reasons for the depressing fragmentation of the nature for it is because expand patient expansion of human activity such as plantation for example, a t and rubber tree and also some construction for when the forest area is shrinking and the number of elephants rising. an estimated 300 now live in this region. authorities are trying to encourage the family of elephants to return home by blocking roads and luring themselves with truckloads of food. but they're not expecting results over night. more likely they say it'll be slow and steady. katrina, you al jazeera united china ah help out they are. these are the headlines, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu calling on all right wing m. p. 's to oppose a new coalition. power sharing deal announced by opposition parties on wednesday,

and includes a palestinian israeli party for the 1st time fall, right, said natalie bennett is likely to replace nathan. yahoo, if that coalition gets its parliamentary vote, as in yahoo is accused bennett of being a sell out more from harry fulton in western of them. the question is how much nathan? yeah, who can try to peel away some of these right wing as a who for now at least remain part of the coalition in, in utero as it was trying to put it together. and also that the question is when this will take place now, the head of the, of the opposition law paid, who has formed this coalition and has decided to step aside and allow natalie bennett to go 1st as prime minister. he wants to try to unseat the current very netanyahu friendly speaker of the house and have a vote on monday. israel's defense minister, meanwhile, has been meeting us officials in washington as he seeks more military age. benny

gans wants a $1000000000.00 to upgrade israel defenses. dance is also discussing the iran nuclear deal. couple of other headline security forces in sudan of closed off all major roads leading to government and military headquarters in cartoon as active as smart. the 2nd anniversary of the 2900 massacre of peace will protest. and during a pro democracy fit him and officials in northern nigeria say they are negotiating with kidnappers to release $148.00 children. the students were taken on sunday during an armed ride on this school in ted geena. and just a few moments ago, this happens by 6 rocket taking off with more than 100 minutes squid on thousands of microbes on board. they are now hurtling towards the international space station, part of a study to determine the effect of the 0 gravity on micro organisms. also, on board of the 1st 2 of 6 new solar arrays to be installed during spiceworks to

upgrade the stations power capable of the inside stories next with a to w me. ah ah, ah, nature's dangerous decline. a un reports is wanting, planet earth is being run on credit with far more results is being you felt than can be sustained and ecosystems, of being lost like never before. there is a rescue plan, but all we up to the challenge. this is inside story. ah, ah, ah,

hello and welcome to the program. i'm peter w. here in the up now from ocean's to forests and farmland, the world ecosystems are being degraded and destroyed. and the us environment programs as the situation is past the point where conservation alone can turn things around. at the moment, the equivalent of one point fix us on needed to naturally supply of what people are consuming, about 80 percent of the world's population living countries running ecological deficits and encroaching on animal habitats creates ideal conditions. pathogens, likely, one that caused the global pandemic to cross to humans and spread or put another way we are creating a big overlap area between animal and man for more corona viruses. so what do we do for starts as well? the un environment program once a generational restoration to rehabilitate

a 1000000000 hector's of land over the next decade. that's roughly the size of china and the head of the un embalming program. in the anderson told al jazeera, it can be done that be in the heck test that we have over exploded, degraded through our human activity. we need to put it back into working order. why? because we still need to feed the world. we still need to ensure that we can't live as humanity and we can't do that if we continue to degrade the very land that sustains us. so the opportunities, yes, we protect what has not yet been interfered with. but we put back into working landscape that which we have degraded and it is so very doable each one of us know it from our back gardens. if we give that all from the fields where we work, if we give nature half a chance, it will bounce back. it just needs a little helping hand. so this is an initiative where we are working with the

finance sector. obviously, we need to have farming on board and governments, science and communities to move on restoration, but it would be essential for food and for climate. the. okay, let's bring in our guest today on inside story from new delhi. we have chandra bush and ceo of the international forum for environment sustainability and technology or i, forrest in nairobi, cut to civilian c e o of the african wildlife foundation. and joining us from rome is lorenzo monte professor of political economy at the university of pretoria. gentlemen, welcome to your old chandra, present in new delhi, coming to 1st take me through explain to our audience why this is happening faster than it should be happening and still it's happening fast despite all our efforts.

id is a do understand that better just one number for land to good news and the phone numbers on his policy allowed to be graded regardless, his expense will be used as expensive as will be potter as well. now if you want to store, you will have to provide done. it's unfortunate over the last 30 years. we have not be able to quality and there for you as light. and that is the reason why the bigger edition continues. why the far efficient for completion and we put a lot more resources a lot more if you want and that's what i have being. that is what you're saying. like is not on the

easiest way to be. we have a historical experience. all dr. reversed landing. and we have not been able to do it because we all made because i wanted me to do because the largest number of people depend online and the other. so if you really want to reverse the brand, see you just me think about how to get it into problem. how does it again, dependence online, then only at home the most recent bang only be able to do it. okay, that's a lot to talk about here. on inside, sorry, cut his opinion in i robi, we're talking about farmland. we're talking about forests, we're talking about the impact on our oceans. do we need to break it down into those 3 specific areas or should we just be calling it an ecosystem? me, i would like to see what was as we talk today,

we had all these what color, what color we pay pointed to be like really it's multiplied by maybe by adding or gold and told that a few people maybe $1.00 of these all these while that's where the issue repeated by another toys him, but this is maybe you know, my lorenza fear a monte in rome. this document, this report, this clarion call for all of us to do something,

uses the word nature. forgive me if was about to say, sounds very naive in the context of what we're discussing here. what is nature? it does feel like a very old fashioned word. why it's a very important one. it's all of us. we need to realize and understand it. we're a part of nature. we have forgotten that for so long and i think covered reminded us a little bit rate that you know, we die, we get sick, we thought we were not getting sick anymore. we die, we get sick. it's enough that we are out of balance with our natural system. and so we may experience tremendous terrible economic consequences. and i think, you know, and i think i'm happy to be part of this debate and to be calling from rome. because i don't want to become a debate about what the developing world needs to do, right? the lender gradation has happened in the west long before it happened in asia and africa. deforestation as massively happening europe. and so it's not just a problem for the so called developing world, but it's a problem for everyone. and it's time that we start realizing that we need to

reforest the world. we need to start wilding cities in europe. we need to start re wilding cities in north america. we need to start being imbalance with systems every word. this shouldn't be just a target, a task or you know, other continents and needs to be a global effort. and when that happens, believe me, the ability that nature has to restore itself to progress quickly and to counter some of the must. the negative effects of climate change is, is extremely impressive. so we need to be part of the process. that's what nature is. we need to be part of nature and facilitate this restoration process. we're going to enjoy the consequences, not just as, as natural beings, but also as it cannot be, beings is going to be a good thing for the economy is going to be a good thing for our personal health chunk of the sun. and usually that point that lorenzo in rome makes, i mean, in anderson in the sun, by that we played at the top of the show, she kind of nails that she says the planet can fix itself very quickly and it will

fix itself. but we've got to give the planet the tools to do that. did we see that, or a glimpse of that during the height of the kobe 19 pandemic around the world? talking about, you know, lorenzo about re wilding our cities and times we saw wild life coming back into our cities, not times around the world. we saw pollution levels drop. we saw asian generated pollution levels drop, and we saw people sun by after sun, by on this channel on every new channel thing. oh, i used to live in a very polluted area. it's not polluted now because nobody's traveling any place. no, absolutely. i only saw one degree in bottom. it looks like, you know, just wanted to just, i'm going to see him in a clearing which we had not seen an agenda. so yes, of course people saw why like people, you know, we had the walker. all that was gone, but ultimately they, connie,

the shut up tremendously even funds. now that also tells you how deeply in the environment is that you've been on the story that they've gone on this, you know, can drop the what, you know if they're gone, i'm a story best one. it just now got going to be in the middle 1960 as well. we had, you know, you know, meant getting in bottom of that. but we had the boonies gone in the pony to came after that we had the market in the us. so both bands have all of a lot of we also saw what happened in stimulus beauty, the finding that they lived in that community. so i am not sure that the learning lessons, you know, it is very nice to speak about all the environment and that it

is doable. but when it comes to that drops, book and stimulus as policy, i do not see you know, moment green. okay. okay, let me just kind of boil that point down shondra and put i think what you're saying to cut his opinion in ny robi cut it. i'm guessing you will. nodding quite enthusiastically. they're listening to trying to get on a new deli, i'm guessing here from your vantage point. you need to see the developing countries being engaged in a dialogue with the developed countries. so the developed countries cannot adopt the, the sort of quiz i ecosystem moral high ground here and tell the developing countries what to do. this is a 2 way street of co operation. otherwise inequalities will get greater surely. how do i, how am i? because the, a lot of what i'm going to be people today is

i don't know, maybe it's going to the pages or how what model is going to be developed. that's why i didn't point to made its way up the all the north america euro taken on the mobile plan. i didn't find a model like the held by contract and all the way we tell them a lot. no, no. well, no,

it's going to be climate change. we know how to do better from, from the way you know, we got our hiring. i got one couple in the old to we all want to be on be just fine. but a lot of he's already in that maybe. ok. we know that young today i'm good. how does level where we know that climate change,

informational i mean ok. lorenzo let's just go back to the model. ok puts me for interrupting. i just want to go to learn to enroll. now there is a going back to that idea of re wilding towns, cities are urban and rural areas. the percentage statistics contained in this report make convincingly thing. because if you basically take 15 percent of industrialized and i'm including industrialize farming here, industrialized land around the world, back to what it used to be. you can stop literally stop dead 60 percent of predicted species extinctions by the year 2030. that's a very easy equation. and yet prime ministers, presidents, economy, ministers, finance ministers, energy ministers around the world. they don't seem to be particularly engaging with a very simple message or, i mean to put it another way. i think it was gandy that said,

be the change you want to be and work with people. yeah. to paraphrase what gandy said, or michael jackson said, you want to see the world? yes. some change you want to see in the world, nelson mandela. some very clinical clara, and i said, how do we get how do we get people to do this? do we tax them or do we incentivize them? there are many tools. let me, let me also emphasize the fact that prime ministers and governments are wrong debbie, wrong for a long period of time. i think governments have been socialized into different understanding of economic development. i think more and more people are realizing that our concept of economic growth has to be completely re thought. one are my friends from, from india and from kenya were saying, you know, the developed world has to help the developing world. i would go even further. i would say that the world has to take responsibility for what it has done. the damage is generated and also realize that he doesn't, you know, it's not, it's not an example. shouldn't be an example for the rest of the world. and when

you look at the whole planet, there are many interesting experiences. for instance, tools like payments, burger system services, paying farmers not to destroy nature, but to actually to, to restore and support ecosystems. because ecosystems play a very important function, the economy supporting governments and stage that protect mother nature that protect wild life. and as part of global taxation mechanism, we should have a global tax that should go the proceedings should go to those governments. but half wild, nate, sorry, nature reserves and so on and so forth. we should also have incentives because people react incentives to consume better, not to consume more, but to consume better is to shift between more and better means changing the world . and instead, because of our session with economic growth, which i consider a stupid economic model, we continued thinking that you don't need to develop. we need to consume more with generating waste. and we have a lot of health and environmental issues to deal with. it's a very expensive system, so consuming better rather than consuming more. our fiscal methods have to change.

it's not hard. interestingly, academics have long argued that we do have all the tools, the natural tools, the financial tools to do so. what is now missing is the political will, and i think this is the time after covered for everyone to unite behind as report and behind these. thanks to say, we don't want to wait anymore. we want a better economy. we don't want to die of the next than damage. we want to make sure that our natural conditions will be ideal for life. and we want to make sure that we're not gonna experience so much poverty and so much depression. because that turns into migration that turns into google problem, and it's again impacting our economy. if we want to save our economy, we have to save our plan, john, to send back to you in new delhi, 0 point one percent of global g d p would get us out of this toxic whole. but in case people think, we're just all sitting here, slacking off merrily. international governments and prime ministers and presidents year on year globally, we spend more than

a $130000000000.00 on helping nature, which countries are doing it right. which countries are doing it wrong? i don't think any country is this is not a black and white on. sometimes these are trying to do a right, getting it right or not. but speaking i think got it. well, the reliance on government is also a problem. if we really want to revise and then the involvement sector in community is equally reliable, the governments by the law would be what happens in the nation. i think we now have a good job with communities and ready to come together and, and provide a helping hand as well. i don't do and i'll communities we have experience probably around the world,

but the movie management wasn't ready if you get the right community, the mileage bought us than mine is very much better than what government i started reading 2nd one. i have to walk right now, that is people them, not people must be describing. so government but the community and the private sector also have to get involved in again. and also making sure that the beginning of the reason that we are talking about has some big cut us opinion, nairobi, it would be a foolhardy, perhaps kenyon prime minister that taxed people into being good for the planet. the same would apply to the indian prime minister and also the italian prime minister. and in my case, the british premier as well. but we spend as a global community,

we spend trillions of dollars a year looking after our sells. so how do we re purpose that expenditure so safer for every 1000 rails i spend in doha tan, re els goes to something that is good for the planet. how does that happen? i think it's going to be changing. it's all based on what we talked about. we talked on similar for law and somehow we may have been going to need to be able to take short of all time when we see that how we be painted or nature in the fall or whether or not

that we take care. oh, well, what we need for our culture and we knew we didn't talk about the whole, but we need to follow the the simulation you know, what are the you know what i mean? the problem is horrible. right? so you want to how i think that recently when depending about way on the home should be how well, how to like what, what it'll

be easy to read faithfully. so what, what ok, look like, a big part of all i did provide me learn what is lorenzo in rome, if this is not done and done soon because there's definitely a sense of urgency now coming from people like the report authors here. is this a crisis that is irreversible financial? yes. and it will have not only an extension or it will be not only an extension threat, but it will be also an immediate financial threat. i, you know, i understand that a lot of people don't care about existential threats. they don't care about plenary destruction. although i think intelligent species should actually care about it. a

lot of people care about their pockets. well, let me be very clear. if we don't take care of this crisis, we're going to have to be a lot of money. jobs will be lost, livelihoods will be gone, property values will drop. i mean, it's already happened. i mean, look at florida, you know, estate value and properties have dropped in and, and market prices because of the risk of natural disasters to the same as that's happened is happening on the strain. rich, people have lost a lot of money for not taking care of the, you know, the land and the environment within which their lives. so this is, i'm just, i'm trying to say this because it needs to be clear. first and foremost, that this is a problem for everyone. it's also a financial and economic problem. if we don't take care of it, we can do, we should have done a lot years ago. we haven't done it because we have denied the crisis. then we have postpone decisions. now we're still, you know, delay dialing not not taking, not taking spending on the fan. so looking at apps and this is becoming more expensive every, every minute we wait. and again,

to report tells us that we know exactly what needs to be done and what needs to be done. it's not going to lead us towards a worse, you know, personal, social and human condition. it's going to lead us into a better economy. it's going to lead us into an economy that is going to be more prospers and also that is going to allow us to thrive better. we're, we're not going to have to spend so much money to treat ourselves. we're not going to get as sick as we get now. we're not going to have so many social ills as we do have now. so it's a desirable economy. it's what i call a wealthy economy. so not understanding us, which was just apparation not understanding that if we separate human beings from nature, both are going to move. this is really an element of stupidity in our species. and i think overcoming testability will be the most incredible important step of our generation gentle. and that's an apt point to draw our discussion to a close, a thought provoking conversation, say thank you very much for joining us. they were, i guess, gender push on cut siblings and lorenzo monte and thank you to for your company and

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