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news. news. what do you watch? the video that shops the world and triggered a movement against police violence and racial injustice in the us. so what's changed in the year since george floyd killing and has justice been served? this is inside story. ah, ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm had the jim john, george floyd wasn't the 1st unarmed black man to die, the hands of us police officers. but the shocking video of his arrest in minneapolis a year ago reverberated around the world and triggered with many, called a global reckoning on racism. as

officer dairy calvin press down on his neck for 9 minutes floyd's last words re ignited long standing anger at systematic discrimination and police brutality. in the u. s. protests for justice spread globally forcing people to confront their own country struggles with race and inequality. the debate is far from over. as my can reports from minneapolis. nay, ha, ha ha. people gather to remember george floyd who went out for a packet of cigarettes just under a year ago and ended up dead at the hands or knee of a white police officer. george fried should not go down in here. say hes just some one. would it be under the mic? george fraud should go down in history. that broke the neck. all right. well,

nice racism well lose brutality. and least he li gathered. i will stay in and be the voice for him. i was fit and be the change for him. our spirit could see you to be the legacy for him. find that if that i'm guilty, derrick shogun has been found guilty of murder and manslaughter, and will be sentenced on the 25th of next month. you cannot separate just from the but the debate continues to rage as to whether meaningful police reform is taking place. how can they reform something without including not, once you can't reform anything, you don't exclude the people who are directly affected by want to go up amount that we finally got to the base of the man we didn't get to the face. now we're at the base of them with the bill. amount in the back. yeah. off to the rallies, over those. remembering george floyd,

reclaim some streets of downtown minneapolis. the number significantly smaller than the 10s of thousands who marched here in the months after the murder. i propose remain the president to be placed in the there will be made new laws. mike. oh, just minneapolis. ah. all right, let's bring in our guests in atlanta. jill cartwright, community organizer and campaign lead at southerners on new ground. and chicago lester spends professor of political science and africanist studies at johns hopkins university and alexandria virginia arthur riser, a former police officer and former prosecutor at the department of justice. a warm

welcome to you all joe. let me start with you today. the fact that their child was found guilty of murdering george floyd, how significant was that for black americans? thank you and good morning today. the murder of george ward was in agree just act that we all witness on video if you chose to watch and watching derrick show, then go on trial for murder. that spark ignited a whole new movement was it brought up a lot of emotions for a lot of people. and i think that still, even with having witnessed the year of a movement and haven't seen the video that a lot of black americans and other americans, honestly still we're not sure what we're going to be the outcome of that trial because of what has happened in the past and so i will say that many of us, we're happy to actually see the verdict delivered that we all want it in that we needed to hear in the time. and that bird it's, i think,

is more than just a moment, more than just a confirmation of what we know to be true. but actually, the moment that show that our movement and that are protesting activating and i'm merging our rallies and proposing legislation and seem to put the pressure on actually will make a difference. and that there is a possibility for accountability for consequences for murdering black lives. is a step though, and many of us and many of the folks who are in the st last year and who continue to push for reforms. and for abilene, we should know that it is justice. and that it doesn't actually guarantee that we will see the many changes that we have advocated for, including the funding police. we know that as abolition is that convicted, police officers does not actually get closer to being able to see the harms reduce

. but we do know that is the confirmation of all of the violence that we've experienced over these over this year. lesser george floyd's death brought people out protesting, not just in the us, but all around the world, even during a pandemic. what did that say to you? so what it said was, i'm going to go back in time to 2016 where donald trump was elected in the united states. a number of folk have been focusing on aspect on, on, on hope more specifically suggesting that we need it more hope. and then after trump was elect elected, it was as if hope die. what the protest nationally and globally

suggest it to me was something more accurate and suggesting something i knew that we didn't really need hope. it was. ready ready what we need it more, was it anything a bit more anger and we needed anger, combined with kind of a sustain political movement. and what we saw with those protests was that in effect, that is to say, you know, millions upon millions of people including myself, were on the streets. and what we saw as a result is a shift not only nationally united states context, approximately 160 police reform bills have been enacted in approximately 30 states . but even globally, we've seen the conversation shift on issues, for example, related to israel and palestine that come as large byproduct of the protests that we saw and of the movement that arguably culminated in,

in the movement after george boyd's down. arthur, how has the dialogue over policing and over police brutality and over systemic racism changed over the course of the past year in the united states? i think the, you know, the proof is going to be in a put in and i think that what's telling about the children's conviction is not that he was convicted cops have been convicted in the past. i mean, this is something that we've done, you know, actually relatively routine routinely, especially on the federal level. what was different from me was the way that the trial to place, you know, specifically, you saw the please testifying against one of their own. and they did it in a way that was really did break the, the tradition, which was, you know, even if you had to testify against other officer, if you did it in a way that still try to protect the profession at all costs. you protected the blue wall, you ensure that you were as resistant as possible. you saw none of that in the tribe

and trial. and this is not an issue of training. this is an issue of culture. and so what we, what i think provision of putting what we need to see is how is this, you know, the murder of doors floyd, the conviction of the officer showed him. and then you were also going to have further trials or more trials coming up. how is that going to play out in the culture policing? we have $18000.00 police departments in the united states. $18000.00 and each one has its own culture. so how that's going to actually play out is, is hard to tell, but i do think, you know, lester said something that's pretty profound that we haven't seen the past. every single state that i work in has a policing bill this last year and there's new policing bills coming up. some of them are garbage and they're not going to do anything. so them are pretty profound . they're actually going to have real teeth. and so i think as those play out and we see the legislation and we see culture kind of surrounding the profession to demand excellence because i think we should demand excellence from people who carry guns. i think that is where we're going to see what the actual effect was,

but there is a possibility that we're going to go back to the same same. i mean i did an interview on this station when. busy ferguson rides were going on and i remember thinking, yeah, nothing's going to change and nothing did change. i do see some glimmers of hope. i do think this is different, and i am looking forward to seeing some systemic changes throughout the professional policing. last year i saw you nodding along to a lot of what arthur was saying there, did you want to jump in and expand on the point he was making? yeah. just in one way. so why it's important to do, even as we're in this moment, is to think about the longer, right? and it's actually not that long, right? but going back to, if you were to go back to 2015 and a little bit before and then use that to protect your api, right? like if you to stop the target and you're like, wow, we've seen the protest, but nothing's happened. but the thing is what happens is,

movement grow and develop over time, and then they bring in more folk. right? so one thing that i haven't seen a lot of people talk about the n b a playoff in the united states just started this weekend last year. we basically saw the equivalent of a great strike by n b, a players ad w, m b, a players. once they're galvanized that in turn causes other people to reflect and then that in other institutions to reflect and that make all type of change as possible, you know, so spinning off in another direction. we don't have the ga election that basically puts the senate in the hands of democrat unless you have the w m. b a helping to organize voters and galvanized voters in georgia. so they're all types of spin offs . i think arthur is right in that the poop is in the pudding. but what i think we, but what we can say is we've never seen a moment like this. ah, and i think weird and complicated ways. we're just getting started. jill,

i want to talk for a minute about the george floyd justice and policing act because that remain stuck in congress right now. you know, president biden had hoped that this would be put on his desk and ready for him to sign this legislation by the anniversary of george boyd's killing. and it does not look right now. like that is going to happen. how frustrating is out for you. what does that signify to you? i think that we expect that when it comes to legislation and when it comes to, even as he mentioned, even a congress that is controlled by the democrats. i think that we can still expect some resistance. and for there to be some peace mill changes that happen over time . and of course, you know, i whole hardly believe that when that bill does, he president bite in office when it hits his best that he will sign it a whole. how do we believe that he will?

the problem in that lies in that that is not what movement has asked for our movement. the movement for black lie, the movement that has been laid in sparts by the death of george lloyd to call for the police to be funded. and that bill actually allocate more dollars more funding to police department and policing for reform in order to make sure that police can get training. police can certain laws can pass right, banning chuckles and things like that. and that's not what we ask for, because we know that policing is inherently flawed. the system of policing in the united states do they have li, flawed, and so what we've asked for is not the george boy act. i think it's to name the act . doctor george lloyd, very bold, but what we've asked for the breed at, we're asking for legislation that actually supports and stands behind what movement is asking for what black organizers and leaders have dedicated our lives to

studying. and the solutions that we have been able to come together and create for ourselves and for our communities from our communities. and so i think that yes, it is frustrating to know that even legislation like the george flood, that is having trouble getting through congress. right. and that is being thought and that, that legislation actually resistance in congress. but we also know that that legislation isn't the end goal. it doesn't encompass all of what we've been able to imagine in this miraculous past year. well, let me ask you where do things to me from your perspective stand when it comes to the fund, the police movement, i mean, because that phrase defined the police has been so polarizing in the past year. have we actually seen cuts in police budgets in different states? are there funds that are being re invested in community based programs and social service programs? i mean, is there

a sort of viable or tangible reimagining of public safety going on in different parts of the u. s. right? yes, there are, but you have that. what you have to do is we have to drill down something arthur brought up there 800000 different police units. they're mostly governed by a combination of state and city law. and, but then even in addition to that, they're all types of like, i'm in while i'm not in baltimore, but i'm from, i live in baltimore. and for example, one of the problems that we've had in baltimore is that a number of institutions have tried to create private police forces even after the 2015, even after the 201-5216 protest regarding pretty grey. what we've seen in baltimore is not just significant movement to reduce the rate at which spending is increases and increasing in policing. but in the case of a institution like my employer, johns hopkins, we've effectively caused them to reverse their stance on creating

a private police force. so i think that in place after place after place, although it's complicated, what we're seeing is a significant significant move towards not only deep funding police, but removing police powers and re orienting police spending. right. we spend $500000000.00 a year on policing and baltimore and we now know and the data is always shown that that money can be put to better use. so i think we're seeing a political push where they are up for that. but again, i think we just at the beginning are there, i want to ask you, what's the dialogue like now among police in the country? i mean, are there officers who are speaking out officers who believe that there must be more reform within police departments? how vocal are they being, how vocal are there unions being has that changed? sure. yeah, sure. i mean, there are some, there actually has been a shift in the dialogue and the rubber communion, which i actually,

it's surprising that's really when the 1st times i've seen unions wanting to come to the table and some of the bills that were pushing in states and on the doors, floyd act and you know, joe is absolutely right. you cannot divorce history from police. you know, some of the very 1st police units in the country were slave hunters. but at the same time, please do feel like they're under attack. and maybe that's maybe that's, that's righteous. however, when you pick police against the people that they're supposed be pleasing, you do, you're just intensify your rationing up. that kind of combative nature. so i think that, you know, we have to start focusing on what is, what actually will change policing the country in when the ferguson writes were happening approaches in progress and were happening. all the conversations were about the militarization to please wire. please have this equipment. why that back wouldn't, that isn't going to change policing. will change policing is the culture. and when

you talk about who, you know, the chiefs of police across the country are largely, are highly educated and they're kind of already bought in. it's that, that, that fit or math of that leadership, the sergeant with field train officers, remember children with the f t o. i want people to imagine that those cameras rolling. what would those 2 rickies walked away with that day that you're allowed to murder someone and what and get away with it because that's kind of what happens in this country. but what's happened historically in the country? so we have to really focus on the culture side of it and the way that you do that is not creating an environment where, you know, if i start a conversation with you and i with about the problems in journalism. and i said, well, let's start by saying we're going to reduce your salary. now let's have a conversation. nobody wants to participate in that. so i think the focus really need to be on what should be the police mission. and that's the conversation that let's have it, and i'm all about it. but if, if we start off by saying we want to be on. now let's have a conversation. nobody wants to come to the table and poll after poll after poll

has said that this is the loser. you're actually aly needed, not just cops you're alienating the boating public. and you know, president obama has talked about the president biden has talked about it. we really need to have pragmatic solutions, and those solutions really do revolve around the culture aspect. and we talk about what should be the police mission and as a society, if we want to reduce violent cops, then we need to implement things that reduce violent cops. and just having companies is that, that revolver and rhetoric don't actually do that. jill, the black lives matter movement, got this huge surgeon support in the wake of george floyd's killing. where does that support stand right now? i mean, do you get any sense that momentum has waned at all in the united states? not at all. i think that obviously over time the streets do begin to empty. like you mention the even the protesters, the amount of folks that we saw on the streets in minneapolis leading up to george

lloyd, the anniversary of his murder was $10000.00 less than we had seen last year. right . and i think that we often confuse a moment of whirlwind, which is a moment of crisis. a moment where there is a major that happening that folks are responding to. we often confuse that with the movement and move on where it actually is a protracted sort of where it's the kind of work that takes time and the kind of work that mostly happens behind doors of talking to people of meeting with legislators drafting our demands and being able to actually build that kind of power that you saw last year that power had built over time. and i think that obviously the conditions where, where would code 19 happening with math unemployment, with many folks frustrated and out of jobs and not seen themselves being held in, being protected under the bo condition of the hand to make,

i think also contribute it contribute to that frustration, excuse me, but yet there is large support for the move on to black lab when we were pulling since we're talking about pulling numbers. i wanted to also mention that we did a lot of our own pulling ahead of the georgia run off election, which i was a part of my organization was a part of and we were actually proposing. and the issues that were important for the movement through black lives where the top line issue of fixing racial justice address, racial justice, being able to attack the health disparities based on race and maternal mortality. and all of these issues that are explicitly tied to racism in this shape. and so it, the support is still there. it may not look like people marching in the streets right now. but i think that when you look at the detailed,

the devil is in the details. if there weren't support for d, funding, police, then we would not be so many municipalities across the country, large and small. talking about small counseling, oklahoma to large cities like new york and seattle and l. a. d funding their police department, because that that's the demand that came from the movement and from the grassroots . and that's actually a defensive demand. we're on the decent because police departments have been antagonizing communities for centuries. and so this is a measure that we can say we're going to put the funds where our folks will be protected and will get the kind of services we need not have to be. so aggressively last year we only have a couple of minutes left. i, it looked at me like you wanted to jump in and add to what jill was saying. but i also want to ask you about the fact that you know so many commentators over the course the past year have said that, you know, america is at an inflection point or they have said that there is a racial reckoning that is going on in the country, do you believe that that is something that is actually taking place in america

right now? well, it's not just a racial reckoning, it's an economic record. so if you go back to what 1929, and now you know, we've got more in inequality now than we did during the great depression. so we really are add an inflection point like i myself lost 1617 people to cove it. right? like both in my family. so i think that it's, it's only, unfortunately it's only at real crisis moments like these where we can see significant movement, where we can see that type of culture shift that arthur's calling war. but the thing is that those culture shifts where they're talking about in policing, whether we're talking about within the democratic party, they tend to come as a result of political movement. so it's not that institutions reform themselves that just, that just isn't how it functions. oftentimes, what institutions like policing institutions, like multinational corporations,

institutions like political parties, they require political action from outside of them in order to move them in the direction that we need to go to make this whole structure more. you may, and i think that's what we're saying. again, we're only have to be getting at the mean bare because of the black point. we can easily go the other direction. if you look at the work, what the republican party is doing in the united states, even if you extend that to think about what's going on a turkey, what's going on in israel, what's going on and what's going on a brazil where at the beginning of the beginning but i hopefully y'all take this part, but i actually have hope that's the only time i ever say that on any type of mediocrity have hope that we're that we're going in the right direction. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave the discussion there. thank you so much. all of our guest, chill, cartwright, lester. spence and arthur riser. and thank you to for watching. you can see this and all of our previous programs again, anytime by visiting our website at 0 dot com and for further discussion,

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