understanding and confidence to believe it is realistic of the stage to which a new level of relationship would be totally clear. transparent, that is the ultimate goal of 2 countries. just toll so it wants to know happen is in live. so just a glimpse of happiness to cherish. i believe that here the can be you know, confidence and ultimate conference. but i see that we've seen some glimpse of this confidence has please you have a mike, but you want the 2nd one fall. this one is all plugs in, give on the 1st tunnel cover in 1900 is one of the key subjects here. have you brought to talk during your meeting with the us president? and if that is the case for the, for 6 of joint work with the us colleagues to overcome the pandemic,

maybe we could talk about mutual recognition of vaccines. well, we brought that up, but just briefly in class saying, you know, that in the times of the previous us administration, we accommodated the us request and with our equipment as part of humanitarian assistance. it's not that they run out of money at that point in time. they were in dire need of ventilators. we have done it selflessly, and we are ready to such kind of cooperation. but we haven't discussed this in detail after the meeting with president tom. the relationship has deteriorated between our 2 countries. are there any factors that foods tell that this will not be the case today? have relationships reached well bottom?

well, i can say all they actually related to the deterioration of russia escalation was initiated by the us. now trasha congress, quite inventive and i do not know what they will invent wrong. just please from the national loop. you know that our team has as one to the finish team, 10. congratulations. if we can take the same assessment, same same scale to buy a meeting. what the score who, who wants to get in the 2nd part of the question before it coming to geneva, americans we're saying we're going to exert pressure on have you fell this pressure and how have you stood up to it?

i think the russia is now thinking how our president is doing up there. i'm. i think it's put plenty. yeah. i think so too. more than enough. no, no pressure at all. it was a frank and candid conversation without you know, without going over the tangent from the set agenda. like i said, neither us nor united states have tried to exert any pressure, but this is not the point of the meeting and the score r k. the score. one thing before we met president biden, that this is not a competition event. and i fully dovetail with him. we're going to do really said the score. this was a productive meeting. it was footfall,

it was to the point and it took place in atmosphere that was actually enabling, enabling to create, to do it to accomplish something. and the most important thing is the glimpses of confidence and help that we had previously news, please. stephen rosenberg. phoebe senior bloom of yours mr. joe biden. busy wides us. that being the bits. cuz we, we may talk machine goals for april and predictable relationship with russia. however, the west, it believes that unpredictability is an inherent trade of the russian policy. are you ready to for goals and instability in order to improve the relationship with the west? well, quite a complex quite come to later it was difficult to, to, to, to follow the, the logic. i'm really envious. i mean, it's like

a contradiction of terms. you said west believes and then the 2nd part, do you, are you ready to forego this? well, if the with believe this, the doesn't mean the, this is the objective truth. so let me address your question in parts to dissect it . you said that the west believe the russian policy is unpredictable. well, let me reciprocate the u. s. withdrawal from the a. be treated in 2 in 2002 was unpredictable. why would they do that? then disrupt and undermine the basis of the tragic stability and treaty withdrawal in 2019? is that what you call stability? the open skies agreement withdrawal is that what you call stability. there's almost nothing to almost no legs to descend upon. one, thankfully the star treaty was saved and grateful that present biden has made

a wise decision to extend the new start trading for 5 years. now take the situation in around ukraine, the crimea. this was what it all started. right? okay, let me plan to question what was stable about supporting and you could an uprising in ukraine. i mean, the present gentleman. she was ready to book to announce the election. she agreed with all the demands. no, no, no, it wouldn't work. you'd have to go with a cool, you know, the, the ramifications that followed the crimea, the east of ukraine, and you're saying that we are going in stability. well, i don't think so. in my mind, we see difficult. we don't think in this terms with thing that we are trying to to create stability. but for the situation to be stable,

we need an agreed set rules of conduct across all areas that really stability, the cybersecurity, the original conflicts my thing that we can agree on these things and i have an impression that we can agree let us draw this to wrap it up, i'm sorry, i can't hear you speak to the mike this it to the mike in blue fog, the popular tunes. let's do something you know, this is something intelligible and reasonable. bloomberg please. and we'll wrap it up then. the final question to the lady who bloomberg news alia, are given in 2610 after you met trump. and you said of americans sanctions was quickly imposed to right. and what about this round of negotiations?

have you got any assurances that there will be no new sanctions in the near term coming from the united states. and you said about the glimpses of hope and do you have any ideas on how feasible it is to expect that the present biden would be able to deliver to follow through the promises? i mean, it's believed that the american political apparatus is actually showing more solidarity with prison bite and then show during president trump presidency. so right, you've agreed on consultations on cybersecurity, on ukraine. do you think there will be any working groups establish, do you think any red lines will be respected? can you describe something?

i think i've spoke about the red lines at length. you see the understanding and confidence in this is created. it stamps for, from negotiations. there's no reason to meet each other and threatened to exchange trade verbal attacks. there's not a point the restrictions, the sanctions is something i've, i've brought up already. we don't know what's brewing in the american political apparatus. i mean, we know the, you know, the broad strokes the, the currents, but we don't know the details. there are probably opponents and proponents of developing better relations with russia who will prevail. it's difficult to say hopefully a steps will be taken after this summit. well, hopefully, what my think so, but it would only mean a missed opportunity if it happens. and the final question to

a journalist from canada. thank you for the opportunity. i'm summer hunter school from canada. you said to a couple of my colleagues, you wanted and biased to give it a translation. know you hear me now, you know, but it was you can reach me i will try and repeat just more things are breaking up with that each needed to then solutions for change and 6 sigma had a nice little que tomorrow tricycle from canada. in moscow,

you said to a couple of my colleagues, you wanted and biased, fair question coverage. i have a fair question for you. it actually comes from my 9 year old daughter who asked me before i left to come here. what is the big deal with the summit? and it's quite a complicated answer for a 9 year old. so i'd like you to explain to us in your own words, mister president, why is this relationship so complicated? and also she'd like to know, and i'd like to know why our young people are not allowed to protest in russia if the solution is, well, it's a great thing that your 9 year old is actually interested in these things. and the quest in the answer is pretty simple. you've got to look around and just see the thing to yourself. it's a wonderful world. i mean, the grown ups,

this adult leaders of 2 major countries to major nuclear countries. i'm meeting to try to make this world a safer place. a secure place prospering place to live for many people from across the globe. they will discuss and stuff about the horrible weapons can kill us. so that has to be somehow prevented from they will discuss nature and how to make rigorous clean how to make seas clean. how to stop floods and drive with how to make sure everybody has plenty of food to eat for anyone in the globe. what else will they discuss? they will discuss health and medicine so that when you get money they will be healthy, taken studies and have

a bright future. and i wish very much so this meeting will be covered with this ideas in mind. thank you. well, you've been listening that to russian president vladimir pierson addressing the media as a photo press conference after wrapping up talks in geneva with us president joe biden. he did confirm that they discussed security trade relations, human rights cybersecurity, as well as the issue of crimea and the militarization of the arctic prison person was k. he says there was no animosity between the 2 men. and while they're all still areas of disagreement, he's confident they'll be able to find some common ground within their pragmatic relationship. he described biden as a constructive experienced partner and says they spoke the same language they had a frank and candid discussion. well, let's bring in our white house, correspondent kennedy, how could he's also been listening and she's at those talks in geneva. kimberly as expect that these were fairly wide ranging talks and that's

a lot to crime. and to just a few hours and present it appeared to be in fairly good spirits that it does appear. they covered a lot of common ground. and you know, it's important that we take into context. there's still one more press conference to be held from the u. s. president joe biden in order to get the complete picture of what exactly was agreed upon in that room. but the takeaways from the russian liter vladimir putin is that there are some news headlines. it appears can be reported including that they appear to have agreed to return diplomats to their respective countries that had been expelled in this tit for tat expulsion of diplomats. earlier this year, the timeline apparently still being worked out between the various governments, not over the state department, but also the respective agency inside of russia as well. it appears that the extension of the arms control treaty new starts,

may have some discussions and consultations to extend that even further. and we also know that with respect to the issue of ukraine, but it appears but well, there was a number of questions about this, and there was quite a bit of discussion. one would presume behind closed doors, it didn't appear that the russian leader was that forthcoming on some of the concerns that the west has with respect to the military build up a long ukraine border. in fact, he dodge that, i would say the same that he was just conducting military exercises and that this is something that is in accordance with international law and kimberly, he was also confronted by several members of the media about the volley and the opposition crackdown in russia, but it seems you really didn't budge an inch and rather instead shed some of his own views about politics from the united states. well, he seemed to say you're really one to be pointing the finger when the, you know,

the old saying goes, there are 3 other fingers that are pointing back at you, highlighting some of the uncomfortable truths about us. and it's, it's struggle with democracy as well. he referenced the black lives matter movement, that at times has, has been very disruptive in the united states as they continue to advance again and to, to protest against systemic racism is in the united states. pointing out the fact that there have been, as he said, the people are being trained to pro molotov cocktails. he likened to the sort of opposition protest in russia as being very similar to the demonstrations we've seen played out on us streets. he also pointed to the fact that there was a problem with policing and police perform needed in the united states. the people can be shot in the back with the he is sort of alleged impunity. and certainly this is something the united states is working on. so the argument being made is that it

can you really point the finger and i think the most telling part of that in reference, a defense to the argument that concerns about election of all neither russian opposition leader who is currently in jail, many concerned, he could die in prison is the fact that leading up to this summit, the name calling that occurred between joe biden and vladimir putin. jo whiting calling putin killer well was answered very squarely saying that and joe biden called him. and this is how he explained himself. he was satisfied with that explanation and he pointed to that history and the drone attacks that occurred death gattis down all civilians. the strikes that have occurred and he said, who is the killer now? well, that is an uncomfortable truth for the united states, that there have been accusations of extra judicial killing. so he really was very good at some of those uncomfortable issues, whether it be ukraine,

whether it be election, a volley of redirecting and pointing the arguments back, saying, is this the u. s. great, a history of respecting human rights essentially saying, i don't think so. so those are some difficult conversations that we're likely had, and this is certainly evidence of him. the dodging the questions if you will, will speaking of trying to turn the tables and point the finger. the other way we did expect that cyber attacks are going to be discussed. clearly they were and it does appear that there will be more consultations now going forward. yes, but as you point out, there was the turning of the table from that answer as well. it really, we thought who not accepting responsibility for the safe harbor that the united states is accusing russia, if not being behind those attacks that have affected the colonial pipeline that have certainly harmed american businesses. and what he essentially said was, well those, those are occurring in the united states. it's happening, canada,

it's happening in latin america. but the united states intelligence, asian say it's happening in russia. and if this is not states fostered, then certainly there is knowledge of it happening in the kremlin and that the russia has a responsibility to see that it stops. so he didn't appear to acknowledge any responsibility in any way, but to say that there would be consultation moving forward. kimberly house of our white house correspondent covering all of that for us from geneva. thank you so much. kimberly. while, as kimberly was mentioning, russian president vladimir pierson says those talks with us present, joe biden were constructive despite many divergent positions. so not sure, fisher prescribed you. there has been no hospitality. on the contrary, our meeting to placing a constructive spirit. indeed, we have varied assessment on a number of issues, but both sides express the intention to understand each other and seek common grounds. talks were quite constructive. and as we were just discussing,

both sides appeared to have agreed for their ambassador to return to their respective countries. mister watson, with regards to the return of our bachelors to their workplaces the return of the american ambassador to moscow, an armed baset or to washington, we agreed that they would return to their duties as for the timeline tomorrow or the day after that to technicality, we agreed that our foreign services will start consultations on a number of issues as well. that's not bringing out their fanatic at a james base. he's been watching all of this from london. james, successful tools that really feels like most things here went to plan. yes, i think certainly there are some things that have been agreed and certainly if you look at the very big picture, the strategic discussions, moving on from new start nuclear, the new care policy regarding these to make nuclear power as clearly we should all be a little relieved that they are talking about that and potentially going to talk further on last and certainly in terms of the tone of the tools that seem to have gone well

as they were described that by vladimir putin. but in that news conference you very much, i think, saw the 2 sides of the russian leda. you saw the diplomat. certainly talking about joe biden as constructive well balanced season politician saying he saw his qualities and his moral values saying that they were frank and productive talks and talks went to the point in his view that was one side of blood imputed. but of course, when he's challenged on things, and he was on human rights in russia and the opposition in russia, he punches back on a very different sort of blood, a person with a long rambling in response to that challenge about developing the notice. he never says navarro. and his name the mind you have mentioned, he says in response to the question and then comparing it with all sorts of ill is going back to, to iraq and afghanistan. right. the way forward to this years,

kimberly mentioned to generate the 6 protests talking about human rights in the united states and who is the killer now? and i think in some ways this is down to 2 different things that the russians want out of these sorts of gatherings. yes. most diplomats believe russia rather like the last 4 years light the chaos of the trumpet, ministration. it like the disunity among the western allies, but there's something else that russia likes and that's being talked to. and being at the top table, it likes being a permanent member of the un security council. it likes the gravity asked that president putin gets with a meeting for president biden. so the 2 sides of blood and put in and i think the 2 objectives of russian diplomacy, which are somewhat dissimilar will change. prison also mentioned this. didn't have hope for mutual trust, but i notice there haven't been any invitations to the wife household kremlin for the man. do we have a sense of where the discussions might go from here?

well i think the answer is the diplomats will tell you the important things. the discussions continue in some way because you need to have a process and you need to have regular meetings. and clearly the spiral was going downwards with diplomats on both sides being spelled and then more recently, both of the ambassadors effectively leaving the capitals and one returning to moscow one returning to washington. i think if you can get the diplomats back and the basses back, you can at least start a dialogue even if they don't agree on things. but a major change in russian us relations. i think that's unlikely. vladimir putin has been in power for 2 decades more than 2 decades, and he's not going to change. and he certainly, despite the fact he says he saw president vice biden's qualities and moral values. certainly the values of russia under vladimir putin on not what will be described

as u. s. values and dreams. you've covered so many talks like these. but today we're saying separate press conferences after these discussions, which is pretty unusual, right? should we be reading into the no, i don't think so. i think i'll be totally frank with you. i think us officials, if they talk to you privately, will say they didn't want president biden, who is a very, very experienced statesman, who certainly knows how to deal with these things in terms of a meeting face to face. but they didn't want him surprised by by coming president putin in a news conference. he is the oldest us precedent and sometimes he has the habit of miss speaking. i think they thought it was safer to have separate news conferences and not in some way be ambushed. they also, i think, have the memory of what happened. and it was in july of 2018. so nearly 3 years ago

of that press conference with donald trump and vladimir putin. and certainly that was a news conference that we old can remember. i remember covering it and how stinky, and really not believing the words in my ear as i listen to that news conference live. remember, on that occasion, president trump sided with president putin disputing all of the us intelligence agencies that russia had interfered in the u. s. and the u. s. presidential election. i think that memory, even though it's a completely different administration, they could see the peril was of a, of a joint news conference. and that's why they went down this route of single these conferences. and we're having a little pause now before president biden speaks to the press. i think that's probably because that digesting some of the comments from the russian leader, seeing how they going to respond to some of the questions about some of the things he said, i think the protocol department of the us have done rather well out of this getting the 2nd news conference, it's always best to come 2nd and being able to respond. and also of course,

president biden when, when he arrived here, he arrived 2nd. and i think they were worried that in the past, present person is turned up some of these. some it's late and left the person he was meeting standing around rather awkwardly said the protocol department, and they're the people in all these diplomatic gatherings who make sure everything is timed and choreographed to the 2nd. i think the u. s. might have at least one that diplomatic banking today. well, everything very well choreographed and data different to get it a james bay is there across that for us from london. thank you so much, james. well, it's not bring in cut, volker. he's the former us special representative for ukraine negotiations, as well as a former ambassador to nature. he joins now from brush flava cut. so no break through. but some success, especially given the, both sides were really playing down expectations. now i want to ask you as someone who has previously been involved in negotiations on ukraine, what did you make of patients response when it came to that question?

well, i think that a lot of my food in is essentially still continuing a narrative of denial saying that russia is really just a facilitator or a mediator in the conflict and not really the main protagonist and the conflict. and therefore, in a position say, yes, of course we support vision, ukraine, meaning that he sees it all as ukraine's responsibility for there was also talk of the militarization of the arctic nato. i imagine would be watching all of that very closely. yeah, i think so. and i think it was actually a little bit amusing here. he was welcoming people into russian territory saying, well, this is all russian. they're a territorial dispute over what is russian, what is not in the arctic, but saying that of course, this is an important issue in russia has territorial areas, but we are willing to cooperate. i was just talking, trying to correspondence about the dynamic and we know that biden has obviously been pretty outspoken about person in the past, calling him a killer very and torrijos line. and as we reminded today,

he even told fusion that he didn't have a soul back in 2011. what did you make of the dynamic between the 2 men today? well, clearly president abide and wanted to strike a tone of being willing to try to work together if putin is willing to try to work together and to de escalate tensions. and the by administration said repeatedly, try to create a more stable and predictable relationship. so the surface dynamics here are that bite and conveyed that image from the united states. and i think president boot in, it was trying to convey a similar error of your tone if you will. yes, yes, you know, we were willing to work together and we want to de escalate as well. but the substance of the saying is that he denies responsibility for what russia is doing, but more blame on others in the united states. and is going to continue some of the activities that he has been doing, such as the,

and the aggression against ukraine. was speaking of that, trying to shift the responsibility. i'm curious as to where you think the conversations will then go on cybersecurity because obviously that was going to be a huge chunk of the discussions today. where does that go from here? well, was very interesting. one of the answers he gave was to say that the preponderance of cybersecurity attacks are coming from the united states. so this is really a us problem. and i think what does indicates, again, is a denial of responsibility. you know much about russia, you know, that groups don't exist and carry out activities without the russian government, tolerating it. and some of the attacks we've had against the us, including critical infrastructure, came from there and couldn't, is clearly just deflecting that. i have one last question for you, kurt, which is we are set to see here from biden very, very shortly. indeed. we're seeing his podium there ready for him in geneva. i'm curious, he does have a very fine balance to strike here in terms of his tone. do you think he can manager? i do,

i think they've prepared for this. i think the white house team knows what they want to do here and independent of how the meeting when i think you know how they want the media to go. this will be by and conveying exactly that tone that we just discard the saying, we want to work together where we can of putin is willing. but we're going to push back and firmly on other things. and he will say that he res, difficult issues such as ukraine such as cyber access to relax interference. and he told me that we would refund of a continuum. of course, we've seen that has been doing this for years and there's no response thus far. but this is meant to be a new line being drawn by the current fault that the former us special representative for ukraine negotiations as well as a format and bass. the nature great to get your thoughts here or knowledge are there. thank you, cause well, let me show you this live show that we're getting from geneva. that is the podium at which we expect us president joe biden to speak at any moment.