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i was asking me that question if you're new to you can answer it and also post them questions to the guess be part of today show me and i victor hello. yeah. hello iga oh, nice to see. welcome to the string big to introduce yourself to our global audience . tell them who you are watching. hi, my name is victor teal. i'm a political scientist currently working as a visiting scholar at the university of cambridge center for research in social sciences and humanities. nice to have a law. introduce yourself to the team audience phase. hi, i'm dr. here you see me lecturing international development. i work at kings college, london, u. k. and welcome back to the streaming e. get the last i'm eager was on. we were talking about a change to child policy and that was added an extra kid. so lovely to have you back in ego remind our audience who you are and what you do. hi friends,

over the world. i'm good though. and right now, a professor of sociology and global gender studies at the university, new york buffalo and i work on gender care work and social reproduction. china, i guess i'm really curious about your reaction. when you heard about this new chao policy, ega use dot show right? time, really fast. last time i was interview interview with about the to the 5 years ago. and i vaguely recall i meant to the point, why is it not going to work that the paul is the one help should not be in the 1st place in this kind of population engineering. it's really not the way to go. if you really like people to make the vision and that will actually work better, you really want the population aging problem. and i right, yeah, you're right,

congratulations. are being right. thank you for coming back and reminding us about that. yeah, let me show you this, this is that we bu, po, it didn't stay online for very long because the answers went very, appreciate it. are you ready for the 3 child policy people and we're, we're, we're all set. can't wait 1233 response. it's only agenda less hesitating. many problems of weight consideration. okay. not quite ready for the big family yet. completely out of the question. 24000 votes shopped on not shocking . and notre tool. i think it was to reach our policy, has if it's a shop or a way to means it was to have a different comic effect, which being chinese citizens are making lightly, not taking the birth control policy seriously anymore. if we say to child policy, i mean credibility, kind of bream is not tell jack paul,

the big family on 3 child policy is a joke. i'm going to show you this chart and victor for our audience as well. so we're looking this, the orange columns here for the year is $950.00 to 2020. this is how the population in china has grown and is growing. and then the red line here, the birth rate between the sixties and seventies, it went up and then lower and lower and lower victor, that's the, that's the, that's the dry bed. what does that mean in reality? in china? what could you see right now where you can see how the population is declining or the birthright in particular is declining? well, i can, i can see that china is going through and the experience that is kind of common in east asia. it compares china will have a relatively similar experience in it's demographics, visa, visa, south korea,

and japan. so today in china, i, if i'm not wrong the, that the average of both is about $1.00. but in south korea, it's $1.00, oh, $1.00 and in japan is around $1.00. so as the countries modernize us and the cost of living increases, you will see that the metric that in the, for the, for the people in the, in the country to have small and small families because of the cost of living. while the stresses of more modern life, et cetera. so this is something that we should expect and it's not something that is very surprising. really. one thing and i'll, yes, got it. yeah, i want to, i did one more point. her point is that is exactly the number one driving factor to glory down the population. growth is actually modernization industrialization.

people have better quality and the the 5 will have your children. but in china, once more historical baxter is that during the late seventy's, the eighty's they meet calculated how fast the population would grow. and so they implemented the historically most restrict the restrictive power policy, which is one child, which is because you're right, actually i industrialization took place. they should, people would actually have reviewed the number of children that they are doing you, regardless of what the state help them to do, but now become the state you work with all my thing on people's mind. people will be even lack property and the more resistant because they're in their call and find out with the what the they have to tell them. well, let me show you this. it's an ad from china's one child policy era. it's always the

opposite of where we are right now. if you have one child, you are prosperous to children. well, that's pretty stressful. 3 children terrify look at that, that, that, that can even look the same kids and the mom that was the ad to say have one child . one child is going to be better for you. you're going to be rich, you're, you're going to do well. and now what do you see argument for saying you should have 3 children. how can you go from hospice to terrifying and tell china's families and people who may be having kids that the terrifying is now a good idea. i completely agree with a good point. i think that chinese government, we've calculated its audience. so now let's talk about who these families are. so these family, the particular women, man, the what children, the one child policy. different from the modernization perspective. this one child

generation children to watch how generation have more education than before, particularly for women or me, particularly for women. they had really high more education than previous generation. the previous women, you know, this kind of a really important factor need to be considered. why women had more education, they're more likely to be to take part in professional jobs. so it's a complete different kind of it expected patients. and also when you to ask why chinese family want to have more children in the past. and the worry, the communist party miss play to the called a big family in the traditional is picking chinese family, one big family for particularly for boys, for old age security. before old age care. and having a boys had much higher read returns. but we kind of, it kind of flip the,

the norm having more children actually become economically liability for individual families. cannot guarantee economic return the cost of education costs of child care. so high. and you know, more than families in the beach or companies do not rely on but their children to provide. * old age. so this kind of would go to cultural leg between, you know, the big family, nostalgic, big family, know, and contemporary, you know, and zaya t among younger family. you know, open families. it is the kind of big leg between norms and reality. i want to bring in another saw get and this is from jason child. and i wondering what happens if you've had decades and decades of being told the one child or, or maybe even to children, is the limit. and in your head, that is what you were told. so jason a was a 2nd child at

a time when you weren't allowed to have a 2nd child without paying a penalty. and her mom hits her. she was a secret child. have a listen to her experience and then i'd love to come off the back of jason the story because the 2nd child in my family, my mom was just a hard time when she was pregnant with me. she is so many times when the inspector came, she has hide in the mountains forest, if on the roof, her inside too would desperately influence the baby. so i am the person who receives the edges under the one child policy and most people will think that one child is normal. but the other children there kind of that it has also influenced me. so the 3rd child policy has

a lot of criticism. yeah, i think both what the me and yeah, talking about is quite true. and i think what really happened in the eighty's are 3 different thing number. why is that the iraq, the cost of the harsh policy? i what you just heard about a rural and the women suffer from both, either losing their baby and going under the 4th, the 3rd rate of a borgia war having a 2nd child with social tommy from. and then what happened is in the one or 2 implemented to sell this idea to the population. the they started campaign for everybody that your children not only means that it's a right thing to do, but actually a better way to go because you want to invite to all your reports that you're single child. i myself, a product of that. i don't all the and all the privileges at the urban thing,

hotels and which is high that i can fax locking my to now which it, every family believes that a strategic way to invest intensively in your childrens by sending them to expose the actual activity. you expand the piano violence, you know, our classes that really relates to the call, a racing, a single one, make affording the race capital. and the thing i want to measure you knew about the kinds of conflict when the women also have the idea is deal in their mind. but that is being the only women my family, the great thing i carried both them about the way under grow from my family and they empowered to the point that now women do now long to get married or have a baby so that they can focus on their career,

which i think is their own 100 concept, but in a good way, to go ahead. well i, i think the gender imbalance in china now doesn't really quite help things. if i'm not wrong, they're a lot more man than they are women. so the more i believe it. yeah. so this is going forward. i think this is one of the, the biggest challenges that they face. but having said that, when the government announced the policy, i thought it was timely. it's timely because, i mean, i'm a political scientist though i look closely with states do. and to be honest, this what the chinese are doing now, trainees government doesn't really matter what they do. it is, it's probably covered in negatively in the western press. that doesn't matter whether this is demographic policy or economic policy. but the very fact of the matter is that in east asia, i think all, all the governments and in singapore as well, the governments more intervention east and the in, in the west. so at this point in time, i think, you know, most people say, well,

it's a little too late to little too late, but i think it's better late than never because the project, the negative consequences associated with this aging population is actually potentially very serious. what's what happened? well, i don't know, it really depends on how this thing plays out, but at the rate things are going is looking likely that the, the chinese people will be producing enough for them. so. so if we want to look at what happened, we just have to look at what's happening in south korea cutting. that's a you took about human resources like you have to have in order to have workers is that we use in china will not have workers in what city use time. 40 years time will i think they will face a big problem in terms of getting enough workforce, but they will also, but remember the workers also consumers and consumers and consumers

also the income tax payers. so if going forward, we, if you have a big aging population, and if a china, by its own definition is a socialist country. so you will have problems in terms of collecting enough text to fund the se in that kind of make off the waiting to happen. i have some youtube question and you get, i'm going to get you to for an instant. and i'm a law not so but an instant one. so this is how a square squid, hobo nice handle more. what place discrimination for women will naturally follow sadly. yay! agree, disagree, thoughts? so we can repeat the question yes. this youtube is expecting that there will be more workplace discrimination for women. it's a yes or no question. so the thought for the creature policy mind to introduce is course reach our policy and related policy measures. and one of the, the key measure used to address the workplace based discrimination. so we can

expect certain changes. my answer would be, sorry, i have thought of, maybe you got great little this would be definitely yes. more discrimination because i don't the in any time those measures corresponding measure will be implemented because trying to hadn't really address a ongoing, sexual harassment in the workplace. and the labor market, the combination based on gender. yes. so i cannot imagine an attempt to and i will be, or brett and you look at korea and adjust hence women's, their faith. the problem in their life core, their, you curb, they joined the labor market before marriage and, you know, having children funder power, 20 years of being a homemaker, and then return to the workplace. and that's what's gonna happen next to china. i think that's the balance of gender discrimination. i want to bring in a jackie,

why you, why is a china research for human rights watch? have a listen to her quaint and then we'll discuss it. if the chinese government really was chinese, people to have more children, have to commit to spend the money. so parenting become physical and affordable that would include free care and education, easy access to housing to health care. also the government need to enforce and agenda discrimination laws in the workplace. so women in china can have children at the same time, have a fulfilling career everyone completely. i agree with. yeah, i can legally was interviewed 82 women born in the 98 is the 1st generation of one

child policy. and they share with me a lot of stories about workplace based them splashing as practices from pregnancy q, which means you have to have permission formula employer to get pregnant. and then to present the child rearing related discrimination is called a diminished capability. the capacity is called baby brain. you know, the employers use pregnancy and child where re to take responsibility from women and the to thought line the promotions. so women fail this kind of motherhood penalties, not just the financial terms, and also translated into opportunity cost. which is way, obviously this conversation that we keep talking about women, but it's not, we mean by themselves who are making piece of paper. it's one of over, they're not doing it by themselves. i want a, one of the challenges might be if it the 3 child policy and the to child policy, the child policy. it's about whether you are a family and if you are married,

walk. if that restriction was lifted, do you think people will be more enthusiastic? while i was making a job with one of my friends, i said, i told my friends that if they were married from the, from, from the legislation, there is a chance that this might, will actually work better. i'm not saying. and it's kind of what i mean, that's what i'm saying them graphically then i, i think well then again, you know, i might be accused of chauvinism and whatnot. so it's not a direction that it's not something that uncomfortable discussing public. but having said that, i think what the, the lady in the cliff just now said it's actually true. and i've been thinking along the lines of what she was being was, she's been saying, one of the things that i think the trying to chinese government could actually do is actually to put in a more robust legal framework to protect the rights of women. i work in the united

kingdom for about 10 years in london. and one of the things i noticed is that my, my female colleagues of the, you know, they go on maternity leave for quite, quite a period. it's not a short period. i was, i think it was the wrong fall for 6 months, something like that. and i was really surprised because back home we, we don't actually a caught this kind of privilege to the, to the, to the ladies who go maternity leave, i think is just one or 2 months. so i was very, very impressed. the 2nd thing that the chinese government could actually consider is perhaps a packer, the, the fundamental issue to do with this, and that is the cost of leaving. if the div, the demographic policy could be in some way, are linked to the cost of living adjustments. i think it will be more successful if the chinese government could actually link it to say the housing policy. so if you have more than trees. sure. and perhaps you can actually have some sort of subsidy

the, what's your mortgage, or with the kind of housing that he's being available made available to you. i think this might actually see some that the government may actually see some success if this is actually linked. one more, i don't think, i don't think i would agree with your point. so i think this is exactly the wrong direction for beauty or in to save and a general gender, galle barian society. chinese at the cross road to become a where it to be carrying country is that they're just pushing people working harder. and this is gotten opportunity to invest in a child care, old age, a care to, to invest in care infrastructure. rather than, you know, we purpose of the old one child policy set up, which means pay and the punishment. you know, you find in fact, through to you,

you people to have more babies on the punish those who don't. i think they're july in the way. we don't agree. i think i think we agreed to to change public good rather. that right. i do use the money to incentivize individual family to have more children. i think about the really wrong direction. oh, we do not actually disagree. i think we are talking about carrots and i. i agree totally with you that the chinese government should make things more inclusive for everybody. and i think that's my point. if you l u v, the economy suffering associated with more having more children, people will have to have less consideration to have a bigger family. that's why i'm saying i, you know, i have my friends around me the or complain about how expensive it is. and most of the time they will, they only if they can make enough. they would like to have 2 or 3. and ultimately

the conversation revolves around how much money you make and whether they can afford to keep the children. so if they can afford to send the 1st kid say to ok, so they want to be able to send the 2nd kid to cambridge why? you know, if i want them to, i don't want to write it wrong. why do we need to center? don't talk for why can't we just say, well, you know, appreciate their own problem. you have children, you have children, you have to have a 20 year old total, and you don't, you don't want your child to go to the most amazing universe the allegedly in the world. is that what i want it to be? to be a chef? that's very practical. all right, so our practices, ega, i think, was 56 years ago. you on the stream, this is, this is, this is one sentence answer from you. you on the stream and we asked you will the to child policy what you know, it's not going to what will the 3 child policy work?

no, no. because i think before the government, beverly, invest the entire infrastructure, especially with all those, no market solutions like a public spending. cuz i, i also agree with that i think market solution, i think getting individual families more money like the fact that the government care infrastructure and general more of the, of the purchase actually parental leave. not maternity, a light in the northern countries like we walked, they asked the both the father and mother to take the advantage the father don't use the opportunity fire. that's a really great way. thank way of promoting that are parity. yes, thank you. yes. thank you. victor. thank you so much for talking about china's new 3 child policy. appreciate you. thank. if you choose comments and questions,

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