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concerned, how do you get on board a determine what exactly the situation is whether the structure is weakened. you can see obviously in this little while, how unsteady it is, where obviously on the ocean. so even for x, but when they have to dive to the base of the west. so when they have to look at the structure, they have to deal with these challenges ah, the top of the hour on al jazeera and these are the headlines of vigil in hong kong for victims of the 989 piano and square massacre has been stopped by police. some people did gather or could be disposed in. the organizer of the vigil was arrested early on friday. so o'clock davis, this update earlier from hunger. you might be able to see, i have a police presence behind me. the police have been deployed via that
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a people actually accessing the thought behind me. the pod instead were saying people will quietly around victoria park holding the phones on with the tortures on . so that instead of actually going on to the victoria park onto the sports field, they've gone around at pacific because of this band you might recall last year, 2000 and defied the band that was put in place by place. hundreds of supporters of molly's military shinta rallying in the capital bama co this friday day back in regards to who to power last month. in addition, frances suspended its joint military operations with molly on the adding to the international pressure for our returned civilian leadership. money, hundreds of people have taken part in a run in occupied east jerusalem in solidarity with palestinian families facing false expulsions. it began and checked kara and ended in phil one, dozens of palestinians living in those 2 neighborhoods or under the threat of losing their homes. too, is there any settlers?
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russia's president vladimir putin says his country's economy is close to returning to pre pandemic levels. thanks partly to the completion of a $12000000000.00 gas pipeline to germany. fusion also urged rustic russians to vaccinate quickly as the pace of inoculations is slowed. he also invited foreigners to come to russia to get their vaccinations. and the mirror of cotton spoke at that summit as well. stressing the importance of international cooperation to get economies and health efforts back on track shift. i mean, been hammered. al tiny says, mutual investment it key to helping countries recover and poor weather conditions are hampering efforts to prevent thinking container ship from causing for the damage to sri lanka, coastline. official, the pricing for the possibility of an oil spill. the fire on board the vessel. i've taken almost 2 weeks to put out its way back with the new salad. $1800.00 gmc about 25 minutes from now. next to debbie with inside story me. ah
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ah ah benjamin netanyahu rivals have united to form a new coalition after 4 inconclusive elections in 2 years. is this the end for israel longest serving the leader? and with the recent conflict in gospel, anything change for the palestinians? this is inside story. ah, ah, ah hello and welcome to the program on pete adobe. israel's franchise coalition is preparing for its 1st test of survival and
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the man is trying to push from power is not going without a fight. benjamin netanyahu has accused his old allies turned rivals of selling out to form the new coalition, which includes hardline, right, wingers liberals, and historically, a palestinian israeli party. nathan, yahoo is trying to woo potential defectors away before the israeli parliament, the connect. it holds a confidence vote, will bring in, i guess shortly. first, let's take a quick look at the main players in this alliance of political opposites. natalie bennett, who comes from the same right wing politics as benjamin ethan yahoo! and opposes any future palestinian state under the coalition deal. he's become prime minister 1st before handing over to ya lap it. after 2 years. his center left party holds more seats than tommy bennett's, but it's believed he was willing to go 2nd. in order to hold the coalition together . and men saw a boss who heads the separative, united arab list, his inclusion and cabinet would be a 1st for
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a party representing palestinian israelis. and i says it'll give them a real voice in government. ah, there we are. here we go to bring in our guests from tillery, we have nettie silver adjunct fellow at the washington institute for near east policy movement rabbani. he joins us from the hague today. he's co editor of the john leah online magazine, which is produced by the arab studies institutes. and in new york, we're joined by a martin indic, who served as us ambassador to israel. he's currently a distinguished fellow of the council on foreign relations gentlemen. welcome to you all. now he's ill, but until it be coming to you 1st. if mister bennett, a pragmatist or an ideologue? well, mr. bennett is an ideologue who has by force of necessity become a pragmatist. and the clearest indication of that is agreement to actually form this rather diverse than ideological diverse, definitely coalition government. it's not something he would have done in the rear
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path. i was also skeptical even just last week, that he wouldn't have taken the path of the less resistance and actually cut a deal with bebe netanyahu and merged with them he could. but we saw him take, i would argue a more courageous path in his mind and in many people's minds. here it is for the greater good for the greater good of the country and ending that yahoo is long green moon rabbani in the hay course. the difference between mister bennett and mister nathan, yahoo, where is the clear blue water between these 2 political beasts of israeli politics? i think the short answer is it's the same old ransom wine and new bottles. i think most people will accept that this is essentially a personal dispute or a power struggle between 2 claimants to these are only prime minister ship rather than a change of government on the basis of any important policy or are the logical differences
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. and i think the real question concerns the longevity of, of this government given the breadth of the coalition that is expected to take power. and secondly, whether prime minister netanyahu will manage to remain eligible. ready for public office and unseat it and form a potentially new coalition after elections or whether he will be removed, in which case the possibility of a new right wing coalition, including the could but without notes in your whole, becomes entirely possible. but as far as the bigger issues are concerned, i certainly wouldn't expect any difference. martin indic in new york, if it's out with the old. but in with the old, when it comes to sort of political footprints in the sand, if you will, can the bite and ministration however, work with mr. bennett more or more easily than it could work with mister netanyahu,
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because you have a fresh face. you have a face this perhaps less belligerent and if you have a fresh face, you can build confidence in that relationship. yes, definitely. all of those things. this is good news for the buyer and ministration. they were looking at the alternative. netanyahu lead hard right wing religious coalition, that netanyahu would have led into strong opposition to the return to the iranian euclid hill. and would have pushed settlement activity and legislation to legitimize illegal settlements. outposts that would have created in combination a good deal of harper to the bottom and ministration and regardless of tags. how rance, this coalition, by look to some of the, our world. it's
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a fresh fights for washington, and it's not just bennett it's banner. who is an ideologue, who is definitely the strongest propounded annexation, good, strongest opponent of the palestinian state. nevertheless, he is constrained and he's constrained by the labor and merits. last spring parties are in the coalition, we have a unit or any legislation. and he's constrained in terms of the relationship with the united states, which he has to take more seriously. when he's sitting behind the prime minister's test, then when he was operating in a different capacity, narisa the coming back to you there until of eve, when you talk to, unless you use the expression when you talk to ordinary israelis, are they content that for the 1st time ever know we have arab representation in the coalition. yes, we've had arab representation in the connect it for several years. of course we
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have but not in coalition government for ordinary perhaps even particularly the younger israelis who have just gone to the gone to the polls for the 1st time or maybe the 2nd thanks. we've had so many is really elections now one loses count, of course, but today think that's a good idea or a bad idea having arab representation at the top table. well, it depends where it is really you ask. we have to remember that despite the potential now formation of a new government, this is still a deeply divided country, almost 5050 netanyahu. we should remember only didn't succeed in getting that narrow right wing religious government that martin indicated by some 70000 but 2 seats in parliament. so we're not talking about wide margin here. but i think to your point, the official representation of an arab israeli political party in an israeli governing coalition is historic positive. the irony,
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if that's the right word is that b b l himself put this on the table. in the past month or 2, he started negotiations with the very same arab israeli. ready implement party, rob. and so he, by his very attempt to gain his own government, actually bought the arab israeli political parties into the fold. and you know whether he likes it or not. now they, they help the both of linda bonnie and the have to go back to a points of shelf life or longevity. the numbers at the moment really, really don't stack up in favor of mr. bennett, having a long shelf life to the, i mean he's got what, 7 out of 120 seats in the connected is that why certain politicians are already putting on full display for everyone to see around the region. the tensions that already exist. point number one and point number 2 is that why people are already sickening thing? look,
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we will keep it focused on domestic issues. we won't go near the big red hot international issues. i think it's important to recognise this is essentially an 8 party coalition. and the only thing the parties were able to agree upon is the removal of benjamin netanyahu from office and on virtually every other issue, particularly the more important issues. there is no consensus whatsoever. so the question really becomes, once they've achieved their common objective, assuming that they indeed do so during the next week, what happens them my, my suspicion is that they will plod along basically continuing the policies of the current government without changing them in any substantial way. one way or the other and at the same time, bear in mind that has only a razor thin majority within the israeli parliament and all you need as netanyahu
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assuming he remains a leader of the we could. and citing against that day and night as the left wing government beholden to the arabs and all the rest of it. and it's, it's, i think, fairly conceivable that it won't take too long before you go one or 2 parliament members from one of the right wing parties defecting. next thing you know, you have a no confidence motioned, and it's back to square one. martin intake in new york. what is it about mister netanyahu? he spent the past. what? 18 hours or so describing what we think his imminently about to arrive in terms of being the israeli government, as being dangerously left wing. and he knows there's another vote sheffield for june, the 14. so he's got 9 or 10 days of trying to pick off individual members of parliament to side against what the coalition could be and arguably should be. so what does that say about him as a politician?
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when but he still ways, modest politician in israel. but as mary pointed out, its backfired on him. all of his sticks and tricks, as he often refers to them, have boomerang on his, particularly the one bringing the ar party. these lammas party and into fall legitimizing that he pays lost some of his reputation for being the magician. i doubt that he's got to succeed in pulling away 2 or 3 politicians to stop this vote of approval. so the new government am because what does he have to offer them? it's not as if he has an alternative government to offer them. if he done that, he would be in a very different situation today. so he has a shift collection to offer them. and i think that one should never underestimate
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in my experience, which is very politics. the glue that keeps ministers stuck to their cabinet sage. and it's a powerful glue. and i don't think any of those who are forming the government today. well, want to go to elections. that was the primary motivation of bringing them together in the 1st place. and so i think it will hold for a while. definitely, there are going to be centrifugal pressures. definitely because the right wing base the new prime minister bennett is going to be pushing hard for things like ball settlement activity. and he is going to have to worry about what will happen to me by some and yeah, i will definitely be trying to rally support against bennett. so it's not going to be an easy ride. but i think that that but sense that if we don't hang together, we will hang separately is something that is going to gives them
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a longer time in government than we might expect. ok. last point, before we move on to the other side of the debate and literally the other side of the border to you know, result in tend to be mr. nathan, yahoo has spent he is hitting all the pressure points for the ultra orthodox lobby within the mechanisms of his ready politics. will bennett administration do precisely the same thing, if only because it has to well, no, i don't believe it have to be altered that i've mentioned have been in power almost consecutively for many years, if not decades. their alliance with b. b. netanyahu was really the safety net that provided him is various governments with one glaring exception. but every one of his government, you know, really where the ultra orthodox parties, it's a new day. it's a new day on that issue. if and when the government will be seated,
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you just have to take a look at a big door lieberman, the hard right ultra nationalist, but ardently, secular politician here and israel, he will be finance minister. and i don't think it's a coincidence that he requested and received the finance ministry. the orthodox have influence and power in israeli politics, but precisely due to the power of the pers and so i think you'd have to take a look at the economic and budgetary policy of this new coalition government to see where, where israel is headed. ready in terms of the relationship between religion and state, and i'll just conclude by commenting on what martin and mr. bonnie said. the biggest issue that will keep us coalition together is netanyahu as opposition leader, so long as the threat of nathan yahoo! toppling the new government and returning to power exists is increases the likelihood of the government actually survival. so the footprints of this
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government, this administration is basically, we're not nathan, yahoo absolutely. i mean you had opposition. parties running on that very issue on that very platform. again now who is okay. moon with on there the have. it seems to me listening to what you guys have been saying of the past 10 minutes or so that any moves forward in the right direction for the palestinians. don't hold your breath for that to happen. any time soon cuz it's not gonna happen . yes, if i could just very briefly respond to the previous point. i agree about and it's in yahoo being the glue that holds this coalition together. the question becomes, what happens if nathan, yahoo is deposed as opposition leader, which is i think, a realistic possibility. but, but back to your question, i think if you look at this from a palestinian perspective, i believe that decades of bilateral diplomacy on their exclusive view of
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supervision have left all but to perhaps 3 palestinians. convinced that the prospect of achieving their rights on the basis of decisions taken by the israeli government are no more realistic. and therefore a different formula needs to be found to achieve both palestinian rights and israeli palestinian peace. and that is essentially through the internationalization of the question of palestine taking it back to its origins, so to speak, and seeking to generate both external pressure on israel and trying to broaden the international sponsorship of any potential negotiations beyond israel's primary and strategic allies. the okay steps, but moving rabbani when you say a different formula that's got to surely by definition be a different formula kind of wrapped around the same people. so you would still have
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israel and an interlocutory say the united states flying and flying out because biden's on record saying, i don't want to get sucked into another middle east. peace process will not get in the right direction by remote, but you have to get criticized for being low energy right enough maxima to pass, selling, devising a different narrative that doesn't involve how much rockets. yes, but you know, let's leave much more the bus be increasingly obsolete and i suspect not much longer lasting passing in liter, out of the picture for the moment. because as we've seen in recent weeks, he's being rapidly over to being rapidly overtaken by his own people. who are seeking to overcome the fragmentation, political geographic and otherwise it's been the hallmark of of the oslo process. and i think what palestinians are increasingly seeking to do is not relying
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on negotiate bilateral negotiations with israel, where israel and effect of power a veto over each and every palestinian right and its implementation. but seeking to generate external international pressure on, on israel to ensure that israel is left with no choice but to respect and implement palestinian rights. it's going to be a very difficult and lengthy process. but part of it i think, is also is going to depend on broadening international involvement and any potential diplomacy. besides the united states, i think it's unrealistic to suggest that the united states is not going to be involved. but a situation where the united states is the only external party involved and, and has, you know, basically set up the process so that it needs israeli interests at the expense of palestinian rights and does so systematically, is no longer really something that palestinians are willing to accept ok,
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martin martin in the in new york is this sort of fabric, a fragility of this coalition. actually a good thing for one issue that you've already mentioned. you mentioned at the top of the show you were talking about iran and re get restarting the j. c. p. 082015 iran nuclear deal. if this coalition survives in part by only keeping itself focused on domestic issues that year or 2, and kind of doesn't turn a blind eye to getting the j c p, o, a, up and running again. but maybe just turns away slightly into the shade. does that mean that everyone who wants to get iran back into that church of progress on it's nuclear ambitions can get on with the job and israeli leaders can get on with running israel? i think that there is a consensus in israel across the board politically against what the united states intends to do. that is to say,
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to go back to getting iran into compliance with the nuclear deal, the tracy. but the difference will be the extent and style of the opposition. that's what they've got to be opposed to it, but they recognize as i think arab leaders do as well, that this is going to happen. and they can't stop at night say, just got back to the deal. if iran decides it's going to go back to do, and therefore it will be a disagreement. but repeat the extent of the disagreement is going to be different than bear in mind. the defense minister of israel is now in washington asking for another $1000000000.00 in assistance to refurbish resupply israel's materiality used in the last round of conflict, hamas. so you know, you can't bite the hand that feeds you in the circumstances. so i think
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that the bigger question will be, what happens be you're on the nuclear deal, the climb, the administration makes it, it's kind of negotiate a stronger and longer deal has no credibility in the middle aged, generally israel and with the arabs. and they don't believe that the administration will have any major and israel is involved in kinetic action with the iranians in syria, sometimes in iraq. and i think that that will continue. and as the clock ticks on the sunset clauses in the nuclear deal, ah, the israelis kind of become more and more focused on the idea of some kind of military preemptive act against the iranians. right? where the united states will be focused elsewhere on it's. so they going to have to find a way to work together to deal with this problem. never filled it very briefly because
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we are heading towards the end of the program. mr. nathan, yahoo is in effect at ground 0 of a legal process going through the courts just now. questions and accusations surrounding what he did or what he didn't do. allegedly, when he was, is, is ready. prime minister, there is another legal process going on across the road in the israeli supreme court to do with illegal settlements. and the facts of that process displays displays to the world the, the broader region as well. the whole settlement machine keeps on rolling. mr. bennett, surely presumably will not pull the plug on that no, he won't. but it remains to be seen what overall policy, the new israeli government formulates with regard to settlement construction in the west bank and a nice through slum fries, an arab israeli lawmaker from the left wing marriage party, who said to be a minister for regional cooperation, put it best publicly 2 days ago,
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he said this will be a status quo government. in other words, don't expect a major breakthrough to state solution. and everybody dancing in the streets. but on the other hand, don't expect us to go crazy as he put it in the settlement. and so how you thread that needle. i think we'll, we'll say a lot about the new israeli government and more to the point the staying power of new israel government man rabbani. very briefly. you get the last 45 seconds of the program. you are not the 1st guest we've had on this channel to say that martin with a boss is a bit low energy and he's probably heading for the political exit. if the palestinians deserve high energy leadership in the p a if the p a is about to have to engage or want to engage with an israeli government, where will that come from? and who will that person be? well, what we're seeing now is that it's coming from palestinians on the ground and it's coming from palestinians everywhere weather in israel and garza and the west bank,
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jordan lebanon, and so on. and i think we're really at a pivotal moment in a moment of opportunity. of course, it's not going to be a very long lasting moment, but power the palestinian priority now should be and i believe is to re unify themselves so that they can develop a meaningful strategy. implemented by credible leadership, precisely because the status quo has become unbearable. and as we saw the last month, one can call for a maintenance of the status quo, but it will be overtaken by events. gentlemen, we have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us today on inside story. thanks to i guess mary silva, when rabbani and martin indic and thank you to for your company. you can see the show again anytime be the web site al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash ha inside store. you can also join the conversation. we're on twitter. we are at ha, inside,
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