps party where the fire overtake the party will overtake the country faultlines capitol attack the
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knowing international calls for calm $109.00 palestinians that been killed since monday including 20 children i must meanwhile has fired another barrage of $250.00 rockets towards israel in the last few hours and bridges families are taking shelter in un run schools in northern gaza to escape israeli artillery fire mr nescio says the offensive want to stop until peace returns un security council will hold emergency talks on the conflict on sunday secretary general antonio terrorists has appealed for an immediate deescalation anticipation of hostilities al-jazeera spoke to. a resident in gaza who works for the norwegian refugee council he told us about having to flee his home after. i was in my house and go with my my wife. might be is own daughter and trying to convince ourselves that the safe to be at your house usually nothing more safe for us than you are.
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at 6 pm today they go. below my house. so i it was everything happen suddenly i had to flee my house very quickly usually we understand that when they're drunk ok it hit and i've a building means that it will lead to or on an airplane attack so i had to fear as much as i can. i didn't i could not take anything because i was just trying to deal with my terrified daughter i had to take care of my regnant wife trying to run away to next about men as as useless as god has also i can see that we are hoping that this is going to finish as soon as it can be any personally i'm wearing the only thing that i have and the only short that i have this is the 1st day of that this is my outfit for the. other 2000000 gazans are hoping that this is
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going to finish as much soon as they can. on the streets of ramallah in the occupied west bank many are upset the latest violence has coincided with the muslim holiday of 8. because we are not observing any celebration this as we all feel too sad about ways going on in gaza what saddens us more is what is going on in jerusalem especially the end of the holy month of ramadan the israeli occupation forces. and the festivities. from the summer legacy amid the nonstop shelling in gaza and the rising number of the fallen martyrs we cannot feel any joy for however we should observe our rituals it is a saddening situation but say not think and praise be to god. we pray to allah to accept the fall in his mercy and grant a speedy recovery to the wounded we hope the world can genuinely pause and think
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about the injustice done to us the world is turning a blind eye others are talking just standards however this cannot go on to the end of time it will change thanks to the will and fortitude of the palestinian people. the 1st american woman to be elected to the u.s. congress has accused her colleagues are funding what she calls israel's apartheid government. became emotional talking about those affected by the escalating violence in gaza i am a reminder to colleagues that palestinians do indeed exist that we are human that we are allowed to dream we are mothers daughters granddaughters we are just a seekers and our unapologetically about our fight against oppressions of all forms in colleagues palestinians aren't going anywhere no matter how much money you send to israel's apartheid government i want to read something a mother named the manama gaza wrote 2 days ago. she said quote tonight i put the
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kids to sleep in our bedroom so that when we die we die together. and no one would live to learn the laws of another when. the u.s. centers for disease control says people who are vaccinated against over 19 no longer need to wear masks in most places but is still advises masks in crowded settings like buses planes and hospitals nearly 59 percent of adults in the u.s. have received at least one dose of the cold 1000 vaccine the u.s. has been the worst affected country in the world john hendren has more from washington. for most indoor spaces you can go without a mask now under the c.d.c. guidelines if you have been vaccinated now this is largely to reward those people
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who have gotten vaccinated that's 111000000 americans of course those under 12 are not eligible but it's also an incentive to those who haven't been vaccinated and some of the concern is that about 30 percent of americans in polls have suggested that they won't get vaccinated at all this is a way of saying to them there are rewards for being vaccinated but it creates some issues for state and local governments they have to scramble now to come up with new rules because those rules haven't gone away the c.d.c.'s rules are just guidelines it is the state and local governments who actually come up with the rules but they are doing that right now j.b. pritzker the governor of illinois through a spokesman has issued a statement saying the governor firmly believes in following the science and intends to revise his executive orders the scientists message is clear if you're vaccinated you can safely do much more so the rules are changing here in the u.s. not fast enough for many conservative americans and of course there are for those
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who are immune deficient they'll still have to consult their doctor before deciding not to wear a mask but for anybody who wants to wear one they still can they can be safe and continue to wear them but millions of americans have been crying out for a change in these rules many of them are conservatives in congress who recently called the c.d.c. on the carpet for being too slow about this now we see the c.d.c. responding. in india several states are in urgent talks with vaccine manufacturers as a country faces an acute shortage in the face of record covered $1000.00 deaths in infections the government says it's hopeful more than $2000000000.00 additional jobs will be available in the country between august and december but it's facing criticism for its slow roll out on thursday india recorded more than 4100 deaths and more than 360000 infections. a south african report says the number of people who have died from corona virus could be more than double the official
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figure almost 55000 people are confirmed to have died but a study by south africa's medical research council has revealed they have been more than 157000 excess deaths in the past year it estimates 85 percent of those were coronavirus related. now greece is about to start welcoming tourists from the u.s. and european union so long as they are vaccinated or have a negative coverage $1000.00 tests the movies weeks ahead of the rest of the e.u. and comes at a time when the country is desperate for tourism related income john psaropoulos reports. corfu is one of greece's most popular islands for holidaymakers with 2 and a half 1000000 visitors here in 2019 the talk was about over tourism no longer last year's tourism revenue fell by 3 courses because of covert 19 and because tourism is the main industry 8 in 10 people were left unemployed and dependent on state aid many businesses have gone bankrupt lenny who cicle pool says she feels
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lucky to be able to reopen thailand i worry about going out of business i'm not optimistic this year a concert put the shop be expenses are really high i'm holding on by my fingernails now that he lost a whole season industry leaders here say they'll be lucky to reach just 45 percent of their $2900.00 income this year it's a different story on taxi just south of corfu the islanders managed to hold on to half their business during the worst of the pandemic last year and believe they'll do even better now that's because black sea was developed as a luxury destination in the 1970 s. when europeans started to build fillers here and then rented them out to other europeans to offset the cost it back she back sees a small island without hotels there are dealers and reentered apartments tourists trust because they don't come into contact name brought home and spaces the
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villages are clean and owners try to keep them disinfected stephanos for god knows who rents apartments says half his business is repeat tourism a level of loyalty hard to find on corfu there are 2 and a half 1000 residents on taxi and the authorities here say they have so far vaccinated about 2 thirds of the population compared to the national average of under 30 percent so this island is selling itself as a covert safe destination something larger tourism hotspots cannot do but see is. only doing well as a luxury just a nation the 4 month season keeps people in money the rest of the year such profits haven't gone unnoticed on corfu where a dozen $5.00 star hotels have gone up in the last 15 years coffee it's now seeking to cash in on those more expensive markets. we're at a turning point we depend on the british market for 40 percent of our tourism we're
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trying to attract new markets like china the united arab emirates kazakstan and azerbaijan we believe this is the future the trend towards luxury locals hope will ensure the son of asserts on greek tourism jump several close algis on corfu and boxee. us president joe biden says special surprise should return to normal in the coming days after the country's largest fuel pipeline network restarted their own oil pipeline was hit by a cyber attack last week causing a 6 day fuel shortage and soaring prices at the pump the firm reportedly paid hackers $5000000.00 in untraceable cryptocurrency as ransom radical hain has more from washington. a major oil pipeline shutdown the government told people not to panic it didn't work videos like these are all over social media prompting a government agency to warn this is a really bad idea the plastic will melt and bad things going to happen but all
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along the east coast people waited in long lines to get gas and some stocked up and any container they could find again bad idea but the panic could soon be subsiding the pipeline that was shut down after hackers infiltrated the computers of colonial pipeline has been restarted there are reports that the company paid almost $5000000.00 in ransom it continues to be the position of the federal government the f.b.i. that it is not in the interests of. the private sector for companies to pay ransom because it incentivizes these actions and president joe biden has sided executive order demanding that everyone selling software to the federal government has to meet certain cybersecurity standards but biden says he can't make private companies do the same private entities are in charge of their own cyber security and we need we have to we know we know what they need they need greater private sector investment in cyber security and that's why we launched
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a new public private initiative in april even with the oil flowing again it will take days or weeks to refill the tanks with half of all gas stations dry in georgia almost 70 percent in north carolina and almost 73 percent in washington d.c. as people continue to panic buy in more stations run dry reinforcing the idea that there is something to worry about regardless of what the government says is a very bad idea for a temporary problem al-jazeera washington. again i'm fully back to bill with the headlines on. israel is continuing its own body went to gaza ignoring international calls for calm $109.00 palestinians have been killed since monday including $28.00 children hundreds of families are taking shelter in un run schools in northern gaza to escape israeli artillery fire from mr
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benjamin netanyahu says the offensive won't stop until peace returns. as i don't believe moving the minimal force into we will collect a very high price from her mouth and the rest of the terrorist organizations and we will continue to do this with great force the last word has not been fed yet and the offensive will continue as needed in order to restore calm and safety to the state of israel. harassers fired another barrage of $250.00 rockets towards israel in the past few hours hitting a city of ashkelon on thursday their rockets targeted tel aviv and where all international fights have been diverted at least 7 people in israel have died since the conflict escalates its both the decision to bomb to leave you jerusalem dimona ashdod. and any cities before or after that from our occupied cities is easier for us than drinking water and the u.n. security council will hold emergency talks on the conflict on sunday secretary
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general antonio terrace has appealed for an immediate deescalation anticipation of hostilities in other news the u.s. centers for disease control says people who are vaccinated against covert 19 no longer need to wear masks in most places but is still advise is using face coverings in crowded settings such as buses planes and hospitals nearly 51 percent of adults in the u.s. have received at least one vaccine dose and in india several states are in urgent talks with vaccine manufacturers as a country faces an acute shortage in the face of record covered 19 deaths the government says it's hopeful more than $2000000000.00 additional doses will be available in the country between august and december but is facing criticism for its slow rollout you're up to date with headlines on al-jazeera news for you after the bottom line stay with us. hi i'm steve clemons and i have some questions
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is joe biden's plan to lift patent protections for corona virus vaccines really such a great idea and will it really get vaccines to billions of people around the world pronto let's get to the bottom line. when he was running for president last year joe biden promised to waive intellectual property protections for coronavirus vaccines then last week he actually threw his support behind an effort at the world trade organization to make it happen touching off a political firestorm at home for supporters of the idea it shows that washington understands the pandemic doesn't respect borders that the developing world needs help and that a crisis this great demands big efforts like waving ip to solve it for the critics they're wondering why biden would pull the rug out from beneath the innovator's of miracle vaccines produced in an amazingly short period of time they say this decision won't help people get vaccines more quickly and that there are lots of ways to globally produce distribute and deploy vaccines to the rest of the world without giving away intellectual property protections and to american trade
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protectionists it's blasphemy to give western secrets to medical producers in india china and russia of course it's not a done deal and many rich countries like germany oppose biden side so in the end is it just a symbolic move and what will the consequences be today we're getting 2 distinct perspectives on the debate in the 2nd half of the show we're going to be joined by the chief u.s. correspondent of the financial times at lewes but 1st we're talking to dr michelle mcmurray he the president and c.e.o. of the world's biggest biotech lobby known as bio the biotechnology innovation organization before that dr murray heath was a top executive at johnson and johnson michel it's great to be with you today look i think a lot of people are feeling pain and frustration as they see so many in india and around the world suffer with the ravages of cove it and in their minds big pharma firms which they see as making lots and lots of money are sitting on property rights that if they were extended could help relieve that pain and suffering and
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death around the world tell me how you feel about that equation. well let's start with the end goal everyone shares the goal of making sure we get as many code vaccines out to every corner of the world to every person who needs them as soon as possible we are in a race against kobe variants and so it's incredibly important not only that everyone get backs unaided but that we do it very very quickly know when to say until we are all safe this is uniformly shared amongst our companies and i think amongst the public health professionals around the globe where we differ as is 2 of the fastest way to actually get that done and what stands in the way right now between shops and more arms is not intellectual property many of our companies have licensed their technology to manufacturers around the globe i was recently in a conversation with the head of the vaccine manufacturing association in india and he was saying what we need is not more access to ip we have lots of the top leading
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back seen any factures licensed their technology to indian manufacturers but we can't get our hands on the raw materials because a well meaning steps like the defense protection act which is really stopped a lot of the raw materials needed to manufacture vaccines at the u.s. border preventing them from being exported out to others and the fact that the u.s. has been really demanding that the manufacturers reserve their supplies from the u.s. population 1st these are well meaning policies you can understand the incentives behind them and the logic behind them but now that we're facing a global crisis it's more important for us to share and that's actually why the biotechnology innovation organization has put together a group of proposals that would get us to the destination that we actually call share to really make sure we're sharing the raw materials as well as the backseats to everyone who needs them i want to hear more about that in just
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a moment but i but i would like to play a clip from dr titus gabriel the director general the world health organization who's commented on this i want to ask you about you know the ecosystem that has led to the generation of these vaccines and why he has the perspective he does both listen to dr every s's. we are on you not unprecedented crises that requires unprecedented action cases on a record high almost 100000 people are dying globally each week and we have a chronic buxom crisis the world trade organization provisions for ip we've designed precisely what a situation like this so michel i know that the w.h.o. director general understands that we've been through this period where there's been essentially
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a miraculous set of vaccine options that have been developed and you know very very short period of time and they were not through this tunnel what do you think is going on here what why you suggested share others have suggested a global marshall plan that would deploy this that that wouldn't touch intellectual property why are we looking at the intellectual property as the conveyor of vaccines as he describes it that you know some people argue could undermine that innovative ecosystem that's created all these options. well let's start with this premise that this these are unprecedented times that call for unprecedented action and that's exactly what you see from the manufacturers and the invaders you know in the 1st 13 months of this pandemic our company started over 960 research and development programs targeted at trying to you know prevent coded or stop code that we've seen the emergence of their picks and vaccines we talk a lot about the top 10 that are either not been approved or close to being approved
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but there are actually over 190 back scenes in development that kind of were best response to any public health emergency is exactly what we want to see and we don't want to do anything to undermine that response by shaking confidence and the ip system that has served us so well this is we need to make sure that we are handling this pandemic without undermining our ability to respond to the next pandemic because we never know when that will come so there's that 2nd i understand his frustration because he's been trying to stimulate global leaders to take part in kovacs which is a w.h.o. supported effort to universally of around the globe who resources from from wealthier countries use those resources resources to purchase back scenes at very low cost and then distribute them around the globe so that the poorest countries
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would receive kobe back scenes for free and yet what what he see is a lack of response our company our countries have not stepped up to the plate the biden administration took a huge step but i reversed in the previous administration's stance and actually pledging to participate in kovacs the u.s. had been absent from the table up to then and yet we've only paid half of our financial commitment to kovacs so we only pay $2.00 of the 4 $1000000000.00 the u.s. has pledged to help perch. so we need to really take part in our global commitment we need to step up to the table and help all of the countries that are in a position to help distribute vaccines around the globe and i think with the w.h. of the students in a car in auckland and saying ok if this is something that you care about that this is something that's important then you've left us no choice but to talk about it because we're trying to bring everyone to the table and thus far we failed so maybe
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it's a negotiating tactic on his part look i know that your background that you have worked in research labs you work at one of the largest pharmaceutical firms in the world johnson and johnson a lot of people listening to this show we're going to know astra zeneca johnson and johnson pfizer and these are the big firms and they see and feel that these firms are making you know lots of money in the middle of this crisis and that there's something that doesn't feel right about that one of the reason i want to talk to you is that i know that bio is comprised of small firms that are not receiving government money that are making investments in bets around that i'd love to get your perspective and tell that story because i think it's been neglected in the discussion about property rights and why would they do what they're doing if they didn't have you know a property right element in moving their assets and you know their intellectual assets to try to solve this crisis. all right so let's talk about 1st of all what some of the largest companies have done you know johnson and johnson has publicly
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pledged that they will sell their back seen at cost but is or has pledged that they will sell their exene at not for profit rates so you have the largest companies in our ecosystem really stepping forward and saying if you are we have the capacity to help we will but the small companies are the life blood of our innovation even foster has has partnered with a very small company by in touch to produce their backs seen and we have companies like madonna who are incredibly small but going to spend a mic started those 960 research projects i talked about 90 percent of them 90 percent of our global response to code it has come from our smallest biotechnology companies but a 50 percent of those companies are u.s. based because the u.s. has the investment ecosystem to drive that kind of response more covert research has been done in the us and then in the rest of the world combined because of our robust ecosystem that helps match innovators to investors and that's precisely
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because we have the ability to say you know the carrot for all of these efforts is the opportunity to purchase ants make your money back even though $9.00 out of 10 research and development programs in biotechnology fail so the odds are against you but at this point we're saying the deck is stacked against you if we also take ip out of the equation what happens in your view if a coven 20 comes down the pike cove a 20 meaning the successor coronavirus. pathogen that might might come along down the pike if something like an intellectual property wave wavers. protocol gets established. well we can almost turn the clock back and imagine what it would have looked like you know when we started those 190 coded bechstein projects there was absolutely no way to predict which of them would be successful in fact some of the
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front runners that we hoped would work actually did not pan out to be successful and so we need to have a huge set of bets paid placed in in if we have any hope of trying to combat a pandemic so when the next one comes i don't want the investors that need those 190 exene research and development programs possible to say you know actually i don't want to take that i don't think it's worth my investment it's not just about the scientists being committed to trying to find solutions it's not just about our companies being committed to the science into innovation it's also about the confidence of investors and so we need to maintain a company and we want to have the ability to respond further down the line we've run this nash this natural experiment already europe has really a roaded there biotechnology ecosystem over the last 30 or 40 years and we've seen that they have not been able to generate as much response to code as the u.s.
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companies so why are we going to repeat that mistake and sean i ask you to take your you know professional medical professional hat off for a minute and talk as a politician you know a global politician in gauging for there's my next guest at a loose when this announcer way tweeted out something very impressive he said you know this is going to be great for america's brand in the world this sends a signal that america is back that it's reengaged and after years of seeing that brand sink into a kind of narcissistic. position you know with with a lot of disregard that's why i've added a lot of words the tweet there but his point is it sent a signal about american concern for the rest of the world like nothing. else can do i'd like to hear your thoughts about that just very briefly and is there an alternative where america could send as equally a powerful message to the world that it really cares for the world and still kind
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of ride this interesting question about what to do with property rights. if america was truly back and america truly expressed their caring for the world we would be fully funding kovacs we would be leading and calling on other countries to fully fund kovacs we would be donating what is estimated to be an excess of 300000000 vaccines doses that we will have sitting around in excess in a few weeks to countries around the globe and we would be opening up our raw materials to make sure anyone around the globe who is licensed to produce a coma back scene would have been over 200 gradients they need to produce a single vaccine that is american leadership that is really saying let's solve this problem and as quickly as and as a mission as possible it does nothing to hand needy countries a recipe book with no ingredients the lack of manpower needed to really
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fuel and safely produce these vaccines and undermine not only these very fragile will supply chains for all of these $200.00 raw materials but then also to put the accountability and drop rate back in their laps and say here go take the 6 to 12 months it takes to stand up your own backs the manufacturing facility go find the raw materials that barely exist and good luck make it on your own we need to do more than that we are such a leading light in the world and we need to expect more of ourselves and we need to actively help or dr michelle mcmurry he's president and c.e.o. of the biotechnology innovation organization thanks so much for sharing your views with us today thank you for having me. now to get more perspective on the issue of patent waivers for the coronavirus vaccine we're joined by edward luce us national editor and columnist for the financial times based here in washington d.c. once upon a time edward was also the india bureau chief for the financial times as well and
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we know india is going through a bit of hell at this. moment on this very subject you have been positive about president biden's commitment to join those nations that want to waive intellectual property rights with regards to grant i respect seen particularly with regard to helping india and other developing nations that are real trouble do you think this is the solution. no no no single act the biden administration or its western partners takes is going to be the solution in and of itself but i think this is part of the solution which we can get into in a moment i do think it's a very important. politically symbolic and geopolitically symbolic gesture from the biden administration to the world to expect american leadership on this it is extremely rare if ever that you see an american president take on big pharma it just doesn't happen this isn't something that you get up in the morning as
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president and think oh that's easy i'll do that it just doesn't happen so the fact that i think he's been prepared to take on big pharma and do something that they don't want is going to be noticed and does send a very important signal of the seriousness of his intent right you wanted that intent and it does seem time and a fascinating article in the financial times this week you swatted him as well the president for not coordinating better with our european allies on this so what are you trying to hit and criticize on that element well the announcement last week was followed very quickly by irritation from i'm going to merkel from my manual my craw and from the european commission in brussels and i think what this indicated is not just that they have a more conventional stance on ip protection which are going to occur in particular . but that they haven't been in consultation with america's allies in europe on
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this the been a huge internal debate on this you mention in your introduction. biden promised in the campaign to wave p. on these vaccines so this shouldn't be a surprise but the devil is always going to be in the details and this is a global act this isn't just an autonomous american act it has to be. approved by consensus that the world trade organization which means that america's partners france britain germany the swiss a big pharma produce are going to need to be on side so i think there was a little bit of. there was probably a little bit of. absence of diplomacy and ground preparation by the biden administration you know there's been a lot of focus on big pharma just as you just shared there's also little farm as we just heard from dr mcmurray heath that the biotechnology innovation organization you know their little firms like grid stone which is involved in some oncology approaches which it has found useful in attacking the coronavirus in various
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efforts that they're making can be called a novio which is working on d.n.a. platforms to deal with h.p.v. virus deal with other brain cancer issues of what the kind that beau biden died from also finding a way to attack the coronavirus vaccine across a wide spectrum so when when small companies are hearing that their intellectual property rights may be waived. they may be waved across other efforts that they were making and these aren't government funded companies how do you feel about that dimension because i worry that these little firms are having the rug ripped out from underneath them after years of investment in work to try to develop things that would help mankind but it's not a you know it's not run by the government these are private firms you know the should be no theological position on intellectual property protection those are things that shouldn't be any you know clearly living in a different universe and those who think it should always be robust and draconian
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living in a universe most of us don't want to live in so clearly in the real world we're going to have tradeoffs between the incentives to and innovate the rewards you get from innovation but also on occasion such as this one and overriding public interest. in waiving property intellectual property protection the details of what biden is proposing are not clear if you look at the original demand from india and south africa that's a very sweeping the licensing they're proposing of not just sort of not just m.r. and a and. because more traditional vaccine but a much more sweeping across the board of all the equipment and ecosystems around them i don't think biden is proposing that and even if he were i don't think that's what would come through a. consensus building process so i think the companies that ought to be most concerned about whether this is going to hit their bottom line probably.
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and their big suppliers. you know i think that part of the framing of this is that some of those that who advocate waiving property rights see this as big companies trying to keep profits while lives are being lost and i think that framing is working for a lot of people in the world why do you think the alternative argument is. as compelling that these companies this ecosystem private public partnerships in really less than a year came up with miraculous vaccines many options in a remarkably short period of time and that's never happened before in history and so that's the alternative argument that doesn't seem to be selling as much as the other side of it and it's a good argument i would quibble with some of the details of it the miraculous this is built on a lot of public research as well as private sector innovation as is so often the case the national institutes of health. within the pentagon oxford university of
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course the other side of the atlantic many science bodies publicly funded science bodies and universities have been part of this giant effort to develop these vaccines and then of course there was operation was a spate which had very generous contracts just as regardless of whether the vaccines would cost regulatory approval that gave huge commercial confidence for these companies to ramp up then of course liability waivers so you know the idea that this is sort of pharmacies going to quit the genius in his garage just having a lightbulb going on in his head and now we're punishing him for being a genius is not really how this process works there are brilliant people in the private sector there are also brilliant people in the public sector funded by taxpayer money and taxpayers don't tend to claim patents you know at the end i have this famous spike protein that's
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a key part of the vaccine it gave it to me it didn't pay isn't it so the taxpayer is not getting any dividends from the shareholders of madonna and i i don't think that's balanced by taking on a global health emergency and you're one of the best observers are global affairs and america's place in the world that i know and just finally i'm interested this fact that you know as it looks like right now we're going to have a schism. with germany and france in one side maybe the americans and who knows on the other so this you know what the deputy oh is a consensus based organization so this may fall flat on its face while people continue to die in india and elsewhere around the world what should we do if in fact that intellectual property waiver effort by joe biden just gets stuck in a log jam what should we put on the table if that will lead to goes nowhere oh i think even if it does go somewhere we've got to put all of the above on the table and i agree with me show very strongly that the biden ministration should be
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putting a lot more into kovacs as should the europeans the should be an old. approach to this pandemic that involves taking a lot more seriously globally than we've seen so far and if the by administration stopped at this the 3b34b it's pledged to kovacs and the pledge to you for the trips waiver for vaccines then this would be a gesture. diplomacy it's got to be part of a much broader sort of tool kit of emergency measures most of which we've yet to see so i would agree with strongly on that point well edward luce us national editor for the financial times thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us today thank you it's a pleasure so what is the bottom line it's easy to see the issues of vaccine patents in black and white either you're on the side of the angels and want to give
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away intellectual property freely for the sake of humankind or you're on the other side this side of the devils and you value cold hard cash over human lives even in the middle of a pandemic that just keeps spreading but like many debates it's really not so simple if washington was interested in equitable vaccine distribution why isn't it doing more to get vaccines to poor countries why not announce today right now a global marshall plan for vaccines and do the play. duction in the air lifting in the mass vaccinations to every corner of the earth the world can't wait for a long world trade organization debate on patent protection the only thing we know for sure is that this pandemic with new variants erupting around the world is testing humanity in scary ways every single day and that's the bottom line.
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