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more than $5000.00 migrants have crossed into the spanish enclave of ceuta from neighboring morocco the largest single day influx into the city that is one of the territories controlled by spain on mainland africa many of them swam and more than a 1000 of them mine is spain says it's increasing security and border services in the area to speed up returning those who have arrived. at half past the hour we'll take you through the headlines and is ready forces have been intensifying their bombardment of gaza we've been looking at recent pictures here from the skyline israeli troops as well massing on the border dozens of strikes across the strip earlier in the day hospitals are overwhelmed and there is a severe shortage of electricity and water across the strip $212.00 palestinians killed including $61.00 children since the bombing began 8 days ago. palestinian
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factions of also launched more rockets into israel hitting a building in. israel says more than 3000 rockets have been launched since the offensive began at least 10 people in israel have been killed including 2 children . palestinian leaders have called for a general strike across the occupied territories and israel on tuesday protesting against the violence and the ongoing occupation that these 19 palestinians have been killed in the occupied west bank since monday morning from him reporting from ramallah in the occupied west bank. this is the 1st time in decades that we've seen palestinians across the political divide partake in such a general strike and they say that their ploy under israel is the same those palestinians living in israel say that are facing discrimination in the occupied east jerusalem they say they're facing continuous violations of assaults by israel as well as those in the occupied west bank who say that they're facing all measures
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of the israeli occupation when it comes to expansion as well as settler attacks and those in gaza are facing the bombardment a couple more stories for you a powerful sign corn is swept ashore in western india killing at least 21 people so i can talk to is now weakening after making landfall on the state of good drought on monday it's also caused damage in states right across the coast from her russia to kerala the severe winds and heavy rain of forced more than 200000 people from their homes and hong kong's government says it is temporarily closing its office in taiwan without providing an actual reason i want the government said it regretted the decision tension between the 2 has risen since the pro-democracy protests started in hong kong back in 29. you're up to date with the news from al-jazeera next is the latest edition of inside story i joined al jazeera as part of the
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launch team in 2006 protesters are called for a 1000000 man march in that time i've covered wars revolutions elections military poor's from the favelas of caracas to the battlefields around i would just to get to the truth and empower people through knowledge. israel says it's carrying out airstrikes on gaza to defend itself but according to the u.n. the right to self-defense along people living under occupation so international law is being respected and where does that leave palestinians who are fighting for their rights this is inside story. of their welcome to the program dick clark more than $200.00 palestinians killed by israeli airstrikes on gaza residential buildings flattened homes destroyed and
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water supplies running out israel says it's targeting tunnels and military facilities in self-defense full of palestinians in occupied east jerusalem and the storming of al aksa mosque by israeli forces last week and that spread into fighting between mixed communities of jewish and palestinian israelis the u.n. is warning the fighting could unleash an uncontainable security and humanitarian crisis international calls for a cease fire have been mounting palestinian and israeli officials both made their case i think emergency meeting held by the security council on sunday when you one breaks your children and grandchildren to write leave think of our children and of how you can honor those killed and murdered those still alive. think of what it feels to see your world crumbling down i'm not being able to protect them think and grandchildren to write leaves think of our children and of how you can
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unload those killed and murdered those still alive. think of what it feels to see your world crumbling down and not being able to protect them think of what it means to sleep not knowing which one of you will wake up remember that each time israel hears a foreign leader speak of its right to defend itself it is further emboldened to continue murdering entire families in their sleep this is not the 1st time that hamas has been discriminately fire deadly missiles that israeli civilians while hiding behind a listing in civilian but this time it's different it was completely premeditated but by hamas in order to gain political power
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it was all a part of their vicious plan while hamas thinks the destruction of the state of israel is also vying to they take power in the west bank and to replace the palestinian authority or let's hear from the un to secretary general and tell it to terrorise he says to end the violence the peace process needs to be restarted. international law applies to everybody without exception all member states are supposed to abide by the resolutions namely the resolutions really cancel and obviously the unity of the significance alina xiv extremely important instruments the recent incidents demonstrate how important it is to restart effectively the peace process because it's the only way i am a true believer that we need to promote a 2 state solution living in peace and harmony between the 2 and with normalized
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relations with the region and the full participation of the countries of the region of the international community as a whole in creating the conditions for this peace process to move forward where the u.s. and western capitals have backed israel's right to defend itself while other nations say the palestinians right to defend themselves is being ignored that right to self-defense of people living under occupation is grounded in international law and it dates back to 982 when the united nations passed a general assembly resolution that recognize the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence territorial integrity national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all vailable means including armed struggle to take a quick look at some other liberation movements throughout history algeria was colonized by france from the 18th hundreds until the war for independence in 954 when the national liberation front fighters launched an offensive against french rule the movement gained international support and algeria was recognized as
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a sovereign state in 1962. the 960 is also marked a turning point in south africa in the fight against apartheid the system of government that separated people based on race and the apartheid groups maintain resistance with some using guerilla warfare apartheid ended in the early 1990 s. and a democratic government was formed in 1904 in ireland in the early 1900 the irish movement's struggle against british rule led to the deaths of hundreds of people including civilians but its cause gained popularity and led to the establishment of a breakaway government in ireland in 1919. 1990 s. and a democratic government was formed in 1904 in ireland in the early 1900 the irish movement's struggle against british rule led to the deaths of hundreds of people including civilians but its cause gained popularity and led to the establishment of a breakaway government in ireland in 1919.
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all right let's bring in our guests in messina christina milian yellow is the reader and laura hill university in the u.k. and member of the legal team representing garza victims before the international criminal courts in cape town in south africa tim murphy is head of peace building interventions at the institute for justice and reconciliation and here in doha in qatar south america is director of the center for conflict and humanitarian studies at the doha institute welcome all to the program sultan better if i could start with you now the israelis do not consider themselves to be an occupying force but as we've just been hearing in international law they are regarded as such right. they are i mean it is definitely an occupied territory as far as the low is concerned now the different interpretations by the israelis that really got some momentum following the 1988 were drawn of jordanian sovereignty over the occupied
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territories in the west in the west bank and those basically what they some israelis claim is that their land practically was occupied from jordan now there is no country demanding their liberation of that land and as such we are not quite as an occupying force and this of course contradicts all the norms of international law as far as i'm aware and the definition of occupation goes as back as the 19th century and has been built on repeatedly which refers to any territory that is. controlled under the author of the of a hostile army and in the in the case of both palestine of course this was still if he continues and they are in control of the land and as such that brings not only the right for resistance for the palestinians but also
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a huge amount of legations and responsibilities on the israelis to protect human rights to protect properties to definitely not to destroy properties and forms of culture and so on of those people and and and certainly not to colonize it and do any unilateral annexation or such territories or move populations to live in those areas ok to murthy in south africa we'll draw on your own experience in south africa in a 2nd but. the overriding narrative in israel as we heard united states well and various other nations is that israel has the right to self-defense in the face of rocket attacks in golf. well the principle of so defense is established in international law 'd as well. but i think the principle of self-determination
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that's all right. you know. such a consideration it doesn't help that confusion rockets are flying straight into its very homes because it does make the moral case much more difficult. but i think this is quite a complex situation that we need to be you know quite focused in terms of understanding how we see this a multiple. violations happening on both sides i don't so a failure of the international system i think we need to prove that i'm able to actually be able to mediate and come up with a solution a enduring stable peace that can in fact enable these 2 communities to coexist and i think it's important to look at the role of power flashes in the united nations system to be fighting not to be the united states you know and here what we see is as the administrations in washington change and then with that the you know
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the posture towards as well also in you know changes and we should raise the question why that's happening so shortly after 8 transition in washington and right what really needs a national system do to address this crisis ok we'll look at that little bit later christina milian yellow you know them all very very well so if you have the occupied suppress palestinians as they are but if palestinian factions of foreign rockets on israel as tim was just alluding to. all of the israelis not within their rights to try and stop them and take out the source. well that's the big part of the gospel intellectual a sure win on the earth under international law and what at least aimed at the beginning foresaw to. organize the peace and movement he must i had. only on the international tool team lease for lawful means including good struggle
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against a lot of your by far which he says and which he said of course in these cases i like it was a little light on the scene with all that not only the west of baghdad linking to jerusalem is an under way but also the goddess to the people are because they stayed by these why did we go tonight by international organization team looking into the wagon where the fighting was an asian man the surf course exercise and expected on top of all what or that got us to beat the problem in action for the fans is what is meant for the fans claimed. as a consequence of will not be chucking tea at least i said he said that anything else like he's putting in place it wipes insisting.
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on a population both in the west bank and clearly still planning ahead and. god. saw the clean he had of the things he said that consequences only last who live at . leeds and where would be indication under international law because of the market doesn't that bad you say that if it had massive fire rockets because they've been you know poked and poked to provoke to provoke you know a settlement building and settlement buildings and crackdowns in the al aqsa mosque compound that we can classify the fired rockets in that situation by hamas and palestinian factions as self defense. i'm seated there international of organizing the will organize the center who writes back to the geneva convention 1949 additional thought all you want about on national ottawa for which it's peaceful by international i'm coughing from the victim which people are fighting in economy
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nation and look at all of the racial war we do in these contexts in which he's got all of saddam's organized and humanity magnificent who are mad they have to comply with international money tied to north beach force in particular that means equal so at least initially and of course not you saw an article in the police and a spinning top doctor intentionally being east you don't object of course even organized woman assistant moments have to. wait the general thinks what the under international want to tell it can be no action oh i don't want on these these and sell them but to cut so the palestinians defending themselves from a kind of overall oppression oppression rather than initially a direct attack on gaza. well they're defending themselves from an overall systematic occupation that is trying to push them out of their land and to replace them with communities that are brought from all over the globe in the name of
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religion so they have a very clear case i think in terms of illegality of the situation and even if you were to think about what's going on in gaza and hamas resisting under international law as i understand it even if there is a resistance and the occupier is not in full control of the territory that does not make their obligations in terms of international humanitarian law and us they still have to go back to the war to the loaf war and the 4 geneva conventions apply and that at the center of those is there is spect for human rights and the respect of ownership and property and everything else that is in that in the occupied land and in fact a very important aspect which is that the load that should be implemented in that area is that all the land is not the law of the occupier so you bring in it is your
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your duty to sustain law and order but ultimately it is to start with at the law of the land and what israel has been doing is they've suspended the law of the land or selectively select you know taken here and there and they went as back you know back as far as the automatic goes to take and to put together what suits their cause what they the idea that and the agenda of the israelis and this is what led us to where we are today what we're seeing in iraq is not is not just started in the last week or so this is a systematic approach that has been taken. ever since since 1987 with the occupation of the west bank and gaza this is a vote for. it's all about record before that of course in terms of the 94748 a tree but since the record nice occupation of the west bank and gaza israel has
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not. upheld any of the international standards and certainly have not upheld or materialized or implemented any of the un resolutions that were referred to by good terrorists in your report area ok israel has the number of resolutions that are extremely explicit and radically a black and white none of them has been respected none of them has been upheld ok we're going to further the illegality of the process of justice and it's going to take a better tim in in south africa and john is back in cape town to say to murthy so what parallels can we draw with south africa and what people it went through that during the era of apartheid and indeed which led to nelson mandela leading an all wing of the a.n.c. . yes i think it's a very important to. store aside these conflicts and not simply a moment in time and try to understand the different dimensions to it so the
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legality of your position has been a stem step in that very important i thought africa would deny that it was the guy with the. branches which in fact separated people in south africa on the basis of the color of his skin and what you see. in palestine a sense of the you know the separation taking place you know walls to divide community has been flowing you know to control the movement of people and that is why i've seen. the african being made with the current situation in the occupied territory in south africa. nelson mandela. many people actually remember more as a as a peace building as a reconciler. was the 1st. of the. of the
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african national congress. with easily in 161. led to a campaign of the salting installations of the day and you know that the level was no way to deal with b.p. today. but it was a concerted campaign military campaign to go out and take on the system but what became very quickly is that there is an asymmetry of power between state. and you know a militia that is made all. come together to say that. we weren't the only on. the pan-african congress and that was also involved and military struggle against the apartheid state ok i'm just going to jump in there because we need to move in on the very interesting points that you make assault on just come but you briefly. is apartheid going on now in the palestinian territories . sure i mean if you take it up are tight as as definition if we go to the
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international convention on the suppression and punishment of the crime of apartheid 8 literally say that apartheid is any any human acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining the domination of one group or another and this is what is going on within the occupied territories certainly and even within israel and this is a discussion this been going on for some time it has gained more momentum in the 1970 s. and the general assembly resolution on this is very clear that was passed in 1976 and more than 109 states are parties to this convention now of course israel's position would be that were not part you describe it but they're not party to a lot of conventions that are there to regulate the conduct of war and to regulate the relation of the state to its people and this is of course because the danger of
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the state it was the way it is done the way it is thought about as a dynamic entity that is growing day on day and is acquiring land and this is happening at against the background where the palestinians right from the 1973 have been presenting compromises if you recall back in 1988 the p.l.o. agreed or accepted the 2 important un resolutions 2 for 2 or 3 and 338 and that came following the peace agreement that egypt had with the israelis and also the arab states having recognized p.l.o. as the only legitimate representative of the palestinian people and then the separation that's happened between jordan and the and the occupied territories to pass that responsibility on to the p.l.o. so that has led them into a road which then kicked. the oslo peace agreement in 1983
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which was seen as a process and the hope that this process would lead them into an end to the conflict and instead of doing so it has ended just as a process they've made many many compromises and their return has been negligible ok and they're concerned it's been the opposite they've lost their land. there's no practical way of having now 2 state solutions because of that fragmentation of the palestinian right because of rene alternately to move on. to the program but christina so we have this this ongoing apartheid which is a daily fact of life then we have this latest bout of aggression in gaza what elements of what we're seeing in gaza might constitute war crimes. well. i think that what i was a little question before is the faces of the likes of the fans but no state has the right tool for me to work on its crimes and assume i can genocide it yeah what's
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happening in these big seemed to last few days he got that there is a clear strong evidence already collected by a palestinian and you also did the d.c. . work crimes committed against the civilian population in gaza exactly like and how loud it was unarmed and not of. the military operation not for doing exactly the same up all of the supporters will already denounce them by un mission the thing was in the bottom. of the nuclear to be stuff that is that of auditing whereas the work that was young means mainly in east asia and i mean beastly we need a dangerous young ablation in xian objects in 24000 of those into law and international opinion of all political left that events all the more than 2000 incidents which may amount or crimes and don't we today these will begin
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a wing investigation before an intermission of the not able to meet now that ends this matter to not be knocked up but a baby will need we can get it but why did the examples of the. t.v. station broadcasting their bill be. gotten that got us where there is no military necessity and not entirely objective but. object peace of god be to or anything in it but that's what we need i mean this next. sides and. let the nation area or i'm going to jump in there again because we've just got a minute left in the program i want to finish up with tim timothy in capetown just very briefly if you would in the end what brought change in south africa what we learned from the the peace process that to apply to the seemingly impossible dream of peace in the middle east. in the end it was not so much who the military
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commander transformed itself into a negotiated peace maker he established a peace agreement with the south africa. and in fact became reconciled after that at the 1st president of south africa so what we need in the occupied territory that is about well for people to become themselves you know. their quest to reach out and build bridges the military approach is important they are going to get anywhere we're going to see more people into the story and we're going to see more lives lost so i think this is the enduring ness of south africa even about it is a model we should be exploring much more in terms of practical and sustainable solution to the situation in the occupied territories. or just when we have run out of time do appreciate your time joining us to talk about this important story thank you to our guests to christina manolo timothy and sultan baraka and thank you too
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israeli troops continue to mass along the border with gaza are after another night of airstrikes hitting palestinian homes and clinics. i'm here in doha with the world news from al-jazeera palestinians are rallying this tuesday against the bombings and a general strike across the occupied territories and israel. also in the news.

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