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military company, the united states and the motor with countries in our region will have a major role in ensuring the success of this process. and in our meeting with your permission to present you complete policy that will lead us there. these very days iran continues to develop nuclear weapons and continues to malicious throughout denise be clear. iran is 1st and foremost a global and regional problem. and it is also and then the stench of threat to israel as its own leaders openly declare. i am. i am well aware of the important dialogue about the future agreement,
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which we stock. it's nuclear element. stoping. iran is certainly a shared strategic me of united states. europe, the countries in delays. and he's read and for the people of iran is for it is with they don't deserve a government that will devote itself to solving read problems. rather than developing weapons of mass destruction to threaten other people. our dialogue is so important to ensuring that any effectively meets its goal of keeping you around the way from nuclear weapon. of course, giving the scope of the threat. israel must always make sure that
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it has the ability to protect it, so we will continue this important strategic dialogue in private discussion and by dead men, only. not in the media. oh, in the probably in oil approval, provoking way. i am sure the through open dialogue behind closed doors and district in the spirit of cooperation. and good will we can achieve our go. finally, mister secretary watching a news conference with ben again. is there any defense? mister lloyd austin, the us defense secretary, us defense secretary reiterating his administration's commitment to israel security saying it is on clad. and the israeli defense, mr. restating their fears about to iran influence in the region that move you in around half now. now it's the street. ah
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ah ah ah ah, the irish national anthem is playing as the irish flag ascends the trickle or offends in ramallah. i know i wasn't the only person who did a double take on seeing this video. i didn't, right now if it says your opinion, country to call israel's illegal sediments on palestinian land, 80 fact annexation. so what we're seeing back here is irish palestinian solidarity, and that is the theme for today's show. i'm from you. okay. and you're watching the
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stream ah, in joining us to have this conversation, we have john, we have a sad and we have ashlyn johnny to get to see you. please introduce yourself to our audience, watching the stream. can you send me? how are you? thanks for having a son, john brady is my name. i'm. they should say, spoke person for foreign affairs. the main opposition party in the parliament at all. they're going to have you hello, reside dr. aside as you're known to many around the island and around the world, so get to see you. please introduce yourself to audience watching history. i am a shout of the international spoke space, some of the great marshal return, which are present millions of refugees dream of returning to their homes and property. i can greetings from the island to palestine from the land of sense and
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scholars to the land of that most and still is typical. cherish nice to see you. thanks for being with us on the same and hello ashley. please introduce yourself to us. hi, thanks. so much for having me and my name is ashley nichol place and i am ice chair of the island palestine solidarity campaign. and we've been active since 2002. and it's, it's really basically here. thank you. right to have him. all right, so if you are watching right now on youtube, you can be part of this conversation. island and palestine working together. i know surveys in conversation, right. jump into the comments section. be part of the today show, john, i've got to start with you. this motion where island is saying, that's what israel is doing. a palestinian land is de facto annexation. how did that motion come about and your involvement in it? most pose. it's been a long time. come on. it's taking a long number months to pull together. it demotion, we worked with
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a large number of n jose non governmental organizations and in developing the motion and it really came about was last year. when you may remember, israel made a declaration that they were going to move ahead and annex large parts of the west . bank and under some international pressure de, backed away from the opposition publicly. what we know the reality on the ground was that annexation was continuum is continued and we know that from 1967 we've seen the proration of over 250 illegal colonial settlement units. or settlements within, at the occupied territories, consistent of over 650000 colonial settlers. so we know max ation news happening. we know the land grab of palestinian lands has been happened despite the public position that was declared and accepted by the international
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community. so we brought about that the motion, which was at the beta in the irish parliament and our layer and not just and in terms of making the declaration that israel has legally acted in annexing large parson portions of palestinian land. but also acknowledging at the relief of self determination for the palestinian people who i sat. i'm just looking here on my laptop at some of the images and post underneath that video that i showed of the i was chicken going up in ramallah. and we have free palestine here, lot of supports the palestinians. pillow i are a holding hands together here. historical linking between 2 different peoples. and then here we have the irish flag, the palestinian flood, as a palestinian, who lives in island. what was it like to hear this motion passed
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across all policy lines in island? this is of course, a part of that long legacy of support for us senior people, because the irish people have always been supported. and us, you know, because we're and that the same british colonialism. and we're a page to q 2 from the same colonizer and the same colonized, for example, from belford, who is called the i 634. it's called policy and then also of the blood foot because it is been for who gave his declaration, who promised as i this movement took by this time to them and been the jo changed himself who said that he is as i honest, his grandfather also says the purchase price and then shared, showed himself who brought that black and the island to secure the irish people is
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the same person who sent them to palestine to secure a scene at people. and then i crawled away, who yvan said to the irish people to come out or to help at the same person who was dreaming of as if nicholas living about a senior people from by the side and bring from all over the side and to cause me and me to be g 45. so this, this island has, i don't christmas support. even though before this i think one thing in 1981 i was going to do that and got the irish department at the irish for him. this brayland had at that time, supported athena, right to finish definition, but, but i seen it right to fit the convention. so we have a long history of i have. but again, and then i look as i would support this, not only for stevens, but also that south africans to get their own free time. so let me
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share the conversation with your co pilot ashley. i. i'm just looking here on you cim. we've got baby dough goddess. i have never be more proud to be irish love to palestine on youtube, dead underscore f. salute to the irish people and a government for standing up sticky vanity. all of you should be on the right side of history, this time. estimation, mark ashley, what is going on here? why this moment? why this time? do you think? i think, i think it's been, you know, as i said, the se, in the history between island palestine has always been, there's a huge emotional connection and palestinians of this. it's not just happening now. i think it's been hoping for a long time and it's it's, it's not great that this is the reason you know, all the violence that happened over the last few weeks that this is why it's coming . something is happening now, but the support and ireland is ongoing. it's, it's daily like with our, with our organization and many other organizations in ireland and the work that's
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being done by people is, you know, tired us, we have constant speakers. we, we have engaged with the media and we have, you know, we have a lot of connections with people in palestine and we support the bts movement. and we're constantly, you know, campaigns are ongoing all the time. so it is constant. and it is really great that this, this is happen where, you know, obviously it's a huge, you know, it's a huge moment because we're the 1st country in europe and for this to happen, i hope there's will and, but i think, you know, i think now people everything is a lot more visible now. maybe there's a lot of media coverage, palestinian voices i might be heard now and you know, kind of arising within palestinian people as well, which is it's really good to see. so i think i think it's just people are more aware and people want to help them. the salmon salad with palestine. so yeah. so
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when you think that it's not that he told us about the history of the solidarity between irish people and palestinians. but what i really love from what you are doing is i, this is contemporary right now. so when palestine is when the times when we could travel before covert with allison, you behaved to islands when you're coasted. guess because what was got you like, what is that? so it's, it's amazing to have people here. they come over and you know, they're always so strong and you know, and just bringing people to, to call and we have various different types of speakers. we could have, you know, we've had children come from and refugee camps in back and dancing and we brought them i think i have the power steering dancing. ok, great, thank you. it was just catching, i just had no problem there with your audio, but we can right now. no worries. john, i'm, i'm going to play this. have
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a listen. this is, this is dublin midway. ok. the people running that in dublin in support of palestinians who up in eastern conflict and violence and caught up on the golf strip with violence as well. the tiny make for this motion is incredible. yeah, the, the timing worked. i was well on unfortunately, in many regards we know the situation and show and sell one and east jerusalem with the force the fictions, the raid on the like some mosque. all of this obviously came as
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a backdrop. and obviously the around this brutal military assault on the count has a strip which seems 66 children in butchered boy at the is railey apartheid regime over 260 civilians. and you know, the targeted assault on civilian infrastructure in all houses, media outlets all been destroyed in the assault. and of course we had the un security council facing on the hands for 10 or 11 days before they even came to a decision around a statement. you know, calling for restraint on a see far so the motion obviously came ahead with all the dates as a backdrop and it's certainly focused at the mayans of politicians across the political deployed. but there has always been, you know, i suppose support from the irish people and back in 2014, at the irish parliament date resolution unanimously to recognize the state of
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palestine. no, unfortunately we're still waiting for that to be enacted. the t shock, the prime minister, violent of, if you want to call them, that simply has to make a formal declaration to officially recognized at the state of palestine. so that still hasn't happened. i'm conscious that with the passing of this motion, it is historic. it's, it's really important, it's a declaration that israel has preached international law poly annexing parcel, empty, occupied territories, but has not to stop there shouldn't stop there because there has to be consequences . and that's where the conversation now needs to turn to what is the iris cone going to do to punish a law breaker? it is not good enough. you know, just to past is motion, because we've had so many words of condemnation from governments across the world. but no actions to follow, and that's what's allowed israel to act which perceive them. pianist, you know,
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to carry on the annexation the country on the forced evictions and demolitions carry on the brutal military occupation of palestinian lands, which obviously we same play of, horrifically in gaza, only a couple of weeks ago. so i thought i'm going to bring in a new voice this conversation. this is mona sir bella. mono sevalla is a human rights advocate. she has a really important question. have a listen to home, the video, and then also it immediately if you are able to when we need to do not just art and is to address the root causes and recognize the root causes of palestinians. struggle from the ethnic, cleansing of palestinians to the crime of apartheid to the next station of territory. and countries like those in the you must not adopt the standards and how the law is clickable, depending on the circumstances. sanctions were imposed in the case of russia when
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the next territory in the ukraine. why is the same that happening in the case of israel? yes, indeed. i think i think that the only one of the countries should, should not use but based on the policy because they should address that also cause the approaching the ethnic cleansing of that. but i've seen it ever since 1948. and then i think countries use, especially the island a very, very important part in that freedom of south africa. and a smile said one was the chairman of the party movement in ireland. and i wasn't about at the time. he said that our victory of apartheid was, you know, small major to that did the cation and a struggle and sacrifices of the irish people. so i think you're be and can do
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more than it showed that you should, there must take action action speak louder than words there must. and both sanctions on those one there must bring loose water coming to the prize. there must die fixed it from them. they must implement that you will and resolution your what resolution 194, which called for about right over and composition of all part of scenery for use will have be uprooted. but there are various movement that is there. we should 3236, which chords for our i to says munition, our right over an hour after hour after serenity, our right to use or put me to resist our enemy. so i think europe can do, i'm not, europe should stop using this, but a standard policy, right. europe and america. and i'm, and i come in on that point because i sorry. and so it's a very important point because to share hypocrisy here. and i choose from the
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european human, but the international community as well. and i was speaking in the irish part of last night when we had to stay 8 months on the situation and bell roofs. and you know, there was sanctions and imposed on by lucia immediately. after the hijacking of an irish aircraft to arrest a journalist and sanctions imposed on russia immediately after am alex and crimea. and yes, here we have a gross violated our serial for a later international law of humanitarian law and has been allowed to get away with it. for decades, we have a country that has been investigated by the international criminal court only last week at the united nations human rights council have called for an independent investor which i'm not sure and in terms of the human rights violations, as a child also one israel we also in the israel embassy in
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island, which would be back there, which would join us and they refuse. but we didn't want to go to this. let me just show this to you. i know you've seen it, but this is really for the benefit of our audience. israel outright rejects island outrageous and basis position regarding israeli communities in your day and somalia . this position reflects a blatantly one sided and simplicity policy. john, your policy simplistic? well sir, certainly not as it's not my policy, it's a policy. and a sudden mentioned you want to security council resolutions to have been panel. so this is an international position. me and resolution to tree tree for which you know, defines the palestinian and when we know does, you know, israel is as serial violator of many resolutions. i mentioned the fact that they are being investigated. so am i surprised the israel's foreign ministry,
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or all of us would, you know, criticize or condemn the irish position? absolutely not. i. and the arrogance shows no to can i just jump in there, larger. and it is, you know, we've seen recently that the reports to human rights watch reports, reports say, you know, it's been declared by human rights organizations that this is apartheid. and we need to use the language more. and we need to, it's shameful that it's taking this love and it's great that this motion is in place now. what action needs to happen and not just in ireland, international support is huge. the board and palestine and there was the type. it's always the time to do, but now what we have is motion. we need to keep pushing and for, for more support for sanctions, for meaningful, meaningful support, and not just where it shall. and so i'm so glad you said that. i think it's an all of i guess because there is what, what happened with this motion? it's historical. you are standing out there beyond any of
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a european union country. let me show our audience a few pictures here on my laptop. and a lot of this is still good stuff. a group was i was off is filmmakers and others projecting a video, solidarity with the people of gaza. and then we go to the irish parliament members, way more to palestinians symbols. all right, so we're, we're seeing the symbolism bought that there is no way right now the island is going to say we're going to boycott because in asia, not happening john. you know, that's no sense. and also you haven't, you haven't acknowledged palestine as a country yet, so it feel it good. what's the action? while there needs to be actions because pass and emotion. what was wanting and without consequences and to hold israel to account, it's meaningless. and that's where the conversation now needs to turn because it's the iris 2 years ago, 3 years ago that was
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a piece of legislation that was brought forward an ard and the occupied territories bill and the irish government blocked us and that was the trade of goods from the occupied terrace. can't. why do you go? well, look, date they can explain that themselves. they've hidden behind you. they tell you the incorrect. well they said they hid behind faults, legal advice, and i, i think with a red herring, i don't think there's any trails on that. but now that needs to come back onto the table because until there are sanctions and imposed on is right, they will continue to act. and the irish people are demanding is there was a petition 100 into at the minister of foreign affairs, simon colon. these office. yes. the 88000 people signed the petition calling for the expulsion of israeli. i'm a sitter today students from trinity college in ireland and occupied a me offices demanding sanctioned immediately on the brutal apartheid israeli
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system. so the irish people will not allow the irish government to sit on their hands here. they are demanding up to take action uninterrupted. hopefully, that will act as capitalist for not just order your to pain countries to follow who but more importantly, led to be the start of and nancy, a power type movement that needs to happen internationally. force, you know, israel to a chair, to in my area law on to international law and to ensure the palestinian people have the right to self determination. john, i want to get and, and a sod and actually want to get one more comment into the program. and this comes from a counsel member of sion same, which is the same party as john's party in the party, the any push for this motion to happen. and he is talking about practical action. ashlyn becomes the back of this video comment. ireland has a long history of supporting the palestinians and demanding freedom for palestine. i firmly believe that comes from a place where we ourselves suffered at the hands of petition peer to them. but the
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support of palestine is broadened and deep in the last few weeks. and reached a point where the irish government support should fan motion the katy cars and then to fact months, the boy cost divestment and sanctions against. you really said most importantly, it also stated that the sacraments are wrong and they, they are annexation of palestinian man, which is a crime under international law. and now what we need to do is work together with other countries and ensure that is really how to account for that crime. yes, so we can yeah, i completely agree in terms of what we do as a solid darcy organization and we currently have a campaign called departs like free zones which we are planning on having as many organizations businesses. and you know, if you're a cancer, you can sign off the community group and you can declare yourself apart by free am which we hope to carry across items. and that's, you know,
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from our perspective what we can do, we can push, you know, people to do that from the government perspective. they need to push sanctions. you know, i think together it will be stronger on youtube. we have, could she key? we're key. thank you. for watching the show such a good question, i'm going to give our guests 30 seconds to answer this question. how would the irish actions impact the life of the average palestinian people? you have 30 seconds, you can do one arts and one word you can do it in one sentence. ashley. i, i think continued solidarity and pressure. and we'll, we'll keep going. we've been doing this for a long time and we won't stop until palestine is free. people have the right to return and the demands of the people are mess. we'll keep going john. i think it's getting palestinian people a little bit of hope. i'm conscious that this is one break. remove from a much of a part of the wall and put a has given published indian people hope that somebody,
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a country somewhere is prepared to take a stand and call it as it is a part i'll use a legal under international law. a sad, what difference does it make? how will this affect every day palestinians in their lives? yeah, this is, this is very important because now for us that they know that it once island announced that this is illegal annexation illegal exhibition. mean, what does it mean? because inefficient mean ethnic cleansing, pumping out more finance and pumping on more use and combining more land and making more refugees and homeless people. and this is why, by translating this notion into practice and then by supporting it for more action push, i sanction building that is what investor there i'm posing on embargo. i hope it took up quite a few people, but it is not list. i don't, there are all people i tell you. thank you for loving. i did read
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