then it will not be possible to apply for asylum in the center, so people have to cross the sea anyway. so it's just ridiculous to call it kind of humanitarian. the united nations refugee agency wound last month. it could start a race to the bottom. if other european countries followed denmark's policy would be a huge game changer if other counties would follow up is not like the, the pulses of i've seen them thinking can be externalize and saw say, cookie, provided that on. i want to be out, but don't bring all of county just going against. but the concept of the european commission also criticize the move, saying out sourcing asylum claims is not compatible with a you lose the whole thing of the fund raisers. fundamental questions about both the access to 1000 procedures and effective access to protection. it is not available under existing e rules or proposals under the new fact form on migration and this item

marks tightening immigration policies have come after more than 21000 asylum seekers arrived in 2015. it now has a goal of 0 asylum seekers. and in april declared parts of serious sage, it is found to provoking residency permits for some serene roofing genes. it's unclear where denmark anticipates having this 3rd country reception center, but it did sign a memorandum of understanding for future cooperation with her wander in april. charlotte bellis al jazeera. within the last hour we've been listening to russia's president vladimir putin who was speaking at bass and petersburg economic forum. celebrating his country's cove at 19 response, and it's economic recovery. he said that russia's economy is close to returning to pre pandemic levels. thanks to a number of projects that include the completion of a major oil pipeline to settle some of the ongoing vaccination program saying that

the country will open up to foreigners who want to get vaccinations with korea. we've been very swift in deploying vaccines in russia, but we haven't forgotten our friends and we've helped them to. in russia, every citizen has full access to vaccines. there are many immigrants who come to russia and workers as well as those involved and trite. we not only fully supplying our own needs, but also administering to those people who come to russia. president who's also ordered his government to have emissions reduction plan in place by november said that it's a myth that russia is not concerned by climate change. catechism. it also has spoken at the summit, stressing the importance of international cooperation to get economies and health efforts back on track, shake to me and been hum. adult body says that mutual investment is key to helping countries recover. so i'll just 0 inside story.

i've been covering all of latin america for most of my career, but no country is alike, and it's my job to shed light on how and why nature's dangerous decline or un reports is warning. planet earth is being run on credits with far more resources being you felt than can be sustained and ecosystems of being lost like never before. there is a rescue plan, but all we up to the challenge. this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm peter w. here in hop know from ocean's to forests and farmland. the world's ecosystems are being degraded and destroyed. and the us environment program says the situation is past the point where conservation alone can turn things around at the moment,

the equivalent of one point fix us on needed to naturally supply what people are consuming about 80 percent of the world's population living countries running ecological deficits and encroaching on animal habitats creates ideal conditions, pathogens, likely, one that caused the global pandemic to cross to humans and spread or put another way we are creating a big overlap area between animal and man for more corona viruses. so what do we do for starters? well, the, you and environment program once a generational restoration to rehabilitate a 1000000000 hector's of land over the next decade. that's roughly the size of china. and the head of the us environment program in ga anderson told al jazeera, it can be done that be in the heck test that we have over exploded, degraded through our human activity. we need to put it back into working order. why?

because we still need to feed the world, we still need to ensure that we can't live as humanity. and we can't do that if we continue to degrade the very land that sustains us. so the opportunities, yes, we protect what has not yet been interfered with. but we put back into working landscape that which we have degraded, and it is so very doable each one of us know it from our back gardens. if we give off from the fields where we work, if we give nature half a chance, it will bounce back. it just needs a little helping hand. so this is an initiative where we are working with the finance sector. obviously, we need to have farming on board and government science and communities to move on restoration, but it would be essential for food and for climate. the . okay,

let's bring in our guest today on inside story from new delhi. we have chandra bush and ceo of the international forum for environment sustainability and technology or i, forrest in nairobi, cut to civilian c e o of the african wildlife foundation. and joining us from rome is lorenzo sierra monte professor of political economy at the university of pretoria. gentlemen, welcome to old chandra, present in new delhi. coming to 1st, take me through explain to our audience why this is happening faster than it should be happening and still it's happening fast despite all our efforts. id is what we do understand that better just one number for land to good news. and the phone numbers is polity in line to be graded because it is extensively used especially used by people cold water. and now if you wash your store, you will have to provide

a gun. it's unfortunate over the last 30 years, you have not be able to get quality and therefore you run line as you like. and that is the reason why the biggest issue continues. why before patients and physician and we support a lot more resources, a lot more if you want this thing and that's what i have. the answer will be in that what you're saying like is not on the easiest way to be. we have a historical experience all dr. reverse landed and we have not been able to do it because we all made because that you wanted me to do because the largest number of people depend online and the other. so if you really want to

reverse the brand, see you just me think about how to get it in polity. how does it again in terms of dependence on land, then only at home the most resources bang only be able to do it. okay, that's a lot to talk about here on insights. so he cut his opinion in i robi, we're talking about farmland. we're talking about forests, we're talking about the impact on our oceans. do we need to break it down into those 3 specific areas or should we just be calling it an ecosystem? me see, so i thought it was as we talk today, we had all these what color what color we pointed to be made like it's really it's multiplied by maybe by adding paula or

gold and hold that will be maybe one of these all these while that is where i read the one on the issue, but it's a whole lot of repeated twice him. but the issue is maybe you know, in my lorenza fear a monte in rome. this document, this report, this clarion call for all of us to do something, uses the word nature. forgive me if what's about to say, sounds very naive in the context of what we're discussing here. what is nature? it does feel like a very old fashioned word. why it's a very important one. it's all of us. we need to realize and understand it. we're a part of nature. we have forgotten that for so long, and i think, oh, good,

reminded us a little bit right that you know, we die, we get sick. we thought we were not getting sick anymore. we die, we get sick, it's enough that we are out of balance with our natural system. and so we may experience tremendous terrible economic consequences. and i think, you know, and i think i'm happy to be part of this debate and to be calling from rome. because i don't want it to become a debate about what the developing world needs to do, right? the lender gradation has happened in the west long before it happened in asia and africa. deforestation as massively happen in europe. and so it's not just a problem for dis, will develop the world, but it's a problem for everyone. and it's time that we start realizing that we need to reforest the world. we need to start wilding cities in europe. we need to start re wilding cities in north america. we need to start being imbalance widicker systems . every word. this shouldn't be just a target task or you know, other continents. it needs to be a global effort. and when that happens, believe me, the ability that nature has to restore itself to progress quickly and to counter

some of the must, you know, negative effects of climate change is extremely impressive. so we need to be part of the process. that's what nature is. we need to be part of nature and facilitate this restoration process. we're going to enjoy the consequences not just as, as natural beings, but also is economic beings is going to be a good thing for the economy. is going to be a good thing for our personal health chunk of assigning utility that point that lorenzo in rome makes, i mean, in anderson in the sun. but we played at the top of the show. she kind of nails that she says the planet can fix itself very quickly and it will fix itself. but we've got to give the planet the tools to do that. did we see that, or a glimpse of that during the height of the cobra. 19 pandemic around the world, talking about, you know, lorenzo was talking about re wilding our cities and times we saw wildlife coming back into our cities not sounds around the world. we saw pollution levels drop. we saw asian generated pollution levels drop, and we saw people sun by after sun,

by on this channel on every new channel thing. oh, i used to live in a very polluted area. it's not polluted now because nobody's traveling any place. no, actually we go show us what it be in bottom. it looks like it, you know, just 100 kilometers from going to see him in a period. we had an agenda. so yes, of course people saw wildlife people, you know, we had the walker. all that was good, but my, me, they calling the shot up criminal doesn't even know how deeply in the environment is that you've been on the story that gone on this, you know, going across the what you know gone. i'm a story best one is now going to be in the find that it will

be as well. we had, you know, improvement getting in bottom of that. but we had the bully, gone in the pony to came after that we have the national market in the us. so both bands have all of a lot of we also saw what happens in terms of stimulus beauty, where they lived in that community. so i am not sure that the learning lessons that you know, it is very nice to speak about, that we all mean environment and that it is doable. but when it comes to the book and stimulus as well as a policy, i do not see many this you know, moment was green. ok. okay, let me just kinda boil that point down shondra and put i think what you're saying to cut his opinion in nairobi. cut it. i'm guessing you will. nodding quite

enthusiastically. they're listening to trying to get on a new deli, i'm guessing here from your vantage point. you need to see the developing countries being engaged in a dialogue with the developed countries. so the developed countries cannot adopt the the sort of quiz i ecosystem moral high ground here and tell the developing countries what to do. this is a 2 way street of co operation. otherwise inequalities will get greater. surely. i know how you call it. a lot of what people don't know because it's going to the pages or how what model is going to be

developed. that's why i made it to the way that the all the table is not very euro taken. i've read the thing that i didn't find it more like hello by concentrating all the ways we tell them a lot now. i know. well, no, it's going to be climate change. we not healthy that we can do better from that from the way. you know, we got our hiring. i was

talking to a couple even the oldest to we all want to be on be just like a lot of because he's already in that. ok. we know that young today i'm not going to keep the level we know that climate change before we show it. ok, lorenzo. let's just go back to the mobile. ok, pardon me for interrupting. i just want to go to learn to enroll. now, there is a going back to that idea of re wilding towns, cities are urban and rural areas. the percentage statistics contained in this

report make convincingly thing, because if you basically take 15 percent of industrialized, i'm including industrialized farming here, industrialized land around the world, back to what it used to be. you can stop literally stop dead 60 percent of predicted species extinctions by the year 2030. that's a very easy equation. and yet prime ministers precedence economy ministers, finance ministers, energy ministers around the world. they don't seem to be particularly engaging with a very simple message or, i mean to put it another way. i think it was gandy that said, be the change you want to be and work with people. yeah, to paraphrase what gandy said, or michael jackson said, you want to see the world? yes. some change you want to see in the world, nelson mandela, some very clever guy, clever than i said. how do we get, how do we get people to do this? do we tax them or do we incentivize them? there are many tools. let me,

let me also emphasize the fact that prime ministers and governments are wrong, debbie, wrong for a long period of time. i think governments have been socialized into different understanding of economic development. i think more and more people are realizing that our concept of economic growth has to be completely re thought. one are my friends from, from india and from kenya were saying, you know, the developed world has to help the developing world. i would go even further. i would say that the world has to take responsibility for what it has done. the damage is generated and also realize that he doesn't, you know, it's not, it's not an example. shouldn't be an example for the rest of the world. and when you look at the whole planet, there are many interesting experiences. for instance, tools like payments for system services, paying farmers not to destroy nature, but to actually to, to restore and support ecosystems. because ecosystems play a very important function, the economy supporting governments and states that protect mother nature that protect wild life as part of global taxation mechanism, we should have

a global tax that should go the proceedings should go to those governments that have wild, nate, sorry, nature reserves and so and so forth. we should also have incentives because people react incentives to consume better, not to consume more, but to consume better is to shift between more and better means changing the world . and instead, because of our session with economic growth, which i consider is stupid economic model, we continued thinking that in order to develop, we need to consume more with generating waste. and then we have a lot of health and environmental issues to deal with. it's a very expensive system, so consuming better rather than consuming more. our fiscal methods have to change. it's not hard. interestingly, academics have long argued that we do have all the tools, the natural tools, the financial tools to do so. what is now missing is the political will, and i think this is the time after covent for everyone to unite behind as report and behind these. thanks to say, we don't want to wait anymore. we want the better economy. we don't want to die of

the next than damage. we want to make sure that our natural conditions will be ideal for life. and we want to make sure that we're not going experience so much poverty and so much depression. because that turns into migration that turns into google problem, and it's again impacting our economy. if we want to save our economy, we have to save our plan gender beside back to you and new delhi 0 point one percent of global g d p would get us out of this toxic whole. but in case people think, we're just all sitting here, slacking off merrily. international governments and prime ministers and presidents year on year globally, we spend more than a $130000000000.00 on helping nature, which countries are doing it right. which countries are doing it wrong? i don't think any country is this is not a black and white or sometimes these are trying to do a right. they are getting dry others or not. but speaking, got it well, what reliance on government is also a problem if we really want to revise that,

then the involvement, the private sector and community is equally b. s. b relied on the governments by the law because it would be what happens in a nation relocation. i think we now have a good job with communities and to come together and, and provide a helping hand as well. i don't know how to do it. community to go. we have seen expedia from across the world, but the movie management wasn't ready. if you get a community college body than mine is very much better than what government i started, right. it's a good one. i mean we have to walk right now. we people, them not dislike. so when,

when the community and the private sector also have to get involved in canada. and also making sure that the the reason that we are talking about has some big sensitive cut us opinion, nairobi, it would be a foolhardy, perhaps kenyon prime minister that taxed people into being good for the planets. the same would apply to the indian prime minister and also the italian prime minister. and in my case, the purchase premier as well. but we spend as a global community, we spend trillions of dollars a year looking after ourselves. so how do we re purpose that expenditure so safer to every 1000 rails i spend and oh huh. 10 ri, owls goes to something that is good for the planet. how does that happen?

i think i'm going to be changing this all by what we've talked about. we talked on similar for law and somehow it wouldn't maybe have been it doesn't need to be short short of all time. maybe with how much we see that, how we be paid or the next step in the fall when whether or not we need to take care all well what we need for our culture and we knew what didn't come up a whole bunch of the things we need to know what the

simulation mean. you know, what are the you know what i mean? the problem is horrible. right? so in order to reason it's way way. oh yeah. not because the whole mother should be how well, how to like, what, what it will be easy to read faithfully. so what, what do we do? ok. i think it's providing lorena

with what i'm saying in rome. if this is not done and done soon, because there's definitely a sense of urgency now coming from people like the report office here, is this a crisis that is irreversible financial? yes. and it will have not only inexpensive so it will be not only an exponential threat, but it will be also an immediate financial threat. i, you know, i understand that a lot of people don't care about existential threats. they don't care about planetary destruction. although i think the intelligent species should actually care about it, a lot of people care about their pockets. while, let me be very clear. if we don't take care of this crisis, we're going to have to pay a lot of money. jobs will be lost, livelihoods will be gone, property values will drop, i mean it's already happened. i mean, look at florida, state value and properties have dropped in and market prices because of the risk

of natural disasters to the same as this happened is happening on the strain rich people have lost a lot of money for not taking care of the, you know, the land and the environment within which their lives. so this is, i'm just, i'm trying to say this because it needs to be clear 1st and foremost that this is a problem for everyone. it's also a financial and kind of problem. if we don't take care of it, we can do, we should have done a lot years ago. we haven't done it because we have denied the crisis, then we have postpone decisions. now we're still, you know, dilly dallying not not taking, not taking sitting in the fan. so looking at apps and this is becoming more expensive every, every minute we wait. and again, to report tells us that we know exactly what needs to be done and what needs to be done is not going to lead, is towards a worse, you know, personal, social and human condition. it's going to lead us into a better economy. it's going to lead us into an economy that is going to be more prospers and also that is going to allow us to thrive better. we're,

we're not gonna have to spend so much money to treat ourselves. we're not going to get as sick as we get now. we're not going to have so many social ills as we do have now. so it's a desirable economy is what i call a wealthy economy. so not understanding us, which was just apparation not understanding that if we separate human beings from nature, both are going to lose is really an element of stupidity in our species. and i think overcoming testability will be the most incredible important step of our generation gentle. and that's an apt point to draw our discussions. reclose, a thought provoking conversation, say thank you very much for joining us. they were, i guess, gender push on cut siblings and lorenzo monte and thank you to for your company. you can see the show again. anytime you won't be the website outage dot com. and for more discussion of our facebook page, that's facebook dot com. forward slash ha, inside story, and also follow the chat on twitter at a j insight story is our handle from me, pete, adobe, and the team here. and thanks for watching. we will see you very soon. for the moment. bye bye. i

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