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supreme court, the implementation of these laws and the more the government also offered to put them on hold for a year and a half. but farm. i say that these 3 laws put their livelihoods at stake, opera, corporate, and want them repealed. and just before the headlines, let me show you some pictures from sydney, australia, from a few hours ago of a rep astronomical phenomenon. it's been done, the super flower moon. it happens when the moon is full at the closest point in its orbit to the earth. and there's a total lunar eclipse, the only one of the year on it is good to be with a fellow adrian. second here into how the headlines. here are the us secretary of state has met with the egypt president in cairo to both to support the cease fire between israel and hamas. he's now in jordan, where he has an audience with king abdullah. a dutch court has ordered the oil
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giant shell to cut his carbon emissions by nearly 50 percent by 2030. it's being held as a major victory for environmentalists. the verdict could have major implications for similar cases around the world. iran the president is urging the country supreme leader to allow more candidates in next month presidential election. president hottie criticized the decision by the election watchdog to reject several nominations for the chief adviser to the u. k. as prime minister as told upon of entry committee that the government failed the public and its corona virus response . dominant coming says that he and other officials acted too late. to says the senior minister, senior officials, to advisors like me fell the fastest shores of the standards. the public has a right to expect of its government in a crisis like this when the public needs its most, the government failed. and i'd like to say to families of those who are who died
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uncertainty, how story i am for them to make my own mistakes without tropical fight, diaz made plan fall on india, east coast. more than 2000000 people have been moved to safety. heavy rain has caused severe flooding across several regions. it's the 2nd cycle to hit india, and just over a week. for south africa, president jacob zoom has pleaded not guilty to corruption charges and an arm steal case. summa has rejected the charges and a russian president, alexander lucas shanker says that he was protecting his country's people by diverting a european flights of a baler ocean as space. shank denied that a fighter jet forced the civilian aircraft land after what turned out to be false on threats. a dissident journalist on board was arrested when the plane landed in minutes. and those are the headlines won't use the hill and i'll 0 after today's edition of the stream. next, i see the refugee mean starting
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a game, but building a new life in a new country is no easy to let him drive. the witness follows one of the last refugee families from syria and to be granted an american visa from their personal sacrifices to the families priam meet the syrian on al jazeera. ah hi anthony. okay, to day on the stream, refugee is not welcome. in denmark, the temporary residency state has given to syrian refugees is currently being reviewed by the danish government. this means that some refugees from syria may have to go back to syria, have to leave denmark, or perhaps will be detained in immigrant centers for an indefinite amount of time.
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neural danes are on board with it. many have hit the streets to protest in favor of refugee rights. i mean, i think it's very puzzling for most pain. why are government seems to want to take the lead in enforcing people back into the hands of a dictator? if i'm thinking back when i was 18 years old, i would have been to some country with some rating. and while the rest of my family would be in another country extremely far away, and i don't like that. and that's one of the last question that we're looking at today is, is denmark abandoning syrian refugees? if you're on youtube, you can jump to the comment section, comment, and ask questions of i guess and be part of today show, let's meet the guests. hello to mckayla, hello for was and hello t neil's. i'm going to get all of i guess to say who they are and tell us what they
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do. do you mikaela is good to have you on the stream. can you explain what you 2 my name is mikayla in dixon and the head and founder of a small into and, and my cold refugees. welcome. and we work for full refugees rights and denmark. thanksgiving hello for was welcome to the stream. introduce yourself. hello, my name is for was that though, i'm a civilian activist and the refugee from syria. welcome and hello neil's. get to have you on board as well, and choose yourself to i international audience. thank you and good evening. my name is status. yes person. i'm the editor in chief of the web magazine. the p u is, which is a social democrat, a web magazine in denmark hospital. what, let's start with what is happening. receiving refugees right now in denmark. would you say that many are we know very vulnerable position because it's nice to review of the temporary residential status. it was always going to be temporary,
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wasn't it wasn't, it was, it was from the start to be a temporary, actually, because when, when the syrian came to denmark, it was the integration contract that was 5 years. and i called into the low. it's like, you know, in the way to it will be so the life of the surgeon, but after all of these legislations or decisions from the government, so they put to people's life on the unstable daily anxiety. i'm just wondering why the danish government is reassessing syrian refugees right now, neil's in in denmark. what's happened to make the situation different for the government to say, i think some, some of the, some refugees they can go back to serial right now. well, 1st of all is actually not a government decisions. we have a refugee appeals bought who,
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who take these decisions and it's based on the laws passed by the most partisan, the danes parliament. so, so that's the reason for it. i think the, the logic behind it is that if you want to make room for refugees in denmark, then the refugees who no longer needs protection. well, they would have to leave denmark. and i was have to address that. the no one that's actually being deported to send to syria, but if you residents permit and denmark gets revoked, well then you will be asked to leave benmark. and if you refuse to leave denmark, well then you will have to go to the departure since us. i'm just going to bring in the smokes person for the social democrats who summing up a little sense of how the social democrats are thinking about refugees in denmark, have a lesson for me. yes, it's was all most re asylum's ego. right. and then michael ended up as an immigrant
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and mac and ended up staying in denmark. and we have had increased integration problems, challenges since living in 1900 navies, lack of employment, high criminality rates, cultural pleasures, so on. and we don't want to increase these problems every year. mikayla, what i'm hearing varies the concern that refugees might turn into immigrants and they have going to be permanently part of danish society. is a genuinely a problem with that, it sounded from the social democrats perspective that there was a problem in the refugees with trouble. well, they used to be a problem. the ones who came in the a to they didn't integrate as well as the newcomers because we didn't really have a well functioning integration system back them. but we have that now. it's actually working better than and that's why it's so stupid to change the rules
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right now. and i have to say refugees is a long term thing. if you ask the you and hcr, which are the experts in this world about refugees, they will say refugees in general and need a protection for 17 years. and i don't think anybody agrees that the refugees should be returned after 17 years in the country. so refugee is not a temporary thing, it's not something that you, you can't say that you're a refugee one year or 2 years. you are probably probably going to be a reference for a long time and maybe your whole life. yes. and maybe even the next generation, that's how it is if you look back over history. so this new idea of temporary t is just not possible. it's a misunderstanding of the whole concept of refugees and what they have run away from. and with the syrians, it's extreme. i mean, syria isn't, isn't worth humanitarian state. now, the been during the war in many ways,
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they have nothing to come back to these people. and they supposed to go back to the dictator that they ran away from to build up his country that he bombed. that's an absurd idea. coming from the social democrats really like, likes to like to put to people's life and from my interfere. like it's the people, well, we are tweaking people instead of be in their humans like put them in the situation like them and the society instead of you know, help them to claim again their humanity instead of put them, put them in the cases and boxes and threats to them, like you know, numbers it's, it's not anymore like human beings, its numbers for the government and how many, how many been revoked and how many came and how many out and how many we are. we are talking about human life, human lives, we send them to, to the,
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to the gates of health. news is mikella. go ahead. i'm really curious cuz news is what is spring note sound. as you're speaking to the camera, you go fast and then neil's, i needed to articulate those notes, share them with the world, mikella gas. go ahead. if you look at some of the people who have actually lost the residents from it so far, it's very few. so far, but we have a clear pets of who they are. many of them young women, some of them mothers and older women with, with children. they already integrated into society, many of them and they are losing their family members who didn't lose their permit to stay here. so they, this law and this practice is splitting up families. and this concept of a refugee taking up space of somebody else is just ridiculous in my view for was, is not taking up a space for anybody else. he's working in denmark, he's
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a great resource to the mike. i'm so happy that he's here and we have enough base pull all of these refugees that we have taken. we didn't take that many, you know, we have a very, very low rate of refugees compared to the rest of europe. now, just not have any space for these references. turning into immigrants just like there's no place in denmark, you need to go back to syria. i think there's a lot of public support for helping refugees in denmark, but there's not a lot of public support for, for having a huge immigration that the country can control. and i'm gonna say michel, i wish it were right. but this integration is not working. so well, if you look at on employment and crime and things like that, well, it looks pretty bleak, and i think that's the point that then mike has a welfare state. which means that you are entitled to, to some, some internet lavish conditions content compared to a lot of places. and, and if you go back 40 years ago, there was
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a round of 50000 non western immigrants in denmark analysis around half a 1000000. and i know to american listeners that might not be very much but, but in denmark, which has around 6000000 population, that's actually the biggest demographic shift ever in danish history. you have to go back to the, i'm a to something and they're simply not public support to continue having an immigration in that magnitude. and i think that was the thing that you arrived in pointing out that what is happening right now is that these refugees, they turn into immigrants and i know perfect. i'll stand that and i would do that the same. if i wasn't, that can do the situation, but i will put something to you because i'm not going to allow you to read your entire notepad because i want to talk to other. so this is sarah. she some human rights watch. and she is saying that it is not safe right now for syrian refugees to go back to syria. haven't gotten to
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a point and respond directly off the back of human rights watch and documented ongoing violations in damascus in damascus. countryside that relate to the root causes, her weiss syrian refugees has been displaced. this includes arbitrary arrest and miss treatment by all parties of the conflict, including the syrian security services, catastrophic humanitarian conditions, lack of lack of health care, access, lack of shelter, lack of food, continued abuse his experience by hearing population inside the damascus in damascus, governor it all leading us to the conclusion that syria and the massacres are not safe for return. no, go ahead. well, i can totally understand that argument, but there's a lot of places, sadly in the dictators and they don't have good condition. so you can also argue,
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what about people who lives in back that what about people who live in san on yemen? what about people who live in mogadishu and, and felons decision is that the country in the world are ruled by dictators. and i wish that you ok, we're sending people back to take us from them. and once it's is being sent back. but if you do lose your residence permit and denmark, well then you will have denmark. i'm in, but that, that different reasons. but getting residents probably then secured, and then you will not have the rest of the permanent vote. but if you're flexible and general violence and the area came from, there's no more war. does no more violence, decent that magnitude. well then, the chance that the, the refugee appeals board will re send your reference permit, but it doesn't make, make sense to send an old woman like i just received a message today as an old woman. her son is a danish citizen. and,
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and her then been revoked today. how, how does that make sense? and in another world, again, we are, we are going back to, to immigration. and it's like again, we treat people like a gog and, and some something in the society and did demographic is changing and something human beings life and you send them back to the war zone, whatever, whatever they came from it's, it's a problem. it's a threat in their lives and i put in the under some people exaggerated and call and it's psychological terror daily in these people's life. they can't go to school, they are anxious about about their, their home life and back home. it dope. after 17 years after all of the reports, and then you are,
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you are saying about the human rights watch report. and in the situation on syria in syria, that this is argument. this is not argument, this is, this is a report and they are, it's not like, you know, some, i'm not sure who are making this decision if organization and saying that the situation in syria is not safe for people to return. and if i will go, if i may have a few seconds for me, let's say refugees at least need 17 years to you can't ask a person who build his new life in the new society, 17 years. ok? you don't have a place here. go back to so he is not accepted here and not accepted in, in the home country if we call the home country. guess if i may, i want to bring in the, i'll find out a family to, to give you an example for was gave you 11 example from, from this week. this is the alpha yard family. so mom and the 2 daughters are being
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told they have to lose denmark. the songs are allowed to stay in denmark, because if they went back to syria, they will be recruited into the army would have died. lemme have a look at her story. have a listen to our family. when of a half at a shot for ya, i'm scared of attaining to the area of this a theme that killed my husband and his brother. and i'm scared of being arrested. they may ask me, where are your sons? they must do military service. i came to denmark and i was settled. but now i'm not because i might have to go back to syria. no. but denise your own alice for you. for me more when as true, expected her to be able to stay. i could never imagine her not being able to stay. my mother is sick and she's very depressed. i could never imagine her license not being extended, nor my 2 little sis. my moisture falling is over,
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so i guess we have audience watching on youtube right now. they have some questions for you. i'm going to ask you to respond very briefly so we can get in as many as possible. i will says, why did the danish government taking these refugees in the 1st place if they couldn't give them protection mikaela, you have established that one. while the danish government is trying to balance on a, on a very, very narrow line of human rights, because on one's on one hand, they want to follow the rules and not be expelled from the international society. on the other hand, they're trying to please voters which are becoming more and more in a fabric it because of many reasons. and mainly because of the social democrats and other parties turning around on this issues. so they're trying to keep kind of a balance. so they will revoke some of the residents permits and not others. and in this way, split up families, which is crazy. and i think this family that we saw live here is
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a good example of what we're talking about. because the mother will, will obviously be hard to integrate in denmark. she will have a hard time learning danish, i'm finding a job here because it's not easy. but the young man and her and his young sisters. of course, they will be a resource and an asset to denmark and they can integrate easily. there is no reason to split up this family and refugees is not about integration only or about the benefit of the whole country. it's about protecting, protecting human lives, as was also said, it's about 2 minute terry and rules and about respecting human life. and yes, there are many people in danger all over the world. as news mentioned before. busy and of course, we can't take all of them, but it's a fact that 85 percent of the refugees in the world, in the developing countries, we can, we can very, very few. i hey, i want to put
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a female youtube question because all of us are inspiring more thoughts and, and they really want understand what's going on in denmark. tapes. this is few. neil's off each country has a right to choose who comes and stays, and who doesn't. then what has the right to do what it's doing right now. we'll go ahead think briefly and, well, well, yeah, it does. but what we are seeing for the last 40 years in denmark is that we have had what we call an asylum migration where asylum seekers to become immigrants. and i think that the refugee conventions were made at a time when the norm was that the refugees would go back when there was peace in their own country where a lot of germans after the 2nd world war and they went back to germany afterwards. so it's a, it's a fairly new thing and i think that has changed a lot. and also it wrote the public support for helping refugees. because as for the case, refugees to become immigrants in denmark,
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what i'm seeing between the gas, you'll see a movie speaking for robin killer and nodding their heads. we're seeing a deep 4 lines between how they see migration and the impact of while refugees can have a country and whether it's positive and negative. we see that split. but let me just get back to this current. i'm not opposed to immigration, but i think that denmark needs to have control over who gets to immigrate immigrants as a resource in the country. thank you. don't want the ones who are already in the country to stay that i think that when you give asylum, you give it to people who i need of protection. and there's a lot of people in the world who need and protection. so if people don't you protected anymore, i think that those who give up the place to someone who i need to protect because a lot of people in the world who do not receive the protection that they need off the noting of what's going on again back here, this is from the danish minister of immigration and integration. this is really
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important. we spoke to the ministry and they were very clear about what's going on right now with syrian refugees is a denmark has been open and honest from day one. and the reference poet is temporary and that the public can be revolted if the need for protection ceases to exist. we had was earlier disagreeing with that. now the conclusion of the poor, whether it was safer for syrians to go back general security situation, the area in and around the mascot has improved such an extent that the knee for protection for persons who are not individual persecuted, etc, etc. so this is what the danish minister of immigration integration is saying is it is safe, it is safe right now for refugees to go back to syria. but here's the problem. if they don't go back of their own volition, if that temporary residence status is revoked, they can't go to another country. they are put into an immigration center, and that is problematic. i want to just bring up from one of the people earlier
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that we spoke to. this is mckayla put the se, and she's talking about refugees being imprisoned because their temporary status has been revoked. have a listen to mikaela, the refugees refused to return it momentarily. could end up leaving into partition camps in denmark you've been for years. this is far from a durable and sustainable solution. the location of the refugee status is sufficiently grounded to pretty much where and legally they can provide. it should have changed and profound and enduring manner. without the condition to enter into specific, safe parts in order to be protected and free for what do you know about these immigration center seats detention centers? well, this is like open open. i don't know, i don't want to exaggerate him, but you have 3 meals a day in this you know a specific times and you are allowed to go out after a permission and this is my knowledge about it and you are not allowed to work. no
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school, nothing, and maybe a whole family will, will sit in small room and there is no purpose like they can go to the, to their homeland because their life in danger. and they can't leave here in denmark and have, have the opportunity to take a brace and maybe have a chance to contribute or to reclaim because we are talking from refugee to the immigrant. but we are not talking about refugee who become a human human being again, knew of i'm just okay. i think many of these. yeah, yeah. go ahead and go ahead. i have visited all these camps many times. i just wrote a report which is coming out here in june about the petition camp. and they have just been established,
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with the sole purpose of pressuring people to go back voluntarily, so cold, voluntarily, deliberately, as, as empty and as limbo like as you can make life, there is no activities going on. you're not allowed to work. you're not allowed to study, you can leave, you can, you can walk out the door, but you have to come back within 24 hours and you can't go anywhere because they're very, very remote places. so it's like in many ways, i mean even the prison staff say that it's worse than the real prisons in denmark because of rena placement. you have some rights and you have some activities. you can actually do something with your life and you have a future. and a plan when you get out these places just breaking people down really deliberately idea to push people to vanish or. busy to flee under the ground, and we always do many things,
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which they do. and i know one might never go to these places. i heard that anyone would, would, would envy anyone who placed in one of the sensors. but if there is no consequence when your residence permit gets remote in denmark, if you're allowed to stay and to work and to study and to integrate and danish society, well, then you do have migration the well then by would anyone leave when the rest of the permit gets provoked and i can say massage with a lot of blessings. the purpose is so out and but there's some consequences to it. if you say the 7000000 people in syria and i think they all agree that the not all of them would try to get to it. denmark of the west, but a sizable portion of the woods. and if you accept that, it just being in a dictatorship, not just but, but being in it, they said that's so bad a being in a unstable place that's so bad, resettle other places. well,
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what about people in and do us? what about people in middle america? what about people in africa? well, that's really a lot of dance was like the kind of protection funds continues. right. thank you so much. all of you gas. thank you cheated, the commenting on today's show. appreciate you. i will see you next time on the stream. take everybody ah. in the 1st episode of science in a golden age, i'll be exploring the contributions made my scholars during the medieval slamming period in the field of professor jim alca li brings the brilliance of a past and light point. incredible, so much doesn't real. all we've done is lock out them like from a room and then allow it to come to the school talk to one of science in a golden age on 0. a weekly critique of the stories taking the
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