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that designate adult, had made the task of fixing a war torn economy. counting the cost on al jazeera, nature's dangerous decline, a un reports is wanting planet earth is being run on credit with far more resources being used, felt than can be sustained and ecosystems of being lost, like never before. there is a rescue plan, but all we up to the challenge. this is insight story. ah, ah, hello and welcome to the program. i'm pete adobe. here in up know from oceans to forests and farmland. the world's ecosystems are being degraded and destroyed, and the us environment program says the situation is past the point where conservation alone can turn things around. at the moment,

the equivalent of 1.6 us on needed to naturally supply what people are consuming, about 80 percent of the world's population live in countries running ecological deficits and encroaching on animal habitats creates ideal conditions for pathogens . likely, one that caused the global pandemic to cross to humans and spread or put another way we are creating a big overlap area between animal and man. for more corona viruses. so what do we do for starters? well, the u. n. environment program once a generational restoration to rehabilitate a 1000000000 hector's of land over the next decade. that's roughly the size of china. and the head of the us environment program in the anderson told al jazeera it can be done that be in the heck test that we have over exploded, degraded through our human activity. we need to put it back into working order. why?

because we still need to feed the world, we still need to ensure that we can't live as humanity. and we can't do that if we continue to degrade the very land that sustains us. so the opportunities, yes, we protect what has not yet been interfered with. but we put back into working landscape that which we have degraded and it is so very doable each one of us know it from our back gardens. if we give that all from the fields where we work, if we give nature half a chance, it will bounce back. it just needs a little helping hand. so this is an initiative where we are working with the finance sector. obviously, we need to have farming on board and government science and communities to move on restoration, but it would be essential for food and for climate. the . okay,

let's bring in our guest today on inside story from new delhi. we have chandra bush and ceo of the international forum for environment sustainability and technology or i, forrest in nairobi, cut to civilian c e o of the african wildlife foundation. and joining us from rome is lorenzo sierra monte professor of political economy at the university of pretoria. gentlemen, welcome to old chandra, present in new delhi. coming to 1st, take me through explain to our audience why this is happening faster than it should be happening. and still it's happening fast despite all our efforts. id is in, want to do that better phone number for land. good news and the phone numbers will be that is polity in line to be graded because it is extensively used especially used by people who potter. and now if you want to be your store,

you will have to provide a gun. it's unfortunate over the last 30 years, you have not be able to be quality and therefore you run line as you like. and that is the reason why you got why before patients and physician and we put a lot more resources a lot more if you want to get this thing and that's what i have being. that is what you're saying. lag is not on the easiest way to be. we have a historical experience all dr. reverse landrick and you have not been able to do it because we all made because i wanted me to do because the largest number of people depend online and the other people. so if you really want

to see just me, think about how do you, how does that against intensive dependence online then only at home, the most resources they need to be able to do it. okay, that's a lot to talk about here on insights. so he cut his opinion in, nairobi, we're talking about farmland, we're talking about forests, we're talking about the impact on our oceans. do we need to break it down into those 3 specific areas or should we just be calling it an ecosystem? me see, so i thought it was as we talked today, we cut out all those things. what color, what color we pointed to the base like it's really it's multiplied by maybe

all gold and maybe one of these all these while that is where the issue, but it's a whole lot of toys. but the issue is maybe you know, my focus, lorenza, fear, monte in rome, this document, this report, this clarion call for all of us to do something, uses the word nature. forgive me if was about to say, sounds very naive in the context of what we're discussing. here, what is nature? it does feel like a very old fashioned word. why it's a very important one. it's all of us. we need to realize and understand it. we're a part of nature. we have forgotten that for so long. and i think covered reminded

us a little bit right that, you know, we die, we get sick, we thought we were not getting sick anymore. we die, we get sick. it's enough that we are out of balance with our natural system. and so we may experience tremendous terrible economic consequences. and i think, you know, and i think i'm happy to be part of this debate and to be calling from rome. because i don't want to become a debate about what the developing world needs to do, right. the lender gradation has happened in the west long before it happened in asia and africa. deforestation as massively happen in europe. and so it's not just a problem for dis, well, developing world, but it's a problem for everyone. and it's time that we start realizing that we need to reforest the world. we need to start wilding cities in europe. we need to start re wilding cities in north america. we need to start being imbalance widicker systems . every word. this shouldn't be just a target a task or you know, other continents. it needs to be a global effort. and when that happens, believe me, the ability that nature has to restore itself to progress quickly and to counter

some of the must. the negative effects of climate change is extremely impressive. so we need to be part of the process. that's what nature is. we need to be part of nature and facilitate the restoration process. we're going to enjoy the consequences, not just as, as natural beings, but also if it can be it's going to be a good thing for the economy. is going to be a good thing for our personal health chunk of the sun. and usually that point that lorenzo in rome makes, i mean, in anderson in the sun, by that we played at the top of the show, she kind of nails that she says the planet can fix itself very quickly and it will fix itself. but we've got to give the planet the tools to do that. did we see that, or a glimpse of that during the height of the cobra. 19 pandemic around the world, talking about, you know, lorenzo was talking about re wilding our cities and times we saw wildlife coming back into our cities, not times around the world. we saw pollution levels drop. we saw asian generated

pollution levels drop, and we saw people sun by after sun, by on this channel on every new channel thing. oh, i used to live in a very polluted area. it's not polluted now because nobody's traveling any place. no, absolutely. i only saw one degree in bottom. it looks like, you know, just 100 kilometers from going to see him in appearing. we had an agenda, so yes, of course people saw why, like, you know, we had the walker. all that was good, but my name is connie, the shar, doesn't even funds. now that also tells you how deeply in the environment is that you've been on the story that they've gone on this, you know, going to drop the what, you know gone. i'm a story best one. it just now got going to be in the middle

1960 as well. we had, you know, improvement getting in bottom of that. but we had gone in the pony to came after that we had the national marketing for us. so both bands have already been very moderate. we also saw what happened in stimulus beauty, the finding that a month and also be in that community. so i am not sure that the learning lessons that you know, it is very nice to speak about all the environment and that it is doable. but when it comes to that drops, bulletin comes up stimulus as well as policy. i do not see you know, moment was green. okay. okay. let me just kinda boil that point down shondra and put, i think what you're saying to cut a super new in nie robi cutter. i'm guessing you will. nodding quite

enthusiastically that listening to trying to get on a new deli, i'm guessing here from your vantage point, you need to see the developing countries being engaged in a dialogue with the developed countries. so the developed countries cannot adopt the, the sort of quiz i ecosystem moral high ground here and tell the developing countries what to do. this is a 2 way street of cooperation. otherwise, inequalities will get greater. surely. i don't recall what people today. it's not, i don't know, maybe it's going to be pages or how but it might what model is going to be developed?

that's why i made its way up all the time is not america euro take in the mobile model like held by contract and all the ways we tell them now. i know well, no, it's going to be climate change. we know how to do fellow from from the way you know, we got our hiring. i got one

couple in the old to we all want to be on be just like a lot of re caulk. he's already in that. ok. we know that young today i'm not going to give you the portal. how does it live? what we know that quantitative i mean ok. lorenzo let's just go back to the mobile. ok, pardon me for interrupting. i just want to go to learn to enroll. now, there is a going back to that idea of re wilding towns, cities are urban and rural areas. the percentage statistics contained in this

report make convincing reading. because if you basically take 15 percent of industrialized and i'm including industrialized farming here, industrialized land around the world, back to what it used to be. you can stop literally stop dead 60 percent of predicted species extinctions by the year 2030. that's a very easy equation. and yet prime ministers, presidents, economy, ministers, finance ministers, energy ministers around the world. they don't seem to be particularly engaging with a very simple message or, i mean to put it another way. i think it was gandy that said, be the change you want to be and work with people. yeah. to paraphrase what gandy said, or michael jackson said, you want to see the world? yes. some change you want to see the world, nelson mandela. some very clever guy clever and i said that how do we get how do we get people to do this, to be tax them or do we incentivize them? there are many tools. let me,

let me also emphasize the fact that prime ministers and governments are wrong debbie, wrong for a long period of time. i think i governments have been socialized into a different understanding of economic development. i think more and more people are realizing that our concept of economic growth has to be completely re thought. one are my friends from, from india and from kenya were saying, you know, the developed world has to help the developing world. i would go even further. i would say that the world has to take responsibility for what it has done. the damage is generated and also realize that he doesn't, you know, it's not, it's not an example. shouldn't be an example for the rest of the world. and when you look at the whole planet, there are many interesting experiences, for instance, tools like payments for the system services, paying farmers not to destroy nature, but to actually to, to restore and support ecosystems. because ecosystems play a very important function, the economy supporting governments and states that protect mother nature that protect wildlife. and as part of global taxation mechanism, we should have

a global tax that should go the proceedings should go to those governments that have wild, nate, sorry, nature reserves and so on, so forth. we should also have incentives because people react incentives to consume better, not to consume more, but to consume better is to shift between more and better. me change in the world and in fed because of our session with economic growth, which i consider a stupid economic model. we continued thinking that you don't need to develop, we need to consume more with generating waste. and then we have a lot of health and environmental issues to deal with. it's a very expensive system, so consuming better rather than consuming more. our fiscal methods have to change. it's not hard. interestingly, academics have long argued that we do have all the tools, the natural tools, the financial tools to do so. what is now missing is the political will. and i think this is the time after covent for everyone to unite behind as report and behind these. thanks to say, we don't want to wait anymore,

we want the better economy. we don't want to die of the next than damage. we want to make sure that our natural conditions will be ideal for life. and we want to make sure that we're not gonna experience so much poverty and so much depression, because that turns into migration that turns into google problem. and it's again impacting our economy. if we want to save our economy, we have to save our plan. shandra sign back to you and you deli, 0 point one percent of global g d p would get us out of this toxic whole. but in case people think, we're just all sitting here, slacking off merrily. international governments and prime ministers and presidents, year on year globally, we spend more than a $130000000000.00 on helping nature, which countries are doing it right. which countries are doing it wrong? i don't think any country is sort of black and white or sometimes these are trying to go right. they are getting it right or not. but speaking i think got it. well, what reliance on government is also

a problem if we really want to revise and then the enrollment sector in community is equally reliable. the governments by the law would be what happens in the nation, the location. i think we now have a good job with communities and to come together and, and provide a helping hand provide the needs as well. i don't do and i'll communities we have seen expedia probably around the world, but the movie management wasn't ready if you committed the manage bought us and mine is very much better than what government i'd rather i'd be happy to walk right now. better people, them not, people dislike the bottom. so if government decline,

the community and the private sector also have to get involved in canada and also making sure that they gave them. the reason that we are talking about has some big cut us opinion in nairobi. it would be a full hardy, perhaps kenyon prime minister that taxed people into being good for the planet. the same would apply to the indian prime minister and also the italian prime minister. and in my case, the british premier as well. but we spend as a global community, we spend trillions of dollars a year looking after our sells. so how do we repurposed that expenditure? so safer for every 1000 rails i spend in doha tan, re els goes to something that is good for the planet. how does that happen?

i think i'm going to be changing this, but at least for now what we've talked about, we talk on simpler for law and somehow we can maybe get a little control panel then it doesn't need to be based on all short of all time when we see how we depend, or the measure in the fall when whether or not we take care. oh, well, what we need for culture and we knew it would come up a whole bunch of things we need and how to pay for it. well,

no. the simulation you know, what are the, you know, what i mean? the problem is horrible. right? so in order to i think that's the reason it's way way not because the racial should be how well how to like what, why do you think? you know it will be written faithfully. so what, what ok, look like. a big part of all is provide me learn

what is lorenzo here in rome? if this is not done and done soon because there's definitely a sense of urgency now coming from people like the report authors here. is this a crisis that is irreversible financially? yes. and it will have not only inexpensive so it will be not only an exponential threat, but it will be also an immediate financial threat. i, you know, i understand that a lot of people don't care about existential threats. they don't care about planetary destruction, although i think the intelligent species should actually care about it. a lot of people care about their pockets. while, let me be very clear. if we don't take care of this crisis, we're gonna have to pay a lot of money. jobs will be lost, livelihoods will be gone, property values will drop, i mean it's already happened. i mean, look at florida, state value and properties have dropped in and market prices because of the risk

of natural disasters to the same as this happened is happening on the street. the rich people have lost a lot of money for not taking care of the, you know, the land and the environment within which their lives. so this is, i'm just, i'm trying to say this because it needs to be clear. first and foremost, that this is a problem for everyone. it's also a financial and kind of problem. if we don't take care of it, we can do, we should have done a lot years ago. we haven't done it because we have denied the crisis. then we have postpone decisions. now we're still, you know, delay dialing not not taking, not taking sitting on the fan. so looking at apps and this is becoming more expensive every, every minute we wait. and again, the report tells us that we know exactly what needs to be done and what needs to be done is not going to lead, is towards a worse, you know, personal, social and human condition is going to lead us into a better economy. it's going to lead us into an economy that is going to be more prospers and also that is going to allow us to thrive better. we're not gonna have

to spend so much money to treat ourselves. we're not going to get as sick as we get now. we're not going to have so many social ills as we do have now. so it's a desirable economy is what i call a wealthy economy. so not understanding this, which was just a ration not understanding that if we separate human beings from nature, both are going to lose is really an element of stupidity in our species. and i think overcoming testability will be the most incredible important step of our generation gentlemen. that's an apt point to draw our discussion to a close, a thought provoking conversation, say thank you very much for joining us. they were our guest gender, push on cut siblings and lorenzo. feel monte, and thank you to for your company. can see the show again. anytime you won't be the website outage or dot com, and for more discussion of our facebook page, that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also follow the chat on twitter at a j insight. story is our handle from me, pete, adobe, and the team here in bo. thanks for watching. we will see you very soon. for the moment. i

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