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stories that we've just been talking about in under half an hour. i hope digital media and thanks for watching. ah ah ah ah ah, i am okay to down the street. we're going to bring you the latest on covered 19 in india. of course the story about india 2nd wife made headlines for many weeks. we are not leaving this story behind. so if you're on youtube right now, you've got comments, you've got questions, we have experts in the house today. you can also than anything, and i'm sure they will be out to respond to you. so be part of that conversation.

meanwhile, earlier this week, at the beginning of the week, prime minister modi in india acknowledge the india have multiple challenges, right now. tropical slide close to deal with and also a global pandemic capitalist regard days, booty. we are witnessing how our nation is fighting, covered 19 with full strength. it is the worst pandemic in the past 100 years. and during this, pandemic, india also boldly faced several natural disaster lit, but i will be up about so multiple challenges for india. and how is india feeling? we've covered 900 will politics get in the way? is politics getting in the way? let me introduce you to add gas, we have a new we have thought to thought i li, and hopefully we'll be joined by dr. joe you to as well. but 1st of all, a new welcome back to the stream. nice to see you remind everybody who you are and what you do. hi, sammy, i'm, i know i'm

a health care reporter. i work at a data journalism i'll call in spend the good to have you talk to so many welcome to the stream. tell everybody who you are and what you do. thank you for me. it was a pleasure to join you today. i'm a medical doctor by background, and i work in public health. i specifically work in be aerial. how do we make health systems stronger and more resilient? get to have you thought to join you to welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to our international audience. thank you for having me on visual for me. i'm dr. jerico, i'm a physician and i look up to patients who have who id and other diseases, but i don't treat the i see patients. i read the minute margaret at home care. i guess i, it's so good to happy because you all have, by virtue of being in india, you have point line experience. as the 2nd wave of covert i knew if we were looking for the current headline, what had you on?

i would you tell our audience is important pay attention to what's going on. now. i think the big story was, i think the last time when i was on your show, it was about oxygen and the lack of oxygen logistically, the government has figure that out. but right now, it really is this vaccine crisis because it does. vaccine crisis is a global vaccine crisis. the w 2 s t scientists has just said that there are 91 countries in africa waiting for vaccines because india had committed to supply those vaccine for the w h. all. so indian for not getting the vaccines here, but the, what the world is not getting affecting the, the, i think this is the big, big idea. thank you for sharing that with us on really looking at the numbers for the number of new infections they appear to be going down in any area right now. what are you most concerned about? i think even though the numbers are going down and that is good zeros, we have to be careful because the numbers are still much higher than the highest. we saw during the 1st 900000 at its peak,

and we are still seeing about 150000 a day. so we're still not out of the woods. we still don't know what is happening in a lot of places outside of the metro's. so we really, really need to be on a lot. i've got this huge comment coming freshman. hello, james. nice to have you part of the program today. jane said it was about the amount of cases india is reporting. is that the true amount? i bet there are many cases that are reported and people who have died and then the not sure that they died of cover because they haven't been cas but phone and they want to pick up on that. yeah, i think you know that the registration is generally and reporting is generally an issue in countries like india. so from that angle there is under counting. there is a lack of testing facilities and who delirious. so there are stories of, you know,

3040 deaths in the village out of which may be one or 2 people managed to get a test. so of course very definitely on the counting whether it is deliberate or it is just a function of has system that was not adequately prepared. that is debatable, but definitely there is under counting the jeter once you get a little sense of what your covert 19 2nd wave life is like in india right now. what story would you tell us to give us some insight so this time around as opposed to what we had during the 1st week, life was a little easier. we didn't. we haven't seen these numbers ever. i have not seen these numbers in my life. i've been practicing for a long, long time. this is what we do. this is what we're supposed to be doing. this is what we've signed up for. but i don't think we ever thought that we would sign up for where we were making calls for oxygen. maybe we're making cars to get medicines,

essentially medicines that maybe were making cause to ask for beds, begging for beds or christian beds. i assume it's, i mean the medicine part of it is easy for us. we know what we do, what we have to do. we know what we right, we know what we have to prescribe, but it was heartbreaking to me cause for oxygen because 4 beds. and then having to think that having to tell the families that you know, you're not on your own. i can tell them that you're on your own, but i pretty much had to, you know, say that, that they would have to look around for bed central because and then it was just not me because there were just so many patients who were completely overwhelmed. i knew you're not in your family, you're not in the family guy. yeah, it was just, it was like mad or you know, and i use an analogy for this. it was like for a patient to get care during the crisis during the beak was almost like being in

a storm. and the only way to get shelter is a pile of microscopic lego bricks. and you have to piece together your shelter using those lego bricks. and that's the only way you can be the only way you can be saved from the storm. so it was pretty much unlike anything any all far, was ever prepared for the entire health system sort of came apart. every little piece had to be stitched together by the family, from, you know, getting oxygen to medicines, to getting transport, whether the ambulance has oxygen does not have oxygen. some people was even a case that i was familiar with, where the woman spent 2 days in an ambulance because that was the only way for her to get oxygen. hospitals were running out of oxygen. so even going to a hospital was not a guarantee. you know,

you would get an steady supply of oxygen so which is quite, quite as often do you stay in delhi so that sounds like even in states like, oh yeah, that sounds like the worst moment the worst time. and we saw those pictures of people. oh, my ceiling over gasping for air was as we were covering those stories, but i knew right now the august in crisis appears to have passed. you update this? yeah, i just wanted to reply to that because i think, you know, a lot of people are now referring to this in the past and that we did do these kind of things and we did have these problems. the fred ministers just released the statement. that's a lot of his way. you've kind of bragging about this. now as the success, you know that he and that's all the oxygen problem. but then the question to me really is if this was a solvable problem, if this was something that man could handle, man did not handle, you know, there was a, there's a natural calamity that we're dealing with in terms of the panoramic with this was a logistical issue that we should have handed the we're able to talk about it now

in boston. what it means that they needed to have been who went intervention to have not got up to that place in the 1st place. but only i will, i totally agree with you. know, i totally agree with on much of the crisis that we saw was actually not caused by the virus. it was caused by a lack of foresight, lack of preparedness. last year there was a sort of hubris that was prevailing that somehow indians are somehow naturally immune to the virus which happened in the start which had and after the 1st wave. there were even declarations that by our leaders that india has gotten through the was to fit. so, you know, so there was a certain attitudes which was really not scientific and public health experts. india has excellent public health expertise. india has the resources as we are speaking, india spending about i believe, $140000000.00 on developing on redeveloping the central historical part of delhi.

you know, so we have sufficient resources, we have sumption expertise, but we somehow fail to deploy it adequately to ensure adequate preparedness. we help we help feeling to also have adequate vaccination ramp up. so there is a certain failure of leadership and i would say it is a little bit akin to what is being witnessed in brazil. also though, solely your so nuance that anyone outside of india main dot of call, what you were saying there. and that is where the p j p decides to put them money. that money is available for certain things and attention, certain things and not others like critical health care for india. i'm just making that very clear because that is what you're saying. and we just bring in to check who is concerned about what is happening in rural areas of india. have a listen get. so the why does know sort of spreading to be part of the country and

it's what it's up to even as i see it. number one, that a death of 15 facilities, a number to the gender identity among the population that will india to get tested . the only solution to this problems i see it is if you need an image actually ramping up the number of testing facilities. and as many individuals as possible, isolation the cases and vaccinate to the potential population. i don't think there's any other way a problem and solution to share. what do you think, thoughts on, on when you start 1st and then dot stone, you to you can go 2nd. absolutely. in agreement, we should all, as you know, people of india as the public, we should all keep an eye on the testing rates of our cities and states. and if you see them falling down, we have to raise the human cry. it's the only way to detect

a search early and avoid crude measures like a lockdown, which really hurt the war. and i think i'm totally totally agreement with what was said. but juanita, i completely agree with what was said. in fact, living when the, when the peak of the 2nd, when the testing facilities were not adequate enough, we didn't have enough, as many people who are not get to tested. so the numbers would what, what numbers you see, what the numbers that they have been projected. i would say the least it would say 30 percent more than what was projected. we had families with patients. the families had all of them had symptoms, but only one or 2 people got tested. those were just all assume that they were cool with positive. and they were just given treatment according because there was no testing available. so they have to ramp up testing. they have to get the vaccination and please, and the they have to continue to isolate the patient. education is,

so korea is so important, not just for india and covered 1902nd way, but for all of us around the world. and there's been some very tricky moments for india regarding information education and misinformation. let us start with something that i'm gonna call black fungus, doctor jeter. for then you're going to tell me the medical name for it and why it's coming. a bigger problem. go ahead. so it lets me give it the proper name that's going to call my settings and this fungus i of, you're not sure we are a little bit across through the boat where it's coming from because in the previous leave or to re give that many stated that many patients had uncontrolled sugar, so we're not sure whether it's the stream which is causing the fungus to come up. so you should be what receives this has been this time around because of adrian has been particularly vigilant and has caused indiscriminate

use of the roads. and we've been seeing that patients are being giving high do those theories. and they've been given it for a longer period of time. so this was caused, and india is that the capital of the one, the there lot of people who is sugars of gone undiagnosed richard played up because of the stated that of being given. also took over courses the immune system to did. and this also allows the fungus to grow. so this is one of the reasons why this is coming up for a new critical yeah, go, go, go ahead, go ahead. i was just doing some reporting for a story on this and i think one of the terms that you use is very key. we're talking about missing information. and i think you have had a problem with irrationality and medicine even before this plan. they make those with n c for doctors to you though, i mean some doctors to all the prescribe or patients to demand for medicines. they

may not need for the irrationality. and i think we've seen that happen a lot in the 2nd we've especially on this issue of the lloyd's, which is directly linked to this, to the size of life on this. and a lot of it from what i understand from the doctors who i've spoken to, they said that you know, from the prescription order that they've done. and i think our doctor and then we just spoke with also one of the doctors i wasn't due last week. he was saying that you know, the bulk of the prescriptions to be seen. people who were come to them after already having been on steroids for a very long time and been put on very early on in the course of their diagnosis. so this is irrational and this is miss inflammation really because the patients who are pressurising doctors who put them on some fetus treatment or doctor feeling like they need to do something. and it's some sort of composition that they, you know, kind of feel like they need to adjust for. but all of this is bottom if information, you know, you're not going anywhere. that's why i'm not like, i'm sorry, i'm yeah, yeah, i'm going to jump in over. that guy has been over there. yeah. so what happens is,

what do you do when there is no bed available? what do you do when there's no oxygen available? what do you do when there's no ice? you bet available. what the doctor's doing is he's ramped up the street. i do it, you know, visit w h o c, d c. all doctors, there are guidelines when you have, they've given exact recovery trying to show us this is the exact m g milligram of cedar that is needed. we don't need any more. you don't need any less. and this is the duration of time that it's to be given. but when you don't have oxygen, when you don't have of you don't have beta when you don't have a doctor's good desperate and i have, i myself have seen prescriptions from other doctors where they have given double the doors of single just to ensure that the oxygen come up the they don't need a bed, the fever, draw the c p level, go down. so yes, they have been indiscriminate use and i understand wait there, but i can control that. i can, can do. i'm going to point out to join those saying, i think the owner social responsibility lies where the power is the greatest,

right? so who was the power is that the individual doctor was already in a situation of extreme trauma dealing with patients in a system that fallen apart or does it, is it with our or, you know, scientific institution and are, you know, political leadership guidelines were not updated in a timely manner, which reduces trust in what the government is putting out both public trust and the medical community trust our state guidelines not so it's not just one political party said guidelines and interim guidelines. they still can contain drugs like it will mention as it's from my son, which are no longer recommended for regular patients. so suddenly you cannot just say does drugs without telling us what they do go at so ever met. i think dr. joy, that would be a better place to do this. if i'm acting as an anti parasitic drugs, what role does it have for my to my sen?

yeah, yeah. as it's real nice. and then dr. cycling the antibiotics they have moved to play and or cheating, a virus unless there is a secondary infection which comes up after the 6th or 7th day, the 1st $56.00. they don't, you don't see any. we don't see any of all of an antibiotic in treatment of the virus and the 1st 5 to 6 days. the virus, the effect of the infection after 7 days to be that is when they pneumonia. and they could be a big deal with infection that can happen. that is when you need an antibiotic knock before that. alright, i feel this is a p s. i don't, i don't have it in the i or you're watching this week. it does show you to it's telling you when you should be prescribing antibiotics and you should be if alright, a doctor, i whole tied broke up so many how types of brand, cuz there's more things i want to show you from our audience who are watching with you and i was trying to squeeze the morning. so interesting question here from 0.

could you discuss the misinformation spread? yes, absolutely. so important, i want to do that by chris nash. christian, as he's also concerned about the misinformation, a new come off the back of christmas video comment. let's play the best thing the government can information is going to be accurate information publicly flag misinformation. however, we have seen the government use misinformation. beach was critical, although established also seem the government should accuse this information just got a little dark with a new as right now, but new i'm still gonna ask you for your for your take on this because i understand that you were told that you were not allowed to report on i'm going to use the, the, the public term for this black fungus. and that there are certain information that is not being shared because authorities do not want the information to be shad,

doing a 2nd wave of covert 19. what's the problem? is that a new go ahead? looks like a new has a black out right now because you still hear us. i think so there's a little bit of a thunderstorm i'll say, or i don't the doctors only you can't you pickup because i know you understand the issues here with the management of a narrative about cove it 19 and then getting out good information to people. it feels like there's some tension between those, those 2 missions go ahead. finally. so, you know, i, i seem to understand how signs and evidence based medicine and prescribing the correcting, according to latest medical science is a partisan issue. it should be a non partisan issue. but however, i think governments are struggling to offer some remedy to people. so we still see certain drugs in guidelines, refills, you know,

do not be very precise. clear information coming out, for example, we knew last year how important, good ventilation is. but that was not truly amplified by the media or by the government. but this here, there is talk of ventilation. had me spoken about the importance of, you know, fresh air flow, open windows. you know, i, i do believe we could have reduced a certain number of cases. we only focused on distance. and i think it's really, really important not to copy paste things from a more developed context into countries like india. you know, so we copy pasted social discipline, saying recopy, based on the idea of locked downs without an understanding of the social economic context of developing countries. and we had a very medicalized response to was offend damage, which is not a purely medical issue. so so i think the government needs to really

allow the community and the public health community, the medical community to become a voice or for signs for correct information and not clam down. notices are being issued with say that nobody can speak about, say, the fungal infection we were talking about without prior permission of the government. this does not make sense at the time when the government alone cannot manage everything. it is an unprecedented situation. they need to collaborate with citizen, they need to engage people. they, me to engage experts to you know, to reach to the public. so, you know, very crude measures to control some sources of information. misinformation are not useful. let me finish one more question. this one comes from your site and avo jasa is on youtube. and i will is wondering if the politics from the b j. p

is impacting how well corona virus is being managed in india or after that. so the question i'm going to get to talk to joey to speaking as a medical professional. how is policy either helping or hindering you dot to join into? so i find that is a lot of mixed messaging that is happening by the government. and that hinders of that hinders out of. busy treatment protocol, number one, number 2. let's start with the vaccination. let's start with the resignation, dr. lead all out. we were supposed to be the largest producer of vaccines and lead, although we started off with the health care workers that the started over the above 60 and about $45.00, the co morbid fees, et cetera. the prime minister himself took the that scene, and that was that i think addressed vaccine hesitancy in a huge re yes,

so many followers here. he addressed the lesson is offensive, but then he lost the plot somewhere in between. because of because of signing a deed recall, that's weird because the vaccine could be here to send vaccines all over the world to still be from shock for vaccinating our country. our own countrymen and that's with the 2nd we've up and we should of vaccinated people quickly foster and we should have ordered more pre ordered models, as all the board has ordered, pre ordered, we didn't pre ordered any vaccine doors. so the thread of visual mixed messaging, they can me, oh, they can be they to when the government penzault good to patient holmes, who have tested positive and the did contain a lot of course they do contain. busy more tablets they contain

a bunch talk to me to but they also contain something on a scholarly dr. joe, she can, she can give us a lecture on medicine and cove in 1900 medicine for over an hour. thank you said 25 minutes of your time. we really appreciate you talk to joe you to a new is back and also talk to san ally you on you too. thank you for your questions with the next time. hey kevin ah, ah ah ah, we speak when others don't. ah, we cover all sign. ah,

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