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the test will be silence and if the 1st people will be silence and squares are swept empty and the streets are empty again we can hear the echo of the force of the people that call for change and a father to us are comforting for an echo that will continue to resonate. everywhere we have birds and humans. and emotional experiences that fast and al-jazeera are. alright let's just have a quick update the headlines here are not there and palestinians in gaza have what cannot 2 heavy artillery fire from israel overnight a refugee camp was hit by an israeli airstrike killed at least 10 people including 8 children. i think if it's my cousin's house we were surprised by an airstrike that hit the house without any warning we ran outside we saw the 4 story house get completely demolished it was completely leveled he sustained kids were visiting
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they were all killed all of them. like i was also what is the missiles hit in the windows got shattered there was glass all over and it hit our head we got wounded we started running barefoot and my sister left all our belongings behind. we are still trying to recover more bodies and figure out who is who this is truly a massacre that cannot be described in words the only survivor from that family is this little baby we don't know how he managed maybe he just stayed alive to be a witness of what happened to the rest of his family. where at least 11 palestinians have been killed during protests that swept across the west bank on friday confrontations between israeli police and palestinian demonstrators continued into the night in occupied east jerusalem. demonstrations are expected to be held around the globe in support of the palestinian people and this is the scene in sydney in australia where a vigil is being held to protest against israel's actions and hundreds of people
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held a rally in southern lebanon near the border with israel on friday one person died after being struck by israeli fire. on the news in india's tourist hub of go at least 75 patients have reportedly died due to a lack of oxygen in the top state run hospital over the past 4 days the high court is criticize the government and senior hospital officials for saying logistical problems in connecting austin cylinders may have caused some kinds of casualties and outspoken supporter of former us president donald trump has been elected to a senior leadership role in the republican party you your congresswoman at least stephanie was voted in as house conference chair where she replaces liz cheney who was voted out for her recent criticism of the former president all right you have more news coming up here on out there right after inside story from the. talk to al-jazeera we are. we were attacking running again and now they're attacking
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everyone in myanmar do you regret words like that we listen. to the woman it would be great we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on al-jazeera. young and frustrated by the israel palestine conflict a new generation is protesting with defiance and speaking up on social media but our leaders hearing their demands for change this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm how much in june some call them the new face
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of activism against israeli occupation young palestinians and some israelis frustrated by their political leaders are making their voices heard. they've been at the forefront of protests against israeli airstrikes on gaza and the forced displacement of palestinians from their homes in occupied east jerusalem some smiled defiantly when arrested by israeli security forces much of it captured and shared on social media. messages of support from celebrities and social movements like black lives matter have been shared hundreds of thousands of times some activists posted graphics online to try to explain the history of the conflict and a video of the daily show host trevor noah reacting to the violence has been viewed more than 3000000 times if you are in a fight with the other person cannot beat you how hard should you retaliate when they try to hurt you i'm just talking about the difference in power
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which is something we do all the time i mean think about policing if a man has a knife should the cops shoot him in many parts of the world like in the u.k. they say well we're going to do everything we can to try and not shoot the person even at risk to ourselves because at the end of the day they brought a knife to a gunfight. when you have this much power what is your responsibility. all right let's bring in our guests in occupied east jerusalem many of my 50 a palestinian activist who was arrested by israeli soldiers during the shift of the protests in brooklyn mariah kaplan spokesperson for if not now a movement of american jews working to end american jewish support for the occupation and in gaza now the shoah a humanitarian worker a warm welcome to you all let me start with you today there is
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a video showing you as you were being arrested by israeli security forces that went viral i want to play a few seconds of that for our viewers and then i'll come back to you with a question. i. think it's going to be. later in the video we also see you looking at the camera and smiling defiantly as you are being detained so i want to ask you 1st what was going through your mind while all this was happening and also did you expect this to get the kind of reaction that it happens. no 1st of all i didn't expect expect this to get the attention that it got i didn't know that last and in the 1st place. basically what was going in my mind is that i was so angry i was so angry because. what's happening inches that off is. is
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exactly what's happening in jerusalem and it's exactly what's what happens in palestine in general and what's happened in palestine in 1948 i was so angry because it's still happening until today. i was questioning him like why do this why should nice to go through this for more than 70 years now. so since 1948 palestinian and the palestinians and palestine is under an ongoing shaping of the land and it hasn't stopped yet it hasn't stopped and said today and it's one stop and there is still an occupation so even if we win this is a cause that could be seen once top in its attempts and it's in the end its occupation knows that when you see this kind of activism from a younger generation a palestinian activist that's emerging right now is getting so much attention in the media and on social media platforms when you see videos like the one that we
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just showed a few seconds of showing monday i'm smiling as she is being arrested very defiantly what does that make you think does that make you feel more hopeful for the future. to be on this show and. of course with this video and very similar to the phone it can't but bring the whole for the longest period i think we have lost we have we have we have been thinking. that we are talking to ourselves we are complaining to house. shouting and screaming and saying no this can't go on for longer as if we are talking to a long. and having to having this year a generation with this such and such an amazingly that if it shows that this is
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a this is that true of this is when the truth has to it has to be t.v. if if they can stay for a generation after generation and when nothing is a say in what's happened before if it doesn't it doesn't work like this and finally the world need to know the need to see it and for me as a palestinian living in gaza to see this is as if so it is so that is that if things back some hope i'm sure so i want to take a moment take a step back and look at something that happened at the congress in the u.s. there were progressive democratic members of u.s. congress on thursday and they were responding to the ongoing conflict with some questioning of the u.s. government's unconditional support of israel as cyclists we must with no hesitation demand that our country recognize the unconditional support of israel has enabled the ratio of palestinian life and the denial of the rights of millions of refugees
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let me be clear every single death in this conflict is a tragedy every rocket and bomb that target civilians is a war crime. when you see what happened in congress when you hear progressive voices who are drawing parallels between the plight of the palestinians and the injustices faced by black americans they're also comparing israel's posture with apartheid era south africa what does that make you think does do you feel as though in some ways public sentiment is shifting just the fact that we are hearing rhetoric from people in congress that we wouldn't really have heard just a few years back absolutely i think there is a huge shift underway and i think you know seeing. representatives fight on the house floor you know telling the stories of house to me ends and of her family and
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these are the voices and stories that have been so systematically excluded and hidden from us and i think our politics are really being transformed by having an american woman in congress the 1st time and you know and i think as you said that sort of national and international reckoning that we are having about race and justice and. and you know i think we hit young jewish people you know we're being sort of asked to apply that logic. you know try to you know we understand and here they were learning about the experiences of black americans. in this country and then we're being asked to not apply that logic in palestine and that's just something that you know we're not going to do anymore and that so many people are not willing to ignore any more money whenever i've
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reported out of occupied east jerusalem or the occupied west bank or gaza in the past time and again i encounter palestinians who tell me how frustrated they are with palestinian political leadership and how ineffective palestinian politicians have been. let me ask you did you set out to be an activist i mean i see that you are a cellist with the palestine youth orchestra but you know is this really the only course forward to see any kind of change. first of all i'm a country nothing and this and that. no it's fine. basically we don't have anyone to present us as terrorists to me and this is really propaganda and as our enemies the media is really powerful nobody would tell the stories of palestinians or. us palestinians living in israel or in
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jerusalem for example what's happening in ships is is just an ongoing thing that happens every day in gerson and the israeli minister ministry of interior sets its demography go on for jerusalem at 70 percent is your reading this needs getting the growing number of palestinians to move out of the city since 1967 to today hundreds of thousands of palestinians were displayed displaced by how by ways of house demolitions discriminatory policies and other different different ways so. so basically from the beginning that implemented colonial policies of displacement land confiscation and other ways and but despite despite all the difficulties me as palestinians from to jerusalem go through to get out of here most palestinians choose to stay and stand up for the right and dignity and
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future. earlier today i saw that you tweeted i'm very lucky i could sleep for 3 continuous hours north and east gaza experience hell last night i want to ask you what is the situation there like right now. i don't know if you heard the explosion but. the situation has been extremely tense we have experienced 2014 and what that was before it. i don't know trying to describe. it's hard but to put that and maybe in a 2nd in a simpler way you are talking about a continuous form by men. of waves. continuous drawn fire fights fighter jets navy tank shelling that started night and contributed to the head that i was defending
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to specially in the areas of east the north of gaza city and the north of the gods strip. which i mean all of my friends and the people i know about. i know of and i'm communicating with we were just through the night trying to check on them and what broke and what didn't break and what is being destroyed who is the ski thing that home and all of that that anxiety that panic that people were and were telling me that seeing from their own windows people needing their homes and evacuate thing that awning seeing the bombings that of also kept on spending at on the internet and among people of a lower than one of these bomb this from violent this heavy. that deflates was that. to me i. think it's the troops i get
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think and this and at that in the it was was late that night and nothing happened now. that means that he of this is that it happened before and each time if it happens with. certain level of of intensity i even thought of the sentence i don't know if it'll make sense but a war doesn't have a limit it has thresholds and each time that is a certain threshold that gets that if it's moved it's flexible you know and it keeps on going off and off so whenever somebody calls me on the how are you doing on funny because i know that that is always less and there is always a rest situation and however this teaches us that things can go much much worse and the more people you know what effect that of have left their homes a lot evacuated well i'm now sitting out in the nowhere and just that and i'm at
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a public place or the other school. and i know many of those unfortunately and they have no idea what's going to happen next. however this this time these these these very difficult hours what is important is that we keep ourselves sane mentally sane within within the house me and my 2 daughters and my husband that's what about to be dealt with both because this is such a such a big majority feels different from mariah the stated mission of your organization is trying to build a movement of jews to in the israeli occupation what steps need to be taken in order for that to happen. well i'll say our mission actually. well i mean me occupation is a worthwhile mission ours our goals are more humble and that we're trying to end our community support for the occupation and really end the orthodoxy in our community that says that jewish safety is reliant on palestinian suffering and we
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see that as an important step given how often jewish safety is cited as the reason for our government's complicity. in the occupation enough in upholding the systems of apartheid in israel and you know we are building decades of jewish progressive organizing impulse in organizing on this issue and are really trying to do our part so that our community can be on the right side of this issue maybe let me ask you is palestinian leadership hearing these demands for change basically. nobody i don't think is getting like from the neither ship or it's. going to. like human rights organizations and what about i think what's who is that egypt individual in it like it's done by
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individuals so basically the ones who started the movement and started the world or what are what we're doing and what's happening in jerusalem what's happening in terms of the people the new and neighborhood offset of the one and could. could they used along with an weapon that we have seen social media. we use that as a way for us to express ourselves to reach the ones on the we're city each city limits around the world and still in this weapon is they are trying to take us to take it away from us so coasts and accounts that's to. we meet or talk about this time and that story's been deleted so basically no one presents us from governments organizations what we do is on the
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individualistic we do it's by i would let me ask you a follow up questions you know because so much of this is being shared so widely you have a lot of people who don't typically engage in politics and they're widely sharing info graphics and videos that are expressing solidarity with the palestinians what i'm curious about is do you believe that this type of activism some people call it hash tag activism but do you believe that this type of activism you know on these social media platforms is actually leading to a deeper kind of engagement on the issues. before before this time before. what's happening today. before like in 2009 houses in. where displaced and settlers took these houses and until today they are still living in these houses before the news would talk about what's happening in shifts but they still could make it because nobody knew
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about it during my protest in shifts and i met a girl from another city in pakistan and i told her i hope this is what happened in 2009 which we didn't want to happen again and she didn't know what happened in 2009 because the didn't reach her because. israeli media is really powerful israeli propaganda is really poet for our needs our stories couldn't reach anyone in the world today our news our songs our shouts reaching many people around the world because we are the producers of our story we produce the story we take the photos we took take the footage we take these stories and share them to the world and this is why they started fighting against our stories and fighting against our ports i do believe that because we could share our
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stories very widely and shero it worse is that a widely i do have hope that. that we will win the case in shifts but winning the case in chief doesn't mean when ending the occupation because what's happening in egypt isn't on the happening in egypt it's happening in the rest of the occupied territories and the rest of his telescope and stein nodding along to a lot of what merriam was saying there so i wanted to see if you had a reaction you wanted to add and i also wanted to get from your perspective your reaction would you believe that this kind of activism that we're seeing playing out you know in so many social media platforms right now is actually going to lead to a deeper engagement when it comes to discussing these issues. well i just star and mean i think well mary was saying about you know it's it's right now the focus is on ship her out but solving the crisis in chapter is not going to end the occupation or end systems of apartheid and i think that's something that we're
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trying really trying to lift up in our organizing around this and i think so often and what's very frustrating is so often it's described as i slighted in some cases of violence or you know a conflict between 2 equal partners and that's just not the case and that is completely decontextualized and as both national and marian has said it totally misses kind of the reality on the ground and it also ignores the fact that you know the tools that israel is using are furnished by the united states many of them by united states government you know our government gives 3800000000 dollars of military aid to israel every year and so you know there are those are u.s. bombs and u.s. fighter jets that are flattening you know whole buildings and it's u.s. diplomatic backing that is trying to you know shield. the settler enterprise settlement enterprise from any consequences and so i think and i was really touched
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by what mary said about you know that being the producers of your own story and i do think that's really important again because as i said you know similar to representative leave sharing on the house floor you know these stories have palestinians and what palestinians have experienced at the hands of you know all this israeli violence and. this campaign to expand jewish supremacy that has been ongoing for decades and and that americans have to listen to those stories and so i think it's really important that people are seeing that i think social media has made that much more accessible and i think that people. now you know if i may i'd like to ask you a little bit more of a personal question you know one of the more horrifying aspects of all of this is the fact that children are continuing to die as an aid worker as
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a humanitarian worker as a mother how does that make you feel to continue seeing that play out in gaza. well of course it's. we live here and all our lives and the. movie i would think the 21st. night on the 3rd of the 6 and a half hour in 2014 while i was pregnant with her that's maybe started initially then. now with this new chapter where she understands and asks a very difficult although very innocent that's made the fickle questions how can i protect her physically that there is something of course a limit to what we can do however how can i protect her brain her mental health their well being or how how she is raised as a human above all but somebody who understand also what's wrong and what is
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right and what is just and what is injustice that's how are her parents and his grandparents lived and so on and so on the problem is that how in the challenge that i feel is that how can i give her whole now only only these couple of days this fight how challenging of our buying they are and what fears i personally have now and today. of what may come next how tonight will be. or to long for that with oil or beyond in the coming weeks what is the balance that you can do as a parent that you can keep to keep them sane and human but also teach them the problem why why is this happening i mean you know with these 2 dates and
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the mentions that the amount of engagement i downed the world and it feels a bit different to me feels a bit different than not no. only the the kind of quick support you know sending messages hope you're all right stay safe we're on their side it's one state for them to split this lot important is what's happening in palestine all of it and around it even a change join that in order to leaven on what we're seeing today in the us that this is like everyone is awake that this is wrong and it should stop so i have some hope however i know i'm also realistic that this kid that's the on it will not change in a day or in a 2nd or that i hope that my daughters wait have a chance to. have to live a more or less kind of traumatized experience and and be just
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ordinary human being and it's all right well we have run out of times we're going to have to leave the conversation there thank you so much to all of our guests muddy my feet mariah caplan and showa and thank you too for watching you can see this in all of our previous programs again any time of visiting our website of 0 dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story for me my mage i'm assuming the whole team here by for now. counting the cost the return of fake government trillions in spending in the rich world but without super charged inflation stifling the economic recovery and
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