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then he made it 11 for germany, loses a opening game of yours for the 1st time. again, please don't hold the roof of that. one was the mill. little champion who took the lead in munich. germany is not common. i turned the ball into his own net, at the end of the 1st half german defender until the clash with funds the whole front don't go to 2nd after the break for city in the back efforts was ruled out for all sides as was a goal by cutting offense amount, which also didn't count today. ah, this is all, these are the top stories. israel has carried out air strikes in the gaza strip. the 1st strikes since the seas fire last month. warplanes targeted hamas sites south of gaza city. i didn't hon. eunice, it comes after incendiary balloons,
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were flown from gaza, causing fires and fields in southern israel. so what, hello has the latest from gaza? we managed to spoke to the fighting groups in got to check of there will be any response on this is raise. they said they have not received orders from their commanders to respond to such attacks. also the statement how much of the action just came. i was shortly saying that these, these attacks are these. these rates are breaking directly between gaza on jerusalem, which will, which will not happen according to her statement. and they have not mentioned any retaliation or any response toward the latest is a strike diplomacy controversy rally by far like through the nationalist and occupied in producing them the so called flag march. marx for the israel began its occupation 957 policy is a calling it
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a major publication. us president joe biden is arrived in geneva ahead of his highly anticipated meeting with russian president vladimir putin. on wednesday, the bible says he plans to discuss cyber attacks on the election interference with putting on us not showing those federal and you that we have a bilateral relationship that has deteriorated to what is the lowest point in recent years. a waiver there are still matters that need comparing and identifying and the determination of mutual positions. the issues of mutual interest can be sold more effectively to the benefit of both the united states and russia into more than 600000 people have not died from corona virus in the united states. but a vaccination drive has helped drastically reduce danny infections and deaths. california and new york have lifted most of their restrictions. those are the headlines coming up next inside story. goodbye. news.
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news. news. news. news. thousands of died in the so called war on drugs. in the philippines. the international criminal court wants to open a full investigation as a possible crimes against humanity for the president won't cooperate. so what can the icpc achieve? this is inside story. ah, ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm daddy navigator. the philippine president, so called war on drugs is one of his most controversial policies,
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rodrigo territory, supporters say his tough stance delivers results. but international observers, including the un, call it a brutal crack down. the government says, security forces killed around 70000 people, an anti drug grade since the territory took office in 2016. but rights groups believe the figure is closer 230000. a preliminary report by the international criminal court chief prosecutor found crimes against humanity. it may have been committed. and on monday, the 2nd last day of her term and office. how to run through the judges to authorize a full investigation which could hold the territory and his allies accountable jamila dog. and has more from manila, isis, the prosecutor had been sued, as officially requested the pre trial chamber for her to be given authority to start an investigation. actually means that a full blown investigation might happen anytime soon. that also may, that over the last few years, the i c. c has been looking at
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a large amount of public information in addition to the reports, complaints and petitions submitted by the families of the victims of the drug war, human rights lawyers, human rights organizations, and even members of the opposition. in fact, just yesterday, in 4th, supplemental reports from families of the victims have been submitted again to the i c c. and this includes testimonies and evidence against the 3rd to the so called war on drugs. and of course as this relief also includes and what is quite striking about that is that the release of the i c. c also mentioned that similar acts were committed in dobb city within the period of 1988 to 2016. these are the years when the parents also rolled as the mayor of diverse city in the southern philippines for decades. while the territory spokesman says the president wolfe cooperate. harry wrote because the only philippine lawyer on the icy seas list of
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council who can represent defendants or victims at the hague base tribunal. and he says, the proposed investigation is politically motivated. adding the court has no jurisdiction . i will ask the philippine national police when you discharge your obligation under the so called god, why did you get revealed young? did you kill civilians willingly because they weren't the bill yet. obvious to be the answer is know where they are. there are some inter, then the law court operation in connection with the war against drugs. you would be not, i get the billions of facts. it was always been dead or collateral damage either because the police man had the right to defend himself using reasonable force, or they were in fact the subject of the app and therefore,
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justified by the principle of necessity and proportionality. ah, let's bring in our guests. joining us from manila, we have leon, blah, who is the justice reporter for rappel or into by richard harry jerry, on a political scientist, an author of the rise of charity, a populous revolt against leave democracy. joining us from bangkok as phil robertson, who's the deputy asia director of human rights watch, thanks for joining us on inside story. welcome to the program leon. so the international criminal court once open and full investigation into what it calls possible crimes against humanity. is this a welcome move amongst the public in the philippines? what's the reaction to that? well, it's definitely a welcome move in a fire relief for all the groups that have worked for the last 4 years or last 3 years to get this action by the icpc. now if it's a welcome moved by the entire population of the philippines,
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that may be another question to be richard. good answer later. because president, the 3rd that we know still enjoy high popularity. so his supporters may be on his side on this one. but for the victims and the lawyers in the human rights community, this is definitely a welcome move. okay. and speaking of human rights fil robertson, human rights watch has been pushing for an investigation for some time now. so you of course, must welcome this. this isn't talk us through the significance of it. well, it's a huge step forward for potential justice for the victims of the people who are killed in the war on drugs. you know, you're finally talking about the possibility of accountability because quite clearly the philippines, national mechanisms for accountability and justice simply don't function. the reality here is that we're seeing as a result of this, i think probably increased focus on the potential that we will have. some people who are, you know, senior policeman, senior politicians,
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ultimately facing international justice. and that, i think, brings real hope to the victims of these crimes into the families who, you know, have had their cases swept under the rug. i mean, there's been no effective investigation of the vast majority of these cases. many of these were cover ups, you know, we had hand guns planted, we had, you know, people who are filing fictitious police reports and things like that. you know, it has been an ongoing effort to try to fight through a system that was designed not to provide justice for these cases to be heard. and for the i c. c to take the step i think is, is very, very important. ok, richard. the presidential spokesman though, said that the president himself will never cooperate with an itc investigation. and he said that this investigation is in fact due to fail. so without the cooperation
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of the philippines government, what challenges does this probe face? well, i think a statement from the outgoing prosecutor dice, it was very important. it sets the tone for the new prosecutor, mr. carrying on, taking over the i c. c. it's all very legal important because it rejects the government's claim that dice is no longer any jurisdiction over potential master. trusted is independent and you get the silicon b drew from the i to see i in 2019 doctors. he made it very clear that it does have jurisdiction when the philippines was a member and over crimes that actually extend well beyond the philippines, accession and membership to die to see. it's also very clear rejection of the philippines claim that now that it has created an inter agency panel. it can itself deal with the issues of accountability because of the principle of complementarity . the international body can only step in if local bodies. busy are not able to execute their proper judy. so this is clearly saying that they cannot trust the government to do that. and they are clearly jurisdiction over decision and
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potentially even on over extra judicial killing allegations. when president did said it was not the president, but it was the mayor of the all cd. so these are huge implications. now the key issues also here is timing. on one hand, this may have come a little bit late for a lot of people were expecting to come back in 2019 or perhaps 20. why are the state of the going prosecutor made it clear that the con damage and other complications were at play? here, but you said we are at the crossroads, we have to do something about it. but in the way, it's also a little bit too early in the philippines is heading towards the next presidential elections. so the president may be able to reject an investigation for the next year. but what if this also convinced the president deserted to try to stay in power by other means for instance, trying to run the vice president under here in the next election, or tried to have his daughter run the next president or his aid, mr. sen, bongo so he can distance. the timing is also crucial in political terms because
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president may be able to push back against investigation for now. but by next year, we're going to have a next president. and the next president may have a very different read election. and that you've been invented for president deterred to also shape the outcome of the next elections, political and right. so richard funding back against the ice and the investigation and you were mentioning the, the vall killings earlier on when he was mayor of that city in the icpc is saying that it has a direction to even investigate those killings. but again, this rejected by 2 territory spokesmen is the soul something that is of great concern to the territory including the devout investigation. yes, i mean this is not of the only bought president desert that right. so the statement made it very clear that the phillip williams may be involved in $1006.00 tens of thousands of extra to show coupons from us. our trusted so not only present during the but a lot of his henchmen, software center personnel, a lot of them are top positions of government. a lot of them will try to stay in
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power for years and decades to come. all of these people have an interest in making sure that this investigation will not happen, and they have been relying on present that to shield them to protect them, offered foreseeable future. but things could radically change under the next president. the president doesn't share the current president's brit for disposition . why do we also quite interesting that the philippine government also signal that he may rejoin and react seated id so that i respect them. so there's also the possibility that the philippine senate, or the next president, the rejoins, dies dc and make the re commitment to international human rights instruments. so all of these elements are playing to the calculation of the president on what he's going to do ahead of a shooting presidency and political landscape last year. but then again, this is not only but the president, but many people in the military into police forces in the law enforcement. many people now in the senate and top positions quite an interest in not facing any kind of prosecution or investigation. and because you're right and the spokesman also
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claim that almost all off been through the sources were as he described the enemies of the presidents. he did put out some names including a former senator, as well as the communist party founder jo my sites. and so do his claims of this pro being politically motivated, have any basis whatsoever spokesperson hired ok, kind of fixated on the left is grouped and so that there and thought that elliana, but he conveniently used out that there have been more than a dozen communications sent to the icpc, not the senator elliana says, not just congressman and not the national union of people, lawyers, there were more than there were more than others. and there the, the report of prosecutor been to this time the human rights watch and the amnesty international. and there were a lot of adopted information from the reports, which we can only presume our sources that are very confidential at this stage. so he, she cannot publicize it yet,
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so she's bring to spokesperson that ok. fixated and don't groups, which are only a fraction of the people that have work tirelessly in the past couple of years to bring the communications to where it is now, which is an authority is taking an authority nation. the open an investigation fell in 2017 human rights watch, found that the territory and other senior officials have instigated and incited killings of mostly the urban poor in a campaign that could amount to crimes against humanity. and at the time your organization had called on the human rights council to launch its own investigation . are you still making not call for the human rights counsel investigation and why? while the human rights council, in fact did pass the resolution that iceland sponsored that really did kick off a process at the human rights council that ultimately resulted in a very authoritative report that was released last year and last june. and part of that report is actually cited by the prosecutor in their,
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in their submission. i think that we are continuing to push forward on this. but, you know, what has happened is that there's been a failure of political will on some member states of the human rights council, which is resulted in a, a negotiated discussion and joint program between the u. n. and the philippines. between the opposite high commission human rights. and i think you're going to be hearing a lot about that because this is the fig leaf that the philippines government is going to be trying to use to say that, you know, they're serious about actually moving forward with investigations of all these killings for you when you're when human rights was said that the human rights council has opted to provide technical code, cooperation, and capacity building to the government. is that what you're talking about here? well that the human rights council was responding to a just a decision by member states to not push for the kind of 2nd resolution that we wanted. and yes, so there is
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a technical program that is going on between the u. n. country team and the os high commission human rights and the philippines government. but that actual program really isn't producing anything. it's mostly about human rights promotion. and we just learned that the philippines, national police only agreed to turn over $54.00 case files to the department of justice for investigation out of the literally thousands of cases that exist. i mean, there are 5281 persons who were killed by the government's philippines. government's own account in operations that the police were involved in. and they're going to turn over $54.00 case files and say that this is progress. it's is, it's ludicrous. there is no political commitment within the philippines government to actively investigate these cases. they have been looking for excuses to hide behind. and now their block has been called by the i c c prosecutor and it's about time. oh, speaking of time, richard just a moment ago also you were referring to the timing of this icpc probe is being very
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interesting at the end of been to the term. how much is the of this is perhaps her wanting to make a mark on her legacy? yeah, i mean, if you look at the tenor and it had then still for statement, it was very much, but in addition, she wants this to be our legacy. especially at the meeting that these are the tough issue. she was actually almost begging for support from international buddies. i mean, one problem that has been the case is that big countries, like china, have been open defending the philippines on this issues and accusing the international community. and i see all the interventions in the philippine domestic affairs. so with the strategic patron, she bought this big powers. it has been quite difficult for diversity to move forward and also the gap between their jurisdiction and their mandate on one hand. and they're very limited. on the other hand, not to mention all things and past years, a country like the united states to support the flagship of democracy under trump administration. the blatant attack on the icpc, they're not part of the i to see themselves the, the threatens of the judges,
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that national bodies over investigations and i've gone into a modern so the overall global climate has not been very friendly to our, to, to the i. c, c, and that's why the going prosecutor, she made it clear to, you know, these as she hopes that at least under her her successor. and now we'd be democratic administration. back in the united states theme school dramatically changed. well, how do you are right? korea con to take over the chief prosecutor on wednesday. in fact, how's he going to handle this? well we know that mister han has been, well, he was the crown prosecutor back in britain. odd. he's been base in iraq investigating and human rights violations in iraq and syria. modern was very much involved in our international cases involving master trust. it is in serbia and we want them water. so this is a person with tremendous amount of experience as far as dealing with this very
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contentious issues. this concern, but then again, facing logistical difficulties and political constrain. mr. crime cannot so many problems on, on his plate. and it's, it's not clear whether the philippine case will be a top priority for him considering that there are all other problems around the world, including the creation right, knowing in mark. so i think this is where we see that the all going of prosecutor is almost appealing to, you know, asking, begging the successor to take this on. and we clearly saw that the philippine garment also to conduct you said the guard position is that this was an overnight 11, an hour statement in an attempt to pressure the next prosecutor to deal with issue . so i think if there's also some uncertain element we often look at right in the field. robertson was saying that the philippines, government and the justice system do not deal with this issue in the philippines. just domestically tell us how the philippines has dealt with this. because the government says this is according to official statements that the countries legal
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system is enough to bring abusers to justice. is that what you've seen? is that what you've covered at regular? no, not at all because early, early in 2019 we came out with that report. there have been already 5000 of the police operations at that time there were only 72 brought to the government project, either 72 out of 5000. that's not very small, drop in the bucket. and the explanation we got from the police and the from the police force was that there is a presumption of regularity. and the should outs. and in the self defense cases of these $5000.00 and the prosecutors of the department of justice are mostly passive, they would not be pro active, they would not go to the crime scene and take these cases under the jurisdiction. so that's a very small drop in the bucket, which was admitted by the justice minister minarda give out. i need speech before the united human rights johnson. he said the built in system have not been enough in the last couple of years. so they're doing this review the pipe and all of the
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investigate the investigative and particular area gaps. but even that, they started that in june 22 when you, when they've known for the past couple of years that there were thousands killed, thousands of people killed. and we're trying to signal in some wally and that they're trying to get their act together. yes, they are trying to get their act together, but for what purpose? i mean, i think of the human rights. whatever have said that this is her ruth to get the international criminal court tobacco away from them. but i mean, there is about, there's always a value in domestic mechanisms working, but there should be a clear showing of that value because it's been a year since the review was open. there's been no complaints filed. as a result of that review, there's been no criminal project. you should start that as a result of that review. and there's still at this moment the evaluating 50. i think it's 52, not 5452 cases out of the thousands of people who killed the drug. war. phil,
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what's been the impact of the drugs war? killings are the consequences for not only the victims of course, but their families. well, what we've seen is the impacts have been devastating. we have seen families who have be, who are poor to start with, come even more destitute. we've seen children have to drop out of school because they, the loss of a major breadwinner. they, they can us for school fees. we've seen in some cases, children made homeless because the family breaks apart. we have seen all sorts of, you know, those traumatic stress that is not dealt with. we have seen marginalization of families because of stigma, claiming that your, you know, your relative was a drug deal, your father, your brother, whoever was a drug dealer and was killed. it is, it has torn apart communities and it has destroyed families and it has put children
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on the street. it has been absolutely devastating. and the government of the philippines really has no programs to even deal with the impacts on children who are the most vulnerable and who the government of the philippines as they want to help. there's no programs, they just are not doing anything except providing you know, small amounts of cash for a funeral, benefits for the person who has been killed. it's absurd. it is devastating for these families. there is no other word port and richard, what's the status of the the drugs crackdown now? and also there are perhaps you can confirm this for us, but there are unconfirmed reports that the killings have intensified during the coven pandemic it. is that correct? well as far as the president is very disconcerting, he has made it clear that he's speaking to his guns. right. and i mean, perhaps even literally as far as the one dropped is concerned that there's been no living down in terms of he's number one priority. when he came to office, which is, i think the problem, drugs and criminology in the country by the,
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with i to the automated they have, they're not against war and drugs. they're not going to pass any judgment on that. they just want to make sure that it's in the court has to rule the rule of law. and what's interesting to look at in the philippines is that the vast majority of really going to support the war. and when they were asked you want the, the suspects to be kept alive, we're not vast. majority even larger number close and 90 percent that they want them to be kept alive. so i think there's an agreement with president to test it in terms of dealing with the problem, but in terms of methods, i think the public one, some refinements there. and i think for his record approval ratings, this was something that the young mentioned at the top of the program. he the latest survey that i've seen at least which is from september 2020 puts his approval ratings at 91 percent. and this is according to pulse asia. how do you explain not? yes, and there are also other pauls that suggest these numbers are closer to 60 percent . i mean, if you look at the president, the previous president went down from office. we are occupied to 60 percent,
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but you know, i have under record the heads of one of the top agencies survey agencies in the county where i asked them, don't you think that the climate the fear affects other people's willingness to be honest in their surveys? i mean, let's not forget service, i don't, in my community or an upper middle income or, or, you know, reach communities mostly don't actually some areas where community, which by the way, also tend to be the victims of extra judicial feelings. so what is your assurance that this numbers are not inflated or the people are really honest about their willingness to say disapproving thing of the president. so i don't believe the president have high approval rating or 405060 percent, but i have some doubts about the 80 to 90 person. but then again i, i think a lot of people also support the president because they feel that at least is doing something about it. and this is also a kind of a reference on the perception of people on previous presidents about them. not doing it. the challenge for the next president, every that's going to be, is to show that they're willing to do this war on drugs, but in a right way. and that's where i see comes in because we should also focus unrest
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directly. and i started to justice, not only punitive justice, because we don't really need the law enforcement agents in the philippines. we want the underwriter side fighting these war in the right way. that should be the focus . you're just young and punishing the people involved in mass atrocities in the philippines early on, final work to you. i see you nodding through what richard have to say, and do you think this is going to offer some sort of accountability or hope for families in the philippines who suffered through this? well, you know, filipinos are used to getting nothing out of the justice system. they're used to seeing their loved ones flattered on the street and get nothing, get no police investigation. so even just that they need step in the justice system is always a sigh of relief. it's always a good development. and for a platform like the international criminal court for the international community to listen to these mothers who this to these wives, it's a big step for them. and i do agree with richard, but there should be a reformation of the police force. and i think very to an ongoing program of the
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academia department of justice to get the police and the military on the right side of that. but it, it has to take like a certain political will of the government to really, to really reform the police or it into farm the military. and thank you so much, we'll have to leave it there. thank you leon, milan, richard. hey dorion and phil robertson, thanks for joining us. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again. anytime by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com for further discussion, you can go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash and j inside story. join the conversation on twitter handle is a james. i story for myself and the whole team right here in delphi. thanks so much for watching. bye bye. for now, the news news,
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