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up and garza up and down israel where it has been quite a combustible situation we've seen one palestinian injured here that's one report that we're getting now just in the past half hour perhaps the past 60 minutes or so generally what happens in these low level areas of violence is that the violence dies down as the day comes to a close we'll update the headlines for you right now. let's recap all the main developments a wave of protests against the israeli occupation have swept across the occupied west bank there being confrontations between protesters and israeli police in at least 200 different places from hebron and bethlehem to now bruce and ramallah the police have fired volleys of tear gas and there are reports of live ammunition
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being used as well at least 10 palestinians have been killed by israeli security forces in the occupied west bank on friday and more than $400.00 wounded. there been fresh israeli air strikes on gaza including on the interior ministry at least $122.00 palestinians including $31.00 children have now been killed since the offensive began on monday al-jazeera suff what is in gaza. the israelis have intensified their attacks there was a reason. to fighting jets when they fired 7 heavy rockets on a compound called. and they had the building of the minister of interior in gaza according to the ministry of health they said no casualties there because these are most of the security and police stations have been evacuated from the 1st day of israel is collision on gaza. following this
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a. few rockets were fired from gaza into israel. just received these latest pictures of rockets being. i think it's probably. statistical significance the system will take. these are the latest pictures from gaza. clearly feeling confident enough to carry on with launching their missiles despite israel's best efforts to decrease their installations israel must must have a good idea where those hamas installations are on the smaller more mobile missiles according to military analysts that we've been talking to here they will be moving them around under cover of. up next inside story news hour after that.
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hello and welcome to the program i'm how much i enjoy him some call them the new face of activism against israeli occupation young palestinians and some israelis frustrated by their political leaders are making their voices heard. they've been at the forefront of protests against israeli airstrikes on gaza and the forced displacement of palestinians from their homes in occupied east jerusalem some smiled defiantly when arrested by israeli security forces much of it captured and shared on social media. messages of support from celebrities and social movements like black lives matter have been shared hundreds of thousands of times some activists posted graphics online to try to explain the history of the conflict and a video of the daily show host trevor noah reacting to the violence has been viewed more than 3000000 times if you were in a fight with the other person cannot beat you how hard should you
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retaliate when they try to hurt you i'm just talking about the difference in power which is something we do all the time i mean think about policing if a man has a knife should the cops shoot him in many parts of the world like in the u.k. they say well we're going to do everything we can to try and not shoot the person even at risk to ourselves because at the end of the day they were a knife to a gunfight. when you have this much power what is your responsibility. all right let's bring in our guests in occupied east jerusalem but in my 50 a palestinian activist who was arrested by israeli soldiers during the shift of the protests in brooklyn mariah kaplan spokesperson for if not now a movement of american jews working to end american jewish support for the occupation and in gaza now the shoah a humanitarian worker
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a warm welcome to you all let me start with you today there is a video showing you as you were being arrested by israeli security forces that went viral i want to play a few seconds of that for our viewers and then i'll come back to you with a question. i. think and it's going to be. later in the video we also see you looking at the camera and smiling defiantly as you are being detained so i want to ask you 1st what was going through your mind while all this was happening and also did you expect this to get the kind of reaction that it happens. no 1st of all i didn't expect expect this to get attention that it got i didn't know that last and in the 1st place. basically what was going in my mind is that i was so angry i was
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so angry because. what's happening in ships that are off is. is exactly what's happening in jerusalem and it's exactly what's what happens in palestine in general and what's happened in palestine in 1948 i was so angry because it's still happening until today. i was questioning him like why do this why should nice to go through this for more than 70 years now. so since 1948 palestinian and palestinians and penny stock is under an ongoing shaping of the land and it hasn't stopped yet it hasn't stopped stopped and since today and it's one stop and there is still an occupation so even if we were in the shoes of a cause that could be stopped in its attempts and it's in the end its occupation knows that when you see this kind of activism from a younger generation a palestinian activist that's emerging right now is getting so much attention in
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the media and on social media platforms when you see videos like the one that we just showed a few seconds of showing monday i'm smiling as she is being arrested very defiantly what does that make you think does that make you feel more hopeful for the future. well. to be on this show and we're not. of course with this video and very similar to the. it can't but bring the whole thing for the longest period i think we have lost we have we have we have been thinking. that we are talking to ourselves we are complaining to house. shouting and screaming and saying no this can't go on for longer as if we are talking to a long. and having to having this year a generation with this such and such an amazing that if it shows that this is
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a this is that true of this is when the truth has to be it has to be t.v. if if they can stay for ever generation after generation and when nothing is a say in. what happened before if it doesn't it doesn't work like this and finally they were in the lead to know the need to see it and for me as a palestinian living in gaza to see this. as if it's so it is so that if that if brings back some hope for sure so i want to take a moment take a step back and look at something that happened at the congress in the u.s. there were progressive democratic members of u.s. congress on thursday and they were responding to the ongoing conflict with some questioning of the u.s. government's unconditional support of israel as cyclists we must with no hesitation demand that our country recognize the unconditional support of israel has enabled
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the ratio of palestinian life and the denial of the rights of millions of refugees let me be clear every single death in this conflict is a tragedy every rocket and bomb that target civilians is a war crime. when you see what happened in congress when you hear progressive voices who are drawing parallels between the plight of the palestinians and the injustices faced by black americans they're also comparing israel's posture with apartheid era south africa what does that make you think does it do you feel as though in some ways public sentiment is shifting just the fact that we are hearing rhetoric from people in congress that we wouldn't really have heard just a few years back absolutely i think there is a huge shift underway and i think you know seeing. representatives fight on the
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house floor you know telling the stories of house to me in and of her family and these are the voices and stories that have been so systematically excluded and hidden from us and i think our politics are really being transformed by having an american woman in congress the 1st time and you know and i think as you said that sort of national and international reckoning that we are having about race and justice and. and you know i think we get young jewish people you know being sort of asked to apply that logic. you know try to you know we understand and here they were learning about the experiences of black americans. in this country and then we're being asked to not apply that logic in palestine and that's just something that you know we're not going to do anymore and that so many people are not willing to ignore anymore money whenever i've
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reported out of occupied east jerusalem or the occupied west bank or gaza in the past time and again i encounter palestinians who tell me how frustrated they are with palestinian political leadership and how ineffective palestinian politicians have been. let me ask you did you set out to be an activist i mean i see that you are a cellist with the palestine youth orchestra but you know is this really the only course forward to see any kind of change. first of all i'm a country. and this and that. no it's fine. basically we don't have anyone to present us as terrorists to me and this is really propaganda and as your enemy media is really powerful nobody would tell the stories
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of palestinians or. us palestinians living in israel or in jerusalem for example what's happening in cheers or is is just an ongoing thing that happens every day in gerson and the israeli minister ministry of interior sets its demography go on for jerusalem at 70 percent 80 this needs getting the growing number of palestinians to move out of the city since 1967 until today hundreds of thousands of palestinians were displayed displaced by how by ways of house demolitions discriminatory policies and other different different ways so . so basically from the beginning that implemented colonial policies of displacement land confiscation and other ways and but despite despite all the difficulties we as palestinians from to jerusalem go through to get out of here
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most palestinians choose to stay and stand up for the right and dignity and future . earlier today i saw that you tweeted i'm very lucky i could sleep for 3 continuous hours north and east gaza experience hell last night i want to ask you what is the situation there like right now. i don't know if you heard the explosion but. the situation has been extremely tense we have experienced 2014 and what that was before it. i don't know trying to describe. it's hard but to put that and maybe in a 2nd in the simple way you are talking about a continuous form by men. of waves. continuous drawn fire fights fighter jets navy tank shelling that started night and contributed to the deaths i was defending
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to specially in the areas of east the north of gaza city and the north of the gods strip. which i mean all of my friends and the people i know about. i know of and i'm communicating with we would just through the night trying to check on them and what broke and what didn't break and what this being the steroid who is the ski thing that home and all of that i mean that anxiety that panic that people read and read telling me that seeing from the own windows people needing their homes and evacuating that awning seeing the bombings the rumors that the also kept on spending at on the internet and among people of ammo with the one of these bomb this from violent this heavy. that deflates was that.
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to me if they think it's the troops i get think and this and if that in theory was denied and nothing happened now. that means that he of this is that it happened before and each time if it happens with. certain level of of of intensity i even thought of a sentence i don't know if it'll make sense but war doesn't have a limit it has thresholds and each time there's a certain threshold that gets that if it's moved it's next symbol you know and it keeps on going off on and off so whenever somebody calls me and say how are you doing i tell them i'm fine because i know that that is always less and there's always a rare situation and however this teaches us that things can go much much worse and the more people you know what effect that of have left their homes
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a lot evacuated will have now sitting out in the nowhere and just that and i'm not a public place order or a school. and i know many of them was unfortunately and they have no idea what's going to happen next. however this this time these these these very difficult hours what is important is that we keep ourselves sane mentally sane within within the house me and my my 2 daughters and my husband that's what about to be dealt with go on because this is such a such a big majority is difficult for mariah the stated mission of your organization is trying to build a movement of jews to in the israeli occupation what steps need to be taken in order for that to happen. well i'll say our mission is actually to and well i mean me occupation is a worthwhile mission ours our goals are more humble and that we're trying to end our community support for the occupation and really end the orthodoxy in our
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community that says that jewish safety is reliant on palestinian suffering and we see that as an important step given how often jewish safety is cited as the reason for our government's complicity. in the occupation enough in upholding the systems of apartheid in israel and you know we are building decades of jewish progressive organizing impulse in organizing on this issue and are really trying to do our part so that our community can be on the right side of this issue let me ask you is palestinian leadership hearing these demands for change. basically. nobody i don't think is anybody getting like from the neither ship or it's. going to. like human rights organizations and what about i think what's who is that egypt individual in it like it's done by
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individuals so basically the ones who started the movement and started the world are what are what we're doing and what's happening in jerusalem what's happening in. people the new and neighborhood offset of the. accords they used to along with them weapon that we have. social media. we use that as a way for us to express ourselves to reach the ones on the we're to city each city limits around the world and it's to this weapon is they are trying to take us to take it away from us so coasts and accounts that tweet. meet or talk about pakistan and that story's been deleted so basically no one presents us from governments. what we do is on the
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individualistic we do it's by i would let me ask you a follow up questions you know because so much of this is being shared so widely you have a lot of people who don't typically engage in politics and they're widely sharing info graphics and videos that are expressing solidarity with the palestinians what i'm curious about is do you believe that this type of activism some people call it hash tag activism but do you believe that this type of activism you know on these social media platforms is actually leading to a deeper kind of engagement on the issues. before before this time before. what's happening today. before like in 2009 houses in. where displaced and settlers took these houses and until today they are still living in these houses before the news would talk
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about what's happening in shifts but they still could make it because nobody knew about it judy my protest in shifts and i met a girl from another city in pakistan and i told her i hoped what happened in 2009 which we didn't want to happen again and she didn't know what happened in 2009 because. didn't reach her because. israeli media is really powerful israeli propaganda israeli poet for our needs our stories couldn't reach anyone in the world today our news our songs our shouts reaching many people around the world because we are the producers of our story we produce the story we take the photos we took take the footage we take these stories and share them to the world and this is why they started fighting against our stories and fighting
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against our ports i do believe that because we could share our stories very widely and share our voices that he widely i do have hope that. that we will win the case in shifts but winning the case in chief doesn't mean when ending the occupation because what's happening in egypt isn't on the happening in egypt it's happening in the rest of the occupied territories and the rest of and stein nodding along to a lot of what merriam was saying there so i wanted to see if you had a reaction you wanted to add and i also wanted to get from your perspective your reaction would you believe that this kind of activism that we're seeing playing out you know in so many social media platforms right now is actually going to lead to a deeper engagement when it comes to discussing these issues. well i just star i mean i think what mary was saying about you know it's it's right now focuses on shifter out but solving the crisis in chapter is not going to end the occupation or
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end systems of apartheid and i think that's something that we're trying really trying to lift up in our organizing around this and i think so often and what's very frustrating is so often it's described as i slighted in some cases of violence or you know a conflict between 2 equal partners and that's just not the case and that is completely decontextualized and as both national and marian has said it totally misses kind of the reality on the ground and it also ignores the fact that you know the tools that israel is using are furnished by the united states many of them by united states government you know our government gives $3800000000.00 of military aid to israel every year and so you know there those are u.s. bombs and u.s. fighter jets that are flattening you know whole buildings and it's u.s. diplomatic backing that is trying to you know shield. the settler enterprise
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settlement enterprise from any consequences and so i think and i was really touched by what mary said about you know that being the producers of your own story and i do think that's really important again because as i said you know similar to representative slave sharing on the house floor you know these stories have palestinians and what palestinians have experienced at the hands of you know all this israeli violence and. this campaign to expand jewish supremacy that has been ongoing for decades and and and that americans have to listen to those stories and so i think it's really important that people are seeing that i think haitian media has made that much more accessible and i think that people. now you know if i may i'd like to ask you a little bit more of a personal question you know one of the more horrifying aspects of all of this is
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the fact that children are continuing to die as an aid worker as a humanitarian worker as a mother how does that make you feel to continue seeing that play out in gaza. well of course it's. we live here at all our lives and the. movie i would have picked up on 1st. light on the outset of the 6 and a half hour in 2014 while i was pregnant with her that's maybe started initially then. now with this new chapter where she understands and asks a very difficult although the innocent that's made the fickle questions how can i protect her physically that there's something of course a limit to what we can do however how can i protect her brain her mental health their well being or how how she is raised as
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a human above all but somebody who understands also what's wrong and what is right and what is just and what is injustice that's how are her parents and her grand prix parents lived and so on and so on the problem is that how in the challenge that i get is that how can i give her whole now only only these couple of days this fight how challenging of our buying they are and what fears i personally have now and today. of what may come next how tonight will be. or to law or home for the with or beyond in the coming weeks what is the balance that you can do as a parent that you can keep. to keep them sane and human but also teach
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them the problem why why is this happening i mean you know with these 2 dates and the mentions that the amount of engagement down the road and it feels a bit different to me feels a bit different that not not only the the kind of quick support you know sending messages hope you're all right stay safe we're on the other side it's much deeper than the split is more important is what's happening in palestine all of it and around it even a change joy than or levanon what we're seeing today in the us that this is like everyone is awake that this is wrong and it should stop so i i have some hope however i know i'm also realistic that this kid that's the on it will not change in a day or in a 2nd or that i hope that my daughters wait have
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a chance to. have to live a more less kind of traumatized experience and and be just ordinary human being and it's all right well we have run out of times we're going to have to leave the conversation there thank you so much to all of our guests madea my fifi mariah kaplan and showa and thank you too for watching you can see this in all of our previous programs again any time of visiting our website of 0 dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story for me my mage i'm doing the whole team here bye for now.
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