including criminal association 2 rebellion and attempted murder. police in el salvador have discovered 10 bodies at the home of a former officer hugo saudi oh chavez aside it was arrested last week for killing a woman and her daughter the bodies of 7 women and 3 children then found during a raid on his property he's being investigated for sex crimes and a total of 13 murders warrants have been issued for 9 other suspects. all right i says have a quick recap of headlines here on al-jazeera and israeli airstrikes on gaza a continuing for a 7th day 2 brothers who were trapped in the rubble of one of the buildings hit by those strikes have now sadly died they managed to call rescuers for help and were pulled from the rubble but both died a short time after arriving as people say 3 other bodies have been pulled from the rubble a 3rd of those were all from one family 191 palestinians have now been killed in

the enclave that includes 52 children i must find out now that we ran out of the house after the air attacks and our house was bombed we fled to the school the man told at the smoke from the bomb is poisonous we don't know what the poison is and we are know that the thick smoke after the explosion was very child can understand what is the space be done in it we were sitting safely at home we didn't hear a warning rocket our house got hit violently why why why do they bomb houses in their residence. all these pictures from a short time ago in ashdod in israel rocket landed on the beach after a sustained period of fire from gaza the same time we're seeing new explosions in gaza itself. it him has more from ramallah in the occupied west bank. for palestinians in the street then indeed for some of the protesters we've been speaking to in the last few days they don't even turn on their t.v.'s to watch was

going on in these meetings such as the old a c o i see because they believe that they've had condemnations they've had enough from condemnations from these organizations and they don't see anything when it comes to that reality living under occupation changing we've been asking many palestinians about their views about the arabs and they say that they believe that the arab nations are with them and their hearts are with the palestinian people but when it comes to some of these weak genes and we've seen lately some countries normalizing relations with israel they believe that these regimes have an interest to. have relations with israel for ministers from the islamic world to holding an urgent meeting to discuss the situation while postpone for a minute to push the international community to put an end to israel's military operation. inside story coming right up.

is a 3rd intifada on the way some are warning of a new palestinian uprising as dozens are killed in israeli airstrikes and mob violence triggers talk of civil war so can this tension be contained this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm hamad jim jhoom the word intifada is often used to describe mass palestinian uprisings against israel 2 such events have

happened in the past each lasting several years both were fueled by simmering anger at israeli occupation and oppression and right now some see the beginnings of a 3rd one. israel is intensifying airstrikes on gaza killing dozens of palestinians every day the latest victims include children and their mothers in a refugee camp funerals often turn into mass demonstrations armed groups in gaza including hamas are retaliating by firing thousands of rockets into southern israel and in an unprecedented escalation jews and palestinians living side by side are turning on each other in mixed cities across israel mobs attacked homes synagogues and muslim cemeteries israel's president is warning of civil war on top of all this palestinians are marking nakba day to remember when tens of thousands of them were forcibly displaced as israel was created back in 1988 the day but i hear reports

from the mandala in the occupied west bank. many palestinians have been telling us over the past days that they are protesting because they believe that the next combat is still ongoing it's not just an incident that happened 73 years ago but that all of what happened over most of what's happened in 1948 is still ongoing now when it comes to palestinians lives under occupation the lab grabs there is nobody gets ready sustenance the secular attacks that are intensifying against palestinians the house evictions so you name it so for many tossed in this day not just remind them of what happened 73 years ago but it's it's it's it's good it reminds them that they are still living under the circumstances this is why many protesters are taking to the streets of different cities in the occupied west bank

the 2 previous palestinian uprisings took place in the late 1980 s. and early 2000 the 1st intifada lasted 4 years and began in the gaza strip in december 1987 it was largely a series of spontaneous protests about 2000 palestinians were killed by israeli forces all more than 200 israelis died a 2nd intifada started in the occupied east jerusalem in september 2000 and quickly spread to the occupied west bank israel launched airstrikes and sent tanks into heavily populated palestinian areas armed groups in palestine and launched attacks from occupied territories about 5000 palestinians were killed over 4 years. all right for more on all this i'm joined by our guests in iaffa sally aboud member of the national leadership standing together a jewish arab social movement in london you'll see michael berg associate fellow of middle east and north africa program at chatham house and in dublin yes

a lot of assistant professor at trinity college dublin and academic member of the center for palestine studies at university of london so us a warm welcome to you all sally let me start with you today from your perspective is what we're seeing here the beginnings of a 3rd intifada. i don't think you're going to get an answer from me a yes or no answer i'm going to tell you what feels different this time. but feel different this time. this time i think we have accumulation many many things that are happening. in the past few years we are seeing a tremendous development in the settler movement and you know they are settling in mixed cities such as. such as. a

eastern jerusalem. exchanges and it is really a very very special case but really you know. they are going into israel. not occupied territories. according to international law and they are actually settling there and. creating many provocations these things are happening and they are you know escalating from time to time and in recent months it really has escalated both in the effort in loads and on that. that's one thing that's happening the 2nd thing is happening is the nation state law the nation state law or what israelis but the nation state law has really shifted the conversation for for palestinians and he threatens it's really has shifted the narrative. of the people or weakens the narrative that said many israeli it just is ready. you know politicians and leaders have tried to

create which is that you know the narrative of the arab israelis or the fact that we are a democratic country where we enjoy full rights and you know there is no contradiction between a dynasty and a democratic state and that the nation state law really made that very deep break in that narrative which many many many palestinians and israel has really grasped gress song it has to do with many things that we can go on but we should you know you could ask me about that later of why many palestinians really. but let's not go into that a 3rd thing is the fact that we are saying that there are. very very violent extremists who are affiliated with x. with violent organizations that have been elected to do that is read the knesset

and who are seen as legitimate trip you know representatives of the israeli public and these people are you know such as that entity of and smoked rachel are. you know. these attacks the jewish attacks that are happening you said it's intercommunal violence it's absolutely nothing to community by and that what we're seeing is outside organized attacks. for the jewish myth militant settler militants coming and actually attacking palestinian homes there are signing them they're actually marking palestinian homes and going 'd and having organized attacks on houses with the help of the police in many cases it's actually i know it sounds it sounds like it's not real but. there are many cases where the police has actually invaded houses in haste on 2 days ago and

settlers came and after the police and actually vandalized the place while the police was there and the private home of the sunni and. so that's another thing. that the arab palestinian violence on the other hand is very similar to what we what we've seen in 2000 in october 2000 at least within israel you know we are seeing a lot of 'd. arson we are seeing a lot. and burning you know palestinians are burning their own cars and their own. their own trash cans and you know it's really is and obviously there is you know palestinian citizens of israel who are attacking jewish that if that also is happening however it's really a very different type of violence i wouldn't call it into community by alliance so they let are the difference sure sorry let me stop you there because i do want to get back to that point in a few moments but i want to go to u.s.c. now you say you heard sally there talk about what's different this time from your

vantage point how does what is happening now compare to the 1st and 2nd intifada i think even tell us what's happening inside these it's probably one of the words that i can recall he still there was a situation where fights between. jews and. because the show since you shot in the 2nd mainly beats me. israelis these are the israeli military and security full service and palestinians indo by terror talk this this change just is inside the zone poker and i think this policy should bully all these and it effects look if you did you let him into a civil war i think this should be a wake up call and when you see a lynching when there and understand the cemetery's attack when it went missing it will be set on fire when these name change in the state that's i don't think we've

seen him in the past and this would well i would have no one and i think sally's ups a little people where there were changes in this society that as big as him being other less than his opponent next lacked all of the alps society you need and the nation state you know is that was definitely a watershed it came the feeling among the israelis are that now a listing ends in the way they feel inside it because if the state is that the law says if the set of the jewish. and everything that the jews will be superior to to the minority then please their this supposed to be equal citizen but a lot so what's space left something to prosper to become part of this society and this is one of the things that i think this dissent is a wake up call to boss states what happens if such a situation of all of. this is the endless on the feed and one more thing about the

police. extreme elements in both sides to prosper and specially the rise of the highlights this is well that the standard is under no defined themselves and how to go in cool folks but his stance regime is i don't buy into wilson don't you buy yes it is the grievances that fueled both the 1st and 2nd intifada as those grievances are still very much present today are they not. yes absolutely i agree with you i mean that's remember those big reveal answers are nothing new the story qualifying is nothing new the story of the palestinians and the new all together the palestinians have been under attack by zionism. so that the 1st world war and before that the other thing is also. being engaged in a nationalist or get a sense the. best for their collaboration. this is

a fire and when the president agreed that palestine would be transformed into a national home for jewish people which later became the state of israel and palestinians have been engaged in this nationalist. 1948 again this is a very the occupation and glowing in the practices. and we can see now that today the the 4 palestinian national groups are in bloating there is an implosion in the region that's what i see and that's what i understand the 4 palestinian groups that i'm talking about or national groups and communities are the 1st one is in the gaza strip in the gaza strip this to google people has been subjected to a very severe blockade since 2007 which has the bribe them of their basic if you are right and this look it has been controlled by israel by land by sea and by air

. if you look at the 2nd national the group which is in the west bank. in the west bank it's been the west bank is under israeli full occupation and under the control of israeli supplements and the israeli settlements in the west bank represent 65 percent of the total amount of land in the west bank so 65 percent of the butler of the west bank territory is under israeli direct military control the control of the israeli settlements which are living in the last oh now palestinians in the west bank continue to face discrimination continue to face its israeli checkpoints and also the reality of the wall the wall and the occupation have taken over palestinian areas or is in the west bank including i get a cut or resources of natural resources. this is this has been

a difficult challenge for probably since we also have to remember that in the west bank there are more than. $500.00 israeli checkpoints which couple if any of the from each other not israelis from palestinians but really cutting off palestinians from palestinians. that is a goal if we move. to the 3rd group which is the 3rd palestinian national group which is in jerusalem in which are 7 palestinians have been facing a systematic policy since $967.00 on the occupation of youth jerusalem they have been facing that systematic policy of home infliction and demolitions and discrimination in including sensorites their rights are not recognized internationally and political rights in their city in jerusalem and in their lands you know their rights are not recognized how is the malaysians have been continuing since 1967 it's

a systematic israeli policy that is supported by these right i'm sorry i am hard interrupt you to the worst we're starting to run out of time and i do want to get back to. about the point in just a couple of moments sally i want to go to you about something else that a lot of people are saying is a bit different this time and that's the role of or the type rather of activism that we're seeing among the younger generation of palestinian protesters from your point of view how different is it i ask that because at the moment we are seeing so many defiant young demonstrators they're constantly posting videos on social media platforms they're posting info graphics to try to break down what's at the root of all of this and it seems to be breaking through to many people around the world in a way that it didn't in the past what do you think about that and how different is it from years past. absolutely i think that. the ability of the stimulus to actually document their experiences at the

stimulants and actually it creatively amazingly you know with fortune after the world has really affected among other things among many other factors that has affected the global narrative and the global so so that they're easy and has really weakens you know the narrative of. how you know how legitimate the is all the tactics. of the israeli governments to actually maintain the occupation and the siege on gaza and what's happening inside of israel as well and. it's i'll tell you another thing with an instrument i think palestinians if palestinian youths has more than ever been active. and not afraid in the sense that you know i remember my grandma my grandma is a palestinian who who experience than a cabal of my grandparents the 4 of them and i don't recall ever them actually

talking about the narrative in a way that is politicized in a way that is you know let's go and resist and that's that's the experience of these 2 there was resistance within israel and palestinians within israel always there has always been but there was also you know a sense of fear a sense of one seems to just assimilate and belong and they started learning the language my parents' generation they actually started going to universities and started getting a job that are in offices with the with the jewish job colleagues and they actually started being fluent in hebrew so they were even more assimilated within the israeli society and assimilated into the narrative of arab israelis and you know distancing themselves from the palestinian narrative our. generation is very different we are actually more educated than ever we are more assimilated than ever

we speak fluent hebrew we live in tel aviv and we live in and have been all the places that are very mixed and we are in there is more sense of equality in many areas such as like. you know in the space when you speak the language fluently and when you're educated obviously there are still systematic discrimination but we feel more confidence to actually identify as palestinian actually identify you know it expressed our anger and express where. our desires of freedom enough for existence and that has affected israeli left the israeli left has been a very. traditional liberal left that has been standing in solidarity with palestinians in the west bank and gaza without actually acknowledge ing the palestinian narrative that the arab public and the arab society in israel

and that has been changing you'll see let me ask you this there are many actors on the world stage right now that are calling for deescalation they are calling for a sation of hostilities or a ceasefire and let me ask you 1st you know is there a possibility that we could see a cease fire because we're not hearing a lot of deescalate tory language from you know the israelis or the palestinians at the moment but the other thing i want to ask you is even if there is some kind of ceasefire or sation of violence how does that impact the violence that we've seen playing out in these mixed communities it's much harder to contain that going forward is it not. i think it's important dawdle obviously don't obviously things between what happened in gaza and the west bank and inside israel and should mention also fighting off 1000000 of those things that i wish you'd use different of the middle east of the linkages at the same time each

of these issues and its own unique aspects that we need to listen some of them actually salim age so i see style will take place it might take another there you go there you sometime maybe next week prevents was the nomic of the world in which hamas in in gaza but there will be a decision what happens or finance and he's actually shrewd boy 'd all these that leave you feel indignant. whatever the impact of what happened in a dozen the west bank these are things that some of this storm feeling. very sense and unless i'm old and known many i'll be israelis is authentic it's part of what happens in is a well this is a really well they're in their midst being in jewels and then all in all in oh in gaza is again it goes through there continues discrimination off 20 percent of the population and again that if i had this not necessarily right now between jews and

arabs between those who believe that it can be coexistence conciliation that the 2 people can live in peace in the same and respect each other and each citizen had exactly the same lines and those who don't think like this and they think it's an international don't know. if this legislation to change it is to respect the rights and the needs of each community because it's not that easily some of the same equal different people in different communities listen to this a president clinton called it one of the types and this lives need to learn how to talk to each other and how to leaf co-exist with one another with how boring and 138 think this kind of a long list sentiment and what we seem to state is not just the sentiment is the hateful to one another and this really should. yasser you were talking about the violence earlier let me ask you this is there any chance we will see

a deescalation in the violence in the near term and secondly is there any international actor who could play an effective mediation role right now. well i was talking abut that with causes to be honest with you other than the violence the root causes of where this violence comes from. the clear on the the the for palestinian national groups in israel in the west bank in jerusalem and in gaza have been facing a systematic policy of discrimination of apartheid of our 2 patients of lack of national right and this needs to be addressed in a loop in order for us to move forward i mean bit salem the israeli organization human rights organization or our base for your rights. and also human rights watch events on national level have all said that palestinian the better saying your situation in the occupied territories and within israel is getting worse and

palestinians are facing apartheid so we need to deal with that we need to better to ignite this apartheid the reality no order to move forward and that's what i've been talking about now the 2nd point moving on is about the long term solution which you were born to is related to i believe in terms of conflict resolution but we need a change of policy on the on the flight of the u.s. we need also a change of policy on the side of the e.u. if you look at the you know the e.u. is the largest economic donor to the palestinians the e.u. also has frayed the relations with it and economic relations with israel but the same time the e.u. hasn't been playing any political or effective political role and the reason is and it's the u.s. pressure it's under pressure from the u.s. not to intervene and secondly it's also divided about israel and it's divided about

what happened what happened to the jewish people in europe in the past so there are still there is still that sense of historical guest now moving on to the. us the us has always been to itself as a mediator in the israeli palestinian issue but that record actually and the policy when you look at it if tells you something different i'm not looked at this policy of look at this record it tells you that the u.s. isn't a credible media there isn't an honest mediator the us is a lot of the state of israel and israel is a major are also the us israel continues to serve the interests of the u.s. and the region so that and the u.s. continues to provide weapons and financial aid and diplomatic as well support to israel of international love and you can also look at what happened at the u.n.

security council and the last 2 days it hasn't been able to meet and discuss the situation in israel palestine or in gaza why is that because of the u.s. pressure it doesn't want to put pressure on it or of stop so what we need is a reporter for mediation to say to succeed we need to acknowledge that what causes and we need also to have a credible international players who are ready to the i'm aware of that would cause it's all right we have run out of time so we're going to have to leave the conversation i thank you so much to all of our guests sally abbot yossi metalwork and yasser. and thank you for watching you can see this in all of our previous programs again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com after further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story from him how much enjoyment a whole team here $500.00. cultivating

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